Monday Morning Open Thread

Really doing this because there are several things I want to shine our tiny spotlight on:

Andrew Sullivan actually writes and article entitled “President Obama:  the Democrats Reagan“.  Here’s the challenge – I had to stop at the end of the second paragraph because going any further would have brought on fits of laughter so extreme as to be health-threatening.  So, how far can you get in to it before you have to stop?

There is a poll for Pennsylvania showing Obama only up by 2 and under 50%.  My prediction?  Obama will win Pennsylvania…but if you do see the State called for Romney then we’re in for a Reagan-style, 1980 landslide.  And it could happen.

Now, just why would people turn to Romney in such large numbers?  Perhaps it is because our President is a complete fool?  Calling what has happened in Libya a “bump in the road” is an idiot’s statement.  Seriously – I see your “47%” Democrats and raise you this.

Or maybe its because our President lives in a fantasy world?

Why Wisconsin is in Play.  More important for me is the fact that Wisconsin is in play.  Obama won the State by 14 points in 2008.  It should be a walkover for him.  It isn’t – in fact, its probably no better than 50/50 that Obama will win it.  So, going from 14 point lead to zero point lead in a blue State and yet we’re supposed to believe that Obama’s on an easy track for re-election?  Sure, whatever you say…

Camden, NJ (Obama by 34.8 in 2008) our poorest and most crime-ridden city is looking to disband its police force because of budget constraints.  I haven’t been able to find the information so I will place a bet with anyone who asks:  I bet it has been at least 40 years since Republicans ran the place.  Any takers?  I’m sure of winning because it is only liberal Democrats who can take a prosperous American city and turn it in to a crime-ridden, impoverished pest hole.  And what liberals have done for Detroit, Camden, Los Angeles, etc, etc, etc, is precisely what they want to do to the rest of America.  Oh, do I hear a liberal whine of “no, we don’t”?  Ok, fine – then you explain to me why when you gain exclusive political control things always work out like Camden?

174 thoughts on “Monday Morning Open Thread

  1. Amazona's avatar Amazona September 24, 2012 / 12:51 pm

    I was listening to Fox News on satellite radio Saturday and heard one of the Libs on a panel earnestly explain that “redistribution merely allows more people to participate in the economic process”.

    This was another example of a Lib comment being so outrageous I nearly drove off the road, laughing. The Lib Redefinition Machine is really working overtime, but this is a classic.

    It is part of the new and desperate effort to sanitize the word “redistribution” now that Obama owns it. Now, suddenly, it is exactly the same as buying something. Now it is “redistribution” when your boss hands you a paycheck and “redistribution” when you use that money to buy a refrigerator, etc.

    They are stuck with the task of trying to convince Americans that spending a dollar for a product is exactly like dropping a dollar into a beggar’s hat on the street.

    More to the point, they are stuck with task of convincing Americans that asking for a dollar in exchange for a product is exactly like begging for a dollar on the street.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 24, 2012 / 12:55 pm

      Maybe we should have a contest;

      “Refusing to prosecute crime merely allows more people to participate in the freedom process.”

      “Car theft merely allows more people to participate in the automotive process.”

      • Rightlane's avatar Rightlane September 25, 2012 / 3:24 pm

        They are redistributing the wealth, but it’s from middle class pensioners and all of us living on a fixed income. Even if you have a job, after QE III, it’s unlikely your pay raises –federal workers haven’t had one in what was recently announced to be three years- will keep pace with inflation. They are not changing the numbers they are just changing the numbers meaning or should I say making the numbers meaningless.

  2. dbschmidt's avatar dbschmidt September 24, 2012 / 12:56 pm

    Wisconsin in play? Say it ain’t so. 🙂

    Media Put 18,000 in Not-Quite-Full 5,000-Seat Arena for Obama in Wisconsin

    President Barack Obama is having trouble drawing large crowds on the campaign trail. At the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, his campaign was forced to move his acceptance speech from the 74,000-seat Bank of America Stadium to the 20,000 Time Warner Cable Arena, citing weather as the excuse. But the media are always eager to help–for example, putting 18,000 people inside a 5,000-seat arena at an Obama event in Milwaukee on Saturday.

    Don’t forget to blame the messenger: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/23/Media-Put-18000-in-5000-Seat-Arena-for-Obama

      • dbschmidt's avatar dbschmidt September 24, 2012 / 1:36 pm

        If you have ever read, and comprehended, any of my previous posts on polling–you would understand that I don’t give any polls much weight as they are easily manipulated depending on intentions.

        I note you have no comment on how “in the tank” the MSM are for Obama and that was my point. I really do not care much for either candidate; however, I will be voting (early or not) to make sure there is a new resident in the WH come Jan. Buddy

        BTW, I could post volumes about how the MSM is acting like little sheeples to the One but the incumbent who should have a lock is stuck in a real fight no matter how much “help” he is offered. Apparently, to you it doesn’t matter at all about the fact that most of the RCP polls average +6 to + 12 over-polling in favor of the One..

      • dbschmidt's avatar dbschmidt September 24, 2012 / 2:11 pm

        Here is another view of the polling that I do not hold in high regard and I would also take these results with a large grain of salt but it may just give you some perspective in total.

        http://www.unskewedpolls.com/

        In States like Virginia & Pennsylvania, it is as simple as where you take the poll–was it in the concentrated areas of NE Virginia that is predominantly tied to Washington DC or in the more rural but populous areas that have lost coal mining jobs to new regulations? Same with Pennsylvania.

        RCP shows NC (where I live) as a toss up but state-wide polling shows Romney a +6 at the moment. Wisconsin is shown as a “leans Obama” State with RCP’s +7.8.which is over-polling at +6 to +12 based on 2008 turnout. Unless you believe that Obama can get the same or greater turnout (+7) than in 2008 this year–time to revise the numbers.

        This is after self-identified Democrats have gone down 3 points (more actually) while self-identified Republicans have gained almost 4 points. Me, I have one vote and really do not follow polls except for the idiocy involved and vote as a proud Libertarian.

        Lies, damned lies, and statistics — Mark Twain

      • Mike's avatar Mike September 25, 2012 / 4:58 am

        Yup , he is winning alright…….take the SKEW polls away and see what your liberal brain will find out

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 24, 2012 / 1:23 pm

      But db, the Obamabots have an explanation for low turnout for Obama rallies—it’s all part of a PLAN, doncha see, a PLAN to make these events more —– intimate——-so the faithful can get closer to The One We Have All Been Waiting For.

      There are lots and lots of folks, you understand, who WOULD go, you know, if only they COULD, if only the campaign had not decided to LIMIT attendance. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

      And the Complicit Agenda Media are doing their part, pumping up the figures and cheerleading like crazy, not showing the vast swathes of empty seats at the Dem Convention or the early decision to move the final event indoors—to a coincidentally much smaller venue—-days before the weather excuse ever came up

      • mitch's avatar mitch September 24, 2012 / 6:01 pm

        This sounds like Mark’s convoluted rational for Pawlenty quitting. If the polling was reversed, you be lauding the praises upon the science of statistics. But since you don’t want to believe the polls, you claim “the media” is manipulating the numbers. When in reality they are just reporting them.

