A Century-Long Mistake

I’ve been thinking a lot lately about how things are and how we got here – and I think I’ve identified the date when we went off course: September 14th, 1901. The day William McKinley died, a few days after being shot.

Take a look at this last address, made shortly before he was shot – do read the whole thing, but the bit that stands out for me is how he talks at length about the growing inter-dependence of the world while also asserting that our fair trade relations must never be done at the expense of our home production. Get it? We must trade, but we must never harm ourselves in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. This is the sort of speech we got when the President and Congress were trying to serve the interests of the American people – and they were doing what they did out in the open, debating it in public, and working strictly within the Constitutional confines of our government.

People don’t think much of McKinley and even someone as versed in history as I am only have a slight bit of knowledge about him – from a prosperous Ohio family; Civil War service, law, politics and the rise to the top. He is portrayed as unimaginative; plodding. He is entirely overshadowed by the man who succeeded him, Theodore Roosevelt, who is always cast in heroic terms…taking over and reinvigorating the American government. But I think we can see now, at long remove, that having a vigorous American government isn’t an unalloyed benefit. With a slight hiccup under Coolidge in the 1920’s, since McKinley we’ve seen the atrophy of Congressional power; an increasingly Imperial Presidency and the massive expansion of government control – and, over the long term, the imposition of policies which are overtly destructive of the United States.

Theodore Roosevelt came in and had his famous assertion that if the law doesn’t specifically prohibit a President from doing a thing, then the thing can be done. It was a gigantic shift: it started the process of having our system being that of a government with strictly enumerated powers to having a government doing whatever it can get away with. Wilson and FDR just put that attitude on steroids – so much so that even a limited government man like Reagan still blithely exercised powers that Presidents up to McKinley would never dreamed of exercising. But a government without limits is a government which not only can do anything, it will do anything – and as it will still be a government run by human beings, it will almost certainly end up doing whatever those with the most influence demand. And therein lies our problem.

Realize that today – right now – there are people, right and left, who are demanding that Trump essentially go to war with Turkey because they think it wrong that the Turks are going after the Kurds. Maybe the Turks are wrong; but if the Turks are wrong, then it isn’t for the President to decide if we fight them…or, at least, it isn’t supposed to be the President who decides if we fight: it is supposed to be Congress, which will debate a declaration of war and then vote on it…and if approved, we go to war. But, we’re so far down this road that most don’t even see that – they are so used, that is, to the government just doing things that they are demanding it just do something in Syria. And do something about climate change. And trans people. And illegal immigrants. And so on and on and on.

And think about what we’ve got: a gigantic system of treaties, alliances, agreements, laws, regulations and such which authorize this, that or the other thing and none of it is fully known, hardly any of it was really debated…and it is all in the service of doing something, nobody really knows what…but if we don’t keep things just as they are, disaster will result. Or, so we’re told.

I asserted some while back that President Trump is the most law-abiding President we’ve had since Coolidge: and I’m sure I’m right about that. I do not say the most morally excellent President – first off, I can’t peer into souls and so I’m unable to judge the status of President Trump’s; secondly, because it is irrelevant to whether or not the President obeys the law. And Trump obeys the law. The proof of that is that after years of relentlessly being investigated (often by entirely illegal means) they still haven’t found a crime they can hang around his neck. Hardly anyone could survive that scrutiny…but, Trump has. And if you look at what he says and does, he’s always acting within the law and asking Congress to codify things into law. He isn’t President Pen and Phone. I don’t know if this lawfulness is the result of deep thought on the part of the President or mere instinct – but regardless, Trump has hit upon the first requirement of liberty: adherence to law. That we can only do, via government, what the law says we can do – no more, no less and if you don’t like it, change the law via lawful means.

It is my view that a Republic must strictly enforce its laws – and because of this, the laws must be few and easy to understand; and the government must not attempt to manage the lives of the people because doing so requires a multiplicity of laws, each of which will merely increase government power along with the ability to abuse that power. We cannot, willy nilly, go back to 1901 – but we must go back to it as much as we can, and the first step is to start enforcing all the laws. The laws against illegal entry. The laws against government malfeasance. So on and so forth: it doesn’t matter if they are good or bad laws: if they are on the books, they must be strictly enforced. And it is the strict enforcement of bad laws which will ensure their repeal or modification – keeping in mind that a host of laws are on the books which routinely trip up regular folks and they are kept because they aren’t allowed to trip up the Ruling Class…start having people like Hillary going to jail like a poor swabby who took a wrong picture and all of a sudden our Rulers will be less interested in keeping laws like that on the books.

