Open Thread

I saw a meme yesterday and I may have been a photoshopped joke. I wish I had copied it but it is long gone somewhere in the Twitter TL but the gist of it was a chryon claiming 15% of the American people believe Satanist pedophiles run America. We smile. Har har. Can’t be! But then, today, I came across something called UNAIDS 8 March Principles.

It ain’t good, folks. To quote:

…sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.

I think that you and I – because we’re not insane – would simply hold to a principle that the age of consent it set for a reason. Understanding that there can always be exceptions to every rule, in most Western nations we have decided that before your 18th birthday, you lack the capacity to reasonably consent. Whether that consent is to take out a loan or to engage in sexual activity. We know that a 15 year old can be wise beyond their years and that a 25 year old can be childish. But the line has to be drawn somewhere and we drew it at 18.

We are also reasonable people so we’re probably not going to prosecute a 19 year old boy who has consensual sex with a 17 year old girl. But our rule will still remain that any time a person over 18 has sexual relations with a person under 18, scrutiny is to be applied and the younger the minor and the older the adult the more harsh we’re going to be. And to be fair here, the UN is not calling for the decriminalization of pedophilia but do note the way they wrote it: the minor involved is to be asked how they felt about it and if the minor says it was ok, that must be taken into consideration as a matter of law. In other words, if a groomer manages to successfully groom, then its ok.

We’re really barrelling ahead into very dark times, my friends. Evil is stalking the world and taking over every institution. Because we believe in God we know we will win…but when we do win, we must remember that at times harshness works out to mercy. We must instruct those who are going down the UN’s path. They must forever learn that you cannot do that.

Never heard of Yuengling beer until just recently – but I guess they are America’s oldest brewery and they are ruthlessly taking advantage of Budweiser becoming the King of Gay Beers. I don’t drink much these days but I will have a beer or two by the pool. So, I’ll pick up Yuengling.

In case you have been living under a rock, it is now officially reported that anti-Christian bigotry is reaching unprecedented levels. This is the natural course of events. Gay is now the national religion and no national religion allows a rival. Do keep in mind, it isn’t all gay people. Might not even be most gay people. But certain people are insisting that everyone bend the knee to LGBTQ and if you don’t, you will pay a price.

43 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook April 15, 2023 / 2:13 pm

    Never heard of Yuengling beer until just recently

    Same here — it just wasn’t marketed in northeast Indiana until a few years ago. It’s become my go-to beer when we go out to eat. Many of the places we eat have it on tap, and most have it in a bottle. good, full flavor, not too dark and not too light, not as much bite as IPAs.

    • Amazona April 15, 2023 / 3:37 pm

      I just bought a six-pack to try it out. I just got back to Florida and an empty refrigerator and had to do SOMETHING and couldn’t remember all the AB brands so I bought Yuengling. Haven’t tried it yet so I’m glad for the testimonial.

      • Amazona April 15, 2023 / 9:59 pm

        Just had my first bottle and found it to be really good.

    • Retired Spook April 16, 2023 / 8:17 am

      BTW, I’m perfectly content to have Dylan Mulvaney be the face and voice of Bud Light. How was it that the Babylon Bee described it — backwash in a bottle?

  2. Amazona April 15, 2023 / 10:02 pm

    As the epicenter for the technology industry downturn, California’s CRE (Commercial Real Estate) market has been hit hard. San Francisco and Los Angeles had an average office vacancy rate of 21.6% in the first quarter, according to data from Cushman & Wakefield. Loans for San Francisco offices now face the highest risk of default of all U.S. metro areas, according to Trepp.

    A subsidiary of asset manager Brookfield Corp, for example, defaulted in February on $783 million in loans linked to two Los Angeles buildings, a filing showed. Citigroup and Wells Fargo were among the initial lenders.

    And Newsome is going to ask us to elect him to run the country.

    Meanwhile, Trump is getting richer again, now that he’s not president. Making money and THEN running for elected office! What a novel concept!

    • Mark Noonan April 16, 2023 / 1:47 pm

      Capital One used to have this huge building here in Vegas with hundreds of employees – now they are 100% work from home…why keep a building? And especially for places like San Francisco and Los Angeles, why keep a building and force your employees to wade through bums and sh** to get to work?

      Liberals are killing the cities.

