Open Thread

We went from the Deep State being a paranoid, right-wing conspiracy to it being the Defender of Democracy very fast:

The deep state is alive and well, composed of patriotic public servants. Their aim is not to bring down President Trump out of personal or political animus but to rescue the Republic from his excesses…

How it works out as a good thing that those with zero power should thwart those vested with Constitutional authority is beyond me – save as more proof of my They Are All Insane Liars theory. Still, this is a major admission – via the New York Times, the mouthpiece of the Ruling Class – that they are, indeed, attempting to subvert the Presidency. That they are cloaking it as selfless dedication merely indicates they are psychopaths…but the revelation, itself, means they know the jig is up: that Trump and team are about to spill the beans on just what the Deep State has been up to. This is pre-spin to get the Democrat base to think the upcoming revelations are good for Democrats and bad for Trump.

As for the Impeachment thing, itself: if you listen to the Experts, its all moving along smoothly and Trump is doomed…though all predictions of doom are given an asterisk and if you dig deep you find that even in the massively rigged polls, they aren’t finding a majority solidly in favor of removing the President. Maybe we on our side are the blind idiots who are missing crucial facts…anything is possible; but when the pack of insane liars which is the MSM are all reading from the same script my default position – based on decades of experience – is that they are merely pushing an insane lie. We’ll find out soon enough which is which.

And if you think Romney is winning any friends for standing athwart Trump – well, maybe not:

The survey by Utah Policy and Y2 Analytics shows that only 46 percent of respondents in Utah approve of his performance, while 51 percent do not approve of his performance.

Romney was elected in 2018 with 62 percent of the vote.

Mormons, by and large, were never going to warm to Trump. The over-the-top glitz; the brashness; the womanizing…these are not the Mormons favorite things. But, also, Mormons ain’t stupid, people: they know that if they want to be Mormons practicing their faith without let or hindrance from the Left, then Trump is their go-to guy right now…and undermining him from within is unwise. And there’s also this: people don’t like a back-stabber. Trump endorsed Romney in 2012 and in 2018: where is the return on that? It looks really lousy for Mitt to jump on Trump.

In a bit of Deus Vulte news, a group of Catholics tossed a pagan idol into the Tiber the other day. The idol, itself (a hideously ugly thing to look at, as are most pagan idols), supposedly represents the indigenous peoples of the Amazon…but, whatever: it was a pagan idol and the Pope shouldn’t have allowed it in a Catholic Church. I’m not one of those who subscribes to the Commie Pope thing as some of my more Trad fellow Catholics do…but it is clear to me that Pope Francis is allowing a lot of foxes into the hen house.

Leftists claimed that polar bears were dying out because of climate change. Scientist investigated the matter and determined that polar bears are thriving. Scientist has now been forced out of her position. The Left is at war with Science, guys; for all their supposed adherence to it, they are ignorant pagans who are in the act of destroying all science. One hundred years from now, if we don’t stop them, we’ll be living in another Dark Age.

A Texas jury has awarded sole custody to a mother so she may begin the chemical castration of her seven year old son. I’ve been unable to find out precisely why the father lost custody – other than a generic “bitter divorce fight” sort of thing. Was dad abusive? Drunk? Don’t know – going back a bit, haven’t found anything that clarifies that aspect of the case. But the bottom line is that it is insane to have a 7 year old transition to anything. This is especially the case when we’re talking about chemical alteration of the boy’s body, which may cause irreversible damage. That a judge even for a moment entertained the assertion that the boy should be allowed to transition shows how far down the road to complete lunacy we’ve gone. And right now, there are really no laws regarding this – but we’re going to have to make laws prohibiting transition prior to 18 (at least: I would prefer we make it 21). The trans issue is the last, bright red line: we allow the Left to push us past this and we’ll all be forced to deny self-evident truth and become liars.

24 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook October 22, 2019 / 3:02 pm

    Rush was talking about the Canadian zoologist who was fired because of her paper on Polar Bears. Just another example of what happens when someone challenges the orthodoxy of the Left. If Conservatives did similar things to the Left, I’d say NBD, but we don’t.

    • Amazona October 22, 2019 / 8:21 pm

      Thought Crimes. Wrongthink. The stuff of Orwell’s prophecies.

      BTW when the Left is really in power they arrest people for Wrongthink. Thought Police seek out and prosecute people for Thought Crimes.

  2. Cluster October 22, 2019 / 3:25 pm

    We went from the Deep State being a paranoid, right-wing conspiracy to it being the Defender of Democracy very fast

    Yes we did and isn’t this the REAL Constitutional crisis??? As you said, where in the Constitution does it give federal bureaucrats the right to leak information and undermine the elected President if they disagree with him?

    Where in the Constitution does it also allow the House to hold closed door impeachment proceedings???

    These actions are disturbing and in direct violation of our Constitution.

    One hundred years from now, if we don’t stop them, we’ll be living in another Dark Age.

