Not, I must stress, because impeachment is on the table – that, my friends, is just about impossible. To convict President Obama here in 2013 would require the votes of at least 22 Democrat Senators, and that is presuming that all 45 GOP Senators showed some backbone. Ain’t gonna happen. But, we still need the Special Prosecutor and the Select Committee. Here’s why:
As far as the Special Prosecutor goes, because it is appears that quite a lot of law-breaking has been going on in the Obama Administration and we simply cannot trust Attorney General to enforce the law. Heck, we can’t be certain Holder even knows what a law is (no indications that Obama knows what a law is, either). When people break laws – and especially when they break laws in positions of public trust – then just must be done. It is the only way to ensure that the American people have confidence that their government, on the whole, is honestly run. If rampant criminality is allowed to flourish, then the remaining shreds and tatters of respect for the government will fall – and just about anything can happen, at that point. Tyrants rise upon the ruins of corrupt governments, my friends – a Special Prosecutor empowered to investigate all of the Obama scandals (especially the IRS, Fast and Furious and voter intimidation issues) will go a long way towards convincing people that crime is punished, even among the powerful.
For the Select Committee, the task is to figure out just how Obama and Co have managed to subvert our government institutions and then to propose legislation to fix the problem. Clearly, the President has far too much latitude in carrying out the duties of his office and it is time the Imperial Presidency is reigned in and brought firmly back under the rule of law. Severe criminal penalties must be enacted for even the lowest-level government officials who engage in partisan political activity – this to prevent the bosses from getting the troops to do things, then claiming that it was just low level staffers out of control. But a 25 year jail term on doing things like the IRS agents did and they’ll pause before following orders. These days, Congress writes vague laws and leaves it up to the Judiciary and Executive to sort them out – that must stop. Very specific laws need to be written clearly defining the responsibilities of personnel all up and down the federal chain of command and clearly stating what they may or may not do, especially as regards partisan political activity. A Select Committee would be able to find out who is doing what, why and how it may be stopped.
Of course, we also need to reign in the power of Congress, and the Courts, as well – but right now it is the Executive (greedy, corrupt and incompetent) which is threatening the liberties of the American people and it must be brought to heel.
And don’t forget, if you really want to know what has happened in the past four years, pick up your copy of 150 Reasons Why Barack Obama is the Worst President in History, today.
UPDATE: Seems that the White House, getting at a loss, has decided to go with a “we’re idiots” defense regarding Benghazi. No, you didn’t read that wrong:
“We’re portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots,” said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. “It’s actually closer to us being idiots.”
I still think they are liars, too.
The bizarre thing about this whole picture is that, while Obama is surrounded with “low level” people seemingly willing to do his bidding without even being ordered to, the President, himself, is playing games on his Blackberry, and going to bed early while ambassadors are dying and the IRS is breaking every law in the books. Meanwhile, all the major players: Holder, Hillary, etc. are pulling the Sgt. Shultz routine, and the perception of the LIV is that, not only is Obama not responsible, he’s actually outraged at such actions and trying to get to the bottom of it all. This whole era of American politics belongs in the YCMTSU file.
Special prosecutor?
Im all for Juan Martinez…………… I’d LOVE to watch him rip these ass Klowns apart.
with this regime half of chi cago will be in prison if a SP gets ripping.
What we are witnessing is liberalism in full force. This is what liberalism is – the use and abuse of a central authority to bring about results a ruling elite and a progressive ideology deem “fair”. Never let a crisis go to waste, even if you have to manufacture that crisis.
Ironically, David Axlerod in a rare moment of clarity spilled the beans on what his ideology brings about when he said that the federal government is too big to control. Every scandal and every negative symptom of this economy is due to the full implementation of liberalism on behalf of Obama and while a special prosecutor may help in exposing the corruption and incompetence to the low information voter, he/she won’t be able to stop the cancerous growth of liberalism in our culture and political body. That will have to be done by conservatives, libertarians, and clear thinking, God fearing, rational human beings who vote and get involved.
Cluster,
And our resident liberals are so invested in arguing issues like evolution, abortion and global warming they don’t even realize that their country is being destroyed right before their eyes. I’d love to be a fly on the wall when the realization finally hits folks like Mitch and Rusty.
