Open Thread

The MSM was working up an anti-Trump “he hasn’t visited the troops this Christmas” meme. Until just recently.

Glen Reynolds talks up the prospects of war and how we might have a very lousy 21st century. It’d have to be pretty bad to exceed the 20th century, but there’s definitely a chance we could see that. It has been rolling around in my head that the existence of things like the UN and NATO have pretty much created this bad situation – alliances aren’t supposed to be permanent and a permanent, global talk-shop is a sure-fire way to make certain that cracks continue to be papered over. We do need alliances and we do need mechanisms for addressing international concerns…but the alliances and the talk-shop should be ad-hoc and set up for specific purposes.

Take, for instance, Russian aggression in Europe. NATO is pretty much a dead weight – the NATO “allies” are hoping that the United States will carry the load. On the other hand, if we had no NATO, we could craft an alliance with the nation’s most concerned and we’d likely get them fully willing to put the necessary muscle behind the effort. And as for something like peace in the Middle East, absent a UN – where Russia and China can veto any action which doesn’t 100% suit them – we could put together a group akin to, say, the Congress of Vienna in 1815 to hammer out a settlement…something where no one can stop it from happening short of war, but with the Great Powers insisting, all the smaller fry would have to just fall in line. None of this would assure against war, but I think it would have a better chance than the current system where we’re slowly drifting to war and none of the mechanisms in place can stop the drift.

IQ scores are falling around the world and a prime suspect is the Boob Tube – TV or computer, doesn’t seem to matter which (my Dad was calling the TV the “idiot box” back in the 70’s). I can definitely see this. First off, a lot of the information provided on screen is just wrong: some of it quite stupidly wrong. But as its on a screen and people, especially young people, have been trained to believe the screen, they are believing some really dumb stuff. Secondly, it takes time to learn and digest information, especially complex information. The whole thing about TV – and even more so the internet – is speed. Quick bullet points with pre-determined conclusions are the norm. I don’t think anyone intended this to happen: but if what is wanted is a generation of stupid people dependent upon government, you couldn’t have planned it better.

A Chinese admiral thinks that if he can sink a couple ships and cause us 5,000 or 10,000 casualties, we’ll quit. This was tried before, and it didn’t work out well for those who tried it. But, I think China will try it, in the by and by.

That Saudi “journalist” who got (apparently) whacked in Turkey? Pretty much a paid, Qatari agent. Important lesson here: the MSM is lying. It is lying all the time. It is lying about everything. It even lies when it doesn’t have to – I mean, come on: it was still bad this guy got killed. They didn’t have to make him out as some sort of heroic journalist truth-teller. Now, all fruit from this tree is poisoned.

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41 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook December 26, 2018 / 6:39 pm

    The stock market doesn’t seem to be concerned about the government shut-down. DOW and S&P were up 5% and the NASDAQ up 6%. The 1,086 point rise in the DOW was the highest in the history of the stock market.

    • M. Noonan December 26, 2018 / 11:09 pm

      Suddenly the MSM is pretty quiet about that…

      • Amazona December 27, 2018 / 10:21 am

        Not even an “urrp” from Fielding….

      • M. Noonan December 27, 2018 / 11:28 am

        Not a bit of it – though I bet if it takes a dip in a few days he’ll be back on the subject.

      • Retired Spook December 27, 2018 / 11:09 am

        I don’t watch a lot of TV news — the local news and weather usually while we eating or preparing dinner, Special Report on Fox at 6 EST because it’s a good mix of news and opinion, with the opinion portion being identified as such, and Fox News Sunday. Brett Bair on Special Report is, as far as I can tell, a pretty solid Conservative and does interviews and asks questions from that perspective, and Chris Wallace who hosts Fox News Sunday is a solid Liberal and interviews and asks questions from that perspective. Both shows have opinion panels, usually the last third of the hour that feature Conservatives, Moderates and Liberals. Both shows are extraordinarily civil in nature compared to most other cable news and opinion shows and offer a good cross section of thought across the political spectrum.