    Worse yet, we could be living in California. It’s already the dark ages there lol

  3. Cluster October 22, 2019 / 4:38 pm

    We just got a little more insight into why Democrats want to impeach Trump as soon as they can …

    A review launched by Attorney General William Barr into the origins of the Russia investigation has expanded significantly ……. Barr almost certainly approved this expansion and direction because of what Durham has already found. And what Durham has already found, NBC notes, has intelligence operatives lawyering up…The DoJ made sure to note at the beginning that Durham was conducting an internal review, not a criminal investigation, although there was nothing to prevent it from developing into one. The DoJ does not comment on the existence of criminal investigations until they either close one or get an indictment — with a couple of notable James Comey-related exceptions — and they’re not talking now, either. These developments, however, make it look like Durham has turned the corner from review to full-blown criminal investigation. At least that’s the impression that some of the people involved must have.

    It’s about to get really interesting

    • Amazona October 22, 2019 / 8:18 pm

      I’ve commented on this before: Back in the Bush years I answered a phone survey that asked me if I approved of something he did. I forget what it was, but my feeling was that he had not gone far enough, and I expected a followup question. I never got one, so I got put in the column of disapproving of the action, though in fact I thought it was a good one, just not enough.

      So when people say they approve of impeachment, I wonder how many say that because they know impeachment will mean a Republican victory, not because they want to hurt Trump. I wonder how many say “Yes, impeach him” because they know that those who vote for impeachment are increasing their chances of being re-elected next year. How many are trying to contribute to the death spiral of the American Left by telling it to go faster, harder, louder, with more energy?

      • Cluster October 23, 2019 / 7:51 am

        I would be one in that category. I want the House to vote on impeachment too, only because it will expose the Democrats for who they are and lead to huge wins for us.

  4. Cluster October 22, 2019 / 5:35 pm

    Mic Drop

    • Amazona October 22, 2019 / 8:11 pm

      Rep. Al Green: I’m concerned if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected.

  5. Cluster October 22, 2019 / 5:44 pm

    They will eventually eat their own … (and that might be a poor choice of words lol)

    Internal focus groups conducted by Pete Buttigieg’s presidential campaign this summer reveal a key reason why he is struggling with African-American voters: many see his sexuality as a problem…….. “That’s not my thing but I wouldn’t want to know that as a candidate,” said one female participant under 40. “Too much information.”

    Hahahahaha so I am guessing the whole “gender fluid” chicks with dicks thing might be a bridge too far but hey good luck to the Democrats trying to sell this insanity

  6. Cluster October 23, 2019 / 8:36 am

    Am I the only one who is surprised that the media knows so much about a “closed door” hearing with Ambassador Taylor yesterday? MSNBC is talking this morning as if they have read the entire transcript of Taylors closed door testimony yesterday, and they probably have. That’s how unserious this whole thing is and it’s the same playbook they used with Russia. Leak info to the media, then use media reports to bolster their claims. Somewhere Saul Alinsky is very proud.

    The media and the Democrats must believe that Americans are really stupid people not to see thru this but they will realize next November that most Americans see right thru their bullshit. And actually it’s the Democrats collusion with the media that is the real crime going on and my hope is that they are so soundly defeated, that some reforms are imposed on journalists. I have to think this is the most coordinated propaganda effort since the Third Reich and their willingness to flat out lie and propagate falsehoods is a real danger to our Republic.

    • Retired Spook October 23, 2019 / 12:34 pm

      Am I the only one who is surprised that the media knows so much about a “closed door” hearing with Ambassador Taylor yesterday?

      Being able to leak only what they want the public to hear is one of, if not THE main reason for the closed-door hearings. They’ve also imposed a gag order on Republicans. YCMTSU!!

  7. Cluster October 23, 2019 / 8:51 am

    So the other day we discussed how even conservative outlets continue to use the language of the left, and here is another example from DailyMail:

    The inquiry hinges on Trump’s July now-infamous phone call with Zelensky in which he pressed him to investigate unsubstantiated claims about Democratic rival Joe Biden and a debunked conspiracy theory involving a computer server at the Democratic National Committee.

    A “conspiracy theory” about the DNC server?? How do we know that? The DNC server WAS NEVER handed over to the FBI for investigation and no report was ever issued on the findings from the firm who did supposedly investigate it … Crowdstrike, so how in the world could anyone label that a conspiracy theory? Democrats loudly claimed that RUSSIA hacked into their servers …. but no one knows for sure if they did and strangely no one in the government seems to care.

    And then we have the “unsubstantiated claims” about Joe Biden. Again, how do we know that? There has NEVER been any investigation into Biden’s and his son’s dealing in Ukraine, but the media quickly labels everything about Biden as “unsubstantiated”.

    The Democrats and the media’s dishonesty will only ramp up over the next year so fasten your seat belts.

    • Amazona October 23, 2019 / 12:03 pm

      “DEBUNKED conspiracy theory”? It was the DNC which reported the alleged hacking, it was the DNC that then reported that its personal lapdog investigating agency said it had been done by Russians and the DNC that identified this investigating agency as Crowdstrike. Who says that this was always a “conspiracy theory” cooked up by the Right, and who says it was “debunked”—-and how?