The next part of a restoration should be, in my view, a disentangling of the United States from the world. We can be an Empire or a Republic: we can’t be both. NATO has to go. The UN has to go. Free Trade has to go – I am going to write up about what McKinley was talking up: Trade Reciprocity, which I think that Trump is on about. I want us to trade with the world – but only in ways that are mutually beneficial. Bring our boys and girls back home. Maintain a second-to-none military force in being. Advise the world that an attack upon the United States is a suicidal act – and then destroy the first nation which tests us on it. If we have alliances, they are to be temporary and serving a particular national goal. No more CIA. No more NSA. No more FBI. Relations with tyrannical States to be kept to a minimum (tyranny and liberty cannot really coexist).

It is time – past time – that we gave up the goals of those who don’t have our interests at heart. This is our country – it is made by us and for us. It is not a world police, nor a dumping ground for the world’s refuse. It is a place where free people debate among themselves and decide via law what course to follow. It is time, that is, for America to be America.

49 thoughts on “A Century-Long Mistake

  1. Retired Spook October 13, 2019 / 9:29 pm

    There is an individual desire by people like me to undo the damage done by Progressives over the last century, but I don’t believe there is a collective desire by enough driven and motivated Conservatives to begin the long hard slog of taking back the education system and the media, which is the only way we will reverse the damage by peaceful means. Whether or not there is enough courage to actually fight the Left in a violent confrontation all depends on the Left, because it is they who will most likely initiate violence. My personal feeling is that the Left continues to completely misread the mood of the majority of Americans, and my sense is that the spirit of liberty is so ingrained in the American psyche that we will never allow a totalitarian government to take hold, but we won’t really know until those freedom loving Americans are put to the test.

    • jdge1 October 14, 2019 / 11:45 pm

      I believe there are so many things happening behind the scenes that it’s hard to know what lies in front of us, how to anticipate it and therefore, how to prepare or react to it. Without a doubt the left is pulling out all stops to do what they can to prevent President Trump from being reelected. In their hopes, it would be better to have him removed from office, thereby weakening the opposition party, even it meant another republican would be president (unless they can find a way to knock off both the President and Vice President at the same time). On the other hand, I strongly believe that there are a number of individuals, including the President, and agencies working diligently to spear the left to expose much of the lies, deceit and destruction they’ve been a part of and perpetrated on the American people. What I’m not sure of is, the timing of the lawsuits, indictments, jailing and ripping away the curtain, or how it will play out. Are they waiting until after elections? Are they hoping to first regain congress and/or strengthen the senate? Are they waiting to gain another US Supreme Court Justice? Or are they simply waiting until they’ve gathered irrefutable, damaging proof they feel needed for full impact of the take down?

      I just don’t see where we can continue on the current path without a major fracturing of our country, even more so than we already have. The left is doing all they can to take down a duly elected President. And they are utilizing every mean they can, even if it’s illegal, as can be readily seen happen over the past 3 years. Without a major pushback taking down many of the major players in this act of treason, it will only embolden them to continue until they have the power they seek, which is a vast control over all citizens. If it comes to that we will be on the verge of tyranny and major bloodshed.

      Also, the pushes we are seeing from the left are happening all across the world, not just the US. The Catholic church is facing a crisis and its leadership seems intent on adding to her downfall. Other religions are facing a similar tearing of their fabric. Many countries that at one time enjoyed prosperity are now facing devastation due to entrenched socialist governments or destructive militaries. Certain companies have gained so much power and influence they are attempting a blatant power grab to force changes against the very people who utilize their services or products.

      So how do we battle against the prevalent evils that we face? How do we turn the oncoming avalanche away from its destructive path? I think history is clear, this will not happen without bloodshed. The conflict is just far too large and the stakes too great where neither side will walk away or surrender without a fight. The question is will it be isolated or widespread and engulf the world? Will it be quick and decisive or will it ensnare multiple generations? Will the fallout be minimal or will it forever change the world as we know it? Who can predict?

