Open Thread

Solution to the Caravan: close the border. Just tell Mexico that nothing crosses the border if that Caravan gets within 100 miles of it. Until the Mexicans turn it around and send it home, nothing gets across in either direction. It’ll cause an economic disruption, but far more in Mexico than here…and even the drug cartels would exert pressure to get the Caravan turned around.

That Trump rally in Texas was astonishing. Just a gigantic, happy crowd. Once again – all the Experts tell us the GOP is doomed on the 6th, but where’s the evidence? Where are the throngs showing up for Democrat events? Heck, where are the early votes? So far, only Nevada has given the Dems a slight edge in early voting, and my bet is that is only because the rural areas of Nevada haven’t checked in as of this moment. As for all the money the Democrats suddenly got – I’m figuring it is laundered money-bags money. Someone pushed the panic button and some big money people shoved money around and made it appear that Act Blue is getting huge small donor money. Of course, we’ll all find out for sure in two weeks.

President Trump remains the ultimate troll:

Trump says that he might nominate Hillary Clinton to the Supreme Court, just so the media will investigate her deleted emails

PETA says that milk is a symbol of White Supremacy. It is really getting hard to parody the Left these days.

The actual hero of Telemark has died at the age of 99. A genuine tough guy.

There’s an oddity about the Black Sea – apparently, when sea levels changed ages ago, the “original” Black Sea (much smaller than the current one) was submerged…and became a nearly oxygen-free layer of water. The upshot is that deep down in the Black Sea, anything that winds up there gets amazingly preserved, including this 2,400 year old shipwreck. The ship is remarkably intact. And it, while the oldest so far, is merely one of what may be scores or hundreds of such ships. The science guys are pretty committed, from what I can tell, to leaving everything in place…but, I’m not sure. What good does it do down there? My view: find some way to raise as much as possible and preserve it.

18 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. jdge1 October 23, 2018 / 9:10 am

    “Trump admin considers defining person’s sex as ‘male or female’ based on biology: leaked memo.”

    Thank God someone in government, in this case Trump, , has a backbone.

    One of the left’s hallmark traits is to invents and assigns labels to most everyone they can so they can tell that group, no matter how small they may be, that all of their problems stem from the heartless right. Of course the fix to their problems is to give the left power and OPM to correct these invented injustices and discriminations. And when the fixes don’t work (because they rarely if ever do) the left with a straight face will declare, we just didn’t have enough money. Forget that these so called fixes will reduce or eliminate peoples liberties and freedoms.

    • M. Noonan October 23, 2018 / 3:58 pm

      It is about control – the intent is to force everyone to participate in something they know to be untrue, and the punishment for not participating in loss of job and social status. That is the real key to control: putting not a person’s physical life at risk, but putting their day to day living at risk.

      The bottom line is that for most people, asserting what they know to be true on social media carries a gigantic risk…and, so, most people simply steer away from the issues which cause that risk. This, of course, leaves the field to the left and thus helps them enforce their rules. What Trump has done is break that down…and it is a glorious thing.

    • Retired Spook October 23, 2018 / 10:05 am

      Conservatives have done a remarkable job of turning the other cheek to the Leftist mobs. It helps that we have a Commander in Chief who punches back for us. In fact, I’d have to say that that aspect of Trump’s persona is high on most Conservatives’ list of what they like about him. Sooner or later, though, someone is going to say “enough,” and I wouldn’t want to the receiving end of the pent up rage that is building in the Conservative community.

    • Frank Lee (@trumpcowboy) October 23, 2018 / 4:01 pm

      “Other Diners Intervene…” It makes me think this might be the solution (or simply the result) of leftists thinking they can dominate debates by taking them to places where it’s inappropriate to have shouting debates with strangers.

      I’ve always suspected that the weakness the 9/11 hijackers took advantage of was that decent people were taught that you let authorities deal with terrorists and simply comply until they arrive. Think of all those 1970’s movies where terrorists take over something and the responsible people wait and negotiate and only some jerk tries to fight back, making things worse. (Kind of ending when Die Hard flipped the genre.)

      There hasn’t been another major hijacking of a plane since 9/11 because I believe these days the passengers would instantly rebell to stop it. Even risking their lives to do so. No one is going to sit by waiting for authorities these days if someone tries to take over the plane with a box cutter. (Remember the failed shoe bomber?)