      • Amazona April 16, 2023 / 3:42 pm

        I’ve wondered if the Left really did look that far into the future and realize that their immediate goal of tanking the economy while training Americans to bow the head and bend the knee to blatant tyranny would have the long-reaching goal of destroying a significant element of our real estate economy as well.

  3. Jeremiah April 16, 2023 / 12:00 am

    I apologize in advance for the language, but the core of this man’s message needs to be heard and understood.

    • Retired Spook April 16, 2023 / 8:56 am

      Agree on the message, but it would have been more effective with about 90% fewer F bombs. It would be interesting to come back in 100 years and see whether or not historians accurately recorded what a small, evil, mentally ill portion of society did to children in the early 21st century.

      • Amazona April 16, 2023 / 9:28 am

        I can’t help but think this country is going to be judged very harshly in the future. A nation so blessed by God, with its abundance, its remarkable new form of government (the first ever based on the concept of liberty) we fought to end slavery, advanced science and engineering and admitted the equality of women, among so many virtues. And we have fallen into a death spiral of self indulgence, depravity and moral corruption. While we in this country advocate for the mutilation of children after deceiving them into false beliefs, while we advocate for the poisoning and dismemberment of tiny helpless human beings just because they are inconvenient, we also blithely overlook the human rights atrocities of another country we support with our business and our dollars.

        “This country has enslaved millions, torturing them and working them literally to death in slave camps. This country has infected the world with a deadly virus that killed millions. This country has a policy of involuntary organ harvesting,” And what does our country say? “Yeah, well, but we really like those phones and shoes.”

      • Cluster April 16, 2023 / 9:36 am

        And we have fallen into a death spiral of self indulgence, depravity and moral corruption.

        Just like the Romans. Human nature never changes and the arc of humanity is consistent. Is all this inevitable?

  4. Cluster April 16, 2023 / 9:39 am

    …sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law.

    Remember now it was just 13 short years ago when we were lectured to accept gay marriage because it was just two people who loved each other. Now we are told to accept men with makeup sexualizing children and minors having consensual sex. That was a very quick and slippery slope.

    • Mark Noonan April 16, 2023 / 1:45 pm

      Yep – and I hate to be an “I told you so” (but I actually love it! Muhahahaha!), but I said back when SSM first came up that the program was actually to enforce the notion that gay is the same as straight…and once that was accomplished, every last argument in favor of any sort of sexual morality would be destroyed. It has worked exactly as predicted.

  5. Amazona April 16, 2023 / 10:10 am

    A friend’s teenaged son took me to the airport the other day and we had a really good talk about this whole trans fad. I described it as a fad, and used the term “social contagion” and he agreed. Other teenagers I know have told me that their school had no “trans” students and all of a sudden several in a class would decide they were “trans”. What I thought was interesting and possibly significant was that in their school this was, if not exclusively then nearly so, a girl-to-boy phenomenon, which supports my “fad” theory.

    Then today I saw this. Note the date. This is five years ago. (emphasis mine)

    Why Is Transgender Identity on the Rise Among Teens?

    A new study of social contagion raises important clinical and ethical questions.
    Psychology Today, 2018.

    “In general, cis-gendered people are considered evil and unsupportive, regardless of their actual views on the topic. To be heterosexual, comfortable with the gender you were assigned at birth, and non-minority places you in the ‘most evil’ of categories with this group of friends. Statement of opinions by the evil cis-gendered population are consider phobic and discriminatory and are generally discounted as unenlightened.”

    Parents further reported being derogatorily called “breeders” by their children, or being routinely harassed by children who played “pronoun-police.” The observation that they no longer recognized their child’s voice came up time and again in parental reports. In turn, the eerie similarity between the youth’s discourse and trans-positive online content was repeatedly emphasized. Youth were described as “sounding scripted,” “reading from a script,” “wooden,” “like a form letter,” “verbatim,” “word for word,” or “practically copy and paste.”

    Littman raises cautions about encouraging young people’s desire to transition in all instances. From the cases reviewed in her study, she concluded that what she terms “rapid-onset gender dysphoria” (ROGD) appears to be a novel condition that emerges from cohort and contagion effects and novel social pressures. From this perspective, ROGD likely exhibits an aetiology and epidemiology that is distinct from the “classical” cases of gender dysphoria documented in the DSM.

