Neil Armstrong, RIP

From ABC News:

 Neil Armstrong, the astronaut who became first to walk on the moon as commander of Apollo 11, has died. He was 82 years old.

He was born in the small town of Wapakoneta, Ohio, on Aug. 5, 1930.

On July 20, 1969, half a billion people — a sixth of the world’s population at the time — watched a ghostly black-and-white television image as Armstrong backed down the ladder of the lunar landing ship Eagle, planted his left foot on the moon’s surface, and said, “That’s one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind.”…

Symbolic of a nation which used to be able to do everything – Armstrong’s death reminds us of what we used to be, and should inspire us to be that nation, again.

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60 thoughts on “Neil Armstrong, RIP

  1. Cluster August 25, 2012 / 4:09 pm

    Armstrong’s death reminds us of what we used to be, and should inspire us to be that nation, again.

    That’s a great line Mark, and so true. Liberals have always been very pessimistic of our great country and people, and I have grown tired of it. Hell just the other day, Casper was trying to tell us that extracting oil from the ground via fracking was beyond our ability. And of course we all know that liberals think black people are incapable of living a successful life and need government to get by, and that includes now women. According to Sandra Fluke, women are incapable of living a fulfilled life without someone else paying for their contraception, and that brings to mind another thought. Liberals want government to stay out of the bedroom, right? Then why do they want government to pay for what happens in the bedroom? ie; contraception and abortion. Maybe some liberal could tell me that.

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 25, 2012 / 4:26 pm

      The liberal’s idea of freedom is the freedom to get laid and live a great life without consequences or having to earn it. They don’t understand what actual liberty is.

      • Amazona August 25, 2012 / 5:08 pm

        Perhaps the problem is that the undereducated Left have confused “liberty” with “libertine”.

    • Jeremiah August 25, 2012 / 11:58 pm

      Liberals want government to stay out of the bedroom, right?

      No way, do they.

      Liberals are currently funding the creation of insect spy drones … it looks like a mosquito … has a vial with a needle attached so as to draw blood for DNA … has sound recording … has video recording … and can implant nanotechnology tracking devices to the skin of the intended target … can fly through open windows, or remain attached to clothing until the intended target goes indoors.

      Again, this is a government sponsored/created piece of technology for the expressed purpose of breaking the bounds of personal privacy.

  2. Big_Foot (@Big_Foot) August 25, 2012 / 7:36 pm

    I remember my dad pulling me and my brother out of bed so we could watch Neil Armstrong take that historic “small step”. It was about 11:00 pm EDT, quite a bit past my normal bedtime. The TV image was difficult to make out, due to the high contrast between sunlight and shadow, but I got to witness history.

  3. Casper August 25, 2012 / 7:59 pm

    RIP Neil. I’d like to think you are looking down at our planet for the second time.

    Cluster,
    “Casper was trying to tell us that extracting oil from the ground via fracking was beyond our ability.”

    I didn’t say we didn’t have the ability to do it. What I said was:
    “Considering the dangers of fracking to water supplies, that’s not a bad idea.”

    I was speaking of the dangers to the environment.

    • Amazona August 25, 2012 / 9:24 pm

      No, casper, you were regurgitating Leftist BS about POSSIBLE dangers to the environment, about which you are too lazy to check out for yourself.

      And I see you are still doing it in spite of being corrected.

  4. Casper August 25, 2012 / 8:03 pm

    BTW, The space program is a prime example of a big government program initiated by a Democrat.

    • Amazona August 25, 2012 / 9:22 pm

      Yes, casper, we are all indebted to that great Democrat, Dwight D, Eisenhower, who was president when we sent Explorer 1 into space.

      PLEASE tell us you don’t teach history!

      Let me clarify that, as it is obvious that no matter what the class title may be, you are too incompetent to teach history.

      PLEASE tell us you don’t try to teach history!

    • Cluster August 25, 2012 / 9:23 pm

      An assumption that Americans can’t find a solution to the problem, provided the problem exists. Try and slip out of that one Cap.

      And JFK would not be elected in today’s democratic party.

