Open Thread

I got into a gun control argument with a Brit on Twitter the other day – very unusual in that it wasn’t nasty. But, it also didn’t really have a conclusion…the guy simply stopped responding. This was after I pointed out something which most don’t think about these days:

To love someone is to do what is best for them – if I am to show love for my fellows then certain things are required of me. One is that I never permit someone to be unjustly attacked. Another is that I restrain the wrongdoer from carrying out his plans. The former is far more easily understood than the latter, but neither are really thought of these days.

What my interlocutor was on about is that my Christian faith – which he claims to share – is about mercy and turning the other cheek and so forth; so, it isn’t really right for me to have a gun to shoot the burglar. But the reality is that it is almost a moral requirement that I be armed – as I’m physically capable of bearing arms – because if I am unarmed I can neither defend my neighbor nor attempt to prevent the burglar from doing his evil deed. I can only sit helplessly by…while my neighbor is robbed and maybe killed and the burglar risks his immortal soul in the commission of his crime. How can I be said to be showing love to either of them by doing nothing? There is much we’ve lost: most importantly our sense that justice and mercy go together. Its not one or the other – and, in fact, if you try to do either in isolation, you’ll get neither.

Germany’s Populist-Conservative AfD did well in regional elections – so well, in fact, that Germany’s other major parties (CDU, SPD and Greens) are thinking of a partnership with the German Communist Party (now called Linke, because “Communist” sounds bad). This is the mask fully dropping: all the parties were simply about who gets to slice the pie, not about what the pie shall be. And the Ruling Class in Germany – and around the West – wants the pie to be about open borders and only the Elite getting to decide what happens. We’re all in this together, folks: as goes AfD goes Brexit goes Trump. Either we all win, or we’ll all be destroyed.

John Hindraker is probably like most of us these days – watching what’s happening and figuring the Democrats are completely out of touch with reality. Of course, he also notes that he could be the guy out to lunch. We’ll all find out next November – but, I’m betting it is the Democrats who are busily alienating 60% of the electorate.

France’s Macron is offering a $15 billion bribe to Iran to keep it in the nuke deal – which we’re out of and Iran never had the faintest idea of abiding by. I don’t really understand this: is Macron that stupid, or does Iran just have so much dirt on Europe’s Ruling Class that they have to play ball?

South Dakota Democrat Party closes its last two offices for lack of funds. One down, forty nine to go…

50 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. JeremiahTMM September 3, 2019 / 10:03 pm

    We all need to investigate, and see who’s behind all the shootings this summer. These things are being funded and operated by someone. Whoever it is needs brought to Justice. It has to be someone in the Democrat party. They hate President Trump with all passion. And they hate America and our freedom. Investigate the Clinton’s, the Obama’s, Soros, right on down the Democrat party line.

    • Cluster September 4, 2019 / 9:48 am

      I am not one usually prone to conspiracy theories but I somewhat have to agree with you. These “mass shootings” and the coverage they receive in the media are beginning to fail the “smell test”. Why does the media care more about the victims in TX and OH more so than the weekly and far more numerous victims in Chicago and Baltimore? The media jumps on these stories and holds endless hours of discussion on “gun confiscation” and sowing fear and distrust. It just might possibly be orchestrated.

      • M. Noonan September 4, 2019 / 10:38 am

        Dunno about that – but this latest shooter was a complete farging nutjob whom the FBI knew all about…so, the question has now been asked: just what does the FBI actually do for a living?

      • Cluster September 4, 2019 / 2:12 pm

        Think about the number of criminals who used a gun in the commission of the crime who Obama pardoned, and the number of criminals who are constantly given plea bargain agreements from liberal prosecutors and judges. Here’s an article from 2016:

        Mr. Obama forgave scores of gun crimes convictions for the offenders, raising thorny questions about whether the White House is serious about keeping guns out of “the wrong hands” — a refrain of the Obama administration in the wake of mass shootings.

