Open Thread

The Trump Indictment has turned into a horrible proxy fight between Trump and DeSantis supporters – which shows the real reason Trump is to be indicted. As I noted before, we do have to stop being suckers. Trump, in my view, is a bit more sinning in this than anyone else. I can sympathize as he’s the guy under the indictment gun…but he should be leading the way in making this a fight against the Democrats, as such, rather than taking swipes at DeSantis. We’ll just have to see how this plays out – but even with all the drama, I do believe this one will backfire on the Democrats as badly as their pushes to defund the cops and medically transition minors are starting to backfire on them.

Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey is issuing an emergency regulation advising the medical profession that under Missouri law experimental medical procedures cannot be performed on children outside of very specific controls. This will almost entirely shut down medical transition of minors in Missouri. That’s the thing the Progressives don’t want anyone to notice: nobody has the first clue what these procedures will actually do to children long term – it only started a couple years ago base on “studies” which don’t rise to the level of junk science. We’re giving kids hormones and cutting off healthy parts not as a best practice medical procedure, but on a guess enforced by Progressive tyrants. The hope is that Missouri (and other States) will soon ban transitions for minors – as Bailey points out, plenty of European governments have already put a stop to the practice or severely restricted it. But until such time, Red State officials can and should use the laws on the books – and I’ll bet all 50 States have some species of law which hems in doing anything medical to a child outside of strict guidelines.

And this is how we do it – we should be using the power we have to the maximum extent possible. We can’t stop it in California and can only have limited effect on federal laws and regulations right now…but in the States we control, we can largely stop this savagery against defenseless children.

There is a horrific video out there which shows two people mercilessly beating a man in broad daylight – one armed with a bat, the other with a knife. Like all such videos it lacks full content: we don’t know what transpired before the video picks up with the lady holding the bat brutally swinging it at the victim’s head. But it doesn’t really matter: whatever the man may have done, he was down and surrendering and the thugs beating him could have just walked away (though I’ve heard the argument was over a parking spot). These people are savages – I do not consider them my social or political equals. Barbarians may never have the rights of civilized people. Barbarians are to be controlled by whatever means prove necessary. We will soon get to the point where all civilized people agree with me on this view; even quite liberal people. We simply can’t allow people to be mercilessly beaten without intervention.

But right now we are at the point where the civilized are simply too frightened to act. They still believe it will somehow get better on its own. Or that our increasingly incompetent and cowed police departments will get hold of the situation. It will not get better on its own: by the time you’ve got a bat-swinging maniac beating someone in broad daylight, you’re way past any easy cure. It will just get worse and worse and spread to any area where people are not armed and willing to shoot in self defense. The cure is to treat barbarians like barbarians – to understand that mercy requires that barbarians be compelled to good behavior even if by the whip and the branding iron. There’s a reason punishments a thousand years ago were brutal – they had to be in order to control a semi-barbaric population. That polite society you may remember from 50 years ago was the result of centuries of breaking people at the wheel, having them run the knout, hanging, drawing and quartering. Barbarians are not very good at calculating risks and rewards. They are driven entirely by appetite. They do whatever their impulses say and they keep doing it until stopped by superior force. Eventually, and I believe fairly soon, the people will have had enough.

How are the banks doing? Well, J P Morgan thought they had $1.3 million in nickel stored…turns out they have bags of rocks. Rocks. Like in your garden: rocks. These are the people in charge of our financial destiny. And its getting bad…kinda surprised at how low key everyone is being about Credit Suisse going under with $17 billion in their bonds just, poof!, declared to be worthless. This is a financial crisis which is already making 2008 look like nothing…but its all still being papered over with fiat money, unacknowledged defaults and banks moving money around to pretend there’s enough cash to cover everything (several major US banks have quietly started making big deposits in regional banks hoping that the word will get out just enough to prevent runs on those banks). Can they keep it up? Time will tell.

