What Sizes do #MAGA Hats Come In Open Thread

Kurt Schlichter – the left hates you, and wants you dead:

The Left won’t say it out loud – at least not yet – but make no mistake. If violence is what it takes for the Left to prevail, then violence we will have. You saw it, and you were meant to. Berkeley was a message about the price of dissent where leftist hold sway. And they seek to hold sway everywhere.

Read the whole thing.

Denying free speech is a crime:

They told me if Donald Trump were elected, voices of dissent would be shut down by fascist mobs. And they were right!…

…Whether or not Berkeley loses its federal funding over the Milo riots (and it won’t), I think it’s time for action to address this double standard. First, state and local law enforcement agencies need to target violent rioters who seek to silence speakers. It is a felony under federal civil rights law to conspire to deprive citizens of their constitutional rights, among which is free speech. In addition, many states have laws (generally called Klan laws) that punish people who engage in mob violence or intimidation while masked. These should be applied as well.

Read the whole thing.

Anti-Trump rioters blocked an ambulance with a critically ill patient.

Middle school student beaten for wearing a Trump hat.

Gay Progressives protest against Trump, who at the end of the day is working to protect them.

Lady Gaga actually put on a decent half-time show – so, now she’s a Nazi.

Robert Stacy McCain has some advice for parents of college-bound children:

So if you’re a middle-class parent and your kid is a small-town high achiever — Taylor Wallace was a football star and valedictorian in high school — you might want to think twice before sending them to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Duke, Oberlin, etc. Any student with the grades to get into an Ivy League school can go to a state university and excel. He’ll find a lot more middle-class kids he can fit in with, and a lot fewer snotty prep school kids than he’d rub elbows with at Columbia. After your son’s successful career at State U., maybe he’ll become a millionaire, and then he can send your grandchildren to Cornell in appropriate style, but otherwise, just leave the elite schools for the rich kids, most of whom are degenerate atheist swine.

Tough, but fair.

Ten Democrat Senators who will vote on Gorsuch are up for re-election in Trump or near-Trump States in 2018. #Winning.

The Guardian has a well-reasoned article about Trump. The End Times are clearly upon us.

24 thoughts on “What Sizes do #MAGA Hats Come In Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook February 7, 2017 / 10:34 am

    From Schlichter’s article:

    So the only outcome is that one side wins and the other loses. There’s no truce to be had, no possibility of a tie. And the frightening thing is that the Left is so foolish, so stuck in its bubble that it has no understanding that it can only push so far before the people with all the guns and all the training push back. That’s the problem with kids who were raised on participation trophies and who never got into a fistfight – they don’t consider the possibility that they will lose, and lose hard.

    I’m proud of the vast majority of Conservatives who have kept their powder dry up until now. I would guess that many on the Left view our patience and tolerance as weakness. But, as Schlichter notes, sooner or later they’ll cross a line. Every Conservative has a mental image of just where that line is. I know a few local hunters who are just itching for that time to come, but there are an awful lot of people like me who dread ever having to kill another American. But make no mistake, and this is not a threat but a promise, if you attempt to use violence to destroy the greatest experiment in self-governance the world has ever seen, the hell that will rain down on you will be like nothing you could ever have imagined. I don’t believe there will be very many prisoners taken. And if guns scare you, you’d better find a good hiding place.

    • M. Noonan February 7, 2017 / 10:52 am

      The left is talking the language of civil war and I honestly don’t think they realize it. Of course, a large reason for this is that (a) even the left has never pushed it quite this far in the United States and (b) as far as the left has pushed it, no one has seriously pushed back. Yet.