        Over the course of the last couple weeks, because most of the network shows my wife and I watch are on mid-winter hiatus (and you can only watch so many Hallmark Christmas movies), we surfed around to a bunch of venues that we don’t normally watch, specifically CNN and MSNBC. Neither really has much actual news, at least not news that isn’t laced with opinion and non-stop Trump bashing. And frankly there’s no shortage of anti-Trump sentiment on FNC either, although there are more Trump defenders on the opinion portions of FNC than all the other networks combined. I know it’s not a statistically significant portion of the population that gets its news from CNN and MSNBC, but after having watched a bit of it I have a better understanding of why some people think and act as they do. If one identifies him or herself as a Liberal, Progressive or Democratic Socialist, there is no better confirmation bias than CNN and MSNBC. I just can’t identify with people who go through life and never challenge what they believe.

      • M. Noonan December 27, 2018 / 11:27 am

        I’ve got a very dear friend who has gone, over the years, from moderate liberal to, now, full blown kook TDS Orange Man Bad. He’s convinced that I only believe as I do because I watch Faux News…when the only news I watch on any consistent basis is the local news, and that only for the weather. Heck, I don’t even watch NFL highlights any longer on the sports channels. TV is utter garbage. The reason my DVD movie collection is moving towards 400 (and will eventually be close to 700) is because, desiring something to watch, I’ve been steadily searching out anything I’ve ever seen that I liked. I really hope to have more than two years (movie per day) of DVDs so that when I’m totally geezered, I’ll at least be able to watch TV a couple hours a day. The friend, of course, takes Maddow and such as Gospel. And, you’re right, it leads to a weird world view.

        Take, for instance, that kid who died last week in ICE custody…you and I know that there’s no way any American is remotely responsible for that child’s death because we know the parents dragged the kid across the desert and by the time they got to us, it was too late: from what we’ve learned, that child was going to die at that point, no matter what anyone did. Now, even if someone wants to be a full-blown liberal about that, you’d think that they’d take at least a moment to condemn the parents. Not a bit of it – as my TDS friend and I went back and forth on it, I realized that it was all Orange Man Bad. Not a bit of desire to look at it from any other angle. Such are the wages of watching nothing but propaganda.

      • Amazona December 28, 2018 / 2:08 am

        To illustrate, yet again, the utter cluelessness and tone-deafness of the Left, CBS host Alexandra Diaz was trying to put a border control official on defense about a recent child’s death: emphasis mine

        Diaz: Commissioner, we were in Mexico traveling with the caravan for days, and we saw children traveling ten hours a day at least, walking under the hot sun, sleeping on the street in really dire, unhealthy conditions.

        Okay, so at this point she appears to be acknowledging the child abuse inflicted by the adults to put these children in these “dire” conditions, right? But no. What she wants to know is What are you doing to ensure that these children are healthy, as healthy as they can be?

        ????????? The correct answer would have been “To have an impervious border, to get rid of the Obama policy that encourages this kind of child abuse by promising “bring a kid, get in free” and to make it clear that arriving at the border without papers obtained through legal channels in the home nations will not, ever, allow entry into the United States. That, Alexandra, is about all we can to do to keep adults from endangering children in this way.”

        Of course, he couldn’t or wouldn’t say that. So she continued: And to have two deaths in three weeks, are these children slipping through the cracks?

        Yeah, Alexandra, they ARE slipping through the cracks—cracks in the system, which the Dems will not allow us to fix.

        She clearly did not realize that her own description of the conditions these children endured, because of decisions made by people who were supposed to be protecting them, indicted the Obama policy and the adults who dragged the children across a large country to use them as pawns to help them game our system.

      • Amazona December 28, 2018 / 2:28 am

        Mark, is your friend a Liberal because he believes in and supports the actual political structure of Leftism, or is he just attracted to the visceral thrill of All Hate All The Time?

        I ask because in the nearly two decades of asking Libs to explain their political philosophy, much of it here on this blog, only one ever has—-and he was a full-blown Marxist who had studied Marx, or so he said, and was committed to the political structure of communism.

        The rest, and I am talking about a lot of people here, have either “explained” their Liberalism in airy-fairy platitudinous murmurings about just thinking things should be, like, you know, like MORE FAIR, and, you know, like MORE EQUAL or, more and more as time has gone on, in terms of being a Liberal as the only rational reaction to a Right that is wholly motivated by greed, hatred, racism, warmongering, and did I mention racism?