      Fortunately, there are far greater powers at play here, powers that too few of us recognize until they’ve already been put into action. Those powers come from the Lord our God who is diligently watching over us. Sometimes we go through life thinking, “We can’t sit back and wait for the Lord to act”, but that certainly doesn’t mean we should forget the power of prayer and how quickly and dramatically things can change when God chooses to move. I’d like to think I stand ready to act in defense against evil, but with evil happening everyday all around us, what does it really mean to “stand ready”? What trigger would propel and individual or the masses into some form of action beyond voting and hoping for change? I’m not sure I can answer that. What I can be sure of is that daily prayer is far more powerful that anything else I could do as an individual.

      • Retired Spook October 15, 2019 / 9:34 am

        I think history is clear, this will not happen without bloodshed. The conflict is just far too large and the stakes too great where neither side will walk away or surrender without a fight. The question is will it be isolated or widespread and engulf the world? Will it be quick and decisive or will it ensnare multiple generations? Will the fallout be minimal or will it forever change the world as we know it?

        JD, I do believe there will be areas of the world where there will be a great deal of bloodshed. Maybe I’m just a glass-half-full, naive old fool, but I don’t see America playing out that way. We are the only major country in the world where a plurality of the population is armed. And, while only a third of the population owns firearms, they own enough firearms to arm another third. On the flip side, the people in this country that might desire to take control by force have neither the courage nor the means to do so. The vast majority of those in the military and law enforcement will not side with them, because, unlike most politicians, most in the military and LE take their constitutional oath seriously.

        Leftist revolutions in the past, like the Soviet Union, for example, relied on young, useful idiots to be used as cannon fodder. But the Left in this country, through its control of the education system, has indoctrinated a couple generations of snowflakes who are afraid of offensive words and who have been taught that guns are evil. Not a good combination if you intend to use them to take over the country.

        Who can predict?

        Where is that functioning crystal ball when you need it? The only thing I will predict is that, should a Leftist government ever manage to get elected here and begin eliminating unalienable rights, they will wish the hadn’t. There may not be as many patriots in my childrens’ and their childrens’ generations, but there are enough. And, should it come to it, I believe many who don’t necessarily think of themselves as patriots will step up and risk all in the name of liberty. It’s been a dozen generations since anyone in America lived under tyranny. The desire for liberty is so ingrained in the American psyche, it will not easily be extinguished.

    • M. Noonan October 15, 2019 / 3:48 pm

      It is a long road back – but it is also so simple that I think we can make the case to the people fairly easy. Like the linked speech – what was McKinley saying, when you boiled it down? That if we trade – and we must – then our trading partners should be buying from us in roughly equal amounts that we buy from them. Trade Reciprocity. Once you think about it for a moment, it becomes a “no, duh” moment. It was never bad that we were importing buckets of oil from the Middle East…what was bad was the importation of those buckets of oil without our Middle East trading partners buying a roughly equal amount of our goods in return. Nor is it entirely bad to import stuff from China in purely economic terms (political and military factors laid aside for a moment): but if they weren’t buying from us somewhere along the lines of what we were buying from them, it became an unequal transaction with us as the losers. It is so entirely common sense – and it takes a Globalist Expert who doesn’t care about the United States to come up with an argument against it. And so it goes with all the issues right down the line – all we have to do is, like Trump, fight for it.

  2. R. Murphy October 14, 2019 / 8:33 am

    Save he specifically refuted that when asked directly.

    Other than that ..,

  3. Cluster October 14, 2019 / 9:17 am

    Well things aren’t going well …

    House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff said on Sunday that there does not need to be a quid pro quo to impeach President Trump.

    Looks like they finally realized that the “quid pro quo” angle wasn’t working so time to move the goal posts:

    “We’re keeping our focus right now on the president’s coercion of an ally, that is Ukraine, to create this sham investigations into his political opponent,” he told CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “We have discovered in very short order not only the contents of that call but also the preparatory work that went into that call. The effort to condition something the Ukrainian president deeply sought, that is, a meeting with the president, to establish this new president to the Ukraine had a powerful patron in the United States that was vital importance to Ukraine, that was being conditioned as digging up dirt on the Bidens.”