    Littman hypothesizes that ROGD can be cast as a maladaptive coping mechanism for other underlying mental health issues such as trauma or social maladjustment, but also for other exceptional traits like high IQ and giftedness. The peer support, prestige, and identity leveraged by the youth who proudly come out as trans certainly appears to be protective in their circles. As Littman’s study shows, this social signaling strategy also comes with strong disadvantages, particularly as it increases conflict between trans youth and the “cis” majority of the population, which, tellingly, includes a majority of the LGBT community.

    This article touches on so many of the aspects of this fad. One that is, I think, the core reason it is being advanced so strenuously by the Left is its divisive nature. As the entire strategy of the Left is to splinter our society into disparate and conflicting components, and another tactic has always been to undermine and even destroy the family unit (which is an unacceptable challenge to the ultimate authority of the State) the advancement of the trans theme advances two main Leftist objectives.

    • Mark Noonan April 16, 2023 / 1:43 pm

      The extreme rapidity which Trans moved from the fringe to the mainstream with all institutional powers backing it tells me that it was a set up: it was desired by the Ruling Class.

      Lots of reasons for this: it breaks up family bonds. It increases the amount of hatred and fear among the people. It allows the government to classify people as hate criminals for merely disagreeing. It is a step towards normalization of pedophilia. That last bit is why the Ruling Class got behind it so fast…as we know, Maxwell was sent to jail for selling kids to adults and not a single client has been arrested. This shows that the client list is made up of very powerful people and cuts across all ideological lines. That UN move to establish the child as the arbiter of whether abuse has taken place works right into this: making sure that when the number of degenerates is high places is revealed, it is all subsumed under “non-traditional gender” and “choice”.

      We all know that the vegan cat and the trans child had every decision made for them – but they are going to enforce the notion that just as a child can know they area different gender, so they can know when they are sexually mature enough to consent.

      • Amazona April 16, 2023 / 3:38 pm

        Can anyone make sense of this? It has to be from a Democrat. Please tell me a Republican is not Karening like this, scolding people for being upset at violence and telling them to just ignore it and chill out ’cause it was just high spirits on a nice night.

        But State Sen. Robert Peters (13th) fired back at Lopez: “The main thing about a certain politician tweeting obsessively about Black children on a Friday night is how lonely and sad that must be. Go see a movie. Have a nice dinner. Meet up with friends. But for the love of God stop being a weirdo every time it gets warm out here.”

        “Just doom scrolling about Black children and snitch tagging media late at night seems unbearably depressing. Like it was a nice spring week and they’re expecting snow on Monday. Chill,” Peters advised.

        Maybe—just spitballing here, but stay with me—-Peters could consider the fact that children of different races seem to engage in energetic high spirits on nice spring nights without shooting people or beating them till they have to be hospitalized. Without attacking strangers and vandalizing property.

        And maybe—No, not a “maybe” but a for damned sure—-the A-holery of smarmy apologists like Peters are as much a part of the problem as the little savages out preying on people for fun. When you think that calling for accountability for criminal acts is “unbearably depressing” marking someone as “sad and lonely” and a “weirdo”, when you piously lecture on “doom scrolling” and “snitch tagging” you clearly have a moral compass lacking a true north. And you are responsible for what happens and will no doubt have blood on your hands because of it.

    • Mark Noonan April 16, 2023 / 1:32 pm

      I think it was a test. BLM/Antifa was organized and protected by the Ruling Class…last night’s events in Chicago are, I think, a third party effort…making sure the police really won’t do anything and getting the kids to be entirely unafraid of authority. We’re going to find in Chicago and then in city after city that organized crime is completely in charge and enforces its will via periodic riots which the Ruling Class simply can’t put down.

    • Amazona April 16, 2023 / 3:23 pm

      We know how to handle mobs. We know how to control large violent groups. We have the technology, we have the tools—but what we don’t have is the will. It can be done without violence. It can be done by negative reinforcement, such as spraying the mobs with stink juice that won’t wash off, effectively making the people persona non grata till it wears off and ruining their clothes and gear. It can be done by physically restraining them using nets or the “silly string” quick-hardening sprays already tested and perfected. It can be done. It is done in Israel, but there they have the will.

