From The Daily Caller:
Ralph Nader, the consumer advocate and perennial third-party presidential candidate, announced last month that he would work to find a Democrat to challenge President Barack Obama in 2012.
Nader now says that a primary challenge is a near certainty.
“What [Obama] did this week is just going to energize that effort,” Nader promised in an interview with The Daily Caller. “I would guess that the chances of there being a challenge to Obama in the primary are almost 100 percent.”
The only question, he said, is the stature of that opponent and whether it will be either “an ex-senator or an ex-governor” or “an intellectual leader or an environmental leader.”…
While one must never forget the way Nader helped fasten upon the American people the greedy and corrupt tribe of trial lawyers, you do have to hand it to him on his convictions: he’s a pinko right down to the ground, and Obama hasn’t been commie enough for him. Which, once again, does make you wonder just how ultra-leftist Obama would have to be to please people like Nader. At all events, it appears that anger over Obama’s failures on the left side are starting to bite.
While there was some lip service on the left about Afghanistan being a “good” war, the reality is that the left dislikes any use of American power…so, the fact that we’re still in Iraq and Afghanistan and have also launched a war in Libya has to be causing problems. In addition to this, Obama has kept in place almost all of the Bush anti-terrorism policies…this is simple common sense on the part of Obama, but our leftists talked themselves in to really believing that Gitmo was a horror and that the Patriot Act was undermining American liberty. To keep the American Gulag open has to be a shock to the left…and a source of anger the longer it stays open (here’s a clue for you liberals…it will remain open at least until after election day…Obama simply will not risk releasing one of the terrorists there for fear that someone will be killed by the former inmate…in your liberal mind those men might be innocents cruelly arrested and tortured by Chimpy McSmirk BusHitler, but the realty is that they are killers who want to kill again). Add in things like the failure to terminate the Bush tax cuts, failure to raise taxes on “the rich” some more, failure to get a single-payer health plan and it all adds up to a grand disappointment to the left.
And so a possible primary challenger…if Nader can dredge one up. Given Nader’s statement, he’s likely to find someone…but unless he finds someone with real stature, it will just be a joke candidacy, easily crushed by the Democrat machine. Nader will have to find someone who is both willing to ship out with the craziest denizens of the liberal nuthouse while also being someone with a credible political record. This will not be easy to do. But always fun to watch…stay tuned.
Maybe another ex governor of taxachussettes will run again. Would love to see the “fighting dukaki” make a comeback.
consumer protection as communist China?”
NO
I WANT LESS
I do not need to be “PROTECTED” by the government but from foreign invasion which includes the borders which they massively SUCK at.
“While one must never forget the way Nader helped fasten upon the American people the greedy and corrupt tribe of trial lawyers.”- Mark
Mark- do you deny that General Motors hired a detective to investigate Nader, who tapped his phones and even hired prostitutes in an attempt to trap him in a compromising situation? It seems anyone expecting some responsibility in corporate behavior is a pinko in your book.
He is responsible for the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act in 1966 which passed unanimously. This act forced the introduction of seat belts which save more than 10,000 lives per year. Do you want to have the same level of consumer protection as communist China?
Apparently so, Mark is in some ways an anarchist. I hear Modadishu is nice this time of year….
Tell us all about it, Sassy. And while you’re at it, tell us where it is—-I can’t seem to find “Modadishu” on any map.
Is it closer to Norway or Saint Thomas University?
Amy
If you typed modadishu into a search engine like Google it produces mogadishu. That’s because 1 letter difference d for g which are on the same line on the keyboard isn’t hard for a brainless algorithm to figure out.
Also a Risk Board is not an actual map of the world so you would have trouble finding Mogadishu Somalia.
“He is responsible for the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act in 1966 which passed unanimously. This act forced the introduction of seat belts which save more than 10,000 lives per year. Do you want to have the same level of consumer protection as communist China?”
Bardolf, even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day. If you would just take a second and reread the post, I do belive you will find that this is not a critisizim of mr nader. Mark is correct that nader is a pinko to the core but that the man has stayed true to his principles.
seat belts????
Im big enough to take care of my self, I do not need 16K a year cops searching my car, hastling me or my family giving out tickets for the nanny state enforcement of seat belts, motorcycle helmets, how many beers I have or any other commie leftist utopian BS.