    Schiff “discovered” the contents of the call because the White House released the transcript, and I had to laugh at the line “preparatory work” … sure sounds ominous doesn’t it? It seems though that Schiff is speaking to a May 2018 letter written to Ukraine threatening them not to drop the investigations into Trump and Manafort and imploring the Ukraine government to continue their investigations in their political opponents. Can you imagine the preparatory work put into this letter?

    https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/5-4-18%20Menendez%20joint%20letter%20to%20General%20Prosecutor%20of%20Ukraine%20on%20Mueller%20investigation.pdf

    • Amazona October 14, 2019 / 10:18 am

      What continues to crack me up is the inadvertent admission by the Dems that any investigation into the Bidens will, inevitably, “dig up dirt” on them

      Look at the contrast: Trump, when threatened with investigations, says “Go for it. There’s nothing there to find, but if you want to investigate, investigate.” Biden defenders say “Encouraging an investigation is wrong because if they do they will ‘dig up dirt’ “.

      Another difference: The investigation in Ukraine never had a specific goal. It was always stated as a mere investigation into what went on, not as a directed investigation with a predetermined outcome. On the other hand, the Mueller “investigation” was always a directed investigation, with the specific goal of finding President Trump guilty of “colluding with Russia”—-a directive which had to shift direction as time went on and its stated goal was impossible, but every shift in direction had its own predetermined goal and agenda.

      A true investigation is merely an examination of facts, and it goes where the facts take it. That is all I ever heard about any reference to any investigation in Ukraine, about Burisma or the Bidens or anything else. But the Dems seem to feel confident. or terrified, that any true investigation in Ukraine that goes where the facts take it will inevitably lead to a lot of dirt on the Bidens.

      Any time an investigation is mounted to provide some kind of support for a predetermined outcome, it is not a true investigation. It is, as Trump said, a mere witch hunt. Because this is the M. O. of the Dems, they seem to be projecting that kind of distortion of investigative powers onto everyone else.

      • Cluster October 14, 2019 / 10:29 am

        Great perspective … that’s exactly what’s going on. And why is Hunter resigning from the board of the Chinese Co.?? Doesn’t make sense if in fact every “investigation” into that arrangement found no improprieties.

  4. Retired Spook October 14, 2019 / 1:30 pm

    Quote of the Day:

    “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell

    • Cluster October 14, 2019 / 4:36 pm

      Those who control the language, controls the narrative.

    • Amazona October 14, 2019 / 6:31 pm

      My own contribution to “quote of the day”:

      “[beware that] “many of what are called social problems are differences between the theories of intellectuals and the realities of the world—differences which many intellectuals interpret to mean that it is the real world that is wrong and needs changing.”

      ― Thomas Sowell, Intellectuals and Society

  5. Cluster October 14, 2019 / 4:47 pm

    I had to laugh at this headline:

    Fox News staffers warn Shepard Smith’s departure may have drastic consequences: ‘Don’t be surprised if there’s an exodus’

    Who the f**k cares? And do these people really think they are irreplaceable? There are just over 300 million people in this country and I would wager to say there are approx. 10 million who could fill in for any one of the Fox anchors and do pretty well. In fact it would be a fresh perspective.

    • Amazona October 14, 2019 / 4:55 pm

      News of an exodus of Fox staffers would make the stock prices soar. The current staff have plunged it into a death spiral. We don’t need CNN Lite.

      And just who would be leaving? None of the true conservatives, that’s for sure. These people (probably Shep’s family, as no one else thinks he is special) seem to think he is so popular, such a leader at Fox, that people just won’t be able to stand working there without him.

      • Cluster October 14, 2019 / 5:20 pm

        It’s a mentality that is pervasive throughout Washington DC and it’s not good. All of these media pundits and “foreign policy experts” have all been around now for nearly 20 years and seem to think that any attack on them is an attack on our “democracy”. The bottom line is that all of them have been wrong on many occasions and there is never any accountability ever. It’s hard to take any of them seriously anymore.

      • Cluster October 14, 2019 / 5:39 pm

        Case in point – the doctored video of Trump slaying the media in the church which I guess is the beginning of some movie. Well the media was just fine with the violence in the movie but now that they are depicted as the victims … IT’S AN OUTRAGE

      • Amazona October 14, 2019 / 6:01 pm

        Now, now, Cluster. Just give them time to figure out some crime they can claim was “incited” by this video. Though it will be tough to find something as dramatic as the riots in Benghazi…

  6. Amazona October 14, 2019 / 5:59 pm

    Sometimes Fake News is just laugh-out-loud funny. Such as:

    In the rush to report on the consequences of the president’s decision, which goes to fulfilling a Trump campaign promise of ending the conflicts in the Middle East, ABC News aired a video on Sunday that the network said depicted a Turkish attack in northern Syria against Kurdish civilians.
    The footage depicts furious firepower and massive explosions.