      But the left pushing it this far may be inherent in the left – after all, if you are convinced that you are completely right and the other side is completely wrong, what limit would you place on your actions? To me, the key moment here came in 2003 when the Democrats, in need of muscle for their anti-Bush program, invited the kook left firmly into the mainstream of the Democrat party. When Michael Moore was invited by Jimmy Carter to attend the 2004 Democrat convention, the writing was on the wall. This was a former President of the United States inviting a man who asserted that the then-current President had deliberately lied to get us into war so that his oil company cronies could make profits. Others place the moment of dissolution when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Bush over Florida and that is a strong argument…but even then, the full-on kooks were not mainstream in the Democrat party. In 2003, they became mainstream. Obama’s Narrative managed to paper over that aspect of the Democrats but when you actually look at Obama, he is firmly on the kook side of the Democrat party…just not as loud and vulgar. Applied Kookism starting in 2009 is what led to the continual victories of the GOP starting in 2010…victories mostly undeserved because the GOP leadership didn’t understand what was happening – many of them still don’t, but I perceive that Rubi0, Ryan and even McConnell are now getting fully alert to what is happening.

      What happens? Well, if Trump (and, especially, Sessions) applies the laws as written, then there will be a sea-change. As Glenn Reynolds points out in his linked article, there are laws which can be brought to bear on the radical left elements when they riot…if those laws are applied, almost all the people doing that will run away screaming. Bored kids are willing to riot as long as it’s a lark with no risk…put a risk on it and they’ll drift away and pretend they never had anything to do with it. The hard core of lunatics will then be isolated and easy to control.

      • Retired Spook February 7, 2017 / 11:34 am

        A Justice Department that applies the law evenly and fairly would certainly be preferable, IMO, to shooting them all.

      • Retired Spook February 8, 2017 / 1:00 pm

        In spite of everything I said above, my sincere hope is that the Leftist elements that are perpetuating the violent riots across the country just keep on doing it, and that those of us in the Liberty movement just sit back and let them. I can’t think of any action by the Left that would be more certain to guarantee a Trump re-election, and the side benefit is that much of the property damage done by the rioters has been against property owned by the elite Leftists (Starbuck, banks, university dorms and admin buildings, etc.). I just can’t visualize that this kind of behavior is going to win very many people over to their side. Now if the rioters expand their violence to serious personal injury up to and including homicide, then all bets are off, but I get the feeling that it’s going to be difficult for the people and organizations pulling the strings to get very many of their useful idiots to go that far.

        It looks like Sessions will be confirmed as AG this afternoon, and a lot depends on how he runs the Justice Department. I’d personally like to see arrests and prosecutions of the leaders of the riots occur under the radar, so that the public never sees rioters being rounded up by SWAT teams.

      • Amazona February 8, 2017 / 7:45 pm

        I think we can make a lot of progress simply by enforcing the law. As I keep saying, a law without a penalty is the same as no law at all. The Left hasn’t bothered to officially repeal laws, they have just removed penalties, leading to the anarchy we see today.

        Bored kids are willing to riot as long as it’s a lark with no risk…put a risk on it and they’ll drift away and pretend they never had anything to do with it.

        Exactly. Some permanent dye on those expensive North Face jackets and designer hoodies, the kind of permanent stink that won’t wash out of clothes or off skin, will make rioting a little more serious and a lot less appealing.

        So will huge fines and criminal records. Get Mommy and Daddy involved, bailing the kids out of jail or paying their fines so they don’t miss classes and get kicked out of school, and there will be a lot more pressure to stay home during a riot than to go out and throw some rocks.

        Anyone arrested would have his or her cell phone confiscated as evidence, held until the trial. That would sting, especially if the entire account is frozen as part of the evidence and the person has to get not only a new phone but a new account and pay early termination fees on the old one.

        The hard core of lunatics paid professional agitators will then be isolated and easy to control.

        Especially if we find ways to identify them, not just here but internationally. They travel, and this means they either own or rent cars or take trains, planes or buses. With some kind of tagging element sprayed or shot at them in riots, the only way they can freely move around is in cars they own, as trained dogs could pick them out at airports, bus stations, etc. Getting busted at an airport trying to get to the next riot stop, losing that passport (real or fake) and facing felony charges will put a damper on a lot of the roving crews that go from WTO meetings to Summit meetings to inaugurations to the latest police shooting. Pass laws making certain activities serious crimes and a 2 or 3 Strikes and You’re Out element and it won’t take long to thin the ranks of the professionals and make it harder to recruit replacements.