      Maybe the same thing will start happening when leftist mobs start shouting in restaurants. Rather than sitting by, confused and waiting for some authority, maybe the other patrons will intervene and tell them to quiet down (hopefully firmly, without violence). That may start happening more and more and the leftists will lose their free sucker punch. And embarrassing videos of other patrons telling them to lay off will likely accelerate the trend and embarrass crazy leftists. (If they can be.)

      • Amazona October 23, 2018 / 9:53 pm

        I have a brother who is a hard-core Lib, and even he thought the blade ban on flights was stupid. He thought every passenger should be issued a knife upon entering the plane, to turn it in at the end of the flight.

        I had to admit, it had a certain logic to it.

        As for facing down Leftist mobs, I think a polite query “why are you so rude?” would be hard to deal with. The response that “well, he deserves it” should just be met with the repeated comment that the person is being rude. It seems that people don’t mind being called a lot of things, but don’t like being called rude.

  2. jdge1 October 23, 2018 / 9:47 am

    Amazing hypocrisy. “A California Riverside County resident Arie van Nieuwenhuyzen purchased a handgun with the intent of applying for a CCW. When he asked the Sheriff’s department how he would go about apply, he was told he was ineligible for a permit because he’s a U.S. resident, not a U.S. citizen. Van Nieuwenhuyzen has lived in Riverside since 1983 as a legal U.S. resident. According to the lawsuit, van Nieuwenhuyzen has been a successful business owner and member of the community. He is an active member of his church and teaches Sunday School. He “has obeyed all laws and customs of his adopted country and state.” Of course if he were an illegal immigrant and wanted to vote, there’d be no questions asked.

  3. Amazona October 23, 2018 / 9:25 pm

    I would love to see Trump turn this into a victory for him.

    1. Work with Mexico to form a partnership to address this problem. We have leverage—billions of dollars sent to Mexico every year by Mexicans working here.

    2. Establish a camp 100 miles or so from the border with our line drawn there. Everyone in the caravan will be fed, given medical care if necessary, and then transported back home. EVERYONE. When they arrive they will see buses lined up, tents with food and bathroom facilities, and a first aid tent. I would treat it like a natural disaster drill. I’d provide cots so these poor people could rest before heading back to their home lands. I would make it the nicest, friendliest, most helpful place imaginable, but quite firm in determination that this is as far as anyone goes.

    3. Drop flyers along the caravan telling people that none of them will be allowed into the country. None. For any reason. Tell them that applications for asylum will be taken at a camp 100 miles from the border and then everyone in the caravan—EVERYONE—will be transported back to the borders of their countries. One of the messages in the flyers would be that all children WILL be separated from the adults they are traveling with, until it can be determined if the adults are their parents or close relatives with guardianship of the children. If the adults are not parents or legal guardians, they they will be arrested and charged with human trafficking, and the children will be placed in foster care till their parents can be found.

    4. As part of this partnership, interdict the caravan at points along the way, telling everyone in the caravan the same thing and offering transportation back home. These interdictions should include the information that the people were lied to and used for political purposes by people who knew they would fail but only wanted the photo ops.

    5. Efforts to bypass the camps and enter the US illegally will be met with force, as much as necessary, as it will be considered an invasion and not “immigration”.

    I think this would show both compassion and strength, and completely destroy the intended narrative of Heartless Republicans. We would be taking the side of the oppressed, while defending our borders. It would show diplomacy as well, in working with Mexico. I would have massive press coverage of warm, caring people speaking Spanish and helping these people, expressing deep regret and concern that they were lied to and used and consideration of their plight,but always with determination that the border would not be violated.

  4. Cluster October 24, 2018 / 8:15 am

    Let’s just state the obvious and that is that the MSM has dropped all pretense of objectivity and are 100% a public relations and campaign outreach now for the Democrats. And here’s how desperate they have become. Morning Joe just played a clip of Sen. Cruz talking to an audience about Beto O’Rourke to which one attendee jokingly cried out “lock him up” – Cruz and the audience laughed and Cruz made a sarcastic comment and everyone who was there got the reference and the humor.

    But not Mika – after playing the clip, she came back on the air and solemnly stated “what you just heard was a sitting US Senator call for the jailing of his political opponent. This is un American and dangerous”

    Morning Joe is doing EVERYTHING possible to paint Republicans as lying, xenophobic, racist reprobates – it’s laughable

    Re: the caravan – shouldn’t we also be talking about why these people are fleeing their countries? It’s not as if the US has more natural resources, more agricultural areas, or prettier beaches. Central America is rich with natural resources and economic opportunities. What America does offer though is a Constitution ensuring freedom, a capitalist economy ensuring opportunity, protected civil rights, and due process, none of which are found in socialist countries ran by corrupt bureaucrats. This fact should be mentioned in every media report of this mass exodus from failed socialist global bureaucrats.