      The Leftist cities obviously feel they benefit from the chaos they have enabled. I think perhaps the Left thinks that their reigns of terror will spread, like the virus, to contaminate and eventually bring down the whole country. And I also think that what is going to happen is that the violence and pro-crime attitude will end up isolating these cities, making them into discrete little bubbles of hell which serve as warnings to the rest of the country about the dangers of Leftist governance.

      Or they COULD serve as such warnings, if the Right could only figure out how to articulate this in a consistent and coherent way.

  6. Amazona April 16, 2023 / 12:56 pm

    A Townhall article about what they refer to as the “Alphabet Mafia” includes this comment, which is what I have been thinking for years now: Never hire anyone who’d be a lawsuit to fire, and pronouns or flags of any sort other than the American flag are a pretty good indication of probable trouble.

    I have been quietly and privately speculating that the protests and so on by these activists may have had the effect of making them eminently unhire-able.

    I would not hesitate to hire someone who is merely gay, but for someone who registers on my radar as someone who would make trouble for me if I were to fire him or her, even for the most obvious reasons such as not coming to work, there would be the simple calculation to move on to someone who doesn’t come with a built-in trouble factor. I doubt that I am the only one who has come to that conclusion. It can’t be spoken or admitted, but it is there.

    If I had a dry cleaning store and hired a woman who then came to work wearing extremely suggestive clothing and made blatantly sexual comments to customers, I could fire her. But if it was a gay man doing this, I couldn’t. That’s just the kind of calculation people have to make. It has nothing to do with homosexuality per se, but just with the likelihood of legal action from an activist victimhood mindset.

  7. Amazona April 16, 2023 / 7:04 pm

    Did you see the thread on Trump’s big coat?

    We do have fun, don’t we?

    • Cluster April 17, 2023 / 9:35 am

      Conservatives are still normal people. Democrats? Not so much

  8. Cluster April 17, 2023 / 9:34 am

    Chicago is in a death spiral. Mark is right when he says that much of the younger generation have no fear of law enforcement now and is of course a huge problem. But the larger problem are Democrat politicians who weaponize and excuse their behavior.

    ‘Don’t demonize them’: Chicago’s new mayor-elect says it’s ‘not constructive’ to vilify marauding gang of teens that torched cars in rampage organized on social media

    • Amazona April 17, 2023 / 2:14 pm

      He ‘splained it all to us:

      It is not constructive to demonize youth who have otherwise been starved of opportunities in their own communities,’ said Johnson, a progressive Democrat.:

      Hmmm. What could have “starved” them of “opportunities”? Maybe the Left-run “teachers'” unions, more focused on building up massive blocs of administrators on payrolls and funneling their mandatory union dues to Democrat candidates instead of making sure the kids can read, write and spell? Maybe the black community approval of “baby daddies” racking up impressive counts of how many children they have sired—and then abandoned, to grow up fatherless and with no direction or discipline? Or perhaps the attitude that competence, education and job skills equate to “acting white” and therefore are not acceptable? Is there a possibility that these factors are really what have “starved” the occupants of Chicago’s Democrat plantation of “opportunities”?

      No, the strategy is clear, and always has been. Keep the opportunity for escape from the plantation as limited as possible, so the Dems can control their human livestock to be harvested for votes. This means balancing the anger and resentment this generates to keep it from exploding, and keeping it focused on the “right” targets—that is, Republicans, whites and anyone who has more than they do. And if that means turning the feral little savages that result from this strategy loose on the public every now and then for some fun, just letting off a little lighthearted steam on a nice spring night, well why not?

      If I were a white person living in Chicago and watching what is happening and hearing its “leaders” openly fomenting even more hatred of white people, I’d be remembering what led up to Kristallnacht and getting pretty nervous.

      • Cluster April 17, 2023 / 2:56 pm

        Spot on. Let’s add the fact that Americas Oligarchy has spent the last 20 years selling out those “good opportunities” to China and Mexico. Think: good paying, union based, manufacturing jobs.

  9. Cluster April 17, 2023 / 9:36 am

    Still waiting for the manifesto from that dude who murdered six Christians.

    • Amazona April 17, 2023 / 2:18 pm

      I suppose that when UN “peacekeepers” offer food, such as a single egg, to starving young girls in exchange for sex, their acceptance of the trade means they “consented” to the act.