      • Amazona February 8, 2017 / 7:50 pm

        Others place the moment of dissolution when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Bush over Florida and that is a strong argument…

        It is when we passively sit back and let the Left control the narrative, instead of firmly correcting them every time they misrepresent what happened. Even the way you phrased this is uncomfortably close to the Leftist narrative of the Supreme Court ruling to give Bush the election.

      • M. Noonan February 8, 2017 / 11:17 pm

        That’s true – and the attack is inherent in the left, of course. But the Democrats, as an institution, went full-on nuts at least some time between 2000 and 2003…the mask has been ripped off for all to see, but no one on the GOP side really pointed it out. Until Trump came along – personally, I think he saw their vulnerability and exploited it, but even if it was just happenstance, it was effective.

      • Amazona February 9, 2017 / 12:12 pm

        OK, so now Trump has seen this insanity, and referenced it, but we still need to hammer it home. We need someone more articulate to build on Trump Tweets, to expound on the death spiral of classical liberalism, its descent into political Liberalism, and call for a return to the sanity and civility of true liberalism.

        We need someone to point out that the word “liberal” has been hijacked and distorted until, in 2017 America, its meaning is the opposite of the actual philosophy of liberalism. Not all in one long boring dissertation,but in small easily digestible sound bites that can have a cumulative effect.

        Spicer seems smart and ballsy—he could work a couple of sentences into many responses, and get the seeds planted that one can be a liberal without being a Liberal, now that Liberalism is defining itself as violent mob rule and incivility, and intolerance of any thought that is not in lockstep with its own.

      • Amazona February 9, 2017 / 12:22 pm

        We need to remember that the Left never put all its eggs in one basket. They selected many different venues for promoting their philosophy, and each venue had its own approach. That is how the Left has become inextricably intertwined with all the various media—-newspapers, magazines, television, music—–each with its own insidious way of implanting the messages the Left needs to become part of our national consciousness. It has been a gradual process, building small victory upon small victory.

        The Right has never been smart enough to do this, and usually not even smart enough to recognize it when the Left does it. We tend to have tunnel vision, isolating a single approach and then acting as if that approach fails to completely change everything all at once it is a failure.

        The Left has patience. We don’t. The Left has a plan. We don’t. The Left sees the big picture. We don’t. The Left understands how to appeal to people on a visceral level. We don’t. The closest we have come so far is Trump, and we don’t seem to know how to build on that.

        The only weakness the Left has is that its underlying foundation is weak, fatally flawed and doomed to failure. But it takes a long time for a nation to get to the point where that is obvious, and by that time the nation is a mess, millions have died, millions more are in misery, there has often been a civil war, the economy is in tatters, and recovery is not guaranteed. Until that happens, the Left excels at painting rosy pictures of Utopian wonderfulness just around the corner.

      • Amazona February 9, 2017 / 12:40 pm

        Here is an example of a Leftist demonstrator—NOT a “protester” but just a vicious, hate-driven creep—who shows the level of decency and sanity that now defines much of the Left.


        Does menstruation have anything to do with killing babies? Do peaceful demonstrators who oppose the killing of babies protest the fact of monthly cycles? The actions of this horrible creature have absolutely nothing to do with protecting the ability of women to choose to abort their own babies. She merely simmered in the toxic stew of her own hatred and tried to come up with the most disgusting thing she could think of to express it.

        I think she is a symbol of many of the rioters, who are “protesting” nothing, just expressing their own internal misery in ways that are violent and ugly.

      • Retired Spook February 9, 2017 / 12:58 pm

        The Right has never been smart enough to do this, and usually not even smart enough to recognize it when the Left does it.

        I think there’s more to it than that. In fact there are three other dynamics at work that are a more significant part of the equation than the inherent intelligence of Conservatives. I haven’t done extensive research on this, but I’d bet that a substantially higher number of Conservatives are employed in meaningful jobs that they enjoy and even lead more meaningful lives than Liberals, so Conservatives as a group don’t have a lot of time on their hands to actively combat kooky left-wing ideas and policies. Second, the vast majority of Conservatives look at left-wing ideas and say, no one with a modicum of intelligence could buy into that. Again, I don’t think intelligence has a lot to do with it. And third, the Right doesn’t really have a change agenda. If we put as much effort into protecting and defending the Constitution as the Left does destroying it the political landscape would be entirely different. The Left’s single biggest strength, IMO, is a mastery of propaganda, and the reason they have become such masters at it is because without a skillful distortion of the facts, they would have been relegated to the dustbin of history decades ago.