    The only problem is that the shocking footage shown appears to be pulled from a 2017 YouTube video of a military gun demonstration in Kentucky.

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/10/14/abc-news-regrets-using-fake-video-of-kurdish-civilians-being-slaughtered-that-was-really-a-gun-range-in-kentucky

    I think ABC is trying to do a Roseanne Roseannadanna thing here: “Never mind…”

    • Cluster October 14, 2019 / 6:16 pm

      I just saw that report and it’s a testament to how sloppy our media is. They don’t vet anything anymore it’s just a rush to have “breaking news” and they have no reason to worry because no one is ever held accountable. They are a danger to this country.

      • Amazona October 14, 2019 / 6:28 pm

        If it had been a video of an actual attack and firefight but just in another country, or in another year, I might be able to nod in agreement with “sloppy”. But a 2-year-old promotional video about an organized gun range event in KENTUCKY !!??

        All I can say, find the guy who gave them that vldeo and buy him a drink.

      • Cluster October 14, 2019 / 6:37 pm

        LOL

  7. Amazona October 14, 2019 / 7:30 pm

    Evidently ABC thinks that they issue tickets to firefights and genocide in Syria—how else to explain the large audience watching this show? Check it out, starting at about :28 in the video. It looked like a symphony audience, all seated in their chairs in the high-dollar seats. I’ll be they served adult beverages (Knob Creek, perhaps?) and maybe snacks. Helluva way to run a war, Turkey!

  8. Retired Spook October 14, 2019 / 11:35 pm

    Looks like CNN has its own whistle blower.

    Sadly, he only confirms what we already knew.

    • Cluster October 15, 2019 / 10:10 am

      I watched his interview on Tucker last night and he paints a very top down authoritarian picture of CNN. Do what you’re told, or be relegated to journalism purgatory. On CNN it’s impeachment first and every other story a distant second.

  9. Cluster October 15, 2019 / 9:11 am

    So I think we can assume that John Bolton is behind the whistle blower complaint as he has now been implicated in the most recent testimony from NSC staffer that Schiff hauled up to the hill to try and get dirt on Trump. Bolton is a deep state ally and we all had suspicions of where his loyalties were, but now we know. His loyalties lie with the Military Industrial Complex who is not happy with Trump. The problem though is the staffers testimony blew a hole through Schiff’s primary allegations:

    Her testimony did not establish a quid pro quo between the suspended aid and Mr. Trump’s pressure for investigations, according to the person. But she confirmed that the administration leveraged a coveted White House invitation for Mr. Zelensky to a commitment to investigate corruption, which was seen as code for investigating Democrats.

    Why is “investigating corruption” code for investigating Democrats?? That’s kind of a revealing statement isn’t it? I thought Democrats loved investigations into corruption so it’s really curious why this investigation has them so angry.

    I have t say that I think Trump could be the legally cleanest person in America. Who else could survive 3 years of investigations into every aspect of their life and live to tell about it? I know I probably couldn’t.

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/10/15/bolton-next-big-witness-ukraine-gate/

    • Amazona October 15, 2019 / 9:39 am

      “She confirmed” is the spin put on whatever it was she said, not a quotation from her.
      If Bolton is behind this or involved in any way i will be deeply disappointed in him. I have been a Bolton fan for many years now and have had the highest regard for him.

      If he is behind this it means I was wrong both about his character and his intelligence.

      • Cluster October 15, 2019 / 10:14 am

        I think we’re learning a lot about how our government and the people at the top have operated over the last 30+ years and it hasn’t been to the benefit of the American people that is for sure.

      • Retired Spook October 15, 2019 / 11:02 am

        If Bolton is behind this or involved in any way i will be deeply disappointed in him.

        Me too. But we were wrong about Romney, so nothing surprises me any more. The globalist mindset is similar to that of many union members — like an impenetrable shell.

  10. Cluster October 15, 2019 / 9:36 am

    So Rand Paul is promoting his new book “The Case Against Socialism” on all media outlets and if you haven’t heard him make his case … make time to do so.