        In other words, even those who try to dress up their ugliness in fancy words and elaborate phrasing can’t disguise the fact that they have no serious political foundations, and are just depending on knee-jerk spasms of hatred and rage in response to what they are told.

      • Amazona December 28, 2018 / 2:14 am

        I just can’t identify with people who go through life and never challenge what they believe. I just can’t identify with people who purposely CHOOSE the ugliest, most hateful, most negative way to look at life, even when they don’t then project that ugliness and hatred onto others.

        This sad sick need to hate is very disturbing. It used to be properly identified as a personality disorder, at the very least, and to the degree we too often see on television an actual mental derangement. Now the Left has succeeded in getting this kind of distorted perception accepted as a legitimate expression of political belief, even though there is seldom if ever anything POLITICAL involved. It is always personal, always identity, always gossipy, always just plain vicious, without an iota of concern about the damage they are doing to the nation, or about anything to do with how to actually govern the nation.

      • Retired Spook December 27, 2018 / 12:00 pm

        My oldest daughter and her husband have lived in Lawrence, KS, since the early 90’s. Both of my grandsons were born and grew up there. Lawrence is home to the University of Kansas, and is a bright blue cyst in a sea of red on the Kansas electoral map, although Democrats have been making serious advancements statewide in recent years, and the new governor is a Democrat.

        My daughter and her family were home for Christmas for the first time in many years, and we had an unspoken agreement not to discuss politics because the Leftisim that is Lawrence has warped their belief system almost beyond recognition. There was one brief moment last Sunday when I was catching up on emails and my daughter walked into the den just as I opened an email from a mutual friend of Amazona’s and mine. The gist of the email was a bunch of hilarious memes about Elizabeth Warren. The first frame was a photo of a mosquito biting the palm of a person’s hand with a caption that read, “and just like that all of Elizabeth Warren’s Native American blood was gone.” My daughter asked what I was doing, and I pointed to the screen and said, “I apologize in advance if you’re an Elizabeth Warren fan, but this is pretty funny.” She responded, “I am, but it IS funny.”

    • Retired Spook December 27, 2018 / 11:43 am

      Not even an “urrp” from Fielding….

      I thought it was an “oof,” or was it a “woof?”

      • Retired Spook December 27, 2018 / 2:10 pm

        And who said Liberals don’t have a sense of humor?

      • M. Noonan December 27, 2018 / 4:46 pm

        Mostly liberals…

  2. Retired Spook December 27, 2018 / 3:03 pm

    I wonder if anyone has ever compiled a list of politicians who are against the Wall who either live in a gated community or have a wall around their estate. Inquiring minds want to know.

    • Amazona December 28, 2018 / 2:19 am

      Try asking a Lib who is wailing about the inhumanity of border security and how we should just let these people into the country because all they want is a better life, if they lock their houses when they leave them. After all, there are a lot of people who just want a better place to live. Or at the very least, a better TV.

      Ask them if, when they park their cars, they lock the doors. What about all those good sincere people who just want a better ride?

      Hint: This will get you called a racist.

  3. Retired Spook December 28, 2018 / 12:02 pm

    Glen Reynolds talks up the prospects of war and how we might have a very lousy 21st century. It’d have to be pretty bad to exceed the 20th century, but there’s definitely a chance we could see that. (emphasis – mine)

    A while back a professor named R. J. Rummel came up with the well documented number of 262 million innocent, unarmed civilians murdered by their governments during the 20th century. Governments are still murdering their citizens, but not nearly at that rate, and while there are still old Leftists whose wet dream it is to eliminate anyone who disagrees with them, I don’t see that same mindset in the last couple generations. Mao said political power comes from the end of a gun, and, at least in this country the majority of guns are in the hands of people who have no desire for political power. Our Founders were, indeed, wise men.

    • Amazona December 28, 2018 / 10:22 pm

      “…while there are still old Leftists whose wet dream it is to eliminate anyone who disagrees with them, I don’t see that same mindset in the last couple generations….”

      I didn’t, either, until the past couple of years. The Left in the United States had been relatively quiet, focusing on unwinding centuries of tradition and science in its pursuit of creating more and more conflict and divisiveness among its invented demographics but keeping its voice limited to its Social Justice memes. All of them damaging, all of the leading to more and more disruption of social norms and life in this country, but for the most part non-violent.