It won’t and it’s not.
bmitch
Germany 1934…….some things never change. Useful idiots and blind drooling kneepadders will always be with us.
” I’d love to be a fly on the wall when the realization finally hits folks like Mitch and Rusty.”
Hmmm, those two jokers get their Constitutional rights from a monkey. How can realization ever come to people like that? IMHO those kind of folks will go to their graves believing that they just need one more time to get it right.
Remember folks, marx wrote about about the “rights” of the working man man even though he never put in a honest days labor his whole life.
Now it is time to leave for Arkansas again.
Be good ya’all!
Right now, our liberals are doubling down on direction from the White House – there is no scandal. There was no targeting of conservatives by the IRS. There is no controversy about Benghazi. There is just nothing here but fake scandal-mongering by the GOP as they try to destroy Obama rather than work with him for America’s good. We’ll see if this works – but, clearly, this shows the scandals are potentially Administration-destroying and so the attempt is to get out in front of public opinion and make it politically impossible to bring these scandals to their natural conclusion. The MSM – after briefly being upset about the AP scandal – will back Obama to the hilt on this effort.
You are right Mark. After a one day, rare display of actual journalism on behalf of the complicit media, they have fallen back in line and are now questioning the GOP’s efforts and querying whether or not they will hurt themselves by “over reaching”. Time to protect Obama at all costs.
After a one day, rare display of actual journalism on behalf of the complicit media, they have fallen back in line
Which begs the question, is there ANYTHING that the government could do which would make anyone in the sycophantic media sit up and take notice?
Probably not. The current crop of journalists have stained the profession.
Cluster,
In the end, all Carney has to say to the MSMers is “if you attack us, you help the GOP”, and they’ll get in line behind the President.
One thing that is not getting much air play is that the IRS not only targeted these groups, they then sent on what they had learned about the confidential internal workings of these groups to a radical Leftist organization to use against conservatives in the 2012 election.
As for the utter nonsense that the IRS thing is just a tempest in a teapot because a few overworked and dedicated employees merely sought to find a “more efficient” way to process applications, there is no way to yell the full form of “BS!!” loud enough.
Yeah, it’s “more efficient” to demand written promises from members that they will not protest at Planned Parenthood clinics. I guess this was supposed to move the process along more quickly and smoothly. And what about the demand to provide photographs of the people who attended meetings of one of these groups? PHOTOGRAPHS. Yep, analyzing group photos and identifying those in the audience is sure an efficient way to decide if the group is qualified to be a non-profit.
Some are starting to point out that there was a drop off in grass roots TEA Party efforts – and, think about it, which of us having received a threatening letter from the IRS would still have gone forward with our little TEA Party demonstration? I think that Obama was trying to stifle his strongest opponents – and the GOP leadership let it happen because they weren’t too fond of the TEA Party, either.
But here’s the kicker – the TEA Party is rapidly being re-energized by this…and now the IRS dare not harass.
YUPPER!!
Franklin letters as follows:
“We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.”
-In the Continental Congress just before signing
the Declaration of Independence, 1776.
“It is a common observation here (Paris) that our cause is the cause of all mankind, and that we are fighting for their liberty in defending our own.”
-Letter to Samuel Cooper, 1777
Amazona,
Peggy Noonan, writing at the WSJ, absolutely nails it today.
Counter point.
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/05/16/noonan-just-loses-it/
Point counterpoint
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/05/17/watergate-20-why-irs-scandal-is-far-worse/
Talk about “losing it”. The first paragraph of Mitche’s Andrew Sullivan link:
He’s at least an accessory to running guns to the Mexican drug cartels and from Benghazi to Syrian rebels via Turkey. My guess is he was directly involved in the decision to do both.
I don’t know how anyone with half a brain can take Andrew Sullivan seriously. Clinton’s sex life was personal and had nothing to do with his ability to govern the country, according to the Left at the time. And that mean SOB, Bush, just sat on his hands and let a hurricane destroy an entire city without lifting a finger to try and stop that nasty ol’ hurricane.
Seriously Mitche — OK, sorry, “seriously” and “Mitche” don’t really belong in the same sentence. — Never mind.
“It’s actually closer to us being idiots.”