      • Casper August 25, 2012 / 10:10 pm

        Cluster
        August 25, 2012 at 9:23 pm #
        “An assumption that Americans can’t find a solution to the problem, provided the problem exists. Try and slip out of that one Cap”

        Pointing out that there is science (that you probably don’t believe in) that fracking is hurting the environment isn’t assuming anything. If I point out that there isn’t a cure for cancer at this time, I am not assuming that there never will be or that Americans can’t find it. i would hope they would.

      • Cluster August 25, 2012 / 11:19 pm

        I don’t believe in science? Casper you just showed yourself to be a completely ignorant and mal intended liberal who now deserves my scorn. liberals like you are a waste of skin and parasites to this great country. Quit sucking the blood from productive members of our society and please stop teaching our children.

      • Casper August 26, 2012 / 6:23 pm

        “Cluster
        August 25, 2012 at 11:19 pm #
        I don’t believe in science?”

        I didn’t say you don’t believe in science, i said you probably didn’t believe in the science about fracking. Sorry I hurt your feelings. I will continue teaching and being a productive member of society.

    • tiredoflibbs August 25, 2012 / 10:57 pm

      Actually, cappy, the government was a lot smaller then……

      PLUS, this was spending that actually created thousands of jobs, advanced technology and brought the country together….

      … now the big government, big spending Democrats would not pay for such a program!! They only spend money and create programs that BUY VOTES, make more people dependent on government, redistribute wealth and divide the country.

      ALSO, at the time, there were some big name proggies that wanted to cancel the space program in favor of spending money to feed the “hungry children” in the big cities AFTER THE GREAT SOCIETY HAD BEEN PASSED, namely Walter Mondale.

      They now only give lip service to the whole job creation and develop new technology mantra.

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 26, 2012 / 7:09 pm

      And then killed by a Democrat because he needed more money for Solyndra and sundry cronies…

  5. Casper August 25, 2012 / 9:29 pm

    NASA was started under Eisenhower, but Kennedy is the one who the goal of an American on the moon before the end of the Decade.

    http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html

    Neither Kennedy or Eisenhower would be elected by today’s Republican party.

    And yes I teach history and I do it very well.

    • Cluster August 25, 2012 / 9:39 pm

      Romney actually has a lot in common with both Ike and JFK.

      • Casper August 25, 2012 / 9:53 pm

        Cluster
        August 25, 2012 at 9:39 pm #
        “Romney actually has a lot in common with both Ike and JFK.”

        What?

      • Cluster August 25, 2012 / 10:30 pm

        JFK was actually richer than Romney but no one accused him of not paying taxes which is ironic knowing how concerned liberals are with that. And Ike was a moderate republican who, along with JFK, believed in the individual and America’s promise. Again, similar to Romney.

    • Amazona August 25, 2012 / 9:46 pm

      But that’s not what you said, is it?

      No, you claimed that the space program was started under a Dem president. Got a dictionary? Look it up. INITIATED

      As far as you teaching history well, does that include teaching that believing in the Constitution as written means wanting a return to slavery and depriving women of property and voting rights? Because teachers tend to teach what they believe, and you argued this with me for many posts.

      Does it include teaching that people should vote for “the person” and ignore the political system each candidate represents?

      Does it include the fact that when we were actually governed by our Constitution we leapfrogged over established nations and in less than 100 years set new standards for economic prosperity and personal liberty?

      If the children in Casper are lucky, you keep your historical errors limited to who started the space program and other trivia.

      • Casper August 25, 2012 / 9:56 pm

        Amazona,
        I apologize for the error. I was thinking of the manned space program.

      • Amazona August 26, 2012 / 12:49 am

        Yeah, sure, casper. You were just thinking of one thing and said another. I’m sure it happens to you all the time.

        That, or you get caught being wrong, then try to squirm out of it, and then pull the full weasel act like your last statement.

        Your addiction to brainless RRL talking points is pretty blatant. From the totally stupid “Romney is all about what is best for him and his rich buddies.” , which is so petty and so lame and so crass and so STUPID, you move on to a claim that “..Glad you like Romney’s health plan since it is the basics for Obamacare…”

        Tell us, casper, when you are doing such a slam-bang super-duper job of teaching history, do you manage to explain the enumerated duties and the 10th Amendment and how Romney’s health plan was allowed under the 10th Amendment but Obamacare exceeds the enumerated duties of the federal government?