  3. James's avatar James September 24, 2012 / 1:03 pm

    Mark,

    The amount of self delusion I see on this blog daily is almost unbearable.

    Do you discount all the battleground polls as “wrong” or distorted? I am sure you want to support your candidate, and that’s fine, but at least be honest about his chances.

    The man is down in most swing states, he is down nationally, and on top of that, he is dragging down the rest of the GOP ticket in Senate races. (see florida senate race).

    Ill make a prediction right now, you can save it and we will revisit it on election day.

    Obama wins 52% of the vote, and about 320 electoral votes.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 24, 2012 / 1:30 pm

      If it is so unbearable, James, then do yourself a favor and spare yourself the unbearable agony of witnessing it.

      Or, if you insist on coming back here, try to do something besides cheerleading for Obama, maybe address some actual political issues.

      For example, how and why is it good for the nation to have more than $16 T in debt? And what impact will a rise in interest rates have on the service of this debt?

      Or what has been the international advantage of nonstop gloating over the killing of Bin Laden?

      Or why did the White House insist, for 9 days, that the Libyan ambassador’s death was due to a spontaneous protest against a film which might not even exist in any form other than a short “trailer” for the film, in a nation in which only about 2% of the population has internet exposure to see this clip, months after it went online? The international press knew it was not only not a spontaneous protest but that there was no real protest at all. The international press knew, and stated, that it was a carefully planned and executed terrorist attack to mark 9/11. It turns out that we had warning three days in advance of a planned attack. Why did the White House lie, for over a week, and continue to try to blame this video?

      You know, address something of actual import, rather than doing a rah-rah popularity contest Identity Politics post a week before the candidates have even debated?

      • dbschmidt's avatar dbschmidt September 24, 2012 / 1:41 pm

        But Ama,

        As a matter of course–I always take my RPGs & heavy machine guns with me to the theater just in case I have issues with the trailers.

      • James's avatar James September 24, 2012 / 6:27 pm

        Amazona,

        If it is so unbearable, James, then do yourself a favor and spare yourself the unbearable agony of witnessing it.

        I come here for comic relief, and sometimes for utter disbelief.

        Or, if you insist on coming back here, try to do something besides cheerleading for Obama, maybe address some actual political issues.

        I address issues all the time. I just happen to think you are wrong on every issue.

        For example, how and why is it good for the nation to have more than $16 T in debt? And what impact will a rise in interest rates have on the service of this debt?

        What are interest rates right now? how long have you and other conservatives been pleading that interest rates will go up? How has our debt affected our ability to borrow even more? It hasn’t. People are paying US to keep their money! imagine that!

        Or what has been the international advantage of nonstop gloating over the killing of Bin Laden?

        What do you consider nonstop gloating? we killed the guy, announced it, didn’t release a picture of his dead body….disposed of his body at sea and that was it. What gloating has anyone done over this?

        Or why did the White House insist, for 9 days, that the Libyan ambassador’s death was due to a spontaneous protest against a film which might not even exist in any form other than a short “trailer” for the film, in a nation in which only about 2% of the population has internet exposure to see this clip, months after it went online?

        First off, as a matter of fact, the clip was shown on TV by the Egyptian media. No internet needed. Second, your 2% is a lie, Egyptians have more access to the internet. Third, the ambassador is dead, the reason he died, can be disputed…but that’s not really politically important this election cycle.

        The international press knew it was not only not a spontaneous protest but that there was no real protest at all. The international press knew, and stated, that it was a carefully planned and executed terrorist attack to mark 9/11. It turns out that we had warning three days in advance of a planned attack. Why did the White House lie, for over a week, and continue to try to blame this video?

        You can ask the White House yourself why the “lied”. Like I said, try and turn the election away from the economy and its a loser for the GOP.

        You know, address something of actual import, rather than doing a rah-rah popularity contest Identity Politics post a week before the candidates have even debated?

        If you look at historical trends, debates very RARELY have turned elections. do some research and come back to me about that. Also, for a person who HATES personality politics, you sure are depending on Mitt’s personality first and foremost at these debates to win over the electorate. Don’t even try to tell me that listeners or independents will change their vote because of the depth of policy detail Romney will lay out at these debates.

        But like I said, i’d be glad to discuss policy with you point by point. you start it and pose the question, Ill answer it point by point. something you’ve been clamoring for.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 25, 2012 / 12:00 am

        James, you and I went a round or two a couple of days ago and I don’t think there is much of anything left for us to say. You believe that this nation should be transformed into a new and different kind of country, very different from the goals of the Founding Fathers and very different from the form of government they established. I disagree, as strongly as possible.

        I don’t know what else can be said.

        I think the Constitution is the law of the land, you think it should be infinitely flexible to allow it to “bend” to accommodate whatever comes along. I think our country became great when it followed its Constitution, leapfrogging over established nations into becoming a beacon of economic prosperity and personal liberty, and that it has declined since it started to veer away from that fundamental rule of law. You think that adopting the huge central government concept of the Left would make this a better nation.

        I just don’t see that there is anything to talk about.

    • dvindice's avatar dvindice September 24, 2012 / 3:06 pm

      Been reading you posts again james? They are full of self delusion.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 24, 2012 / 3:25 pm

        dvindice, while James is such a devout follower, such a True Believer, that he is compelled to come here and post his wish list, we do need to give him credit for at least being the only Lefty here to stand up and state his political beliefs.

        He just really really REALLY want Obama to win, and he is really really REALLY out of touch with the vast segment of America that believes we should be governed by our Constitution, and the conflict has him kind of spinning in place, where all he can do is recite his mantra of how big Barry’s victory will be.

        It’s his fantasy—let him enjoy it.

        I suggest that you revisit the posts on the You Didn’t Build This thread, on Sept. 21, to see an outline of what the Lefties really believe and what they want for this nation. It is quite interesting, though not much of a surprise. It is quite a chilling picture of the Brave New World of the PROgressive agenda, moving boldly forward into the USSR of the 1950’s, with a national ID card, no sovereign states, and massive Central Committee control over all those things the people just are not qualified to decide for themselves.

  4. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 24, 2012 / 2:11 pm

    The Daily Caller has obtained a complete audio recording of the October 19, 1998 Loyola College forum on community organizing and policymaking during which a future President Barack Obama said he favored the government redistribution of wealth. The audio demonstrates the context of that remark and reveals other far-left positions that Obama held as a state senator.

    Those positions encompass issues as wide-ranging as gun control, universal health care and welfare reform. Obama also said he viewed welfare recipients and “the working poor” as “a majority coalition” that could be mobilized to help advance progressive policies and elect their champions.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/24/full-audio-of-1998-redistribution-speech-obama-saw-welfare-recipients-as-majority-coalition/#ixzz27PbKgiqw

    • Majordomo Pain's avatar Majordomo Pain September 24, 2012 / 5:23 pm

      Dead issue.