There’s this freaky dude out there who has pretended to be a woman for a year. A very creepy caricature of a woman…I won’t link to any of the videos but its like if you thought up the most insulting way to exaggerate some female mannerisms, that is what this guy has done. Naturally, the Vice President sent a letter congratulating this creep on being a woman for a year. Specifically, for “living authentically”. I know some women – trust me, I really do – none of them are happy with this sort of thing. The backlash on this is going to be astonishing…and may actually provide the leverage for a big GOP win as women make up such a crucially large segment of the Democrat vote.

43 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Amazona March 21, 2023 / 9:06 am

    Mark, at the end of your thread piece you touch on something no one is talking about. that is, the brutal mockery of women that is so popular on the Left.

    Old vaudevillian blackface routines are now vilified because they exaggerated and ridiculed racial stereotypes, and now the same people who clutch their pearls at the memory of them are defending the gender equivalent, wanting drag shows in schools and taking their children to see them when schools refuse.

    What ever happened to feminism? I have always been a true feminist—that is, I have always believed that nothing should be denied to women solely on the basis of their gender. But my personal history has been one of women working in the fields, driving tractors and handling livestock. That kind of feminism had nothing in common with the shrill man-hating pseudo-feminism of the urban Left, but that version did get a lot of press.

    And now it seems to not just be dead, but having the Left dance on its grave. Now the Left wants to destroy women’s athletics and the opportunities they once fought for, and now the Left is cheering the mockery of women. Now the Left wants to strip away the very essence of womanhood, that of the ability to have children, by giving it to men, or at least claiming that men can also give birth.

  2. Amazona March 21, 2023 / 9:14 am

    I let myself be distracted by the topic of denigration of women, but I came here to comment on the success of the Diversion/Distraction strategy of the Left, vis-a-vis the alleged Trump indictment. I’m sorry…TRUMP INDICTMENT !!!!! Got to give it the proper emphasis.

    So no one on the Left is paying any attention to the developing Biden Crime Family saga, with its mounting piles of evidence. And while this all develops in the background of the TRUMP INDICTMENT!!!! when that runs out of steam and the Biden corruption investigation is allowed to surface the howls will be that this is just revenge for attacking Trump.

    And in the meantime poor bamboozled schmucks like Casper are obediently waiting for their masters to toss them more yummy goodies they can then bring to sites like this, so pathetically proud of themselves. “Look at what I have! Something from NPR!”

  3. Amazona March 21, 2023 / 9:23 am

    Instead of just posting a link, I’m going to cite a lot of the article because I think it makes a very important point—in addition to comparing Trump to a squirrel on crack. Emphasis mine

    Donald Trump is less concerned about the possibility of his own indictment than you are.

    That’s a problem, not because you can’t choose to prioritize the issue of your own volition, but because Trump and his team aren’t just demanding you fall in line to fight the weaponization of government when they aren’t willing to do so. They are also demanding you make him president in the process. That significantly ups the stakes, does it not?

    But if Trump can’t be expected to be the adult in the room over his own arrest, then it’s fair to ask why you should be. Further, even if you choose to ignore Trump’s antics because you feel this is some bigger fight, why should you then elevate someone who can’t be counted on to focus and fight with you?

    The question emanating from this isn’t hard to ascertain. Is Trump showing you that he has learned his lesson and can take on the deep state effectively in a second term? Or is he showing you he’s learned absolutely nothing and will continue to be distracted by the yearnings of his own ego?

    Some keep asking for everyone in the GOP to come out strongly in support of Trump. According to them, we must drop everything and defend the former president. All the issues that actually affect our lives must be cast aside because his not-yet-decided indictment is the most important issue of our time.

    Okay, let’s say that’s true. In that case, is it really too much to ask for Trump himself to drop everything? He’s not doing that, though. Instead, Trump is still launching false smears on a guy who, despite having no reason to after the last several months of ridiculously false attacks, took his side and denounced the Soros-funded prosecutor in question. And what thanks did he get? He got some Truth Social posts suggesting he’s gay.

    Here’s the thing. I actually agree this situation is bigger than Trump and should be taken seriously. Unfortunately, it is Trump who is refusing to join the rest of us in that singular fight.