        You do know Massachusetts is a state, don’t you? You do know that states can do a lot of things that the feds can’t do, don’t you?

        And then you try this: “Pointing out that there is science (that you probably don’t believe in) that fracking is hurting the environment isn’t assuming anything”

        Well, it is assuming there is science that fracking is hurting the environment, and here again your assumptions are false. Though you were quite catty in your bitchy little snarl that Cluster probably doesn’t believe in science. You really are a petty little man, aren’t you?

        But no, casper, there is no actual science that “fracking is hurting the environment”. What an idiot! Sure, there are a few pseudo-scientists looking for a new scam now that the hot air has been let out of the big GLOBAL WARMING !!!!!!! hysteria, but their audience is very limited—not many fall for their claims.

        I notice you did not answer my question: “As far as you teaching history well, does that include teaching that believing in the Constitution as written means wanting a return to slavery and depriving women of property and voting rights? Because teachers tend to teach what they believe, and you argued this with me for many posts.”

        Speak up, cappy—do you teach this or don’t you?

      • Amazona August 26, 2012 / 12:53 am

        When we talk about bad education, we do realize that you could be a poster boy for the deficiencies in middle school education, don’t you?

        You are a caricature of a befuddled, clueless, Lefty Lemming teacher, spouting Leftist nonsense and lies. I can see how you have a certain comfort level feeding this crap to children, but I really don’t understand why you come here and try to get away with it, when everything you say is so thoroughly shot down and you are inevitably shown up as a fool.

    • neocon1 August 26, 2012 / 9:47 am

      And yes I teach history and I do it very well.

      OMG

      THE very essence of why to send your kids to private schools or home school them……..

      RIP neal….

  6. Casper August 25, 2012 / 10:48 pm

    “Cluster
    August 25, 2012 at 10:30 pm #
    JFK was actually richer than Romney but no one accused him of not paying taxes which is ironic knowing how concerned liberals are with that.”

    What does that have to do with their political positions? Unless you think all rich people are alike. If Romney is worried that people think he isn’t paying taxes, all he has to do is show his Income taxes. I’d bet k\Kennedy would have.

    “And Ike was a moderate republican who, along with JFK, believed in the individual and America’s promise. Again, similar to Romney.”

    Romney is hardly moderate. Ike started NASA, expanded Social Security, and launched the Interstate Highway System. All big government. Try again.

    • Cluster August 25, 2012 / 11:07 pm

      JFK said “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”. He also lowered taxes. That is the polar opposite of Obama. JFK is not a Casper or an Obama democrat. Not even close.

      Romney helped craft government health care for his constituents in Mass., and has a plan to strengthen Medicare. Obama’s lack of a plan will ensure that it goes broke.

      JFK and Ike are a hell of a lot like Romney, and nothing like Obama

      • Cluster August 25, 2012 / 11:16 pm

        Obama in fact has a lot more in common with Chavez than he does any president this country has ever had.

      • Casper August 25, 2012 / 11:19 pm

        “JFK said “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”.

        Romney is all about what is best for him and his rich buddies.

        “He also lowered taxes.”

        By all means, let’s go back to the Kennedy tax rates.

        “Romney helped craft government health care for his constituents in Mass., and has a plan to strengthen Medicare.”

        Glad you like Romney’s health plan since it is the basics for Obamacare. Obamacare extends the life of Medicare while Romney wants to end Obamacare and shorten the life of Medicare.

        “JFK and Ike are a hell of a lot like Romney, and nothing like Obama”

        They aren’t like Romney at all and I would vote for either one.

      • Cluster August 25, 2012 / 11:26 pm

        Casper,

        Please let me know when the day comes that you can offer something other than talking points. Romney has helped create much more of the middle class than the Amateur Obama could ever dream of. Staples, and other business’s that Bain helped get going now pay a lot of middle class wages. Obama helped a lot people join the unemployment ranks, especially those who worked at solyndra. In fact, there is less people in the work force now that at anytime in our history thanks to the boy wonder and ignorant people like you, so you hardly have an opinion that matters. You best pay attention to basket weaving.