  5. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 24, 2012 / 2:16 pm

    In our latest POLITICO-George Washington University Battleground Poll with middle-class families, which comprise about 54 percent of the total American electorate and usually split in their vote behavior between Republicans and Democrats, Romney holds a 14-point advantage (55 percent to 41 percent). Middle-class families are more inclined to believe the country is on the wrong track (34 percent right direction, 62 percent wrong track), are more likely to hold an unfavorable view of Obama (48 percent favorable, 51 percent unfavorable), and hold a more favorable view of Romney (51 percent favorable, 44 percent unfavorable) and Paul Ryan (46 percent favorable, 35 percent unfavorable) than the overall electorate.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81584.html#ixzz27PdHoDAw

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 24, 2012 / 3:53 pm

        I’m not a Stern fan but these interviews are hilarious. They remind me of the CityWalk interviews with Jay Leno, but taken down a few notches on the IQ-meter.

        They do seem to sum up the Obama supporter, though, don’t they?

      • Bob1's avatar Bob1 September 24, 2012 / 8:12 pm

        But these people still get to vote, and their vote will count as much as others with some sense.That is what is “crazy” about this election.

  6. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 24, 2012 / 3:37 pm

    B4V deserves credit. We knew, and commented on this on September 12th.

    For the last two weeks, the corrupt media has refused to crystallize this story into what it is: an Administration attempting to turn the targeted assassination of an American ambassador (who feared for his life) into the story of a spontaneous protest gone bad over a stupid film.

    We now know this was a lie – a lie told by people desperate to downplay and distract from a successful terrorist attack that cost four American lives on the eleventh anniversary of September 11th — and to do so with misinformation and the scapegoating of some hapless Christian filmmaker.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 24, 2012 / 3:51 pm

      But the Lemming Left does not care that it is lied to.

      This is one of the things that baffles me. I can kind of see just going along with the crowd, parroting what you are told without bothering to look into it. I don’t really respect it, but I can understand it.

      After all, this was ME, a couple of decades ago.

      But when I figured out that the Left was lying to me, I got ticked off, and I started investigating and studying, and the more lies I uncovered the more disdain I had for the Left.

      So I just don’t get it, get how or why some people can have lie after lie shoved in their faces, held up in front of them and proved to be purposeful deceptions, and JUST NOT CARE.

      Just look at the Obama ads. As one example, the one where they state that Romney’s plan is to have all employers DENY ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE FOR WOMEN. It is not only patently false, it is so utterly stupid, no one could believe it. But they run it, over and over again, because they know their base simply DOES NOT CARE that they are being lied to.

      It’s not that they don’t realize it. They just don’t think it matters.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 24, 2012 / 4:02 pm

        Goebbels would be proud

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan September 25, 2012 / 6:31 pm

      And yet there was the MSM report I listened to on the radio today – “Obama once again condemns the video which sparked protests in the Muslim world” (perhaps not an exact quote, but that was the gist of what the report said). The video sparked absolutely nothing at all. It is a certainty that this was a long-planned assault. Even Obama and Co have been forced to admit to this. But the MSM got their orders on how to cover it and they haven’t received new orders, yet.

  7. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 24, 2012 / 3:44 pm

    The mark of true character is what someone does when no one is looking:

    The release of Mitt Romney’s 2011 tax returns shows that he freely gave away more than $4 million to charity last year (about 30 percent of his income). In comparison, when Joe Biden was first running for vice president, his tax returns showed that he had given away just $3,690 to charity over the previous ten years (about 0.2 percent of his income). In other words, Romney gave away a thousand times as much to charity in one year as Biden gave in a decade.
    Mitt Romney

    That’s despite the fact that the Bidens earned well over $2 million over that decade. In fact, their income was $320,000 in 2008, thereby putting them comfortably over the $250,000-a-year line that marks the entry point for “millionaires and billionaires” in Obama-speak.

    Last year, Romney freely gave away more than $10,000 a day to charity — an impressive sum by nearly any standard. Of course, it’s not too hard to beat Biden’s tally. Over the span of that decade, or 3,650 days, he gave away $3,690 — an average of $1.01 a day.

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 3:53 pm

      and the MOOCH spent 50 MILLION on lavish vacations with OPM
      talk about the ultimate welfare queen.

    • Green Mountain Boy's avatar Green Mountain Boy September 24, 2012 / 3:56 pm

      Over the span of that decade, or 3,650 days, he gave away $3,690 — an average of $1.01 a day.

      He bought a muffin every day while passing by bozo’s bake sale stand that was next to the book club table at the science fair. Hey, he did his civic duty.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 4:15 pm

        He bought a muffin every day while passing by bozo’s bake sale stand that was next to the book club table at the science fair.

        I thought he got them from the “INDIANS” at the 7-11

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 4:19 pm

        Untold Loss: Media Blackout on Military Disaster on Obama’s Watch
        By Kim Zigfeld

        Under the leadership of Barack H. Obama, though hardly noticed by the pro-Obama mainstream media, the U.S. Marine Corps has suffered its worst air squadron catastrophe since Vietnam, and its prized VMA-211 squadron has taken its worst hit since its defense of Wake Island in World War II.

        Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/untold_loss_media_blackout_on_military_disaster_on_obamas_watch.html#ixzz27Q8FG1LL

      • Green Mountain Boy's avatar Green Mountain Boy September 24, 2012 / 4:40 pm

        Only a billion and half dollars worth of Av-8bs sitting destroyed or will become hangar queens. Means very little in barkys scheme for our national defense.

        Probably would have been sold off for scrap anyway.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 4:51 pm

        I AGREE with this message……….

        Mychal Massie is a respected writer and talk show host in Los Angeles.

        The other evening on my twitter, a person asked me why I didn’t like the Obama’s? Specifically I was asked: “I have to ask, why do you hate the Obama’s? It seems personal, not policy related. You even dissed (disrespect) their Christmas family picture.”

        The truth is I do not like the Obamas, what they represent, their ideology, and I certainly do not like his policies and legislation. I’ve made no secret of my contempt for the Obamas. As I responded to the person who asked me the aforementioned question, I don’t like them because they are committed to the fundamental change of my/our country into what can only be regarded as a Communist state.

        I don’t hate them per definition, but I condemn them because they are the worst kind of racialists, they are elitist Leninists with contempt for traditional America. They display disrespect for the sanctity of the office he holds, and for those who are willing to admit same, Michelle Obama’s raw contempt for white America is transpicuous.

        I don’t like them because they comport themselves as emperor and empress. I expect, no I demand respect, for the Office of President and a love of our country and her citizenry from the leader entrusted with the governance of same. President and Mrs. Reagan displayed an unparalleled love for the country and her people. The Reagan’s made Americans feel good about themselves and about what we could accomplish. His arrogance by appointing 32 leftist czars and constantly bypassing congress is impeachable. Eric Holder is probably the MOST incompetent and arrogant DOJ head to ever hold the job. Could you envision President Reagan instructing his Justice Department to act like jack-booted thugs?

        Presidents are politicians and all politicians are known and pretty much expected to manipulate the truth, if not outright lie, but even using that low standard, the Obama’s have taken lies, dishonesty, deceit, mendacity, subterfuge and obfuscation to new depths. They are verbally abusive to the citizenry, and they display an animus for civility.