      • Amazona September 4, 2019 / 8:19 pm

        I don’t think the Clintons (no apostrophe for a plural) or the Obamas (ditto) have been funding any of this stuff. They are so self-absorbed it is hard to imagine any of them doing anything that would not make them richer or more famous.

        Soros, yes, kind of—– he has been in the business of destabilizing nations for years, been convicted of it, and this is his M.O. But these shooters are not funded, or paid for. They are the product of years/decades of cultural rot.

        When you have a culture in which life is not inherently sacred or valued but has value only based on the opinion of someone else (ie: abortion) after a few decades that concept has to have sunk in and been internalized. We mourn the lives overtly taken by abortion but we have to also mourn the foundational concept that human life is valuable and not to be taken lightly, as now its value can be decided depending on how it affects someone else. I don’t see admissions that the rise in child abuse is tied to abortion, but it seems obvious that if a child is disposable, of no value, up to a certain arbitrary age, a child a little older than that might also be of no inherent value. Abortion cheapens the value of life.

        Add to that the entitlement mentality and Participation Trophy generations, in which kids are brought up without discipline and to believe that anything they do is right, and special, just because they are doing it.

        Fold in violent video games in which kids from early ages are systematically taught that violence is fun, a game, and watching people get shot is cool and gets rewarded.

        Put all these cultural disasters together and factor in boys growing up without fathers, who have to invent their own concept of what it takes to be manly, often formed by video games and rap music and violent movies and TV shows, and you are likely to have a totally screwed-up young male with a shaky sense of self that he intuitively knows is shallow and superficial, who thinks he might feel strong and in control and relevant if he can impose his will on others.

        If there is any funding, it is indirect, in the form of undermining the very foundation of civilization.

  2. Retired Spook September 4, 2019 / 10:36 am

    Joe Biden has found a winning issue (sarc/off): just ban all firearm magazines that hold more than one round. YCMTSU!

    • M. Noonan September 4, 2019 / 10:40 am

      The San Francisco Board of Supervisors has just declared the NRA a domestic terrorist organization – leaving aside the absurdity, it shows that they are all-in on this: the Democrats are in favor of gun confiscation. Just more of their leftist fringe becoming their mainstream. Now, perhaps that is what Americans want…maybe they are so tired of Trump and hate him so much that they’ll turn us over to a bunch of Socialist nutjobs. So be it, if it comes out that way – but I suspect the vote in 2020 is going to show the Democrats gravely miscalculated the mood of the country.

    • Retired Spook September 4, 2019 / 3:51 pm

      For those who might read this site without commenting and are unfamiliar with firearm terms, a magazine, often erroneously called a clip, is by definition a device for holding multiple rounds. So Biden’s position would effectively ban all guns capable of holding more than one round except for revolvers which do not use a magazine. Two of the most popular .22 cal. small game rifles, the Marlin model 60 and the Ruger model 10/22 would become illegal.

    • JeremiahTMM September 4, 2019 / 11:12 pm

      The San Francisco “Board of Supervisors has just declared the NRA a domestic terrorist organization”

      Yeah, I saw that. I also heard something about the law they (newsom I guess that’s his last name) made a law to encourage people to deny help to police officers who are trying to apprehend someone, while the suspect is overpowering the officer. In effect this would put the law enforcement officer in danger.

      They’re trying to make it now where we are all in danger.

      No one should obey these Tyrants Piglosi and Nuisance-om.

      John Locke said it best – “resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.”

      Amen brother Locke! Oh how our Founding Fathers must be so ashamed at the state of America.

      • Amazona September 5, 2019 / 7:20 am

        I think it was Rush who pointed out that if the NRA is a terrorist organization then being member makes one a terrorist—therefore not able to buy a gun at all, as well as vulnerable to Draconian red flag laws.

  3. Retired Spook September 4, 2019 / 12:30 pm

    It might be fun to live blog this.

    CNN will host a seven-hour marathon of interviews with 10 presidential candidates about climate change on Wednesday beginning at 5 pm Eastern as part of its climate crisis town hall.

    • Cluster September 5, 2019 / 8:28 am

      I happened upon CNN last night and caught St Pete Buttigieg lecturing the crowd on “gender justice” …. I quickly changed the channel. Two minutes is all I could take.