    There are limits to everything in life. If you push people far enough, you will lose their support regardless of whatever principle you seek to cite. For example, when it comes to some left-wing figures, I’ve long said I’m not going to defend them when the alligator starts taking its bites. Why? Because not only haven’t they earned my defense, but they have actively sought to alienate me in the process.

    Trump is approaching that place with his squirrel-on-crack behavior.

  4. Cluster March 21, 2023 / 10:32 am

    All those people who voted for Biden …. are now being laid off and I love it

    ESPN’s latest round of layoffs ‘will have no sacred cows leaving everyone, even top on-air talent and big-time executives, at risk with cuts coming in next four-to-six weeks’

  5. Amazona March 21, 2023 / 4:32 pm

    • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 10:02 am

      Maybe someone ought to give them a copy of this and this and a link to the interview.

      • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 11:16 am

        Or this.……….

  6. Amazona March 22, 2023 / 9:52 am

    The calm, measured response (or non-response) by Ron DeSantis to Trump’s juvenile name calling seems to really bother those who ache for another Jerry Springer style campaign. In the mode of “Let’s You And Him Fight” (from the old book “Games People Play”) Piers Morgan did everything he could to prod DeSantis into saying something inflammatory. When DeSantis didn’t take the bait, Morgan still characterized his comments as “slamming” Trump.

    When I asked DeSantis to cite specific differences between him and Trump, he said: “Well I think there’s a few things. The approach to COVID was different. I would have fired somebody like Fauci. I think he got way too big for his britches, and I think he did a lot of damage.”

    DeSantis also slammed Trump’s chaotic, self-obsessed, and divisive management style, saying:

    “I also think just in terms of my approach to leadership, I get personnel in the Government who have the agenda of the people and share our agenda. You bring your own agenda in you’re gone. We’re just not gonna have that. So, the way we run the Government I think is no daily drama, focus on the big picture and put points on the board and I think that’s something that’s very important.”

    There’s a slam in there? There’s not even a burn in there. Keep slugging away, Piers.

    DeSantis responded to efforts to goad him into a harsh response to Trump’s antics by saying “I don’t know how to spell the sanctimonious one. I don’t really know what it means, but I kinda like it, it’s long, it’s got a lot of vowels. We’ll go with that, that’s fine. I mean you can call me whatever you want, just as long as you also call me a winner because that’s what we’ve been able to do in Florida, is put a lot of points on the board and really take this State to the next level.”

    Until now, DeSantis has never engaged with any of Trump’s regular attempts to provoke him and he doesn’t intend to make a habit of it.

    “To me, it’s just background noise,” he said. “It’s not important for me to be fighting with people on social media. It’s not accomplishing anything for the people I represent. So, we really just focus on knocking out victories, day after day, and if I got involved in all the under tow I would not be able to be an effective Governor. So, I don’t think it’s something that makes sense for me.”

    “It’s long, it’s got a lot of vowels…” What a perfect response.

    And this made the wannabe troublemakers work very hard to try to turn this into a battle.

    Ryan Fournier (who has funny hair) snipes:
    DeSantis is now fully attacking Donald Trump as he is being politically persecuted by a corrupt DA.

    This reeks of snowflakism, if what DeSantis said qualifies as a “full attack”. Go ask Disney what a full attack looks like, if you can find a Disney executive who’s not curled into the fetal position sucking his thumb.

    Alex Bruesewitz breathlessly informs us that DeSantis is now toast among the people who would never support him anyway:
    Desantis is now shooting at Donald Trump as he’s being politically persecuted by the Deep State!

    DeSantis is a TROJAN HORSE and MAGA will never forget how he turned on Trump during this critical time in our nation’s history!

    If these guys and people like him represent MAGA then I bow out. I don’t like hysterical manipulative rhetoric from the Left and won’t tolerate it from the so-called Right.

    Trump and his allies and sycophants and fanbois are working very hard to point out the differences between him and DeSantis, and they should stop because it turns out these are very important differences.

    • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 10:00 am

      I haven’t paid any attention to Piers Morgan other than to be aware that he is a pompous ass, but I didn’t realize he is an ardent Trump sychopant–either that or totally unprincipled and eager to get some kind of drama stirred up.