      That was when they were getting their own way with the government. They had their Lefty president and his heiress-apparent waiting in the wings to be anointed and crowned as his successor, to carry on his legacy. They had their cabinet members obediently enacting approved Leftist policies. They had their political appointees running their vastly expanded and bloated federal agencies, legislating from their offices without any oversight from Congress—-a Congress so limp and impotent it had become nothing but a retirement plan for incompetents and sometimes just the plain stupid. They had their pet judges, legislating Leftist policies from their benches. They were still rude and snarling and obnoxious, but not particularly violent.

      But the change in the past couple of years has been striking. Once they lost the presidency, and furthermore lost it to someone openly dedicated to dismantling their edifices of centralized power, they started to reveal their violent natures. And now they are coming right out and saying that conservatives really should not exist at all. There is no place for us in “their” America, and many have openly advocated violence in pursuit of reclaiming their authority.

      What is saving us, NOW, is the fact that the demographic they want to destroy is the one with the guns. But they have proved their willingness to use the power of the State to pursue and persecute political opposition and destroy it in every way but physical death, and I don’t think that last step is a very big one.

      I think we can head it off, if we manage to stay focused on what is important. That is, disarming the Deep State, which is what is now being held up by the Mueller “investigation”. I am convinced the only reason it has gone on for so long is that it is the only thing stopping the Trump DOJ from mass firings, indictments and prosecutions of Leftists who callously used and abused the power of their positions to harm political opponents.

      I believe if we can hold on through the eventual Mueller “reveal” so the culprits can be fired, indicted, prosecuted, etc. we will be OK. But we HAVE to get them into organized legal proceedings with sworn testimony, evidence, etc. I would like to see televised trials in which the actual facts are presented, and testimony is taken under oath. The public is blind to the reality of this because of the cover provided by the Complicit Agenda Media.

      Without that stripping away of the disguises used by the Left to hide their machinations and manipulations and lies and working to undermine our very rule of law, I think the Left will continue to escalate its verbal violence into something more tangible. And I remind people that the populations that were massacred by the thousands usually didn’t think it would happen to them, either.

      The difference here is that, at least for now, our military is not likely to act against the citizens, and it took the complicity of the military in these other countries, the organized armies or a large enough rebel force, to kill the population that was in the way of the Left. And never forget, it has always been the populations the LEFT wanted eliminated that have been killed off in such numbers.

      • M. Noonan December 28, 2018 / 11:19 pm

        I think what really is making the left mad about those troops having their MAGA hats signed is that it shows that at least a good portion of the military is behind Trump. Maybe not the top brass – especially those promoted by Obama – but in the rank and file. The left had been working up a meme that the troops were furious that Trump is withdrawing from Syria…which I guess they thought might be something but which only shows how ignorant they are of the military. The boys and girls are ready to lay down their lives in an instant…but given a choice between staying in the shooting gallery and coming home, they’d rather come home. Especially since they aren’t stupid – they know full well that our small forces weren’t ever going to finish the Syrian Civil War. The actions of a few MAGA hats have dismayed them.

      • Amazona December 30, 2018 / 12:04 pm

        How long does it take to get from being happy a conservative is dead to wanting conservatives to die to actually killing conservatives?

        Read the comments at the end of this article to see what I am talking about. This is typical of the kind of comment from Leftists I see all the time. https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/12/29/fix-this-article-and-apologize-ap-is-lambasted-for-how-they-reported-swine-flu-death-of-26-yr-old-conservative-journo

        There was outrage on the Left when Cheney got a heart transplant, and the internet was flooded with statements that he should have just died, wanting him to die, that his death would be celebrated.

        We can murmur that these are just the insane ramblings of the truly disturbed—–and they are—-but enough of the truly disturbed can stir up the more marginally disturbed, into a pack mentality that is such a feature of the Left.

  4. Cluster December 28, 2018 / 6:32 pm

    Spook, I want to go back to your comment on Special Report, which is the best political show on tv by far. And the first half hour of Special Report is straight news and very refreshing and it has become the only program I watch now. Many of you will be happy to hear that I don’t watch Morning Joe anymore lol …… I had to turn away. I am embarrassed for them. Mika has morning melt downs, Joe throws temper tantrums, and the rest of the panel plays right along. It’s not even junior high quality anymore. And of course the rest of MSNBC and CNN is completely unwatchable.