  4. Cluster September 4, 2019 / 1:16 pm

    I am beginning to believe that larger Leftist forces are at play with the concerted effort of the “fundamental transforming” of America as originally promoted by Barack Obama in 2009. Think about Libya – what was the goal there? To over throw Ghaddafi?? He posed no imminent threat to anyone and in his absence, Libya has become a training ground for terrorists and a launching pad for migration to Europe. Think about the constant unrest in Central America, the Honduras coup and the migration to our borders. Think about the constant refrain of the threat of white nationalism throughout the liberal media when in reality it is a minute issue. Think about constant warnings of climate change and the dire warnings that have all been proven to be false, yet the warnings increase with intensity. Think about the absolute abdication of duty of our judges from imposing sentences on illegal immigrant criminals (Kate Steinle’s murderer is soon to be released) and think about the absolute refusal of Democrat in Congress to secure our borders. Think about the homeless problem and the refusal of Democrat politicians to address the problem. Think about the communist “social credit” program that Google is considering. Then think about our educational system and the product that that industry has turned out over the last 20 years.

    In my opinion, when this current mass shooting loses steam, there will be another one. There will also be more dire warnings of climate change whenever a storm or tornado pop up, there will be more cover up of illegal immigrant crime, the border will remain unsecured, and the intensity of all these issues will reach fever pitch by November 2020.

    I am not one to be conspiracy minded but when you start to put everything together …. it’s hard not too think there is something else at play.

    • Retired Spook September 4, 2019 / 2:55 pm

      There’s no question in my mind that money from people like Soros and Steyer is behind a lot of what you just outlined. The caravans of immigrants from Central America simply could not have traversed Mexico on foot without some big money paving the way. On the flip side, I believe there’s a good chance that there are some things going behind the scenes on our side that we don’t know about that will also have a significant impact on 2020.

  5. Cluster September 4, 2019 / 3:53 pm

    This is despicable:

    DEBRA KATZ: In the aftermath of these hearings, I believe that Christine’s testimony brought about more good than the harm misogynist Republicans caused by allowing Kavanaugh on the court. We’re gonna have a conservative. Elections have consequences.

    But he will always have an asterisk next to his name, When he takes a scalpel to Roe v. Wade, we will know who he is, we know his character, and we know what motivates him, and that is important; it is important that we know, and that is part of what motivated Christine.

    Blasey Ford is a fraud who should be charged with slander, prosecuted and imprisoned for what she did.

    • Amazona September 4, 2019 / 4:29 pm

      Was her testimony under oath? Then she committed perjury. Her lies were premeditated, complex, and of significant relevance to the proceedings. Scooter Libby’s perjury conviction was based on the fact that he had an imperfect memory of the precise time he learned of something he didn’t think was important, in a case where the questioning attorney already knew he was not guilty of the accusation (which was not a crime anyway) but proceeded to go after him BECAUSE OF HIS ASSOCIATION WITH A CONSERVATIVE.

      How often do we have to go through this, the blatant abuse of federal powers in persecuting people merely for being associated with powerful conservatives before there is some concentrated focused discussion of this on all conservative media?

  6. Cluster September 5, 2019 / 8:53 am

    Well Spook was right …. the CNN townhall was a gold mine in comedy and a great campaign ad for Republicans. Here’s one question posed to Bernie:

    CAROLINE COURSANT: Thank you. Climate change has been linked to agriculture and the overconsumption of red meat and also the overproduction of crops. Several countries have changed the dietary guidelines to reduce the consumption of red meat in light of the impact of the climate change. If elected, will you be supporting change in dietary guidelines? And then how will you plan on implementing the changes so people effectively change their diets?

    I wonder what Bernie has planned for our weekday menus?

    And here is another question from the lunatic audience and guess what Democrat agenda this question plays into???

    Good evening. Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years. The planet cannot sustain this growth. I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it’s crucial to face. Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature in a plan to address climate catastrophe?

    That’s right ….. ABORTION.