    Rand just owned Stephanie Ruhle on MSNBC

  11. Retired Spook October 15, 2019 / 12:00 pm

    That was positively shocking. I’ve never heard anyone on Fox say anything negative about trump before//sarc off. I guess you’d like us to say, “well, that’s it — we’re not going to vote for Trump next year.” Not a chance, Fielding — piss off.

  12. Cluster October 15, 2019 / 1:07 pm

    It’s called draining the swamp … and Cavuto is an entrenched member of financial establishment swamp hence his issues with Trump.

    People are finally showing their true colors and it’s a beautiful thing.

    • Retired Spook October 15, 2019 / 1:31 pm

      I do have to chuckle at the Lefties who say that we who support Trump are neither Conservatives nor patriots. That’s kind of like saying that the demonstrators waving American flags in Hong Cong aren’t really interested in freedom.

      • Cluster October 15, 2019 / 3:12 pm

        “It’s not a trick question” hahahahahahaha

        OOOOOOHHHH be careful Spook. Don’t want to fall for those “trick questions”

        What a loser

      • Retired Spook October 15, 2019 / 3:45 pm

        So a question for you is, is there anything Trump could do that would cause you drop your support of him?

        Yeah, if he switched parties I’d have a hard time supporting him.

      • M. Noonan October 15, 2019 / 3:56 pm

        If he started doing wrong things – your trouble is that you believe what the MSM (a mere arm of the DNC) tells you about Trump. You think they aren’t part of a con. But, something to think about: yesterday, NBC tried to pass off a live fire exercise from Kentucky as video footage of Turkey’s invasion of Syria. That presentation went through layers of people before it appeared on screen – so, it wasn’t a mistake: it was deliberate. What they were trying to do is make out the the Turkish invasion is a horror story but they lacked any evidence that it is – so they made it up. They got caught, but you’re not going to find the MSM covering that aspect of it much. But, now you know – for certain, without the slightest possible doubt – that the MSM will, indeed, just make sh** up if they need it to serve the DNC Narrative.

        So, a question for you is: why do you believe what they say about Trump?

        Once you make that slight shift of view – once, that is, you stop believing these people, the whole world of possibility will open up for you. There are liberals who are waking up to this, by the way. They are remaining liberals. They remain firmly opposed to Trump – but they aren’t buying the con any longer. They see it for what it is: a desperate ploy by a Ruling Class determined to snuff out a rebellion.

      • Amazona October 15, 2019 / 8:50 pm

        I always get back to the question nobody ever asks liberals, or Liberals. That is, “why are you a liberal?”

        I guarantee you will not get a response that has anything to do with an analysis of the best blueprint for governing the nation. Or any nation. Or any blueprint.

        It will be something like “Because I am a good person, and the opposition is made up of people who are not good people, who are “racist homophobic pro-Trump pro-wall white supremacist conspiracy theory nutjobs”. I am better than they are.”

      • Amazona October 15, 2019 / 8:54 pm

        Heard a White House spokeswoman on the radio today. How many American military personnel were pulled out of Syria? A dozen or so. Why? The Turks were planning a raid and they were in harm’s way. Would their presence have halted the Turks? Probably not. Did Trump “greenlight” a Turkish invasion? Emphatically not, in fact he was adamant in his conversations with Turkey that we would object strongly and with serious sanctions if they invaded.

        I am so tired of the Leftist BS I now just assume that anything that comes out of the Left is a lie, is a toxic lie, is a lie designed to harm not only conservative people but the fabric of our government.

      • Cluster October 15, 2019 / 4:10 pm

        So, a question for you is: why do you believe what they say about Trump?

        That sounds like a trick question lol

  13. Cluster October 15, 2019 / 3:01 pm

    So RG is implying that it is the Democrats and Republicans who are “beholden to the country and the Constitution” which I guess means that any loyalties outside of those two parties is tantamount to treason lol, and is now trying to assess Spook’s loyalties … it’s f****ing hilarious.

    I absolutely love this dynamic we are in. So many people just don’t get it but we are slowly changing this country for the better and shedding ourselves of self interested politicians who convince people like RG and Fielding that they are the true patriots while they continue to pass CR’s, engage in unlawful wars, and enrich themselves and their families at the expense of tax payers. This is going along better than I had hoped for.

    • Retired Spook October 15, 2019 / 5:30 pm

      As for Spook, apparently the question was too hard for him to answer in a serious way.