        I do not like them, because they both display bigotry overtly, as in the case of Harvard Professor Louis Gates, when he accused the Cambridge Police of acting stupidly, and her code speak pursuant to now being able to be proud of America. I view that statement and that mindset as an insult to those who died to provide a country where a Kenyan, his illegal alien relatives, and his alleged progeny, could come and not only live freely, but rise to the highest, most powerful, position in the world. Michelle Obama is free to hate and disparage whites because Americans of every description paid with their blood to ensure her right to do same.

        I have a saying, that “the only reason a person hides things, is because they have something to hide.” No president in history has spent over a million dollars to keep his records and his past sealed.

        And what the two of them have shared has been proved to be lies. He lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother’s death and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father’s military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address. He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today. He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel. His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement – as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare

        I don’t like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.

        Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.

        It is my intention to do all within my ability to ensure their reign is one term. I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.

        As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, “Nero In The White House” – “Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood… Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement – while America’s people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.”

    • dennis's avatar dennis September 25, 2012 / 1:05 am

      “That’s despite the fact that the Bidens earned well over $2 million over that decade.”

      Well geez, cluster, Romney took in ten times that much last year. Over a decade, what – maybe over a hundred times that much?

      It would be more meaningful to examine how much the Romneys’ gross wealth was increased vs. how much the Bidens’ was, before making such a big deal over Romney’s charitable donations. Romeny could give away three quarters of his money and he’d still be getting richer every month by way more than most Americans are able to save in a lifetime. The Bidens have a modest, even penurious income, by comparison.

      It all begs the question of sacrifice – there’s no sacrifice when one is able to live so well, so far above the mundane concerns for merely making ends meet. So blissfully unaware of what it’s like to have to balance this month’s utilities against the groceries, or gas money against mother’s meds. This may go for the Bidens as well – but to make the Romneys out as somehow morally superior to the Bidens is pure gold-plated claptrap.

      You really should reference Jesus’ teaching about the widow’s mite sometime – it speaks directly to this principle. When people give out of their overwhelming plenty, with much more plenty left over for themselves, it may be better than not giving – but morally speaking it really isn’t very impressive.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 25, 2012 / 8:54 am

        Maybe if, and until the Biden’s, you, or any other self righteous liberal, just match the charitable contribution the Romney’s give, on a percentage basis, – you then might have a point. Until then, you just come across as whiny, failed punk.

        I also haven’t heard any personal stories of Joe Biden taking time out of his life to write a will for a dying 14 year old boy, or cook a Thanksgiving dinner for a family in need.

        So please spare the Biblical lessens. You remind me of Jimmy Bakker, the failed televangelist.

      • James's avatar James September 25, 2012 / 9:35 am

        I thought conservatives like you cluster didn’t care about touchy feeling emotional things with regards to their candidate?

        which is it sport? Its becoming obvious that you’re more and more desperate each and every day….Romney is going to lose. Repeat that about 10 times to yourself and get your day started.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 25, 2012 / 10:21 am

        James,

        You think a lot of weird, ill informed, and diabolical things, so this is just par for course. In fact I would imagine most of your day is consumed with strange thoughts.

  8. Majordomo Pain's avatar Majordomo Pain September 24, 2012 / 5:47 pm

    The Sullivan article was brilliant, especially this:
    “We cannot know what will happen, but there must remain somewhere in the GOP a residual instinct to prefer playing a part in a solution to intensifying the problem for partisan gain—especially with a president they cannot defeat again. But this last gasp of civic responsibility will most likely revive only if the current GOP loses decisively this November. Defeat is the only thing fanatics understand. And defeat is something the remaining Republican moderates can build on. If you are a Republican who wants to see your party return to the center, reelecting Obama is the single most effective thing you can do. Look what Reagan’s success did to the Democrats: it gave us the centrist Bill Clinton. A future centrist Republican president is out there somewhere—but electing Romney-Ryan would strand him or her further out in the wilderness.”

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 24, 2012 / 6:30 pm

      Look what Reagan’s success did to the Democrats: it gave us the centrist Bill Clinton

      What a line of CRAP!! Newt Gingrich and the 1994 Republican Congress gave us a centrist Bill Clinton. If you remember, The Clinton’s (remember the mantra – two for the price of one), tried to push through Hillary Care at all costs, which resulted in the 1994 sweep and a “centrist” Bill Clinton. Andrew Sullivan has sh*t for brains.

  9. mitch's avatar mitch September 24, 2012 / 6:04 pm

    Maybe you should read the entire article before passing your sanctimonious judgement upon it. Who are you trying to convince here Mark? Certainly not yourself, you already possess absolute certainty. Funny how Andrew Sullivan is a conservative. You, on the other hand are an authoritarian.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 24, 2012 / 6:26 pm

      Andrew Sullivan is not a conservative.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 6:35 pm

        AS = bwany fwank……

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 6:41 pm

        camden The last patrol: America’s deadliest city disbands police force..…….NO OPM

        ANOTHER FAILED DONK led hell hole

      • mitch's avatar mitch September 24, 2012 / 7:00 pm

        Umm. He is. You guys aren’t conservative. You’ve co-opted the word, just like the Republican party has been co-opted. If you look at just the past 60 yrs of conservative history in this country, I can’t think of one leader who would be welcomed within your definition from Wm.F Buckley, Irving Kristol and of course, Ronald Reagan. The movement is filled with Randian fanatics who want no regulation and the privatization of everything, social conservatives who want to regulate the sex lives of Americans and the tea party who’s idea of compromise is to agree with them. Yes, Andrew Sullivan is a conservative. He also happens to be sane

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 24, 2012 / 7:11 pm

        Mitch buddy,

        You have no idea what a conservative is, as evidenced by the following:

        The movement is filled with Randian fanatics who want no regulation and the privatization of everything, social conservatives who want to regulate the sex lives of Americans and the tea party who’s idea of compromise is to agree with them.

        You just pull this shit out of your ass and ignore reality, which would be mind boggling except that it is you Mitch, and your ass is where you do most of your thinking. The media has been scolding conservatives on how moderate Romney is, and how they couldn’t possibly support him, yet he is the candidate. Also, JFK once said “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country” which has all been forgotten on democratic circles. JFK also lowered taxes, and would not at all be a democrat today. On the other hand Romney enacted STATE government health care, which is the democrat holy grail.

        You, like Sullivan, have sh*t for brains, so please spare me any more of your ill informed opinions.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 7:28 pm

        Do you think that if JFK were alive today…..that he would be considered a Republican?
        Joe Lieberman with his final remarks stated he believed Kennedy would be a Republican today.

        He was pro-life, Catholic Christian, ANTI COMMUNIST, Military Hero, against involving the country in other countries affairs, stood for strong borders and considered the Western Hemisphere our backyard. Was for reduced spending and did not believe in just entitlements.

        Kennedy would give the purest Republican Principle in his famous speech 50 yrs ago.
        Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, Ask What You Can Do For Your Country!!!!!

      • watsonredux's avatar watsonredux September 24, 2012 / 7:44 pm

        Cluster said, “Andrew Sullivan is not a conservative.”