    Democrats just make shit up and we have to shut this down

    • Amazona September 5, 2019 / 9:09 am

      How about a GoFundMe drive to collect money to pay for sterilization of Democrats?

      Sign me up

      • Cluster September 5, 2019 / 9:35 am

        Where do I contribute?? And shouldn’t we be aborting cows? They pose such a danger to this world.

    • Amazona September 6, 2019 / 9:06 am

      Killing tiny babies who can’t defend themselves is SOOOOOO courageous!

      What about developing chemicals, which we could distribute through water or by spraying, that would kill the sexual urge and stop copulation? Isn’t going to the source of the problem usually the wisest way to deal with it? Let’s see Bernie, et al, come out in favor of chemical castration as a solution to the “problem” of overpopulation.

      Let’s float that in front of the party promoting mindless irresponsible hedonism and see how it goes over.

  7. Cluster September 5, 2019 / 9:00 am

    And here’s the question Wolf Blitzer opened the townhall with:

    This is an important evening for all of us. As you know, scientists already are telling us that we’re seeing the consequences of the climate crisis right now, but we’ll cross what’s seen as a massive tipping point, a massive tipping point if the world warms more than 1.5 degrees Celsius or 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit. We’ve already warmed up the planet one degree Celsius since the industrial revolution. We’re now more than halfway there. What would be your first step to address a crisis of this magnitude?

    A MASSIVE TIPPING POINT …. so everyone please open your refrigerators, open your doors and turn on your AC’s, let’s cool this planet down dammit.

    Julian Castro (what a perfect name for a Democrat) responded:

    What you’ve described is the most existential threat to our country’s future, and the U.N. has told us that we have about 12 years to get this right or the consequences could be catastrophic.

    Did you get that? The “UN has told us …”

    They are beholden to the global elite

    • Retired Spook September 5, 2019 / 10:21 am

      The warning of a tipping point in 12 years is an interesting change. Starting back in the 80’s the warnings were for 10 years. There have been so many people who have warned that we have 10 years before catastrophe strikes, that it’s sort of like the boy who cried wolf. The only thing that saves the Left from complete ridicule is that every 10 years there is a new crowd of young people who haven’t heard the warning before. Still, they’re closing in on 4 decades of these warnings. How many more decades before everyone just yawns and says, so what? My personal feeling is that, should these folks ever get complete control and actually implement the nitwit policies they are currently advocating, the pushback will be massive. The most logical end game is that technology will solve the problem of clean energy, there will be zero impact on global temperature and/or climate, and the Left will quietly move on to a new crisis. In the meantime they will have wasted enough money on “combatting” climate change to build a new, energy efficient house for every person on the planet.

  8. Cluster September 5, 2019 / 12:26 pm

    Let’s keep the Democrats talking about climate change … it’s the best GOP campaign ads ever.

    • Retired Spook September 5, 2019 / 12:42 pm

      Compare this NYT article about NASA’s James Hansen’s testimony before the U.S. Senate in 1988 to what was said last night on the CNN Townhall to see just how little effect the Left’s efforts to combat global warming have had.

      • Cluster September 5, 2019 / 3:23 pm

        The first sentence jumped out at me …

        The earth has been warmer in the first five months of this year than in any comparable period since measurements began 130 years ago,

        So we are making definitive conclusions about a planet that is a billion years old based on 130 years of data. Makes perfect sense.

      • Amazona September 5, 2019 / 3:23 pm

        Based on five months out of 130 years….

      • Retired Spook September 5, 2019 / 3:30 pm

        And, of course, the earth was blanketed with state-of-the-art temperature measurement stations in 1858 — NOT! And at the time Hansen made this statement, satellite temperature measurement was 9 years old.

      • Amazona September 6, 2019 / 9:00 am

        Spook, I have started to use your observation that we don’t even know what the “right” temperature IS. I add to it sometimes by pointing out that the only way out of an Ice Age is to get warmer, but what if we haven’t yet gotten warm ENOUGH? That is, back to whatever the ideal temperature of the Earth should be? What if if is the tropical temperature that allowed the Earth to be populated mostly by reptiles? Should we try to interfere with a natural process of warming, the same process that has been the recovery from every Ice Age?