      • Amazona August 26, 2012 / 12:55 am

        casper, do you remember the argument JFK made for lowering taxes?

        Do you agree or disagree with his reasoning?

      • tiredoflibbs August 26, 2012 / 6:49 am

        cappy the mindless drone: ““JFK said “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”.”

        It is so ironic that you post this! obAMATEUR is the anti-thesis of that quote! His legislative proposals (well not really his but his agenda) are not about what the people can do for the country, but what his GOVERNMENT, as the national nanny, can do for the people.

        Are you that closed-minded and blind (or is it you just look away?) that you cannot see the difference between the two? JFK supported tax cuts to spur the economy, and obAMATEUR says that it is government spending, as an example.

        Yes, you are too dense and dishonest to be teaching our children anything but gym, music or basket weaving.

      • neocon1 August 26, 2012 / 9:49 am

        JFK HATED COMMUNISM

        barry IS a marxist

        JFK = barry hussein anti matter

      • neocon1 August 26, 2012 / 10:29 am

        cluster

        he is left of Chavez, at least hugo does not hate 1/2 his fellow countrymen.

    • Cluster August 25, 2012 / 11:09 pm

      Try again? I prove you to time and time again that you are wrong, and you want me to keep doing that?

    • Cluster August 25, 2012 / 11:14 pm

      And just a little more needed education for you Casper. When conservatives speak of big government, we are not speaking about a space program or building highways, those are actually what the government is suppose to do. We are speaking against increasing food stamps by 164%, by insisting that contraception is covered by religious institutions, by forcing people to engage in commerce, by issuing decrees and ignoring federal laws, by imposing duplicitous and needless regulations, etc, etc..

      You know for a teacher, you seem awfully ill informed.

      • Casper August 25, 2012 / 11:28 pm

        “When conservatives speak of big government, we are not speaking about a space program or building highways, those are actually what the government is suppose to do.”

        Glad to know both are included in the Constitution, Also glad to know you support more of a stimulus.

      • Cluster August 26, 2012 / 12:03 am

        Glad to know that your reading comprehension is as bad as your political understanding. Stimulus is just a vehicle for liberal corruption. Highway systems should be built with my tax money which is currently going to fund crony green energy projects. Seriously Casper, you are too easy to defeat in a debate. You bore me.

      • Retired Spook August 26, 2012 / 12:08 am

        Your mind doesn’t seem to function in an very organized way, Casper, which is odd given your occupation. Clearly the Constitutional rationale for the Interstate Highway system is contained in Article I, Section 8, as it’s original intent was primarily connected to national defense, but as the benefits to the welfare of the nation have been monumental, it qualifies on MORE than one level. As for specifically being mentioned in the Constitution (are you sure you teach history WELL?):

        From the enumerated duties under the General Welfare Clause: “To establish Post Offices and Post Roads” Gee, do you think a significant quantity of mail is carried over the Interstate system? More importantly, do you think ANY Congressman or Senator stood on the floor of Congress and asked, how does building a network of interstate highways qualify under the Constitution? I don’t think so. (are you sure you even TEACH history?)

        As for the space program, there are a number of parallels between space exploration and the Lewis & Clark Expedition. The official reason (what Congress appropriated the money for) for Lewis & Clark was to seek out trade and trapping opportunities. To that end, the “Expedition was considered a great success, and it did meet its official purpose, as it helped foster an American fur trade.

        And it also met the other various goals, especially by increasing scientific knowledge (much like the space program) and providing more reliable maps. And the Lewis and Clark Expedition also strengthened a United States claim to the Oregon Territory, so the expedition did ultimately lead toward the settlement of the west.”

        I can’t imagine that you would deny the positive effects of the technology explosion that resulted from the space program as it relates to the general welfare of the nation.

      • Amazona August 26, 2012 / 1:04 am

        casper, take a break and go get a saucer of milk. Frankly, it’s embarrassing to see a grown man act so catty and infantile. I know you spend your days around adolescents but really, do you have to act like one?