LOL!! To admit otherwise would mean they belong in Levenworth. Hopefully that’s where a few of them will end up.
The Idiot Defense – Love it!
holder = maybe in a cell with OJ …LOL
You’re right. Lying about the cause of 4 Americans deaths to cover for incompetence and dereliction of duty in an area where the dictator was recently deposed and a there was a known void of leadership, is a minor thing. Especially when a democrat is in office.
$71,225.00 of our tax dollars were spent on 37 useless attempts to repeal Universal Healthcare. The money would have been put to better use securing our foreign embassy’s. Like Benghazi. Oh wait. The Republicans denied the expenditure and concentrated instead on their Punch and Judy show.
Fun fact. 1/2 of the current value of the US Stock market was created between 1817 and 2009. The other half was created during the still in effect presidency of Obama.
“The money would have been put to better use securing our foreign embassy’s. Like Benghazi.”
oh mitchie, you don’t want to go there! Benghazi is the fault of Congress? Really?? obAMATEUR wastes $71,225.00 being late for a campaign-like speech in anywhere, any-state USA to avoid confrontations with the press or avoid doing his job as executive.
What about the MILLIONS wasted in France by obAMATEUR and Biden not too long ago?
Mitchie, you are such a mindless tool.
Pathetic.
“The other half was created during the still in effect presidency of Obama.”
So, when this quantitative easing catches up and the interest rates go to levels one would expect rather than keeping them artificially low, when the crash happens will the blame be put on obAMATEUR or will it be the person sitting in the chair at the time? If it is a non-Democrat, you mindless drones will gladly blame him. If it is a Democrat in office, then I guess the old reliable “it’s Bush’s fault” will be regurgitated by you lemmings.
Now go price that market in 1913 dollars.
Rusty,
Seriously, and I’m saying this on a completely person to person level – don’t just repeat the White House talking points. For crying out loud, these are massive scandals.
As I alluded to before, the scandals of the bush/cheney regime dwarf our current ones
Bush and Cheney were in office “a long time ago”. Time to move on Rusty. Dwelling on ancient history is not healthy.
Rusty,
Then I assume you were bewildered by Jay Carney’s comment that Benghazi was “a long time ago” too?
Rusty,
What Bush/Cheney scandals are you referring to?
Rusty,
Forget it. Regurgitated White House talking points…
HELP!!!!
Ok tonight is a long time friends Birthday. “Joe” is an old time italian from Pittsburgh (for mind set purpose only) he is a big lib with BSD and a HUGE!!! obama supporter.
The party is at a local constabulary (bar) A couple of our buds rip on Joe about the “one”. and he does not take it well. I am actually pretty soft on him as I do not want to lose our friendship.
The question…… do I wrap up and give to Joe my 150 reasons why obammy is the worst pResident book, or give him the usual gag gift? and TRY to give him a copy later?
PS
I want to hear from ALL on this, Dr. Baldork, and blowzo included…..the forkers and Bmitch can take a pass..
My thoughts – don’t give him the book on his birthday, go with the gag gift. Then wrap the book up and send it to him later with a message from the White House that reads – “sorry to let you down Joe”
cluster…..LOVE IT
forker…….GET LOST
“…he is a big lib with BSD and a HUGE!!! obama supporter.
I do not want to lose our friendship”…neocon
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Really??? You actually value your friendship with Joe, a Liberal, who admires and supports President Obama. I’m guessing your friend is not aware of the extreme hatred you show, especially on this blog, toward the POTUS and leader of the free world, with your continuious cursing and name-calling, (POS) being among your favorite slurs.
I wonder if he would still be your friend, neocon, if he knew that you present one face to him and another (true one?) on B4V.
Maybe neocon isn’t the person you think he is Canadian. Maybe he isn’t the cartoonish construct of a right winger you have fabricated in your head. Have you ever thought of that possibility?
I know the folks at MSNBC have worked hard over the years in creating the image of a stereotypical right wing strawman that you love to bash, but that’s just an imaginary figure Canadian.
Just saying.
I think he needs 57 copies, one for each State our President has visited…
KanucKunobserver…….
, if he knew that you present one face to him and another (true one?) on B4V.
Ooh he knows my real feelings, we have been close to shouting about the POS a few times. I have some other buds that really give “joe” hell about ubama.