  5. Cluster December 29, 2018 / 8:37 am

    Headline this morning on Phoenix news:

    “No End In Sight for Illegal Immigrant Releases”

    Another 6,000 were released this week at Phoenix churches. Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is vacationing in Hawaii and Maxine Waters is in the Bahamas.

    America has become a shithole

    • Amazona December 29, 2018 / 9:43 am

      Are you actually saying that ICE dumped 6000 illegals at Phoenix churches this week? Seriously?

      • Cluster December 29, 2018 / 10:16 am

        Yes, that is the news report anyway and the numbers given. Local churches have had to stop taking in the immigrants because they have no more room

    • Retired Spook December 29, 2018 / 9:56 am

      in a mass, virtue signaling attempt, a lot of Liberals are quoting the lines from the Statue of Liberty: “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” What they forget is that we allowed such a large number of those huddled masses and wretched refuse around the turn of the last century that we halted immigration almost completely from the early 20’s to the mid 60’s to allow those millions to assimilate.

      I’m all in favor of making LEGAL immigration easier, but even if we do that, most of the people who are crossing the border illegally still wouldn’t be let in because the vast majority of them are unskilled and uneducated and not only not equipped to contribute anything to our society, but seem, for the most part, to not be interested in becoming Americans.

      • Cluster December 29, 2018 / 10:21 am

        That plaque at the Statue of Liberty has nothing to do with the Charter of this country. America is NOT a dumping ground

        Only people with political agendas refer to that plaque. We need to lift the people of this country up, we should NEVER reduce Americans to the lowest common denominator which socialism does. Just take a look at these immigrants who come from socialist countries – do they look competent, educated, and innovative. Hell no. They are broken people.

      • Amazona December 29, 2018 / 9:38 pm

        It is absolute, utter insanity to promote immigration by people who hate the United States. Respecting this country and wanting to be part of it should be the first, biggest and most important criterion for considering an application to live here.

        At Ellis Island, people who were sick were not allowed in. Even now, someone applying for permanent residency has to undergo some rigorous health testing, including (for men) prostate exams. I’m not sure why that is considered important, but I was at a party where a man from Argentina who was extremely sensitive about homosexuals had us in stitches when he talked about his immigration exam and imitated the doctor snapping on his rubber glove. To say he was surprised would be the understatement of the century.

      • M. Noonan December 30, 2018 / 1:09 am

        And people forget there was a great deal of difficulty in assimilating the last great wave of immigrants – and that was back when assimilation was built into the immigration system…and we had immigrants who, for the most part, wanted to assimilate. Still, problems abounded. Crime was higher in high immigrant areas. Immigrants used far more than their fair share of public assistance. We got the Italian Mafia along with the excellent Italians. We also, in that wave, got our first Socialists…such ideology having been previously very rare in the United States. We also got a fertile breeding ground for leftist activism in the immigrant slums. These days, we’re taking people who often have no cultural connection to the United States, at all – and who are deliberately prevented from assimilation by political activists who prefer a tribe they can control. It is a huge mess – and why I’m in favor of stopping all immigration for a period of 20 years.

      • Amazona December 30, 2018 / 9:25 pm

        Mark, you say ….I’m in favor of stopping all immigration for a period of 20 years….

        I was a little startled by that, and had to think about it for a while, but I am coming around to believing it would be a good idea for many reasons.

        One would be the effect it would have on the borders, as people would have no reason to try to enter illegally if they knew there was no chance they could ever be legalized, and would be deported with a criminal record meaning they couldn’t even return as visitors or if the law were to change. (Naturally, we would have to change our laws to make being here illegally a felony, with immediate deportation the penalty for the first offense and prison time for repeat offenses.)

        Basically, border patrol would constitute merely stopping illegal entries, without the complications of asylum applications or other laws and regulations that make stopping people a symbolic gesture. It would be “stop and return” in every case, simplifying their jobs.

        This would also have to be accompanied by a severe cutback in welfare payments of all kinds, forcing Americans and those already here and given work permits to work. There would have to be a shift from college for everyone to trade schools, and people would pay more for yard work, etc.