  5. Cluster October 24, 2018 / 8:59 am

    Democrats are not the sharpest tools in the shed. MSNBC is just now figuring out that City, County, and State offices also matter and they are bemoaning the lack of Democrats at those levels. How long before they realize that Socialism doesn’t work?

  6. Retired Spook October 24, 2018 / 10:22 am

    Amazona steered me on to Public Discourse, the Journal of the Witherspoon Institute a couple years ago. It was largely essays or book reviews in which intellectuals argued with each other with a truly thought-provoking essay thrown in every once in a while. About ten days ago the editors completely revamped the website, and since them it’s been one great essay after another. Today’s essay on civic friendship is no exception.

    A true friend sticks closer than a brother even when we are not at our best, when we are not a joy to be around. And thus Aristotle leads us to the third and most fundamental form of friendship: that grounded on love for the good of the other person for his or her own sake. This friendship is most valuable, and rare, and is at once both outwardly focused (because it is for the good of the other person) and inwardly connected (because a one-way commitment to another person’s good is not friendship).

    If Aristotle is right, then, our truest and deepest friendships require a commitment to the other person’s good, and the other person’s commitment to our good. True friendship would then depend on a shared understanding of what is good, which then makes possible the conscious commitment to that person’s good even when such a commitment has no perceived utility and is less than pleasant.

    I think with this understanding of friendship we can better understand why recent political seasons feel so personally vexing and exhausting. When our neighbors endorse a significantly different political vision than we do, we intuitively sense that this is more than a mere disagreement about how to solve a problem, like two college roommates on a road trip bickering over the best way to get to spring break. This is a radical (to the root) disagreement about what counts as a problem in the first place. One college roommate is arguing about the best route to Florida while the other thinks Los Angeles is the destination. We cannot believe that Grandpa voted for him. We are aghast that our niece volunteered for her. This is why it is impossible to cleanly separate friendship from politics, and why we should feel some sense of alienation when our friends and our neighbors endorse a position we find wrong or even abhorrent. Our politics reflects our sense of what’s good, and that’s intensely personal. (emphasis – mine)

  7. Retired Spook October 24, 2018 / 10:34 am

    Michelle Malkin does an excellent job of setting the Obama record straight.

    • jdge1 October 24, 2018 / 11:46 am

      How easy people forget. These are the messages that need to hammered everyday from now until elections and then again repeatedly until the left is dismantled.

  8. Retired Spook October 24, 2018 / 10:42 am

    The Town Hall writers are really on a roll this morning.

    Currently, for instance, the Department of Health and Human Services is moving to re-write the Obama administration’s legal definition of sex, which turned gender definition into a matter of personal whim rather than biological fact.

    “Sex means a person’s status as a male or female based on immutable biological traits identifiable by or before birth…” according to the re-write being proposed by HHS.

    Such clarity is vital considering laws like Title IX of the civil rights act that protect against gender discrimination. What could gender discrimination mean if gender has no factual basis and is just something that individuals make up?

    • Cluster October 24, 2018 / 10:47 am

      Isn’t this called Science?

  9. Cluster October 24, 2018 / 10:50 am

    Thanks President Trump. I just opened my water bill to see that I am now paying about 20% less due to the TAX CUTS. An announcement was included in with the statement saying that ALL residents will be receiving refunds on their water bills, ie: lower bills due to the 2017 Tax Bill.

    Democrats want to reverse this. Not a good campaign strategy.

  10. Cluster October 24, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    So now we know …..

    Who is it? Is it Soros, the hedge fund leftist billionaire of chaos who vowed to shell out $500 million for migrants a few years back? Democrats, the same people who had tens of millions to pay for a fake dossier in a bid to win an election and who have lately been struggling to win the Latino vote? Or is it, as I suspect, Chavista Venezuelan oil money, given the Chavistas’ stated desire to flood America with indigent migrants (which has been around as a threat ever since Hugo Chávez taunted the U.S. over is border in the 2000s) as a means of spreading its revolution northward? The Chavista ties of the caravan’s front-group organizers, Pueblo Sin Fronteras, as well as its known Chavez-supporting Honduran ringleaders, are rather obvious.

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