        I knew that would be the response to Mitch’s post. I assume you believe that Mitt Romney is a conservative. What is it specifically that makes him a conservative and not a poser like Andrew Sullivan?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 24, 2012 / 8:16 pm

        Romney isn’t a true blood conservative, but he is sufficient enough for this election. Especially when stacked against a far left radical like Obama.

      • watsonredux's avatar watsonredux September 24, 2012 / 11:27 pm

        Cluster said, “Romney isn’t a true blood conservative, but he is sufficient enough for this election.”

        I would think a lot of conservatives agree with that. And yet many folks here have claimed that Romney was their first choice all along. Perhaps it was because they thought he had the best chance among the Republican candidates to defeat Obama. But it seems hard to claim that Romney is a “true blood conservative” given the way he actually governed in Massachusetts.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 25, 2012 / 8:46 am

        Romney was my first choice in 2008 and 2012. I like his business experience and his common sense.

        Do you have a point?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 25, 2012 / 11:33 am

        Mr. Bowman,

        I am going to just take a wild guess and say that Romney is much more successful and accomplished than someone like you, who still frequents Massachusetts college campuses.

      • watsonredux's avatar watsonredux September 25, 2012 / 12:29 pm

        Cluster said, “Do you have a point?”

        Yes. I simply asked, What is it specifically that makes Romney a conservative and not a poser like Andrew Sullivan? It’s not a trick question. I don’t think business experience per se makes someone a conservative, though maybe you do. I was just trying to understand the conservative point-of-view with respect to Romney, that is all.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 25, 2012 / 3:59 pm

        Watson,

        The fact that Romney believes that Obama is harming the country and wants to defeat him, vs Sullivan who supports Obama’s reelection is enough of a contrast for me. I am a little surprised you couldn’t figure that one out yourself.

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 6:42 pm

      . You, on the other hand are an authoritarian.

      then YOU had best listen up boy!!!

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 6:56 pm

        then you explain to me why when you gain exclusive political control things always work out like Camden?

        If al Ubamba had sons they would…….

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 7:19 pm

        ANOTHER DONK FRAUD, (BHO)

        Elizabeth Warren Defrauded Asbestos Victims While Practicing Law Without a License

        Laws? They’re for little people. Laws don’t apply to Harvard professors. They apply to Harvard janitors.

        Compassion? Liberals are great at that. Just ask Elizabeth Warren who was paid nearly a quarter of a million dollars to help Travelers Insurance deny asbestos compensation to asbestos victims… and she did it while practicing law without a license. And wearing a fake Cherokee headdress.

        http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/elizabeth-warren-defrauded-asbestos-victims-while-practicing-law-without-a-license/

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 24, 2012 / 7:34 pm

        In reality, John F. Kennedy and the 1960 Democratic platform on the basic issues: economy, defenses, foreign policy, social issues and Social Security was well to the right of the Republicans today. Young people there weren’t a Medicare and Medicaid program during the Kennedy presidency. The Democratic Party platform was much more conservative in 1960 than the Republican Party of Romney and Ryan is today. John F Kennedy and the democrats of 1960 would have probably had most democrats that they ran across today arrested as communists. Yes, that is how far left the Democratic Party is today.

        The Democratic Party is so far to the left it is analogous of the secular communists of Lenin, and later Stalin of the 1910’s to the 1940’s. In fact, to be more accurate it is important to understand how the secular religion of the Democratic Party treats other religions with such intolerance today. Freedom of Religion was something Americans took for granted. The Obama Administration created laws against the Catholic Church and other religions in the United States. This demonstrates that the federal government’s power trumps the people’s religious freedom. The previous religious issues are in the courts today. However, that does not change the Federal law, which made the United States federal government and the Democratic Party—the party in goose step,
        towards Fascism.

        http://www.nolanchart.com/article9810-the-1960-dem-convention-of-jfk-was-more-conservative-than-tampa-gop.html

  10. Green Mountain Boy's avatar Green Mountain Boy September 25, 2012 / 8:35 am

    There is more outrage in this country over the fact that the NFL has replacement referees blowing calls than there is over the fact that one of our Ambassadors was murdered in cold blood by savages.

    Other than blaming BOOOOSSSHHHH!!! I got no explanation for this. Maybe Mitt was hiding something in his taxes that caused the mess Libya?

    Still, a very strange world we live in.

    • Diane Valencen, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H [Journ.], ArF J., M.F.'s avatar Diane Valencen, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H [Journ.], ArF J., M.F. September 25, 2012 / 10:43 am

      And yet a Catholic blog published, with no factual basis that Ambassador Stevens had been raped before he died. That lie was parroted here by at least two commenters. Fancy that?

      • Green Mountain Boy's avatar Green Mountain Boy September 25, 2012 / 11:24 am

        You work, in your own imagination at least, for the father of all lies.

        Fancy that?

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 12:33 pm

        GMB you don’t seem to be very well informed of the history of Hell

      • tiredoflibbs's avatar tiredoflibbs September 25, 2012 / 1:10 pm

        GMBH, you have to remember. It is THEIR Hell (the land of make believe) they refer to and not the “Hell”.

  11. bagni's avatar bagni September 25, 2012 / 11:00 am

    ama
    and you really really want mitt to win……you’re a great cheerleader! please keep it up!!!!

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 2:20 pm

      nanu nanu dork

      and you really really want mitt to win

      the alternative?
      Hope you like islam and sharia, …..
      PS
      they behead little boys in cardboard space ships and the short bus.

  12. J. R. Babcock's avatar J. R. Babcock September 25, 2012 / 12:54 pm

    Well, James may actually be right that Obama is going to win. With support like this, he’s going to be tough to beat.

    • tiredoflibbs's avatar tiredoflibbs September 25, 2012 / 2:15 pm

      No Forker, obAMATEUR asking newlyweds for their cash and put his campaign on their registry THAT IS DESPERATE!

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 2:17 pm

      Panic?

      is that like the new and improved talking point for ******FEAR******
      LOL Riiiiight pee wee

      • Majordomo Pain's avatar Majordomo Pain September 25, 2012 / 2:32 pm

        Fear is what motivates the Right today. Fear of a second Obama term would deny them their operative goal of seeking to deny Obama a second term. With that de facto assertion off the table they would be forced to do their job and deal with the issues at hand? Obama would be hindered only by his potential overreach before the 2014 elections and he is too smart a Human Being to do that.

  13. tiredoflibbs's avatar tiredoflibbs September 25, 2012 / 1:54 pm

    Open thread?

    ObAMATEUR’s rules of engagement in Afghanistan have accounted for 70% of the total casualties there. Notice that this is not a daily update as it was while Bush was President. His rules deny our soldiers their weapons while on base, but the Afghan soldiers and police are allowed to be armed! Some of these go on to shoot our troops!

    Where is the outrage on the left? At every IED in Iraq, we were pummeled with outrage from the left with cries of no plan or exit strategy. There are no cries from the left now, because of who is in the White House and his failures during an election year.

    Pathetic.

      • tiredoflibbs's avatar tiredoflibbs September 25, 2012 / 2:23 pm

        Forker, you article refutes nothing. Typical non-response.