        I would also make civics classes and language classes mandatory for every foreigner who wants to stay here, and stop the nonsense of bilingual government documents, etc. It would take a while to get to that point, but it is a worthy goal.

        We are well along the slippery slope of making things easier when people can’t succeed. When the DMV in Denver was overwhelmed because people were not studying for their license tests and just taking them over and over again till they passed, Colorado “solved” this problem by making the tests easier. Wrong. They should have charged to take the test, maybe $10 per test, and only allow someone to take two tests in a day and then wait for a week. Then they could have charged $15 for the actual license when it was issued. This would have put the responsibility on the person instead of the government, and not flooded the roads with people even less educated about safe driving than before.

        The same kind of attitude should be applied to allowing people to become part of America. They should have to strive for the privilege and prove their sincerity and commitment. Residency in the United States is valuable, and citizenship even more so, and we treat both as if they are relatively meaningless.

        I would add something to the immigration issue—people who want to become citizens can qualify more quickly by serving honorably in our armed forces.

      • M. Noonan December 31, 2018 / 1:22 am

        I’ve been reminded a lot lately of something the historian Will Durant wrote when he was discussing the reasons why the Roman Empire fell…part of it was a rapid fertility decline among actual Romans. These Romans were replaced by immigrants who came to Rome and Italy to enjoy the flush economy. Durant wrote words along the lines of, “if the Romans had curbed immigration to allow assimilation to catch up with immigration and had passed the newcomers through her schools rather than her slums, the new arrivals would have become Roman, and thus preserved the virtues which made Rome great”.

        There are those out there who are trying to assert that only certain ethnic groups can sustain certain civilizations. That is nonsense on stilts, of course: people are people. And they are what they learn. Teach them from Day One to be Yankee Doodle Americans, and that’s what they’ll be. These days, we’re not even imparting our American values to our own young – small wonder that the successive waves of immigrants are increasingly unlikely to assimilate. My view on a halt to immigration is based on the fact that we haven’t assimilated…and we need time to catch up. We need, that is, for the overwhelming power of American culture – and it is overwhelming – to sculpt foreigners into Americans. Then, when we have few or no young foreign born, we can open the door a crack.

        But, also, we are a nation of 318 million. That is quite a lot. People don’t realize that we’re the third most populous nation in the world. We’re going to go north of 400 million, easily, even if we stopped all immigration today. How many do we really want to live here? We’re no longer a wide open, mostly empty land. We’re getting packed in a little tight. Those who say we must import people are merely saying, in my view, “I don’t like employing Americans”. To which I answer: “f*** you”. They just don’t want to pay a decent wage and they prefer docile foreigners who won’t question the boss. We have all we need – all the brilliant scientists and all the ditch diggers. There are no group of foreigners out there who can do things better than we can.

      • Amazona December 31, 2018 / 2:23 am

        Mark, I agree with everything you say, but I still, in my mind, come back to the belief that we will need a massive shift in attitude within this country. Try to find someone who has a work ethic, who can and will do a job without whining or quitting or just doing a crappy job.

  6. Cluster December 31, 2018 / 8:48 am

    Let this headline sink in a little:

    Organizers canceled the Women’s March event in Northern California slated for next month over concerns that the rally-goers would be ‘overwhelmingly white.’

    • Amazona December 31, 2018 / 11:17 am

      And we sit back and watch them eat their own. Pass the popcorn.

      BTW, kudos for cutting Joey and the Bimbo out of your morning routine. I am sure you are much happier for it. I never understood the attraction of ruining a beautiful day by starting it with a big fresh pile of steaming manure delivered by a shrill hysterical hag.

      • Cluster January 1, 2019 / 10:27 am

        I am happier not watching that garbage …. in fact I have stopped watching a lot of politics and have found that there is a correlation …. lol

      • Amazona January 1, 2019 / 2:22 pm

        Cluster, I came to that conclusion a couple of years ago, and it made my life much happier and better. There are a couple of places I go to online if I want to find out what is happening around the world and I simply ignore the television commentary. Every now and then a show I like will end while I am doing something else and a local “news” station will come on, and while our local people are not as blatantly and toxically biased as the national talking heads they still telegraph political messages in the content of what they read. They will repeat lies such as “children being separated from their parents at the border” and might not even realize they are pawns or puppets, but the end result is the same—GIGO.