        “….glad to know you support more of a stimulus…” would be an embarrassment for anyone capable of shame. Really, casper, is this the best you can do?

        Are you really claiming that the interstate highway system was just a gimmick to jump start a faltering economy? Are you really claiming that the reason for the space program was to invent a bunch of jobs to try to hide the erosion of actual job creation due to poor leadership and management? Really? You sure you want to stick with that?

        You going to try to claim the “stimulus” scam of Obama’s actually did any good? Aside from the invention of “jobs saved”, which is so goofy only a few goofs find it compelling, the claim of jobs “created” comes out to spending hundreds of thousands of dollars per. And then there are the billions of unaccounted-for funds, that seem to have stuck to the fingers of cronies and bureaucrats. And, of course, the billions thrown at political buddies in failing businesses that got the money and then, golly gee, FAILED—–but the money was gone.

        Hmmmmmm.

        You might as well—-it’s really no dumber than any of the rest of the crap you come up with.

        Just snippier.

      • neocon1 August 26, 2012 / 9:56 am

        catspuke is the epitome of the govt trough feeders. NO brains, NO real life education, just some slug spouting the standard leftist – union talking points like the mind numbed robot he is.

        back on topic
        we went to a dear friends funeral yesterday san 56 yo mother of 2 and a great wife. the curse of cancer finally got her.
        RIP Debby
        it was at her wake we learned about Neal Armstrong.
        very sad day indeed.

      • neocon1 August 26, 2012 / 10:11 am

        LOL

        This rather brilliantly cuts thru all the political doublespeak we get.
        It puts it into a much better perspective.

        Lesson # 1:

        * U.S. Tax revenue: $2,170,000,000,000
        * Fed budget: $3,820,000,000,000
        * New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000
        * National debt: $14,271,000,000,000
        * Recent budget cuts: $ 38,500,000,000

        Let’s now remove 8 zeros and pretend it’s a household budget:

        Annual family income: $21,700
        * Money the family spent: $38,200
        * New debt on the credit card: $16,500
        * Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
        * Total budget cuts so far: $38.50
        Got It ?????

        OK now Lesson # 2: Here’s another way to look at the Debt Ceiling:

        Let’s say, You come home from work and find there has been a sewer
        backup in your neighborhood….and your home has sewage all the way up
        to your ceilings.

        What do you think you should do ……

        Raise the ceilings, or pump out the crap?

      • neocon1 August 26, 2012 / 10:42 am

        thuth to power

        Allen West: Obama Serving Americans a ‘Crap Sandwich’ With a Smile

        “If you’re feeding a person a crap sandwich with a smile, it’s still a crap sandwich.”

      • Amazona August 26, 2012 / 11:00 am

        I also went to a funeral this week, and on Friday had to say goodbye to a man I cherished and loved for more than 20 years.

        What was so interesting was the commentary on him and his life. It touched upon his humor, his kindness, his incredibly vast store of knowledge about what seemed like everything, but it focused on his honor.

        I have never heard anyone eulogized so extensively on his honor, his integrity, his commitment to the right thing.

        I knew he was a Marine, but never knew that he was in kind of a Special Forces group in Korea, going behind enemy lines to disrupt whatever they could—they actually robbed a North Korean bank. He was an Eagle Scout, and joined the Marines at 17—the minister read his Marine Corps oath, and said it guided every day of his life from that day forward, and knowing him as I did I believe it.

        As I heard people talking about him, as I remembered my own memories of him, it occurred to me that we may not have as many men like this as we once had.

        I met him later in his life, when he and his wife got horses. We trained and showed their horses for them and my husband and I went to many horse shows with them, each of them a storehouse of memories. My contribution to his legend was not of military feats, but of things like stopping our little convoy on the way to a horse show to gather up a flock/herd/covey of puppies that had escaped and were on the highway. We caught them all, took them back into their yard, and as fast as we could drop them over the fence they were back outside—we ended up rebuilding part of the fence before we got back on our way.