      And he ran into calm, rational, Ron DeSantis, after running into calm, rational, Jordan Peterson. Kinda sucks to be Piers, I’m thinking.

    • Cluster March 22, 2023 / 10:02 am

      There’s no doubt the media is the driving force on this. They want rancor and unrest in the GOP so they report on it. Anything Trump says in amplified if not taken out of context simply to hurt him, and they will continue to goad DeSantis. Now the adults in the room, which there are few of, understand this and let it go in one ear out the other. It’s politics, which can be a blood sport. I don’t think we’re seeing the average fanbot getting all riled up but when one does, the media is there to cover it. And it’s amplified.

      • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 10:12 am

        As long as DeSantis can keep his cool and respond with things like “It’s long, it’s got a lot of vowels…” it will be a one-sided battle, with Trump and a diminishing cadre of Trump supporters and the cheerleading Agenda Media on one side and a true statesman on the other.

        At some point they are going to realize they are promoting DeSantis by giving him so many opportunities to illustrate his strengths vs Trump’s weaknesses. And no, I don’t think Trump’s jibes are taken out of context. There is no way to put his snottiness into any good context.

      • Cluster March 22, 2023 / 10:30 am

        I like DeSantis a lot, but until I hear him say that the security police state; FBI, DHS, etc. needs to be completely dismantled and rebuilt, I am a little suspect of him.

      • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 10:38 am

        He’s a governor, with a job to do running his state. When and if he runs for national office is when we should expect more sweeping policy opinions. In the meantime, I believe he is the only governor to fire DAs who refuse to prosecute crimes.

    • Retired Spook March 22, 2023 / 10:02 am

      It appears Trump is playing right into the anti-Trump psyops. I’m liking Trump less and less and DeSantis more and more. Our fondest hope was that Trump learned some valuable lessons from his first term. I don’t think he learned a damn thing.

      • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 10:07 am

        Worse than not learning—-and I say this as a Trump fan—-is that I truly think he is destabilizing. And when you start from his starting position, there’s not a lot of room to fall apart before it’s a major crisis.

        I guess it’s better to see him spinning out of control now than after getting into the middle of an election we absolutely have to win.

        I am finding myself actively disliking him, which was not the case even back when I had to hold my nose to vote for him.

      • Cluster March 22, 2023 / 10:19 am

        Or is it the media that’s influencing you? Look at this headline

        DeSantis attacks Trump and insists he can beat Biden in 2024: Florida governor tears into Trump’s character, mocks his use of nicknames and says there’s no ‘daily drama’ in his government

        (emphasis mine) Now, are we sure Trump has been as rancid and toxic as the media portrays?? When I hear Trump on the campaign trail, he is mostly measured and right on point. The media LIES

      • Retired Spook March 22, 2023 / 10:22 am

        That’s why I referred to it as psyops. The worst thing that could happen for the GOP is for the agenda media to manipulate Trump and DeSantis into destroying each other. And make no mistake — that’s what’s happening. And if it doesn’t happen, the media will say that it did.

      • Cluster March 22, 2023 / 10:28 am

        Exactly. And case in point

        The media, the Democrats, and their militant wings have made this more than it is, and they will continue to do so. I think Trump is doing what he always does, prescribing damaging nicknames to opponents, and I do think it is ramped up a little this time around, but I think that’s because he knows how high the stakes are. We are close to losing our country to ESG governance and a billionaire oligarchy … extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice

      • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 11:02 am

        I don’t think those nicknames damage anyone but Trump. They are infantile and downright stupid. I saw a divide a few years ago between Trump supporters who wished he would just STFU with his taunts and name calling and those who ate it up and loved it.

        Now he is doing it to someone who is not even an opponent, except in his own mind. He seems to think that he will gain something by preemptively destroying DeSantis before DeSantis actually becomes an opponent. OK, so he’s playing to the base that loved his attacks last time around, but he’s also displaying seriously bad judgment, both in his pettiness and his repeated opportunities for DeSantis to come across as the adult in the room while Trump is having a temper tantrum.