  9. Cluster September 5, 2019 / 12:49 pm

    Bernie Sanders at CNN’s “Climate CRISIS” said he wants to kill babies in other countries too:

    “And the Mexico City agreement — which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control — to me is totally absurd,” he continued. “So, I think, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, it’s something I very strongly support.”

    These Democrat POTUS candidates are so uplifting and inspirational aren’t they? /sarc

  10. Retired Spook September 5, 2019 / 2:46 pm

    Another great example of how Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    Scientist Says Eating Human Flesh Will Save Planet From Climate Change. A Swedish scientist suggests that it may be necessary to turn to cannibalism and start eating human flesh to save the planet (giving new meaning to the expression bite me) And NO this story is not from The Onion.A conference about the food of the future called Gastro Summit being held in Stockholm Sweden featured a presentation by Magnus Söderlund claiming that we must get used to the idea of eating human flesh in the future, as a way of combating the effects of climate change.


    • Amazona September 5, 2019 / 3:25 pm

      Which is why I have referred to AOC’s brain child as the New Soylent Green Deal…….

  11. JeremiahTMM September 5, 2019 / 9:29 pm

    Democrats are weaponizing “climate change” in order to scare people into voting for a Tyrant. They can’t win on hope, so they plant fear into the hearts and minds of the people, and thus herd people into the voting booth for a tyrant, and then herd them further onto cattle cars to the death camps.

    • Amazona September 6, 2019 / 8:56 am

      When we (accurately) say that the Left is based on emotion, we should identify the emotions. They are fear, hate, anger (fury, rage) and resentment, for the most part. For the American Left, there is the emotion of wanting to feel virtuous and relevant, but their intellectual and moral laziness lead them to believe this can be accomplished either by merely taking a public stand supporting something considered noble or charitable (I DON’T THINK CHILDREN SHOULD STARVE !!) or by supporting a collective that confiscates the property of some to redistribute to others in the name of charity or kindness or fairness.

  12. JeremiahTMM September 5, 2019 / 9:33 pm

    Y’all should listen to this little lady’s testimony she gave about surviving Auschwitz. It’s unbelievable what they went through. It was a “living Hell.”

    • Amazona September 5, 2019 / 11:12 pm

      Unlike the American version of a concentration camp, she couldn’t just say “I’ve decided to go back home” and walk out the gate.

    • Cluster September 6, 2019 / 9:04 am

      Very good article:

      President John F. Kennedy said, “the enemy of the truth is not the lie, but the myth.”

      Wow, how profound and spot on. How many of the Democrats pet issues are simply “myths” …. answer, almost all of them

      The companies that once offered goods and services in Venezuela disappeared, and this resulted in the rise of unemployment and prices. The government responded by imposing price caps to stop inflation

      Typical socialist response – instead of opening up market competition, they impose more controls.

      Economic development, understood as the growth of a nation’s living standard, is the result of people’s freely chasing their dreams and finding ways to use their resources to achieve it.

      Exactly, people interacting in a free market exchanging goods and services and increasing the “velocity of money” in an expansive and diverse market place. The only thing Government can do is to impose controls and slow down the velocity of money and limit the market place.

      It’s not a difficult concept to understand.

    • Retired Spook September 6, 2019 / 1:36 pm

      Excellent article! I sent the link to my grand-son-in-law with the admonition that it will be up to his generation to see that the same thing doesn’t happen to the United States. My daughters’ generation is already a lost cause. My heart breaks to even contemplate that there are people in this country that believe the only reason Venezuela failed is that the right people weren’t in charge, and that there is at least a slim chance that the same experiment will be tried here — with the same result only a much higher death toll.