        When you do find yourself watching a “news” cast, pay attention to the verbal and facial clues of the readers. They will tell you what they want you to think about what they are saying. A deeper voice and slower cadence and the word “controversial” will tell you that you are supposed to find the content upsetting, and react negatively, and then in the next segment the reader will perk up, the head will come up, the tone will lighten and become quite perky, and you know this is a message the Left approves of.

        It is more insidious than just the obvious meat puppets like Joey and the Bimbo, or Lemon or whatever other Lefty talking head is on at the time. And it is all part of the overall propaganda campaign of the Left, working nonstop to try to shape the minds and therefore the opinions and therefore the votes of the American public,

  7. Cluster January 1, 2019 / 10:57 am

    And Dennis Prager is absolutely right:

    2019 will be a dark year in America. ….. the Democratic Party and the media will do to American political life what it has done to the arts; the universities; the high schools; the Boy Scouts; race relations; religion; the happiness of so many women (misled by feminism regarding marriage and career); the moral fabric of American life (morality reduced to feelings); late-night television; mainstream Judaism, Catholicism and Protestantism; pro football; and the sexual innocence of the young: It will poison it.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2019/01/01/the-left-will-make-2019-a-dark-year-n2538310

    • Retired Spook January 1, 2019 / 12:11 pm

      They really do destroy everything they touch. The fact that so few realize the consequences of their actions and their rhetoric is proof positive that, for the most part, Leftists are just not very bright.

      • Amazona January 1, 2019 / 3:00 pm

        As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.

        As the mind is bent, from childhood on, so grows its acceptance of the formerly repugnant or stupid or distasteful as normal and even good.

        Even so, there are minds which have been shaped by this incessant, nonstop, shaping and manipulating which would still be open to fact and unvarnished information, if it were made available to them. They might not seek it out, mostly because they don’t even know it is there, but if told about it they can recognize the truths and patterns.

        We miss a lot of opportunities to nudge minds into that kind of exploration of different attitudes than those fed to them by their teachers and the media. Schindler’s List was an immensely popular movie, but I don’t remember any conservatives taking advantage of that to point out that his challenges to authority were only made necessary by the nation first accepting a totalitarian Leftist, government and then sitting back and watching it metastasize into an all-powerful all-controlling monster—-as Leftist governments do.

        Young people were entranced by the Hunger Games movie series but I doubt that many connected the elites who were making the poor engage in lethal games to entertain the masses with the elites who have imposed totalitarian rule on so many countries and brought about the same kinds of miseries, including starvation and loss of liberty. I was surprised to see Hollywood make movies like this, but evidently they felt confident that the underlying message about the dangers of tyranny would go unnnoticed. And it did. I didn’t see a single review of the series commenting on it, or comparing it to the bread and circus efforts of old Rome to control its citizens.

        The Left never misses a chance to link something to one of its messages, and the Right just stands there gaping with its mouth open as chance after chance flies right over its head.

    • JeremiahTMM January 1, 2019 / 7:12 pm

      Mr. Prager is absolutely right, Cluster.
      The problem is, everybody is concentrating on the party, rather than those who elected them. Everyone wants only to negotiate, and try to change people’s minds. Well, I firmly believe that there is no changing minds. The people are full of every kind of wickedness, greed and depravity. And there is no changing them. Oh sure, we know we need rid of the Democratic people in charge. But they’re only exercising the power granted them by the people. So, the biggest thing we need rid of the people who give them their power. In places like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, etc. Those people are full of demons…their mouths are full of blasphemies, they hate white people. The people they hate the most is the Christians, because people who believe and trust in God are the only ones who stand in the way of the Left and their desire for a lawless society.

      As the older generations die off, and the newer generations take over, the new trends for lawlessness appear because of the older generations offspring being brought up in the communistic educational system.

      The enemy surrounds us, but he is not in the Moddle East he is here in America, in our schools, in our media outlets, on the I internet. He’s right here in America.

      • JeremiahTMM January 1, 2019 / 7:50 pm

        For example this commie cashier:

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