      • Amazona February 9, 2017 / 2:05 pm

        Spook, I’m not talking about the intelligence of individual conservatives. I agree with you that this is probably higher than that of Liberals, in spite of the Liberal worship of college degrees (especially Ivy League colleges).

        No, I am talking about the applied intelligence of those people to a coherent approach to dealing with Leftist propaganda. I think many of the same qualities that make people think for themselves and sort out propaganda, analyze political systems, understand the value of the Constitution, etc. are the same qualities that make us less likely to form a cohesive group with a focused agenda. We tend to be rather fiercely independent, sometimes cantankerously so, and because our conservatism is based on thought we tend to be quite willing to argue ideas, often to the point of focusing on details instead of Big Picture concepts.

        I think of organizing Liberals as akin to herding sheep, while organizing conservatives is more like herding cats.

        This is why I keep harping on the need for a conservative LEADER, someone who can not only articulate our positions and explain them and defend them but someone who has a good grasp of the structures of Leftist propaganda (which has not really changed much over the decades, so understanding how it worked in the 1930s doesn’t mean much of an upgrade to understand how it works in 2017, with the exception of adapting to new means of spreading it) and how to address it.

        If I were president, or the head of the GOP, I would have a small select department dedicated to nothing but these two goals. I would have a spokesperson who is intellectually nimble and charismatic, who can handle the PR aspect of presenting ideas and dealing with Liberal hecklers and quibblers, and a strategy person who not only understands the mechanisms of Leftist propaganda but is creative and intuitive enough to come up with counter measures as Leftist efforts appear.

        Personally, I think Dana Perino could easily fill the first position, while someone like Newt Gingrich could be the coordinator of countermeasures kind of behind the scenes. Not necessarily those people, but people with those basic skill sets. Perino handled the task of being Bush’s press secretary with skill and grace, and that was a tough position to fill, and she has proved herself over and over again as a good communicator, not easily rattled, with the ability to be charming while tough. Also, as she is a woman and pretty and feminine, efforts to bully her would end up making the bully look, well, like a bully.

        Gingrich drives me crazy as a front man, but he has had some excellent ideas and is well grounded in the history of the Left. I see the second position as a combination of historian, analyst, organizer and dispatcher, someone who can spot a propaganda effort a mile off and be ready to send someone or some message or press release out to deal with it, as well as someone with the historical background to supply conservative talking points to the PR person(s).

        You say “The Left’s single biggest strength, IMO, is a mastery of propaganda, and the reason they have become such masters at it is because without a skillful distortion of the facts, they would have been relegated to the dustbin of history decades ago.” And that is what I am getting at. We need a dedicated department, or at least a person, to instantly jump on every such distortion and immediately refute it. Immediately. Strongly, emphatically, and preferably with an underlying message that the distortion was a purposeful effort to mislead, to point out the deceptiveness of the Left and hopefully after time get people a little resentful that the Left is trying to manipulate them.

      • Amazona February 9, 2017 / 4:48 pm

        I don’t expect every single conservative to be an Information Warrior. I do think that any organization which purports to represent conservatives, such as the GOP or even the administration, should be able and willing to represent the ideology of conservatism and act quickly and decisively to correct each and every lie and distortion of the Left.

        BTW, a note to fellow conservatives: I decided to try reagan.com as a new email address, and my experience was AWFUL. It took so long to load the web site, I would routinely play a hand, or even two, of Free Cell while waiting for it to load. Then another hand while waiting to go the email page and get it loaded, then another hand while waiting for an individual email to open. Trying to reply gave me time for another hand or two. Their “help” page is nothing but canned Q&A, their “live chat” put me in touch with someone who basically told me I just don’t know how to open a web site or use email, and when I wrote to ask if they would consider refunding my money even though it is past the 30-day guarantee period and to let me know if they would so I could save my emails, they just canceled it without the courtesy of responding.