  13. Cluster September 6, 2019 / 8:51 am

    So it seems the Obama’a don’t always “go hi. when their opponents go low”

    “The Obamas have known for almost a year that their Higher Ground trademark application was rejected by the USPTO because it infringed my client’s rights,” says Zerner. “Instead, of simply picking another name, the Obamas’ lawyers have now filed a meritless petition to cancel my client’s trademark so they can take it for themselves. This is really deplorable behavior. I hope that the Obamas realize that these actions are not consistent with the values they preach and that they instruct their attorneys to immediately dismiss the petition.”

    I am shocked that a Democrats words don’t match their actions /sarc

  14. Cluster September 6, 2019 / 9:20 am

    AAANNNNDDDD here we have another example of why government control and socialism is bad. Pay attention kids (Casper, RG, simon)

    Previously, the government guaranteed student loans that borrowers took out from private lenders. Today, it controls more than 90% directly.

    When the Obama administration “got rid of the guarantee program with the private sector out of the process and made it a direct federal loan, they got rid of all underwriting,” Holtz-Eakin noted.

    “And so they recreated the worst aspects of the subprime mortgage lending crisis,” he stated. “They gave anyone who walked up a loan, without any notion of their capacity to repay.”

    When the Government eliminates natural market forces (Think: Venezuela), and impose controls based on agendas … things go awry. You can legislate the market, but you can not legislate human nature. So what happens when the government eliminates the risk that natural markets are adverse too? Programs take on more risk than the market can handle and become a liability to the tax payer and the countries economic health. And we have seen this dynamic play out time and time and time again, yet our millennial socialists STILL DON”T GET IT

  15. Cluster September 6, 2019 / 10:37 am

    Bernie Sanders co campaign chair Nina Turner:

    If Mother Earth is not worth saving, none of that matters, we want to talk about employment, businesses, every other thing, Hallie, the bottom line, every other thing we care about and talk about is for naught if we do not change course. The scientists have made it very clear, we have about 12 years left or Mother Earth will sustain damage that we cannot come back from, so no other issue matters unless we save Mother Earth”

    Got that? Nothing else matters if Democrats are not allowed to “save the planet”. Now mind you, none of them can even effectively govern a large municipality, but they are convinced they can save the planet.

    This is called “failing upwards”. Ask Valerie Jarret. She is the Queen of “failing upwards”.

    • Retired Spook September 6, 2019 / 10:51 am

      Quote of the Day: (sorry for the repeat, but the timing just seemed right)

      “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” – H L Mencken

  16. Retired Spook September 6, 2019 / 10:57 am

    Anyone else here get the sense that this current crop of democrats is engaged in mass ignorance of “the Rule of Holes”? The only other explanation is that the things they’re promising, particularly WRT climate change, actually do appeal to the majority of voters. If that turns out to be the case, then we might as well kiss the greatest experiment in self government in history goodbye.

  17. Cluster September 7, 2019 / 10:02 am

    YES …

    During an interview on Friday’s “Outnumbered Overtime,” Senate Judiciary Committee member Tom Tillis (R-NC) said he believed it was “worth looking into” Christine Blasey Ford’s sexual assault allegations against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

    Investigate every single one of them including Diane Feinstein, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and all the rest. What did they know? And are there slander charges to be considered. Let’s do this.

    • Amazona September 7, 2019 / 3:57 pm

      We know of three proven examples of perjury by Ford—-just off the top of my head:

      She lied when she said she had not been coached on how to take or deceive a polygraph.

      She lied when she said the “attack” made her so claustrophobic she couldn’t fly so had to drive from California to DC to testify

      She lied when she said she was so panicky about future attacks that she had to install a second door in her house.

      We have to remember that Scooter Libby’s “perjury” was that he couldn’t specifically remember the exact, precise, date he learned that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA—though he explained that he didn’t pay much attention at the time because he didn’t think it was important. He thought it might have been one date, then after testifying about other things that jogged his memory said no, it was probably closer to a slightly different date. And IT DIDN’T MATTER because the persecutor already know Libby hadn’t done what he was accused of doing anyway.

      And no, “persecutor” is not a typo.