        And I had no trouble reconciling the tough and dedicated Marine with the laughing guy with an armful of squirming puppies, because it all came down to the same thing—he was a good GOOD man.

    • J. R. Babcock August 26, 2012 / 10:40 am

      JFK was actually richer than Romney but no one accused him of not paying taxes which is ironic knowing how concerned liberals are with that.”

      Nobody who counts is accusing Romney of not paying his taxes either. Although clearly people who don’t count are important sources of information for you, Casper. Pathetic is the strongest clean word I can think of to describe you.

      • neocon1 August 26, 2012 / 10:43 am

        Casper. Pathetic is the strongest clean word I can think of to describe you.

        BINGO!!

      • neocon1 August 26, 2012 / 10:49 am

        Bzzzzzttttttt SORRY CHARLEY….the WRONG TUNA!!

        ‘The Right Leader for Our Times’: Ex-Republican Former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist Endorses Obama

        charley barry larry a trio

      • J. R. Babcock August 26, 2012 / 10:57 am

        ‘The Right Leader for Our Times’: Ex-Republican Former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist Endorses Obama

        I’ll bet the folks who voted for Rubio over Crist are patting themselves on the back for avoiding a really bad choice.

      • Amazona August 26, 2012 / 11:03 am

        I got the impression that Florida was pretty glad to get rid of Charlie. He seems to think he is getting back at them by supporting Obama but really, just how much do you think Floridians think of his opinion?

        I’m going to go with Not Much.

      • Cluster August 26, 2012 / 11:21 am

        Crist reminds me of Axlerod – a smarmy creepy failed porn star. The democrats can have him.

    • Amazona August 26, 2012 / 11:52 am

      “If Romney is worried that people think he isn’t paying taxes…”

      Really? You REALLY think Romney is “worried” about anything the brainless lemmings pick up from their talking heads?

      I can assure you, casper, that anything “thought” by people like you is so far removed from importance that Romney couldn’t care less.

      Romney’s father was a governor and his mother ran for the Senate, so he knew politics from an early age. He grew up knowing the kind of scrutiny to which political candidates are exposed, and the kinds of dirty tricks they can expect. He himself went into politics in 1994, and has been in politics ever since, running for the Senate, running for governor, trying for the nomination as the GOP presidential candidate.

      And mindless lemmings like casper, so eager to find some garbage to roll around in, actually think that this man, so smart he took his MBA and Law School classes SIMULTANEOUSLY at Harvard and scored outrageously high in both, who built a company into a multi-billion dollar company, who took over a failing and disasterous Olympics and turned it around into a spectacular success, whose income has been meticulously documented and recorded and reported to the IRS, who grew up in a political family and who planned to make another run for the White House, WOULD NOT PAY HIS TAXES??????????????????

      It defies belief. Not to mention that he is running against the most corrupt President ever, a graduate of the Chicago School of Political Thuggery, who controls both Treasury and Justice and who probably had a copy of Romney’s tax returns on his desk a couple of years ago—yet they squeal that he might not have paid any taxes?

      The stupidity of the Left base defies all reason, But it does explain how and why they ARE the base of the Left.

      I thought of apologizing to casper for introducing a logical thought process into his weird fantasy, but then realized he would not recognize it anyway, having had no practical experience with one.

      • Retired Spook August 26, 2012 / 12:12 pm

        Amazona,

        You can bet, given his MO in all previous elections, that, if there were something damaging in Romney’s tax returns, Obama would have conveniently had them leaked by now.

      • Amazona August 26, 2012 / 12:24 pm

        Exactly, Spook. Knowing that there is nothing ominous or illegal or in any way shifty in Romney’s tax returns, the Left is just doing what it does so well, and creating a cloud of suspicion by the use of innuendo.

        As they know so well, it works great with the rabble.

    • dbschmidt August 26, 2012 / 1:48 pm

      BTW, Casper, DoD (still government but not what you meant) is responsible for the Interstate highway system modeled after Hitler’s Germany but I am sure you knew that. Then again, Bain Capital is responsible for saving the ice cream parlor chain Obama had his first kiss with the future Michelle Obama at. Maybe, just maybe, if Bain wasn’t as good at it is in rescuing companies there would be no politician from Chicago outside of ChiTown.