        (1) He’s making a fool of himself, shadow boxing with imaginary opponents. He is coming across like the Cowardly Lion, dodging shadows and seeing threats behind every tree. Not a good look for a world leader
        (2) His choice of language is unfortunate to say the least. In what world is it still damaging to imply that a man is gay? In what world is it damaging to make fun of how tall a person is? His “Lying Ted” rant at least pretended to address a character issue (though it reflected his own character issue since he was lying, himself, when he said it) but making homosexuality and stature into insults and attacks is horribly self-destructive. And he doesn’t even see it. And he is making his own lack of self awareness a big deal. He bragged about walking through the dressing rooms of very young girls in the Miss Teen America pageants, where they were undressed, and now he is trying to smear DeSantis for going to parties with students who were barely younger than he was when he was a student teacher, based on literally nothing but a photo of DeSantis with some kids. I don’t think this is damaging to anyone but Trump himself because it makes him look like a hypocrite and a bigot and a bully.
        (3) His self-indulgence in his paranoia means he is not paying attention to the serious stuff, which he should be addressing nonstop—particularly the weaponization of agencies for political purposes. We need a statesman, not someone vying with Biden for who’s most senile or someone controlled by the voices in his head instead of by reality.
        (4) I can’t believe the utter cluelessness and sheer stupidity of asking people to protest in the streets if he is arrested. The most brutal lesson ever handed to him was the horrible judgment of calling for protests in DC on January 6, and now he is intent on repeating that.

        In no way can I consider his antics as “extremism in the pursuit of liberty”. We need people who can step away from blind loyalty to the Trump that WAS and realize that we are now dealing with the Trump that IS, and he is exhibiting some very disturbing mental quirks that seem to be getting worse. Narcissism and paranoia don’t diminish with age, and he needs a reality check which would mean, among other things, people stopping the Elvis treatment of admiring every single thing he does no matter how self destructive.

        Unless he changes direction, dramatically and soon, he is going to turn the Republican primary into a shit show that will make the Dems look reasonable and a good alternative. And the impression he is projecting is that he doesn’t care about the party or the nation, just about himself.

      • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 11:05 am

        Fund managers for state and local entities in Florida will be prohibited from considering ESG factors in any investment decisions, and government entities will not be allowed to request ESG information from suppliers in the procurement process, according to new legislation proposed on Monday by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

        The new proposed laws form the latest move in the ongoing anti-ESG movement by Republican politicians in the U.S., which have seen several states target investors over their support for energy transition-focused investments and disclosure, warn law firms about the advice they provide to clients regarding ESG initiatives, and pressure proxy advisory firms over their support for climate and DEI-related issues.

        DeSantis has been among the most vocal anti-ESG advocates, barring fund managers for state pension funds last year from incorporating ESG factors in the investment process, and recently pulling $2 billion from BlackRock over its use of ESG factors.

  7. Cluster March 22, 2023 / 10:40 am

    This is not mysterious …. it’s those ridiculous wind mills

    Eight dolphins die after ‘mass stranding’ on New Jersey beach – as the string of mysterious sea-life deaths across the East Coast escalates

    • Retired Spook March 22, 2023 / 10:49 am

      One dolphin dies, and it’s a tragedy; eight dolphins die and it’s a statistic. You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

      • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 11:06 am

        On a roll, Spook…..on a roll

    • Retired Spook March 22, 2023 / 11:43 am

      The opposition is making it pretty easy. When your motto is “whatever it takes,” you end up doing some things that are not well thought out — OR they are well thought out but your motives are less than pure. Either way, it sucks to be a Democrat in 2023.

      • Cluster March 22, 2023 / 4:34 pm

        Excellent observation

  8. Retired Spook March 22, 2023 / 11:51 am

    Something that’s going largely unreported except on financial sites is the 20% rise in the price of gold just in the last 4 months. The canary in the coal mine?

  9. Retired Spook March 22, 2023 / 11:55 am

    Something else to keep an eye on: the price of crude oil is at $70.09 as I type this. Biden has said he would replace the oil he’s taken from the strategic petroleum reserve when the price got back down to $70. Any bets as to whether or not he’ll keep that promise? And what happens if he decides to do that and the Saudis or Venezuelans or Iran or Russia say, sorry, your dollars are no good?