We keep it light now because we have a good friendship.
however If he goes off on his BDS, I will counter. We make a game out of it, I even wore an obama T shirt one friday night he almost spit his drink in his wife’s face when I walked in the door.
The Obama regime and their loyal minions are doing their best to sweep these scandals under the rug and MoveOn. Obama said today that his number one focus is jobs for the middle class – what a bunch of bullsh*t. Unemployment is up, more people are out of work, the debt has nearly doubled, and family incomes are down meaning Obama is the most ineffective President of all time for the middle class, so I would ask him to please stop focusing on that issue. He is doing more harm than good.
Obama has created a culture within the government where it is acceptable to be partisan, acceptable to attack opponents, so those in the IRS, and the DOJ were just doing what the culture permitted. To think that Obama is outraged is laughable.
Remember the Plame issue? Special Prosecuter Fitzgerald continued the investigation even after learning that Richard Armitage was the source of the leak. Fitzgerald was tenaciously going after the Bush admin on that issue and that is how all of these current investigations should be conducted. I remember Hillary Clinton once asked of Richard Nixon – “what did the President know, and when did he know it”. If only she and the media had the same curiosity with this President.
“his number one focus is jobs for the middle class ”
Uh, didn’t he say that “I will not rest” until he “fixed” the economy? Strange that this is NOW his focus – next up he will say that all these hearings and inquiries from Representatives and Senators and questions from the press (if they do their job) are distractions and that he has to get back to work for the American people.
Sound familiar?
and that he has to get back to work for the American people………..
FORE!!
Unemployment is down. Unless you question the source of the information. As well as you should since opinion and desire take precedence over facts.
As far as your comments about comparing these issues with Watergate and your opinion that the President was materially involved, please provide factual proof. Not conjecture, or rational but real facts.
Watergate was a criminal enterprise that took place in the Oval Office with the full knowledge and involvement of Richard Millhouse Nixon. Remember Rosemary Woods? Rather than face criminal prosecution, impeachment and possible prison time, when faced with the reality of the crime he organized and perpetrated, he resigned. A tacit admission of guilt. Neither Benghazi nor the IRS issue rise to the level of criminality. If you are looking for a scapegoat in all of this, look no further than SCOTUS decision in regards to Citizens United. I think it was Romney who declared “Corporations are people”. Well, people who try to cheat in their declarations as being tax exempt are subject to scrutiny by the IRS. Next I am sure you will ask if I am defending the IRS. No, I am not. But I am pointing out the glaringly obvious. The right is rabid, the left is rational and the facts do not support what the right wants to be a reality.
Mitch, please. The actions of Obama and his government (and yes, it is his government) are indefensible. We will never know what happened with Fast & Furious because Obama invoked executive privilege early on in the investigation. To me, that is an admission of complicity, and hundreds if not thousands of people have been killed because of that including a US border guard.
Secondly, Obama disappeared, DISAPPEARED, during the Benghazi raid which is in f**king excusable. And Clinton? She didn’t even call Hicks back for two days. Two examples of cowardice. Obama wants to bring those responsible to justice??? What an asshole. He could have brought justice to them that very night.
The IRS? How about the lady in the thick of the storm, Lerner, still keeping her job and now heading up the Obamacare enforcement division for the agency? Like I said, Obama creates the culture, and people like Lerner just follow his lead.
The Obama Presidency has gone from bad to worse, and he will go down as the most useless President ever. How many private CEO’s would still be employed if they had the same performance levels of Obama? Or came up with as many excuses? Obama never takes the blame for everything, and people like you are quick to defend him. Why?
Cluster
– what a bunch of bullsh*t. Unemployment is up, more people are out of work, the debt has nearly doubled, and family incomes are down meaning Obama is the most ineffective President of all time for the middle class, so I would ask him to please stop focusing on that issue. He is doing more harm than good.
funny how there is NO mention by the lamestream press of the outrageous price of gas.
Here’s how one of Obama’s big supporters does business:
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1261720.ece
Cluster:
How many Presidents have declared Executive Privelage? What makes it OK if a Republican uses that privelage of office but not Obama? Probably the same trigger of outrage when a Marine holds an umbrella. (I can post a photo of Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 having an umbrella held by a Marine.) The overarching point is that no matter what, there is a small group of people in this country who despise the President and despise Americans. 150 reasons why. In book form! If Omama cured cancer you all would howl that he is putting oncologists out of work. The obstruction in congress is suicide for Republicans so I say, keep it up. There’s a magic pony somewhere!