GMB
I beg to differ. I don’t see any evidence of Nader being a communist in any way and 10,000 lives per year plus the clean air act, clean water act etc. makes him an important broken clock.
I read the post pretty thoroughly. I don’t care about the ‘Left”. The wars have been fruitless, the banks are still unaccountable, the PA and pat downs are just expensive means to instill a false sense of security in travelers and the voters.
What Mark left out is that Nader was a fierce opponent of NAFTA along with Perot and their predictions of a sucking of jobs out of the country were spot on.
Two weeks ago the Obama administration started allowing long-haul transport from Mexico into the US interior. This will decrease highway safety, put US drivers out of business and lower the average wage of US truckers. Maybe you don’t mind those kind of things, I don’t see why Nader finding a problem with them makes him a pinko to the core.
bardolf,
The problem with the “except for Nader we’d all die” argument is it ignores the fact that prior to Nader automobiles were getting steadily safer…now they are still getting safer, and trial lawyers are getting a job-destroying rake off. This is improvement? If you see something good in the “Injured? Call Dewey, Cheatem and Howe” advertisements, then I feel sorry for you…all the trial lawyers amount to is a tax upon the American economy…and a tax which just allows people like John Edwards to rise to power and wealth, while poor fools trying to actually produce wealth are hindered at every turn.
But that isn’t the point – Nader is a far left fanatic and is displeased with Obama, and wants a primary challenger for him…that is what is interesting here.
hitlery??
I have always thought they brokered a back room deal,
the problem is we would exchange an empty suit commie alinskyite, for an empty pantsuit, commie alinskyite.
we would lose a racist muslem usurper accused homosexual though…OH wait hillary…..janet reno…..
never mind.
You didn’t answer the question. If automobile companies were steadily growing safer why did they hire a private eye to wiretap Nader and try to entrap him with prostitutes?
In your world the American people just got bamboozled one day into believing Nader was right about the behavior of the auto companies. The UNANIMOUS passage of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act in 1966 means Nader was able to trick literally everyone.
Sadly, you aren’t willing to give Nader credit because it doesn’t fit within the GOP good Dem bad mentality. The truth is consumers in the US are protected better than almost anywhere else in the world and it ain’t because US industry is so much nicer than those overseas.
The truth is Nader sued GM for invasion of privacy and settled the case for $284,000. He used that money to protect consumers and workers.
Surely you are not trying to claim that the alleged antics of GM are somehow proof that cars were not getting safer?
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And how about linking Nader’s political philosophy, as shown in his own antics, to the description of him as a “pinko”? Or is any approach to defining a political philosophy too much of a threat to approach?
We could also talk about his hypocrisy, as shown, for example, in his living in a rather lavish home but keeping a spartan monkish cell to exhibit to fawning reporters to prove his lack of interest in material things.
This act forced the introduction of seat belts which save more than 10,000 lives per year. – barstool
Tell me again why the government should be able to tell me to wear a seat belt in my own car.
Because you are using public roads. Because a drivers license isn’t a right. Because if we are in an accident I shouldn’t have to pay for your funeral based on your idiocy.
If you want to sit in your driveway with the engine revving and no seat belt go ahead.
barstool and thomas –
You’re paying for my funeral? That’s news to me. Honestly stool and thomas, you don’t see the seat belt law as just a bit of over reach by the government? Seriously? A lot of people die with and without seat belts, and most people pay for their own funerals, so your argumaent is pretty weak.
This is why I really don’t want to compromise with folks like you. You are advocates for a large central bureaucracy that intrudes on personal lives and regulates an economy to the point of suffocation. It goes against my very DNA, so just know that folks like me will fight you every step of the way to see that you don’t bring about your big government utopia.
Because if we are in an accident I shouldn’t have to pay for your funeral – barstool
Stool, if this is your argument, couldn’t you prevent me from doing a lot of other risky activity? Couldn’t you stop me from smoking? From eating fast food? From swimming in rapid rivers?
Please explain to what extent you would like the government to take this.
Clueless
Make yourself a nice dirt track on your property and drive around without a seat belt. On public property the public gets to decide. This isn’t even a smoking ban for private bars.