    • Retired Spook September 8, 2019 / 9:25 am

      Jeremiah, can you imagine the blowback if, say, someone like Joe Biden became President and issued an EO banning any firearm that holds more than 1 bullet? If it weren’t such a serious subject, it would be laughable.

      Our adversaries (no, they’re not our friends) on the Left love to talk about “common sense” gun laws. If they were truly interested in “common sense” they would examine what mass shootings (which only account for about 1 – 2% of gun homicides) and see what they have in common, and then gear solutions around those commonalities. The vast majority of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones. How about we ban gun -free zones for starters. Nearly 100% of mass shootings are committed by men (no, we can’t ban men — sorry feminists), mostly young men who grew up without a father and were on or just recently got off of psychotropic drugs. Many, if not most bragged about what they were gong to do, either to friends or on social media. The only proposed laws that deal with these factors are red flag laws, and, unless those are formulated in such a way as to allow due process and legal recourse against false accusations, they are, indeed, a slippery slope.

      The candidates for the Democrat nomination for President have all made wild and unconsitutional proposals to curb gun violence, non of which would have any effect on mass shootings or gun homicides in general and none of which have a chance of a snow ball in hell of becoming law. The GOP 2020 campaign ads practically write themselves.

      • Retired Spook September 8, 2019 / 10:01 am

        Just focusing on the “evil” AR-15 sporting rifle shows the futility of the Left’s demands that they be banned and that high capacity magazines be banned. There are around 8 million privately owned AR-15’s in the U.S., and sales are around a million a year. Any attempt at a ban will result in sales doubling or tripling. Barack Obama was the greatest gun salesman who ever lived. I couldn’t find any reliable statistics on the number of 30 round (standard capacity for an AR-15, but what the Left refers to as “high capacity,” but it’s not unreasonable to assume that every AR-15 owner has at least 4 (I know guys who have 30 or 40). Say the average is 8, making 64 million 30 round magazines. That doesn’t even count the number of 30 round magazines for AK-47’s or the number of 13 – 18 round magazines that come standard with virtually every full-size or compact semi-automatic handgun. And the trend is for smaller guns to have larger magazines. Sig Sauer has a new 9mm micro-compact pistol, the P365, that fits in your pocket and comes with a 10 round magazine with a 12 round optional. The logistics of banning something that is in such widespread use, 99% of which are owned by law-abiding citizens, is staggering.

      • JeremiahTMM September 8, 2019 / 7:15 pm

        If Joe became President and done that, it would be the awfullest thing in history. We are only free in America because we have the right to bear arms. And what most people on the he Left don’t realize is that that right is non-negotiable. We have learned from history the mistakes of those who made them in the past. I can’t remember what someone said one time but it goes with that, something about one eye on the past, and one on the future…and both eyes closed to the past, he is blind and has no way of telling how or which way to go in the future.

        The Left are very dangerous people. They are the enemies of the United States, the enemies of liberty, and the enemy of life. Just look at Bernie Sanders who is 100% for global infanticide as a means to “save” the Earth from “climate change.”

        The Left’s agenda has all the earmarks of Hitler’s Germany.
        I mean to a T.

        The Left uses tragedy to their advantage, and they do it quite well. They even create tragedies to feed their hunger for power. Which is a bottomless pit.
        They strategize these tragedies by creating, or using a racial preference, or favor. Putting a lot of attention on the shootings done by white males, and turning a blind eye to the black genocide happening in Chicago every night. You ever notice that? You never hear anything about the mass shootings in Chicago every day on the national news. And they have the strictest gun laws in the nation.

        How much do they think they will stop gun violence if they make everyone criminals? They suspect everyone as a criminal in Chicago, but they fail to stop the shooting. They can’t do it. There’s too many guns.

        If a Lefty were to become President, and ban all munitions, and firearms that holds more than one bullet, I wouldn’t be able to have a gun. But I can say with confidence that I will not ever up my guns without a fight. I will die before they take them. That’s a promise. They’ll have to kill me. And I’m sure they will, because I don’t have the kind of high tech weaponry that they have. If they come to my house, they can leave the same way they came, and asong as they do that, they’re won’t be any trouble.

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