      The UN seemed like a good idea, but has turned out to be the nexus of so much corruption and evil it must be disbanded. At the very least, it should be kicked out of New York as the US pulls out, and then left to die its inevitable death as these “diplomats” aren’t going to want to go to Uganda or San Salvador to hang out and act like protected big shots.

  10. Cluster April 17, 2023 / 3:06 pm

    Any chance Democrats could keep their dumbass little gay boy away from us???

    • Retired Spook April 17, 2023 / 4:02 pm

      Wouldn’t it be great if he was dead?

      We’d get to find out just how incompetent Kamala really is. Other than that it would be great.

    • Amazona April 17, 2023 / 6:22 pm

      Wouldn’t it be great if he was dead?

      No. A living breathing Joe Biden is an ongoing gift to the Right. A dead Joe Biden is a martyr, no matter how he died, and his death would give the Left an incumbent who is female and black. It’s not as if Dems care about competence or ability anyway—it’s just about checking some boxes.

  11. Amazona April 17, 2023 / 7:51 pm

    One of the acronyms I find irritating is “POC”–Person Of Color. But I ran across one I can use—“POP” or Person Of Pallor.

    Now I don’t feel left out….

    • Cluster April 18, 2023 / 10:18 am

      LOL. The POC acronym is such an insult to intelligence. But then again, isn;t everything Democrat an offense?? Yes it is

      And Democrats get really mad when someone leaves their plantation

      Jordan Klepper kicked off his time as temp host of Comedy Central’s The Daily Show by interview Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Monday where the duo daydreamed about impeaching Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

      • Retired Spook April 18, 2023 / 10:32 am


        Now you’re just messin’ with us.

      • Cluster April 18, 2023 / 12:22 pm


  12. Cluster April 18, 2023 / 2:44 pm

    This is a truly disturbing story

    St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner could be held in contempt of court after a prosecutor in her office no-showed a murder trial Monday morning.

    Judge Scott Millikan sent a notice to Gardner’s office asking her to appear before him on the morning of April 24 “to show cause why you should not be adjudged in contempt of this court.”
    If Gardner fails to appear or show cause, then Judge Millikan could levy a fine against the city’s chief prosecutor, put her in jail, or both.

  13. jdge1 April 18, 2023 / 9:03 pm

    • Pork producers have been using customizable mRNA-based “vaccines” on their herds since 2018, without telling the public,

    • All customized mRNA “vaccines” are untested. Only the mRNA platform itself has been approved,

    • According to the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association, “there are no current mRNA vaccines licensed for use in beef cattle in the United States.” However, a lobbyist for the association claims to have “double-vaccinated” his own herd with an mRNA “vaccine” against bovine respiratory disease,

    • Iowa State University began trialing an mRNA “vaccine” against bovine respiratory syncytial virus October 1, 2021,

    • Missouri House Bill 1169 would require labeling of products that can alter your genes. Big Ag lobbyists strongly oppose it,

    Pork producers have been using customizable mRNA-based “vaccines” on their herds since 2018 — without telling the public. This issue really only rose to the surface after attorney Tom Renz started promoting new legislation in Missouri (House Bill 1169, which he helped write) that would require labeling of mRNA products. In an April 1, 2023, tweet (and no, this was not an April Fool’s joke), Renz stated:

    “BREAKING NEWS: the lobbyists for the cattleman and pork associations in several states have CONFIRMED they WILL be using mRNA vaccines in pigs and cows THIS MONTH. WE MUST SUPPORT MISSOURI HB1169. It is LITERALLY the ONLY chance we have to prevent this … NO ONE knows the impacts of doing this but we are all potentially facing the risk of being a #DiedSuddenly if we don’t stop this.”

    This is just a glimpse of what big pharma and big AG have planned for us. Bad enough that they’re proceeding with this most dangerous plan, but that they’re attempting to do with without any scrutiny or notification to the consumer is criminal. Barring some miracle, if they can infiltrate our food source with this experimental mRNA that I doubt anyone knows what the full effects will be, our destruction as a human race will be in sharp decline. Those who survive will have to deal with devastating consequences.

    • jdge1 April 18, 2023 / 10:10 pm

      That should read… the human race will be in sharp decline due to this destruction. The way it was written it sounds like the destruction will be in decline, not the human race.

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