People share the road. If a person makes a mistake in driving they shouldn’t spend the rest of their lives with the thought they killed someone just because said moron wants his freedom. Big difference between that common scenario and everything else.
What is especially troubling is blowhards who talk about personal freedom all day long and then if they had an accident riding without a helmet at 66 years of age would expect the government to spend big bucks for hospital bills.
10,000 lives per year with seat belts are saved. The DHS gets billions of your tax dollars, harasses you at the airport and can’t even claim to save 1 life.
That is just bullshit of the highest order stool. Seat belts do not prevent death. There are many cases where people were killed wearing seat belts. Secondly, I am not hurting anyone else by not wearing a seat belt, only myself, and for some weird reason, you feel compelled to tell me what I can or can not do in my own car. What’s next?
You are a statist stool. Strange how you don’t want to protect people who fly commercial arilines, but want to tell me what to do in my own car. Your a messed up liberal. And if you don’t like the DHS, take thomas’s advice a vote people into office who share your thinking.
Stool,
What in the makes you assume that people who ride without helmets expect the government pay for their hospital bills? I know liberals want government to pay for everything, but that’s not the majority of Americans. Most of us are just fine taking care of our own health needs.
Stay the f**k away from me, ok? I don’t want your lecturing, or your rules. Capiche?
Clueless
Seat belts save lives, if you don’t believe that you’re an idiot. Again, in your driveway you can do whatever you please, on the public roads there are rules. Sorry if I don’t believe the looters who refuse to wear seat belts/helmets will pick up their own hospital tab. Experience says they don’t. Same reason I don’t believe the looters who want to move their social security onto the stock market wouldn’t be looking for a handout when they go bust at the wall street casino.
Unlike seat belts there is 0 nada zippo evidence that the DHS protects people. I don’t care so much about the pat downs, it’s the fiscal conservative in me that wants to balance the budget. You don’t seem to mind your tax dollars going to waste needlessly. Since both parties support the DHS all I can do is vote Ron Paul in the primary.
Seat belts save lives – barstool
So why do you allow people to smoke? You have to pay for their healthcare, and not smoking saves lives.
I am interested in hearing why you allow people to smoke, but force them to wear their seat belt.
Your turn.
Cluster
You can drive your car in your parking lot without a seat belt. On the public roads your driving affects the public. You can smoke in your house. In public places like airports you are affecting other people and rules are allowed to limit your impact on others. Not wearing seal belts places easily measurable costs on the public.
As for smoking it also adds cost to society which is why there are special taxes on cigarettes. I don’t think an honest accounting has been done since premature death from smoking also cuts down on SS costs for the government.
If people who didn’t wear seat belts wouldn’t be a burden on taxpayers after accidents and didn’t put themselves in the position where others might take their life by a driving mistake I would be for letting people kill themselves on the highway.
You want to kill yourself with drugs, legalize them. You want to kill yourself smoking or with alcohol knock yourself out. You want to ride an ATV without a helmet, flying through the air and killing yourself go ahead. You want to overeat and kill yourself with diabetes enjoy.
I personally am completely unafraid of an invasion of the US in the next 20 years. Maybe you can answer why I have to pay for other people’s fears.
Cluster,
You’ve officially gone off the deep end. point by point for your dumb *ss
That is just bullshit of the highest order stool. Seat belts do not prevent death.
nobody said they prevent death. They make death LESS LIKELY in case of an accident. Are you really that stupid?
There are many cases where people were killed wearing seat belts.
ok, so using your logic. Many people are killed while driving sober…so let’s legalize drunk driving. Many people are killed while not talking on the phone and driving. So let’s let everyone talk and txt and drive. Many people are killed following the law, so let’s legalize everything.
You’re a proven idiot who would be better suited living in Mogadishu because you aren’t a conservative, you’re simply an anarchist and an idiot.
Secondly, I am not hurting anyone else by not wearing a seat belt, only myself, and for some weird reason, you feel compelled to tell me what I can or can not do in my own car. What’s next?
again, you’re not hurting anyone else by talking on the phone and driving, so let’s make that legal. Besides, like Bardolf said, if you drive on PUBLIC TAX FUNDED ROADS, you will follow the law and do what is required. Driving is not a right, and therefore any rules and regulations placed as a precondition to being able to drive will be followed. You can’t possibly be that stupid can you? This is simply hilarious.