      • Majordomo Pain's avatar Majordomo Pain September 25, 2012 / 2:30 pm

        How so?

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 3:42 pm

        Ummmmmm ………moreDumb painintheazz

        NOT my words fool…..


        Ryan says under Obama, Middle East looks like ‘1979 Tehran’

        By Daniel Strauss – 09/24/12 04:50 PM ET

        Paul Ryan delivered a blistering speech against President Obama on foreign policy Monday, saying because of the president’s policies, the Middle East looks like Tehran during the mob protests on the U.S. embassy in 1979.

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 2:06 pm

      Drudge on the POS muslim usurper………

      President at U.N. doesn’t mention terrorism by radical Islamists…

      THE FUTURE MUST NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO SLANDER THE PROPHET OF ISLAM…. by bark HUSSEIN al Ubamba

      … Attack on U.S. is attack on U.N.

      Skips meetings with foreign leaders...

      Adviser: ‘If He Met With One Leader, He Would Have to Meet With 10’… RYAN: Middle East looks like ‘1979 Tehran’…

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 2:07 pm

        REPEAT by bHo

        .

        ‘THE FUTURE MUST NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO SLANDER THE PROPHET OF ISLAM’…

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 2:08 pm

        How Fn stupid is this cretin??

        BLAMES ‘THE FILM’ FOR MIDEAST VIOLENCE

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 2:11 pm

        coming SOON to the USA brought to you by barry HUSSEIN al Ubama,and hitlery mate of the rapist.

        Muslim-led nations seek global ban on insults of Muhammad…

      • Majordomo Pain's avatar Majordomo Pain September 25, 2012 / 2:25 pm

        “Middle East looks like ’1979 Tehran’”

        Where are the hostages? Where is the failed rescue attempt? Where is the deposed leader? Where are day counts of how long the hostages have been captive? Keep saying it neocon1 sooner or later you will really believe it.

      • J. R. Babcock's avatar J. R. Babcock September 25, 2012 / 2:25 pm

        THE FUTURE MUST NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO SLANDER THE PROPHET OF ISLAM…. by bark HUSSEIN al Ubamba

        You’d expect Akamanutjob to say something like that. The fact that an American President would say that, not just in public, but to the U.N. General Assembly may have just cost him the election.

      • Majordomo Pain's avatar Majordomo Pain September 25, 2012 / 2:37 pm

        “THE FUTURE MUST NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO SLANDER THE PROPHET OF ISLAM”

        Pandering and this exposes the right wing fear yet again. The full text reads thusly:”The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied. Let us condemn incitement against Sufi Muslims, and Shiite pilgrims. It is time to heed the words of Gandhi: “Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.” Together, we must work towards a world where we are strengthened by our differences, and not defined by them. That is what America embodies, and that is the vision we will support.”

      • Majordomo Pain's avatar Majordomo Pain September 25, 2012 / 2:40 pm

        Every conservative blogger has that as their headline right now to try to paint Obama as the hated “other” yet none of them have the full quote. Is there not in any of your traditions something called a sin of omission?

      • Majordomo Pain's avatar Majordomo Pain September 25, 2012 / 2:47 pm

        It is not Our goal to change your minds as they are set like granite with fear as the mortar. We, Ourselves, have only the goal to enlighten; that is Our driving purpose. No amount of insult would drive Us to violent action for We are committed to Peace.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 3:22 pm

        moreDumbo Pain

        . Is there not in any of your traditions something called a sin of omission?

        there are NO “sins” in TRADITION
        , but if you want to know, check hell for the omissions you fools have for al Ubamba, is that a “sin” in “hell” s (kitchen? )
        or are outright lies OK?

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 3:26 pm

        ROTFLMAO;

        right wing *******fear********* yet again.

        you seem to forget part of your audience are USMC,
        you know like the ones who are in trouble for whizzing on the enemy muslims they just KILLED…………….*****FEAR****** Indeed!!! LOL X10,000 🙂 🙂

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 3:34 pm

        give em hell Allen

        THIS man should have been at least VP

        Read the Scathing ‘Angel of Death’ Comment Allen West Says Obama Should Have Delivered

        “The Angel of Death in the form of an American Bald Eagle will visit you and wreak havoc and destruction upon your existence.”

        Aaaaaaaaaaaaamen to that Brother!!!

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 3:37 pm

        further

        My statement to the United Nations would have been, “The future does not belong to those who attack our Embassies and Consulates and kill our Ambassadors. The Angel of Death in the form of an American Bald Eagle will visit you and wreak havoc and destruction upon your existence.” [Emphasis added]

        West added in his analysis of the president’s speech:

        [Obama] continues to offer up apologies instead of defending our hard earned First Amendment right to freedom of speech and expression. There is no message to this silly video trailer, and it is beneath the dignity and esteem of the Office of the President of the United States to mention it at all. When tolerance becomes a one way street it leads to cultural suicide. I shall not be tolerant of the intolerant.

        West also put the United Nations on notice, saying he knows about “UN Resolution 1618 which would make any statement deemed by the Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC) ‘offensive’ to Islam a crime.”

        “NOT ON MY WATCH FELLAS!” he concluded.

        http://www.theblaze.com/stories/read-the-scathing-angel-of-death-comment-allen-west-says-obama-should-have-delivered/

        “NOT ON MY WATCH FELLAS!” he concluded.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 3:51 pm

        EXcuuuuuuuuuuuese ME?
        where the F have YOU been for the last four years???????

        Jewish Dem. Assemblyman Furious With Obama Admin. Over Israel ‘Ally’ Remarks, Treatment of Netanyahu
        Government

        “The people of Israel are very concerned about Barack Obama getting reelected. Barack Obama is an ideologue with a view that is extreme left.”

        Gee ya think??????????????? DUHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

        islamic tanning beds and showers to open soon if al Ubama is re-elected.
        YOU supported, helped, paid donations, and voted for this POS.
        Hope you like the plague carrying fleas you got from laying down with this dog.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 4:12 pm

        Hellllooooooooo Mc Fly? is ANYBODY home?????

        U.S. OKs Iranian President giving anti-Jewish Speech at U.N. on Yom Kippur

        Fox News Channel Live | 9/25/12

        This is particularly ghastly.

        The U.S. has agreed to allow the homicidal maniac who runs Iran to give a virulently anti-Jewish/anti-Israeli speech at the U.N. on Yom Kippur, Judaism’s holiest day.
        According to human rights spokeswoman Anne Bayefsky and Neal Cavuto,

        the U.S. has veto power over the timing of this U.N. speech but Obama is cool with it.

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 4:14 pm

      syrup blaaaach

      count on it……….NOT!!

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 4:36 pm

        The individual who made the largest contribution to a TEA Party back congressional candidate is out on bail for assaulting a black woman and spitting in her face after going on a rant and assaulting other hurricane debris removal workers. The whole thing caught on cell phone video. His name is Josh Jambon and you can google that.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 4:45 pm

        gee NOT “king shabazzzzzzz?”

        are you sure??
        maybe it is his twin bro….