      Another reason I’d quit supporting him is if he quit keeping his promises, but I don’t see that happening.

    • Cluster October 15, 2019 / 5:56 pm

      Well I thought that question was too hard for you Spook but you did well. And just so you know, it wasn’t a trick question.

      • Retired Spook October 15, 2019 / 10:45 pm

        The thing I don’t understand is, let’s say we all abandon Trump because, well, Trump. OK, who do we support? Republicans have been promising the kinds of things Trump is actually accomplishing for as long as I can remember, and have NEVER delivered, and there is no serious primary challenge to Trump, so I assume our trolls would have us support one of the Dem candidates. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha – that’s a good one.

      • Amazona October 15, 2019 / 11:08 pm

        Yo, Spook…what you said !

  14. Cluster October 15, 2019 / 3:04 pm

    A lot of media and DC people still need to be gone and replaced in order for this country to truly be great again. There are still too many cancerous cells.

  15. Cluster October 15, 2019 / 3:08 pm

    I also think what is really ironic is that the same people who worshipped Obama for being the first black President (and he’s actually half white so why everyone thinks he is black is odd) and of whom drooled over his speeches are the very same people lecturing us on applauding Trump.

    You can’t make this shit up

  16. Cluster October 15, 2019 / 3:23 pm

    And just to clarify something for the permanently stupid – Trump will only lose our support if he stops doing what he’s doing. So far he is doing everything he said he would and more so I am really looking forward to another 4 years. Imagine the progress this country will make.

    • Retired Spook October 15, 2019 / 3:47 pm

      But apparently wanting good things for this country makes us unpatriotic.

      • Cluster October 15, 2019 / 4:00 pm

        That’s how twisted things have become. Identity politics is absolutely destroying this country. The Democrats and the media have worked overtime trying to convince people that Trump is bad and possibly criminal simply because they do not like his politics, and people like RG and Fielding lap it up. They have investigated every aspect of Trump over the last 3 years and yet have found no improprieties but they continue to pick at the scabs everyday hoping to make something bleed, and yet the only thing bleeding is our country from their self interested actions.

      • Amazona October 15, 2019 / 9:00 pm

        Speaking of Identity Politics:

        (Jordan) Peterson, a Toronto clinical psychologist and professor, achieved international fame when he became a central figurehead in the conversation of ethics and his opposition to identity politics and political correctness. This put him square into the crosshairs of hard-left activists and protesters. This includes Antifa, who often utilize violence to silence political opposition.

        The reason the hard-left becomes so vehement about Peterson’s silence is that much of what Peterson says makes sense, and as such, even members of the left find him appealing. Peterson is dangerous. He doesn’t just change minds, he changes hearts, and those are two things the radical left would like to own.

        So what does Antifa, the so-called pushback against fascism that uses every filthy tactic of fascism in its efforts to shove Leftist governance down our throats, do when there is a movie about Peterson? What do they tell a church that is planning to screen the movie?

        “Fair warning,” it read, “several community organizations are planning to shut down your showing of the Jordan Peterson propaganda film. While many of us aren’t Christian and some even flat-out condemn the religion, we do not want any harm to come to your place of worship or those within. However, we cannot allow fascism to continue to rise and will not tolerate its presence in our city, whether it is on the streets or on the waterfront or in a church. Read some history books, read about eugenics, read about sex and gender and then compare it to Peterson. Pray on it if you must. Do the right thing. As much as we joke about it, we really don’t want to have to bring out the guillotine to fix society.”

        Yep. BRING OUT THE GUILLOTINE TO FIX SOCIETY All we have to do is watch and listen, and the Left will tell us what is in store for us of we let them gain more power. And no, it is not just free cell phones and dinging “the rich”. It is death to those who do not submit.

      • Cluster October 15, 2019 / 4:08 pm

        AND it didn’t take but two minutes to find an current article detailing the harming effect of identity politics. In this most recent example, of which there will be many more probably even today, the target is Mark Zuckerberg for having the temerity to meet with Tucker Carlson.

        Tech journalist Violet Blue wrote, “I think we can all agree that ‘I have dinner with *lots* of racist homophobic pro-Trump pro-wall white supremacist conspiracy theory nutjobs you should try it exclamation point lolol’ is not a good look.

        https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/techwatch/corinne-weaver/2019/10/15/media-slam-zuckerberg-meeting-conservatives

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