  7. Raging Bull August 26, 2012 / 11:35 am

    sorry to see that this thread got hijacked so far from it’s original premise. i know it’s hard to ignore a person who is mentally void as is casper. but you guys shouldn’t let him suck you into to his moronic whining…at least not in this thread.

    Back to Armstrong…all i can say is that, while i wasn’t alive when he landed on the moon, it still is a fantastic accomplishment of what actually did happen…for everyone involved in the effort. and armstrong made sure that he didn’t take credit for the mission, that it took the entire team.

    the thing that i’ve always gone back to, is how profound his statement was. 10 words that will resonate for centuries!!!!!

    Rest In Peace Neil Armstrong. and Godspeed…you were/are/ and always will be a true American hero!!!!!!!

    • Amazona August 26, 2012 / 12:13 pm

      Bull, it always happens—even when there was so much focused discussion on the Natural Born Citizen thread, there were odd posts that had nothing to do with it.

      And once we have paid homage to Armstrong as a pioneer and symbol of American greatness, and a great man, there really isn’t much to say about his death. He had a long and full life, and dying at 82 is not really a tragedy. He had the admiration of a nation while he lived, which is what matters.

      I do wish we still had the desire to stick with a space program. I think it is a great loss to the country and I hope future leaders will rebuild what is being disassembled now.

      For a while there seemed to be a national commitment to follow through with space exploration, but then NASA changed its mission to outreach to Islam, and it seems we have gotten off track. But just two years ago we had what looked like a plan:

      From: NATIONAL SPACE POLICY of the
      UNITED STATES of AMERICA (complete with presidential seal) [emphasis mine]

      JUNE 28, 2010
      Goals

      Consistent with these principles, the United States will pursue the following goals in its national space programs:

      • Energize competitive domestic industries to participate in global markets and advance the development of: satellite manufacturing; satellite-based services; space launch; terrestrial applications; and increased entrepreneurship
      .
      • Expand international cooperation on mutually beneficial space activities to: broaden and extend the benefits of space; further the peaceful use of space; and enhance collection and partnership in sharing of space-derived information .

      • Strengthen stability in space through: domestic and international measures to promote safe and responsible operations in space; improved information collection and sharing for space object collision avoidance; protection of critical space systems and supporting infrastructures, with special attention to the critical interdependence of space and information systems; and strengthening measures to mitigate orbital debris .

      • Increase assurance and resilience of mission-essential functions enabled by commercial, civil, scientific, and national security spacecraft and supporting infrastructure against disruption, degradation, and destruction, whether from environmental, mechanical, electronic, or hostile causes.

      • Pursue human and robotic initiatives to develop innovative technologies, foster new industries, strengthen international partnerships, inspire our Nation and the world, increase humanity’s understanding of the Earth, enhance scientific discovery, and explore our solar system and the universe beyond.
      .

      • Improve space-based Earth and solar observation capabilities needed to conduct science, forecast terrestrial and near-Earth space weather, monitor climate and global change, manage natural resources, and support disaster response and recovery .

      All actions undertaken by departments and agencies in implementing this directive shall be within the overall resource and policy guidance provided by the President; consistent with U .S . law and regulations, treaties and other agreements to which the United States is a party, other applicable international law, U .S . national and homeland security requirements, U .S . foreign policy, and national interests; and in accordance with the Presidential Memorandum on Transparency and Open Government .

      Intersector Guidelines

      In pursuit of this directive’s goals, all departments and agencies shall execute the following guidance: Foundational Activities and Capabilities

      Strengthen U.S. Leadership In Space-Related Science, Technology, and Industrial Bases. Departments and agencies shall: conduct basic and applied research that increases capabilities and decreases costs, where this research is best supported by the government; encourage an innovative and entrepreneurial commercial space sector; and help ensure the availability of space-related industrial capabilities in support of critical government functions .