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 4:58 pm

        largest contribution to a TEA Party

        $2500.00
        Bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ……man bites dog story…..LOL

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 25, 2012 / 10:10 pm

        Oh, sarah,you have doubled down on your stupidity. You not only tried to use the actions of one person to smear an entire movement, you lied when you called him a “TEA Party suporter when in another post you merely said he had donated money to a CANDIDATE who was also, coincidentally, backed by a local TEA Party.

        You really are shameless, as well as blindly driven by a uniquely toxic mix of lunacy, delusion, and hate.

  14. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 25, 2012 / 4:11 pm

    The fact that an American President would say that, not just in public, but to the U.N. General Assembly may have just cost him the election.- JR

    I have to agree with you JR, this statement wont set well with the folks in Peoria, that is if it gets out. The media will cover this up so it is up to Romney and the RNC to make sure everyone knows where Obama’s allegiances are.

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 4:23 pm

      al Ubamba at the UN

    • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 4:45 pm

      The real problem Cluster is that it only resonates as negative with people who would have never voted for Obama in the first place. This isn’t the sort of issue that will change minds. If this was the presidential election of 2004 when 9/11 was still fresher in people’s minds maybe and just barely maybe. Now post Osama bin Laden, not so much. More people will be motivated however by the knowledge that a white TEA Party supporter in Louisiana shouted racial epithets at a young black woman who was working to clean up debris after hurricane Isaac and spit in her face when she recorded his childish temper tantrum. When he was finally arrested, he even threatened a female Grand Isle police officer. Now I know this won’t stand simply because it shows real TEA Party bigotry and far right conservative violence. But you will know and you will have seen.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 5:01 pm

        syrup blaaaatch

        DONKS ,wright, faracan, shabazzzzzzz
        NEXT??

        3-1 YOU win.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 25, 2012 / 10:07 pm

        Really? After four years of non violence and the complete absence of racism, one person ALLEGED to be a TEA Party “supporter” ALLEGEDLY does something nasty based on the race of another person, and THIS is supposed to indict the entire TEA Party movement as well as the Conservative Movement?

        That would be even stupider than claiming that all Democrats are sexually deviant social misfits living pretend lives with pretend names and pretend jobs with pretend credentials and working pretend jobs for a pretend newspaper run by demons and hive people from another galaxy, in hell.

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 10:11 pm

        This is exactly what neocon1 has done for nearly four years now. Thank you Amazona for making my point. And it’s not alleged Jambon is a TEA Party the largest supporter and major contributor to Jeff Landry’s campaign in the city of Grand Isle, LA

  15. Green Mountain Boy's avatar Green Mountain Boy September 25, 2012 / 4:55 pm

    One person now equates a whole movement. Free speech is now a reason to murder people.

    Tell me, just what kind of “hell” are wishing to progress to?

    • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:00 pm

      GMB bigotry is something that generally can be hidden for the purpose of becoming materially wealthy. All bigots aren’t out there screaming and slapping people and spitting in their faces. One bigot in the TEA Party is one too many. One rapist in OWS is one too many. It’s all the same. This man isn’t the only bigot in the TEA Party he’s just the only one who outed himself

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 5:03 pm

        one muslim usurper in the WH is one to many
        thousands of racist bigots in the DNC are to many see above

        remove the LOG in your eye before criticizing the SPECK in ours.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 5:05 pm

        “You want freedom you gonna have to kill some crackers”..”gonna have to kill some of their babies”

        mmmmmm mmmmmmmm mmmmmmmm

      • Green Mountain Boy's avatar Green Mountain Boy September 25, 2012 / 5:06 pm

        “bigotry is something that generally can be hidden for the purpose of becoming materially wealthy.”

        I am sure one Robert Byrd would agree with statement.

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:11 pm

        GMB I would agree about Byrd, but he’s not on your plane anymore and this man and the congressman he supported with a large donation is.

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:12 pm

        Oh neocon1 that’s just like a conservative fall back on Scripture when you have no other argument. How 5th grade is that?

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 5:21 pm

        NOR do I
        but YOU want to stick this ONE jerk on to us……
        I can give you HUNDREDS back at yas within 5 minutes.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 25, 2012 / 10:02 pm

        Oh sarah that’s just like a Liberal fall back on misstating a political philosophy when you have no other argument. How 5th grade is that

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 10:07 pm

        So there are no bigots on the boards of major companies. Or running companies or running hedge funds? That’s juvenile thinking.

  16. Green Mountain Boy's avatar Green Mountain Boy September 25, 2012 / 5:11 pm

    You still didn’t answer the question. What kind of “hell” do you wish to progress to. One where there is no individual free will?

    Michael defeated your kind once. I am sure he is up to doing the job again if need be.

    • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:14 pm

      I’m sorry you are simply delusional.

      • GMB your delisional Dictator's avatar GMB your delisional Dictator September 25, 2012 / 5:18 pm

        Humor me. Describe the perfect “hell” you wish to achieve on earth.

        This should be interesting but I do not think you are up to the task.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 5:19 pm

        a $2500.00 donation for one congressman?

        gee how much did faracan give to OBL? I mean BHO

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:20 pm

        You’ve got it backwards. Al I want for your world is peace and prosperity, earned by opportunity. There’s plenty to go around. But since you live in a land of excessyou can sleep at night based on your own comfort all the while knowing thousands in your ownb country go to bed hungry or outside. I want those conditions of poverty gone and then your world will be more like mine.

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:29 pm

        Neocon1 the only farrakhan I can find at the FEC gace most of his money to the NRCC, over $3000 in 2004.

      • J. R. Babcock's avatar J. R. Babcock September 25, 2012 / 7:19 pm

        Sarah,

        I’m curious too. Just exactly what’s it like in hell? Do you have any lawyers there?

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 25, 2012 / 10:00 pm

        “….what’s it like in hell? Do you have any lawyers there?”

        LOL X 50

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 10:04 pm

        I neglected to answer that. The Boss, Cavalor is a noted lawyer and there are quite a few here at the DBDP.

  17. GMB your delusional Dictator's avatar GMB your delusional Dictator September 25, 2012 / 5:21 pm

    A damning indictment of the whole donkyrat party is it not? One imperial grand dragon in the party is way to much right? How many klansfolk are still working for the donkrats?

    I demand an investigation.

    😛

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 5:24 pm

      the WHOLE south in the 50’s and 60’s………I REMEMBER first hand

      do da name George Wallace ring a familiar mote??

    • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:25 pm

      It was then and it is now. Bigotry is counterporductive to a party which is committed to a multicultural future

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:40 pm

        And this is the problem with the Right neocon1. How many members of the Democratic Party do you see with statements that are based in white supremacist notions of that age today? Feel free to live in the past, you’ve lived most of your life and you’ve earned the right to be stubborn if you wish.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 5:48 pm

        How many members of the Democratic Party do you see with statements that are based in white supremacist notions of that age today?

        NONE, they have been replaced by black racists, but BOTH are cut from the same cloth of evil.

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:49 pm

        How are black democrats racist? Please enlighten me.

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 9:15 pm

        Cluster you really think that’s racist?

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 25, 2012 / 9:59 pm

        sarah, your entire “point” depends on redefining racism as only white against colored skin bigotry. Once you admit that racism is the assignment of characteristics based on race, and that it often involves hatred based on race, you have to admit that the Democrat Party is seething with racism.