        I’m still looking for a secure email server that won’t sell my address, read my emails, and has decent security. Any ideas?

    • jdge1 February 7, 2017 / 1:42 pm


      I agree, the push from the left cannot continue indefinitely without igniting a backlash from the right (though I sense they feel the same way). There are so many things at play, it’s difficult to put them all into a collective perspective. The left have been making major strides in their movement up until Trump was elected President along with Republican majorities in both houses of congress and a soon to be, right slant to the US Supreme Court. They see this and can’t understand why it’s happening or how to stop the reversal of their previous gains so they act out in violence or subversion to our country’s best interest. It’s almost as if they relish the thought of a civil war without having a damn clue as to what that would ultimately bring. And worse yet is, those who would be most likely to be at the front of the violence for the left are nothing more than highly impressionable tools manipulated by the elites pushing their buttons in the background.

      And to be sure, if the pushback happens during Trump’s presidency, the left will do everything they can to make the world believe, this is the war Trump and the right started. That however will not stop it from going into full war mode. And many of the elites / political / judicial / big business entities will NOT be immune from its fallout. At least part of the question is, will enough people on the left see the demise of the situation early enough to pull back from this catastrophic course of action to prevent an all out war? Or, will there be enough mindless fools pushing forward, that those who stand beside them and realize the fallacy of their actions, cannot persuade reason to prevail.

      One of my biggest concerns with a full blown civil war is the fact that it will force situations of parent against child, sibling against sibling, relative against relative, neighbor against neighbor, and so on. Plus, in the movie “13 Hours”, the story of the soldiers involved in the Benghazi attack, it was abundantly clear how “friendly fire” could dominate the soldiers actions, especially where locals who were hired to help protect the compound were involved. That situation of friendly fire will probably pale in comparison when the vast majority fighting will be American citizens fighting on American soil. Maybe that’s the whole idea entities from outside the US are pushing for.

      I don’t know where the line in the sand is for me personally, but I do know there are some situations I will not back down from either. If we take a step back, I think most reasonable people can see many reasons why Trump won the election. The timing needed to be right and the negative things from the past needed to transpire before enough people saw the Trump presidency as a better direction, regardless of his personal demeanor that might not sit well with you. It is my sincere hope that the negative things yet to transpire are enough to at the very least, sprout true civil discourse with those of saner mindsets from both sides of the equation, even when the fringe continues in their destructive mode. My worry is, there are too few people from the left willing to step forward and denounce the violence staged in their name, for fear of becoming a target of those very same people they once stood together with, perhaps like people who live by Islam but don’t condone the violence of the jihads (if there are any) for fear of retaliation.

      Until Trump won the presidency and Republicans won congress majorities, I did not have as much hope of a resolution that would eventually stem the use of arms against fellow Americans. It would be foolish to think that everything will be sunshine and roses from here on out. But then, I’m rarely privy to the hand of God until he shows the good that can follow evil.

      • Amazona February 8, 2017 / 7:31 pm

        One of my biggest concerns with a full blown civil war is the fact that it will force situations of parent against child, sibling against sibling, relative against relative, neighbor against neighbor, and so on.

        But I don’t think siblings will be shooting each other, or parents attacking their own children, not over ideology. Maybe if the ideology is equally understood on both sides and generates equal allegiance, but the fact is, most who squeal in favor of Leftist agendas are clueless when it comes to Leftist ideology. They might get spitting mad but it takes a lot more than that to push someone into picking up arms.

        We on the Right bear a lot of responsibility for how bad things have gotten, because we have been sucked into the Leftist trap of arguing and defending issues instead of ideology. We have let the very word “ideology” become toxic as the Left sneers it and uses it as a pejorative, leading their clueless minions to just accept the concept that ideology is a bad thing. We on the Right tend to have a pretty clear idea of what the Right is and why we believe what we believe, but I have only met a couple of Liberals who have the slightest idea that they are even supporting a political system, much less what it is. They think they are “for” Gay Marriage or Equality or Fairness, with no concept of the reality of the system hiding behind these feel-good words.