      Enhance Capabilities for Assured Access To Space. United States access to space depends in the first instance on launch capabilities . United States Government payloads shall be launched on vehicles manufactured in the United States unless exempted by the National Security Advisor and the Assistant to the President for Science and Technology and Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, consistent with established interagency standards and coordination guidelines . Where applicable to their responsibilities departments and agencies shall:
      − Work jointly to acquire space launch services and hosted payload arrangements that are reliable, responsive to United States Government needs, and cost-effective;
      Enhance operational efficiency, increase capacity, and reduce launch costs by investing in the modernization of space launch infrastructure; and
      − Develop launch systems and technologies necessary to assure and sustain future reliable and efficient access to space, in cooperation with U .S . industry, when sufficient U .S . commercial capabilities and services do not exist .

      • Maintain and Enhance Space-based Positioning, Navigation, and Timing Systems. The United States must maintain its leadership in the service, provision, and use of global navigation satellite systems (GNSS). To this end, the United States shall:
      − Provide continuous worldwide access, for peaceful civil uses, to the Global Positioning
      System (GPS) and its government-provided augmentations, free of direct user charges;
      − Engage with foreign GNSS providers to encourage compatibility and interoperability, promote transparency in civil service provision, and enable market access for U .S . industry;
      − Operate and maintain the GPS constellation to satisfy civil and national security needs, consistent with published performance standards and interface specifications . Foreign positioning, navigation, and timing (PNT) services may be used to augment and strengthen the resiliency of GPS; and
      − Invest in domestic capabilities and support international activities to detect, mitigate, and increase resiliency to harmful interference to GPS, and identify and implement, as necessary and appropriate, redundant and back-up systems or approaches for critical infrastructure, key resources, and mission-essential functions .

      Develop and Retain Space Professionals. The primary goals of space professional development and retention are: achieving mission success in space operations and acquisition; stimulating innovation to improve commercial, civil, and national security space capabilities; and advancing science, exploration, and discovery . Toward these ends, departments and agencies, in cooperation with industry and academia, shall establish standards, seek to create opportunities for the current space workforce, and implement measures to develop, maintain, and retain skilled space professionals, including engineering and scientific personnel and experienced space system developers and operators, in government and commercial workforces . Departments and agencies also shall promote and expand public-private partnerships to foster educational achievement in Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM) programs, supported by targeted investments in such initiatives .

      • Improve Space System Development and Procurement . Departments and agencies shall:
      − Improve timely acquisition and deployment of space systems through enhancements in estimating costs, technological risk and maturity, and industrial base capabilities;
      − Reduce programmatic risk through improved management of requirements and by taking advantage of cost-effective opportunities to test high-risk components, payloads, and technologies in space or relevant environments;
      − Embrace innovation to cultivate and sustain an entrepreneurial U .S . research and development environment; and
      − Engage with industrial partners to improve processes and effectively manage the supply chains .

      • Strengthen Interagency Partnerships. Departments and agencies shall improve their partner¬ships through cooperation, collaboration, information sharing, and/or alignment of common pursuits . Departments and agencies shall make their capabilities and expertise available to each other to strengthen our ability to achieve national goals, identify desired outcomes, leverage U .S . capabilities, and develop implementation and response strategies .

      • neocon1 August 26, 2012 / 1:51 pm

        I watched it live on TV (moon landing) Spectacular.

      • Count d'Haricots August 26, 2012 / 3:45 pm

        I was at Philmont Scout Ranch, Cimarron New Mexico. There were no televisions at the ranch, we were taken to the Lodge where we heard the landing on a transistor radio.

        My father was at the National Jamboree near Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, they played a delayed telecast at the evening arena show the following night.

        By the time I got back home the entire planet had tired of watching the same video and it was months later when I finally saw a portion of the footage. It would be years before I saw the entire video everyone else had seen that July night.

      • Cluster August 26, 2012 / 4:31 pm

        I watched the landing with my parents in McCall, Idaho.

  8. J. R. Babcock August 27, 2012 / 12:11 pm

    Apparently NBC News was not familiar with Neil Armstrong. Can someone just shoot NBC and put them out of their misery.

    • Amazona August 27, 2012 / 1:44 pm

      There is a very easy way to tell the difference between Neil Young and Neil Armstrong—the astronaut’s voice does not make my ears bleed.

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