        This ranges from the “soft” racism of Affirmative Action to the incitement of violence against people of white skin to actual violence against whites because they are white. It includes the black racism toward Latinos and Asians.

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 10:03 pm

        And I don’t dispute this at all. I would prefer that both sides put down bigotry signs and take up solution signs. But it appears at least for now that bigotry is more polarizing and assumed to be “energizing.”

  18. GMB's avatar GMB September 25, 2012 / 5:48 pm

    The poor will always be with you. I suggest getting of your butt complaining on B4V and taking some extra food out of you pantry and feeding someone who is hungry. I suggest taking some of your extra clothing out of your closet and giving them to someone who needs to be clothed. I suggest you take the pillows off your couch and allowing someone who is homeless to sleep on it at night.

    But that what is governments are for right? Heaven forbid you ever do something meaningful that might make a difference in someones life. That is why governments exist right? To take from those who have to give to those that don’t?

    People like you get to decide who gets what and who doesn’t? Each according to their need and each according to their ability?

    Looks like I better start work on my fortress of doom again.

    • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 5:51 pm

      GMB I’ve done all those things and continue to do so.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 6:09 pm

        It’s a CO-INKIDINKS i tells ya

        Strange HOW three black women working for FEMA show up on the adjoining property of this man and DIRECT payloaders of trash to be piled on HIS property.

        I SMELL a SETUP of DNC proportions.

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 6:19 pm
      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 6:11 pm

        sb

        BFD so have we all.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 6:30 pm

        sBlaaaach

        Recently the blogger Rod Dreher linked to Kirk’s essay,

        NEXT??

      • GMB's avatar GMB September 25, 2012 / 6:31 pm

        Sure you do and you only “work” in hell?

        I would laugh at you if you were not so pathetic.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 6:35 pm

        Quran Teacher Rapes 4 Year Old Boy, Claims “Devil Played With My Head”

        you are right, his name is mooHaMAD

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 6:36 pm

        GMB

        Sure you do and you only “work” in hell? ( in the EXECUTIVE suites NO less ….LOL)

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 6:46 pm

        Whatttttt?

        They Are Not Worth the Color’: CBC Chairman‘s Fiery Rant Against Blacks Who Don’t Vote

        | Jonathon M. Seidl
        If you are black and you don’t vote, you do not deserve the color of your skin. That’s at least how Congressional Black Caucus head Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO) put it during a recent speech on voting rights.

        nah NO racists here…VOTE only on the color of your skin
        TYPICAL DONK////

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 7:01 pm

        coning to a city near you….make sure to vote for imam al Ubamba

        Senator Avella “offended” at Muslim Parade NYC

      • casper's avatar casper September 25, 2012 / 7:28 pm

        Sarah,
        Thanks for the link to Brooks.

        GMB,
        I’ve also done all the things you suggested, although the homeless that have slept in our house have done so on a bed rather than a couch.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 7:37 pm

        catspuke

        why didnt you give them your house and all it’s belongings. and your paycheck for the next ten years…….show some compassion and leadership man

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 10:02 pm

        dead forker
        YOU LIE….again

        Russian feminist punks Pussy Riot got two years in the slammer for invading the Moscow cathedral and desecrating it by their
        obnoxious performance.

        BIG DIFFERENCE

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 10:06 pm

        There are those that would call what they did free speech. I’m one of them.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 10:05 pm

        dead forker

        Really? I’m amazed I didn’t pass out from the stench of your hypocrisy.

        so am I ONE HOMOSEXUAL priest against this…….

        http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 10:08 pm

        Sarah you have repeatedly been warned about your racist comments and the comparison of bigotry to the Holocaust has resulted in your posts from this moment on being removed from the blog. You are not allowed to post here any more. //Moderator

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 10:09 pm

        I don’t believe in either religious tradition but i would defend your right to worship as a catholic or a Muslim or not to worship at all as a basic Human Right that is the difference between you and I.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 10:32 pm

        not really

        I just dont give that right to a satanic cult of murderous cutthroats.
        who daily slaughter hundreds around the globe and call for the destruction of an entire indigenous people.

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 10:47 pm

        try it in a mosque some time and let me know how dat works for ya.
        or even in a US court of law during a trial……..yupper

        B&E on PRIVATE PROPERTY is not free speech.
        if they did it outside on public property im with ya.

  19. mitch's avatar mitch September 25, 2012 / 7:28 pm

    Cluster, here is you man Morris.
    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/09/dick-morris-award-nominee.html
    And since you value morality so highly, this might be of interest as well.

    On August 29, 1996, Morris resigned from the Clinton campaign after tabloid reports stated that he had been involved with a female prostitute, Sherry Rowlands, as reported by the Washington Post. A New York tabloid newspaper, the Star, had obtained and published a set of photographs allegedly of Morris and the woman on a Washington, D.C., hotel balcony. News of the impending publication broke during the third day of the 1996 Democratic Convention. The Electronic Telegraph reported unverified claims that in order to impress the woman, S. Rowlands, Morris invited her to listen in on his conversations with President Clinton.[11][12][13] It was also alleged he had an illegitimate child from an affair with a Texas woman.[14]

    Morris resigned on the same day that Bill Clinton spoke and accepted the nomination at the Democratic National Convention. In his resignation statement, he said that “while I served I sought to avoid the limelight because I did not want to become the message. Now, I resign so I will not become the issue.”[15] In his response, President Clinton praised Morris as a “friend”, and thanked him for his years of service. Privately, several of Clinton’s aides were furious that in his resignation statement Morris credited himself with helping the President “come back from being buried in a landslide” and that Morris ended by comparing himself to Robert Kennedy.[16]

    Morris was featured on two consecutive covers of Time magazine. The September 2, 1996 issue, which was released before the prostitute story broke, featured Morris as “The Man Who Has Clinton’s Ear”.[1] The following week, the cover featured Morris and his wife, Eileen McGann, and the headline read “The Morris Mess: After the Fall”.[16]

    He also had (allegedly) a toe-sucking fetish. So his credibility, according to your own standards, is questionable. Plus he’s on Fox.

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 7:39 pm

      yeah but he isnt up the ole CE GAR bill and a 23 yo INTERN yet. IF he was he would be a donk HERO!!

    • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 9:08 pm

      As if that isn’t enough Morris’ political predictions are almost as regularly wrong as Mark Noonan’s and that takes some doing!

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 9:59 pm

        and Kar vells are better?

      • sarahbloch's avatar sarahbloch September 25, 2012 / 10:45 pm

        Sarah you have repeatedly been warned about your racist comments and the comparison of bigotry to the Holocaust has resulted in your posts from this moment on being removed from the blog. You are not allowed to post here any more. //Moderator

      • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 25, 2012 / 10:49 pm

        ha ha ha ha

        for a dead person living in hell, you still have delusions…..

  20. Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah September 26, 2012 / 2:51 am

    Our day is coming. And we can bask in the glow of victory! 🙂

    • neocon1's avatar neocon1 September 26, 2012 / 9:21 am

      Lord willing……

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