    • Amazona February 8, 2017 / 7:22 pm

      Yet conservatives will continue to subsidize Leftist propaganda, proving yet again that bread and circuses, or at least circuses, will distract people enough to make them hand puppets.

      The Left knows that people will watch the Super Bowl, so they can choose anyone they want to deliver any message they want during halftime. They know people will be glued to their TV sets so they can approve “commercials” that don’t even try to sell a product but just propagandize Leftist cant. Maybe Budweiser figures that since most Hispanics (around here, anyway) prefer Coors, a little suck-up might help them out.

      It is always a little disturbing to watch a demographic pay the freight for its opposition to attack it, but football fans will happily support an NFL that doesn’t speak up against political protests at games, such as the embarrassing “Hand Up Don’t Shoot” (Otherwise known as the See How Stupid I Am) antics of its players, and the refusal to stand for the national anthem, So why shouldn’t the NFL be pretty comfortable using the Super Bowl as a platform for Leftist propaganda? They know their audience, and they know that the bread and circuses tactic always works. So they treat their fans like trained monkeys too dumb to know when they are being used or too happy with the treats they get tossed, and the rest of us sit back and watch it work.

      BTW, the Coors family not only makes a much better beer than Bud, they are staunch conservatives.

  2. Amazona February 9, 2017 / 4:05 pm

    Here’s another addition to the list of Leftist hypocrisy examples. Al Franken objects to school vouchers,


    He attended an expensive private school, and his child (or children) attended an expensive private school. Yet he is trying to block programs that allow poorer children to attend schools like these.

    Personally, I am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that any woman ever had sex with Al Franken……………

  3. Retired Spook February 10, 2017 / 2:20 pm

    I don’t frequent the kook, conspiracy site, InfoWars, so I’ve never heard of this guy.

    Pretty funny — sort of a conservative John Oliver. I hope he’s right about kids born after 2000 as that’s my youngest grandsons generation.

    • Amazona February 10, 2017 / 3:16 pm

      I saw another video by this guy, possibly through another Oath Keepers link, and I think he is great. He gets such pleasure out of poking at the smug self-righteous Leftist posturing, and they just can’t handle it.

      He does make a good point. And part of this reminds me of something I read many years ago—that certain attitudes leapfrog generations. That is, Johnny rebels against his parents, but because they rebelled against their parents he ends up being more like his grandparents. (Hope for you there, Spook?)

      I love having someone like this come right out and say what we say to each other here—that the Left is humorless, sour and joyless.

  4. Retired Spook February 10, 2017 / 2:28 pm

    More good news.

    A grand jury has indicted more than 100 Inauguration Day protesters on rioting charges in Washington, D.C. In total, 209 people have now been indicted.

    The indictment, handed up D.C. Superior Court on Wednesday, charged 146 additional protesters with felony rioting — meaning they face a fine of up to $25,000 and a maximum of 10 years in prison.

    Let’s hope this is one of those rare instances where the wheels of justice move swiftly and surely.

    • Amazona February 10, 2017 / 3:01 pm

      Now if we can just discard the Leftist narrative of “protesters”, which tries to convey a sense of legitimacy, and just call them rioters, or even demonstrators, we can start to erode the narrative as well as the actions themselves.

  5. simoneee9 February 10, 2017 / 9:33 pm

    Smoke, fire and all that.

    So did Flynn discuss sanctions with the Russian ambassador? And did he mislead the Vice President about the discussions?

    Watch this space.

    • Amazona February 12, 2017 / 9:34 pm

      Why, “Simon”? Do you have some more little flow charts with arrows and lines, filled with innuendo?

      Here’s a question for you: Why do you think Flynn discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador? And why (and how) do you think he misled the Vice President about these (alleged) discussions? More “journalism” from Business Insider?

      I’ll tell you what—–I’ll watch this space. I’m betting that if you respond at all, it will be full of more weasel words—“reportedly, allegedly, it has been suggested that, the implication is” etc.

      Till then, I will just rephrase your lead-in: “Lies, BS and all that.”

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