    • Retired Spook March 22, 2023 / 12:25 pm

      Crude just hit $70 even.

  10. Retired Spook March 22, 2023 / 1:34 pm

    Color me shocked — the Trump grand jury in NY has been postponed until at least Thursday. My guess is Bragg has taken a gigantic bite of ash*t sandwich and isn’t sure how or where to spit it out. Reminder to self — buy more popcorn.

    • Cluster March 22, 2023 / 2:22 pm

      Bragg risks being disbarred if he continues. His star witness is a convicted liar.

      Meanwhile, rates just keep going up … and more and more young families are being denied home ownership, which is the source of most American family wealth throughout the decades. And that’s by design IMHO

    • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 3:57 pm

      No, don’t give Trump any credit for doing Ron a favor. DeSantis has faced extreme pressure and personal attacks, and so far has handled them all with skill and grace and that element so lacking since the days of Reagan—humor. He doesn’t need to be toughened up, and being called schoolyard names isn’t going to prepare anyone for anything except facing down a schoolyard bully.

  11. Cluster March 22, 2023 / 2:42 pm

    A couple thoughts on this report: 1. It appears as though Bragg and the grand jury have nothing, and secondly, is this all that Stormy is to Democrats and the media?? Just a porn star. That’s all. This is what they think of women in general truth be known

    The Manhattan grand jury hearing evidence in the criminal investigation of Donald Trump’s alleged role in a scheme to pay hush money to a porn star won’t meet Wednesday as regularly scheduled, according to two people familiar with the matter.

    The reason for the adjournment wasn’t immediately clear. The grand jury typically meets Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, one of the people familiar with the matter said, and it heard from witnesses earlier this week

    • Amazona March 22, 2023 / 3:56 pm

      Just a porn star. That’s all.

      But we know she is so much more. Such as being an extortionist……..

      And what does it take to go from just having (or faking) sex for money on film to actually being a STAR?

    • Mark Noonan March 22, 2023 / 10:07 pm

      Lots of rumors swirling – including one where Bragg was hiding evidence that Cohen paid Daniels out of his own funds with no evidence that Trump was aware of it or ordered it. If that is so, then not only is any Trump charge bogus, then Cohen would be in legal jeopardy if he testified to the Grand Jury otherwise.

      Remember: we don’t have any proof that Trump ever had sexual relations with Daniels. He says he didn’t, and she has never said flat out, “I had sex with Trump”…its all been innuendo…and do keep in mind that her first attorney in this was Avenetti who is now in the slammer for pretty much doing what he and Daniels tried to do with Trump. Even Van Jones is urging Bragg to back off – the worst thing for the Left would be a totally failed Trump indictment…something, say, that is tossed before trial (side note: Jones is one of the few thinking Progressives…if the man could ever get past the fixation on race he picked up in college, he’d be a valuable ally in reforming America…even if he remained politically Left).

  12. Cluster March 22, 2023 / 5:09 pm

    I wish that Trump would see that if he joins forces with DeSantis, they could be a force to reckon with. I really like the idea of putting up a 40 year old against Joe Biden, that contrast would be fun to watch.

    • Mark Noonan March 22, 2023 / 10:01 pm

      To be certain, a Trump/DeSantis ticket is the best option for 2024 but I think egos are too engaged at this point for that to happen. But we’ve got a huge uphill battle next year and our only chance is a united GOP ruthlessly attacking Biden and the Democrats on every issue. Trump and RDS can potentially unite the party and we already know that both of them are good at attacking. And for RDS, it is just 4 more years – if Trump were to win, then its just 4 years as VP and a coronation for the GOP nomination in 2028. If Trump loses in 2024, then its still a coronation in 2028 for a DeSantis who had been Trump’s loyal footsoldier in 2024.

      • fieldingclaymore March 23, 2023 / 9:36 am

        This is a fairy tale. Trump is going to throw the kitchen sink at Ron. Watch out for Roger Stone Ron. I think Ron will win in the end because he is smart and disciplined but get me some popcorn.

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