      Any claim or observation which initiates an investigation is “unsubstantiated” until facts are uncovered which support or contradict the initiating claim.

    • Cluster October 23, 2019 / 1:45 pm

      Are there any Russian agents in the room with you Fielding?

    • Retired Spook October 23, 2019 / 3:33 pm

      The Moderator must be off today. I thought Fielding was invited to deposit his excrement elsewhere.

    • fieldingclaymore October 23, 2019 / 4:05 pm

      Apologies. We know Cluster will answer any Leftist any time about any thing but we do try to keep up with taking out the trash. //Moderator

    • Cluster October 23, 2019 / 4:37 pm

      The Russian agents could be right outside your door Fielding. Be careful

  8. Cluster October 23, 2019 / 9:36 am

    Disarming you and monitoring your speech – this is the NEW Democrat Party:

    Massachusetts is taking the fight against nasty words to the next level with a new state bill that would ban the use of the word bitch in certain contexts.

    State Rep. Daniel Hunt (D–Boston) has put forward H. 3719 that would prohibit the use of the big, bad b-word when deployed to “to accost, annoy, degrade or demean” another person. Anyone who did so would be considered a “disorderly person” under state law.

    Penalties could include fines of up to $200 or six months in jail. Hunt’s bill specifies that either the person called a bitch or a witness to the bitch-calling could report the crime to the police.

    We most certainly have to defeat this leftist authoritarian strain dominating the Democrat Party. They are more dangerous to this country than any outside threat.

    • Amazona October 23, 2019 / 11:58 am

      Here come the Thought Police!

      Oh, wait a minute—they are already here! In true Soviet Wrongthink fashion, people can be prosecuted, punished and no doubt soon imprisoned for failing to obey the rigid orthodoxy, to quote Spook, of an increasingly intolerant and tyrannical Left.

      It won’t be long before a child turns in his parents for saying, in what used to be the privacy of the home, that another person is a “bitch”. Now that the Left is openly promoting the prosecution of people on the basis of second or third hand reporting of something the reporter did not personally witness, the slippery slope is well greased.

  9. jdge1 October 23, 2019 / 9:58 am

    The transition (castration) of minors is simply an extension of abortions, where the destruction of human lives is the end result. Remember reading in school about how certain historic civilizations, like the Mayans, adhered to barbaric practices such as human sacrifices to appease the gods? Remember how you felt disgust for the mental state of a people who would do such things and were then thankful that we lived in saner times? Not so much. I can see where distant future generations (if we ever get that far) will view our current societies just as or even more barbaric, willfully destroying innocent babies and youth. That such practices of chemical castration of a 7 year is allowed in the US does not bode well for mankind. When evil is able to perform its dastard deeds in broad daylight with blind support from various factions of society, then there can be no doubt that we are at war. God have mercy on us.

    • Amazona October 23, 2019 / 11:52 am

      If a 7-year-old is considered competent to make a decision that will affect every single aspect of his life from that moment on, and have a detrimental effect on his physical and mental health, then why not extend that assumption of his maturity and competence and hand him the car keys and a loaded revolver? Let him vote? Let him enter into contracts?

      You are right—this mutilation of young human bodies IS barbaric. And the passionate advocacy of this barbarism by so many in power in our nation is alarming.

      We are starting to gather data on the outcome of sex change efforts, and it shows a range of negative results. The suicide rate of trans people is much higher than that of others, and the physical toll of meddling with hormones is just starting to be evaluated. I recently read an article by a woman who had decided she was really a man, who had undergone “transition therapy”. She gained a huge amount of weight due to the hormones, had all sorts of physical problems, and was still acutely unhappy. When she tried to stop and go back, some of the effects were irreversible. And she came to the conclusion that this was all really just a way of denying her homosexuality—-it was easier to think she was really a man and therefore attracted to women than admit she was gay. She is now living as a lesbian woman with a female partner and trying to stabilize her hormones and let her body recover from the damage done to it.

      Another story was about a young boy who declared he was really a girl. Fortunately his parents were able to get him into counseling without being arrested for child abuse, and it turned out that his younger sister, who had serious health problems from birth, had been getting (in the boy’s perception) more love and attention than he was, and in typical child’s logic this meant that little girls got more love and attention than little boys, so he decided he would be a girl. Intelligent, rational, loving parents were able to resolve this entire issue within days, without any chemical intervention or meddling with identity issues.

      I think the real mental health problem lies with the parents, who lack the ability or desire to do what is really in the child’s best interest and instead use the child’s confusion to enhance their own cred as virtue-signaling Liberals. These children ARE human sacrifices, on the altar of Progressivism.

  10. Retired Spook October 23, 2019 / 12:24 pm

    Apparently “lynching” doesn’t mean the same thing it did in 1998.

    No matter how Democrats criticize the GOP or Trump, you can be sure of one thing: The Democrats are or have been guilty of the same thing. The have projection down to a science.

  11. Cluster October 23, 2019 / 4:20 pm

    For those cretin Democrats upset with Rudy Giulani I have just two words:

    Sydney Blumenthal

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