You are a statist stool.
and you’re an anarchist.
Strange how you don’t want to protect people who fly commercial arilines, but want to tell me what to do in my own car.
you’re damn wrong, and now I’m just starting to feel sorry for you. the DOH doesn’t have any data to back up the fact that they actually protect us more by patting you down and touching your junk. While seat belts have been proven to save lives. How do we know this…people who wore seat belts who would have died in an accident without them, DID NOT DIE. there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of cases where police and paramedics have stated that fact.
Your a messed up liberal.
i’d rather be a liberal than an anarchist or constitutional conservative like you claim to be. there is NO compromise with people like you or your ilk. You need to be eliminated and completely relegated to a minority status in congress. Like I have stated before, thank God you are from a different OLDER generation.
And if you don’t like the DHS, take thomas’s advice a vote people into office who share your thinking.
I have a feeling he already does vote. He votes for people he agrees with, not for people who have an (R) after their name like you probably do.
idiot.
So you’re against seat belt laws. Ok fine, influence your local government and state government in order to change the law.
You’re in the minority on this issue. If people follow your line of thinking…why should you get insurance for your car once its paid off and fully yours? why should you have to turn on your headlights at night while driving in YOUR own car.
why should you have a babyseat in YOUR car if you have infants.
Look, I will buy you a one way ticket to Mogadishu. The less of you we have, the better.
So opposing government intrusion is advocating the absence of government? Why are you so delusionally obtuse thomas?
And car insurance is to protect the “other guy”, not me. Didn’t think that one through again did you sport?
I still think Hillary will run. And I think there would be a good chance she could get the donkrat nomination. The Clintons have a long memory. They are vindictive. Revenge would be oh so sweet.
Sorry I went on topic for a moment there. I solomenly swear that I will never do it again. Your Honor.
A run by Hillary just got more likely with the S&P downgrade. Wonder which GOP candidate has most consistently voted against raising the debt ceiling blaming big spenders in both parties?
didnt ole slic say 0chimpy would be getting his coffee?
was that before or after ole je$$e cut the “N****R’s ba**s off” ?
would she be dubbed a raaaacist daily by the MSM
POP CORN please, and turn the volume up to 100, that would be delicious.
The Clintons have a long memory. They are vindictive. Revenge would be oh so sweet.
zero could catch the KKKlinton flu???
The accounting of these mysterious deaths began in 1994 when in a letter to congressional leaders, former Rep. William Dannemeyer listed 24 people with some connection to Clinton who had died “under other than natural circumstances” and called for hearings on the matter. Dannemeyer’s list of “suspicious deaths” was largely taken from one compiled by Linda Thompson, an Indianapolis lawyer, containing the names of 34 people she believed died suspiciously and who had ties to the Clinton family.
Some of the “Casualties” were openly murdered, but many were killed in such a way so that their deaths could be ruled accidents or suicides. This was especially true if they died in Arkansas where the medical examiners routinely ruled apparent murders as either accidents or suicides when it suited political purposes. In fact, this was so common that it was often referred to as “Arkancide” or “Arkansas Suicide”.
“An apparent pattern of violence and intimidation has befallen a number of men and women with ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton, their partners in business, law and politics, and people investigating their affairs…” (The Arizona Republic, June 7, 1994)
OOH GOODY a NEW national holiday (just kidding) 🙂
link to above
http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.com/clintbodycnt.html
here is what obieOne and his commie ideals have given america
racism is a two edged sword…except for black radicals…
js
except for black radicals…
like the whole present regime.
I still think the fighting dukaki should run again.

Howx aboot Alvin Greene? Remember him? He would make an awesome potus!!!!
I still liked the slogan, RUN je$$e RUN
Sasan/thomas may not be smart enough to explain the political system he supports and enables, but he sure has the basic idea down pat: “You need to be eliminated.”
I guess you don’t have to know a lick about actual political philosophy if all you really need to know is summed up in the words “You need to be eliminated” as stated, and acted upon, by your heroes: Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Kim Jong Il, Pol Pot, Fidel. Mao.
Don’t agree with the rabidly radical Left? YOU NEED TO BE ELIMINATED