As far as Neo and cartoons, Canadian Observer is spot on correct. Perhaps if he changed his behavior and quit fulfilling the reputation he has created, other conservatives wouldn’t be stereotyped as being a dweller of the stoneage. He is as much a cartoon as the character Christopher Loyd played in Roger Rabbitt. Where is the Acetone whenyou need it?
there is a small group of people in this country who despise the President and despise Americans
Mitche,
The number of people who both despise Obama AND America (that’s what you meant, right — not “Americans”?) is, indeed, probably relatively small. The number of people who despise Obama but LOVE America is large and growing. His primary legacy will be that of being the most divisive president of at least the last century, pitting race against race, gender against gender and class against class, a strategy that, quite frankly, I don’t believe is going to end well.
Well JR, I am not really sure what I meant. There have been numerous posts on this blog wherein the intelligence of the American people is disparaged, wherein entire cities and states are put down and of course, someone like me is made fun of everytime I post. (Funny how when I do the same my comments are deleted.)
What do you think I meant?
bmitch
, but I can think of one President who invaded a country based on; shall I say “not truthful” information in which ~4000 Americans died.
which is a LIE!! which you do well. A UNITED NATIONS COALITION invaded Iraq because of continued violations of it’s mandates. Close to 50 MILLION people were liberated.
How many innercity murders took place during the same time frame? It was actually safer to Be a Marine in Iraq than in say down town detroit, chi cago,and DC
PS
amnesia there vacuum boy?? or are you drunk?
What do you think I meant?
I already stated I thought you meant “America” not “Americans”. Americans hating Americans makes no sense, but then many of your posts make no sense. Your posts are so disjointed, factually challenged and illogical that one never quite knows what you really mean.
Oh, and most presidents wait until they’re accused of something before invoking executive privilege.
How many Presidents have declared Executive Privelage? What makes it OK if a Republican uses that privelage of office but not Obama – Mitch
When people die, including a US border guard – that makes it not ok.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/ten-presidents-who-invoked-executive-privilege-in-recent-history-20120620
And not to beat a dead horse, but I can think of one President who invaded a country based on; shall I say “not truthful” information in which ~4000 Americans died.
So what is worse? Assuming that is what we are comparing. Personally, I am an optimist.
That “not truthful” information was that of the Clinton appointed CIA chief and was universally shared by a lot of other countries. Just saying.
bmitch
see above post
OOPS……
Number of Chicago Murders in 2008 Tops U.S. Soldier Deaths in Iraq, But Media’s Not Reporting It
in the community agitators home town none the less….ONE MORE FAILURE by barry n da boyz
bmitch
(I can post a photo of Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 having an umbrella held by a Marine.)
DO IT!!
http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2013/05/18/wingnuts-contrive-another-silly-obama-scandal-umbrella-gate/comment-page-1/
NO pics of MARINES holding umbrellas you FAIL again little man
Excuse me. I should have said Military. But no matter, I made my point. No go off an play!
NO you said MARINES you Fn MORON…..!!!
you are caught in ANOTHER LIE you jerk!!
It wasn’t a lie. It was a mistake and I admitted it. Can’t handle it? Bet you can’t handle proving the past 2 elections were “stolen” either. Judging from the date, I see you didn’t dump your bicycle or discharge your weapon.
bmitch
bicycle? projection there KID?
Actually, bicycle riding is a very good form of exercise. I assume that with all your machismo you are healthy. And is calling me a kid supposed to to intimidate me? Is that an insult? Why is it that you insult everyone? Do you think you are funny? Or smart? I think you are incredibly insecure. Hence the bragging about the gun.
mitchethe***kid Duhhhhhhh !!
a mere mention of a weekend motorcycle ride and a CCW has sent you into a frothing tailspin. You seem obsessed that anyone would CCW and even dare MENTION it.(no “bragging involved KID) …..sorry KID but many of us MEN do ride and CCW.
we leave the KID’s home on the porch with the cats.