Open Thread

Had a wedding in the family yesterday – my goddaughter. She married a splendid young man. And it was a wedding – a religious ceremony followed by a large group of people eating and drinking and dancing together. The socio-economic level was mostly middle class, but some on the poor side, some on the rich. The ethnic grouping was a bit of everything. The religions were also widely varied from atheist to devout; Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, etc. In other words, it was a normal, American wedding – and I’m very sorry for those who are out there living lives of intersectionality and arguing over what pronouns to use. They are missing out on life, entirely. They are forcing themselves to be angry and depressed when they could just do the normal, human thing of getting married and starting families.

The Left has erected a creepy, Big Brother mural of that poor, sad, little girl Greta Thunberg. It will loom over the homeless people wallowing in human sh**. This kinda sums up the Left these days.

I guess the MSM was trying to find an attendee of the LSU/Bama game who was anti-Trump. This particular snipe hunt didn’t work out at all well for them.

Don Surber points out that Impeachment isn’t why Democrats will lose next year. Listen to Don. Don is smart.

The Ukraine scandal may be much larger than first reported – but, face it, you already knew that. All of us have been wondering for a while just how many politicians and connected people were profiting off Ukraine until Trump stopped it.

17 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. R. Murphy November 10, 2019 / 3:29 pm

    Liberals preach diversity yet are largely the same save superficial differences. You want to see a racist look at the guy who is constantly pontificating about race, who is almost invariably a creature of the left.

    • Amazona November 10, 2019 / 4:28 pm

      When the the most important thing about a person is his skin color or ethnicity, you are a racist. These days the dream of Doctor King is kept alive by white conservatives because we just don’t care.

  2. Retired Spook November 10, 2019 / 11:41 pm

    I keep hearing on the news that Elizabeth Warren’s Medicare for All plan will cost $52 trillion over 10 years. The number is so ginormous it literally didn’t register, but then I got to thinking about the math. $52,000,000,000,000 divided by the population of 330,000,000 comes out to nearly $158,000 for every man, woman and child in the United States over 10 years or $63,000 per year for a family of four. There’s something wrong with that picture, and I don’t think it’s my math skills.

    • Ryan Murphy November 11, 2019 / 7:24 am

      Rg … even members of her own party don’t believe that line of hooey.

    • Retired Spook November 11, 2019 / 9:08 am

      Your numbers don’t add up. The CDC says total healthcare expenditures for 2017 were $2.5 trillion. A 5% increase in 2018 would have raised that to $3.675 trillion, and a 4% increase this year would raise it to $3.822 trillion. Your point, though, is well taken. Healthcare is expensive. And if the government keeps increasing it’s footprint (just like in education) the cost is going to get higher faster. Two things happen when you eliminate competition: costs go up and quality goes down. And once the government is in complete control of healthcare, it will have complete control over the citizens.

    • Amazona November 11, 2019 / 3:45 pm

      Sometimes I look at someone from the other side of the political aisle and while I don’t agree with his or her policies I can understand support for him or her. But then I look at people like Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders, and all I can think is WTH? I literally cannot understand why any person could possibly envision this Democrat in the presidency. Seriously? Bernie conferring with any world leader? Liz talking with Kim Jong Un?

      These people make the term “lightweight” seem complimentary by comparison. They’re not just wrong, they’re stupid. When I look at the other occupants of the Dem Clown Car I don’t see anyone with good ideas, but it is interesting to me that the two front-runners are the ones so seriously deficient in intellectual firepower.

      Bernie Sanders recently fumed that people were saying he is on the Left. Again, WTH? The man is an avowed Socialist, with strong sympathies for out-and-out Communism,, and he doesn’t think he is a LEFTIST? He thinks it is an INSULT? Clearly he doesn’t even know the definition of the word. And Warren comes across as the most annoying, clueless and charmless candidate, except for maybe Bernie, not only in this race but in any I can remember. And yes, that includes “Don’t Leave My Chakra Hanging” Algore. She is the human version of fingernails on a blackboard. And on top of that she is as dumb as a box of hammers.

      When I look at the bench of the Republicans, I see an exciting lineup. While the Right has the Schiffhole and Chuck E, Sheila and Mad Max and Al Green and AOC and her pack, we have Devin Nunes, we have Dan Crenshaw, we have Jim Jordan, we have a whole list of brilliant, competent and even more important, ethical people, any one of whom could step into the presidency tomorrow and be so far superior to anyone in the Dem conglomeration of idiocy , racism, bigotry and far-Left ideology that there could be no comparison.

      We have rising stars, they have black holes.

      • Retired Spook November 11, 2019 / 8:38 pm

        but it is interesting to me that the two front-runners are the ones so seriously deficient in intellectual firepower.

        Not surprising when you remember Liberalism is a mental disorder.

  3. Retired Spook November 11, 2019 / 10:57 am

    Somehow my reply to RG got deleted along with his comment, which was actually a good point about the cost of healthcare, so I’m restoring it.

    Your numbers don’t add up. The CDC says total healthcare expenditures for 2017 were $3.5 trillion. A 5% increase in 2018 would have raised that to $3.675 trillion, and a 4% increase this year would raise it to $3.822 trillion. Your point, though, is well taken. Healthcare is expensive. And if the government keeps increasing it’s footprint (just like in education) the cost is going to get higher faster. Two things happen when you eliminate competition: costs go up and quality goes down. And once the government is in complete control of healthcare, it will have complete control over the citizens, because if government can provide healthcare (and is the ONLY provider), the government can also take it away if, for example, it doesn’t like what you do or say.

    • Amazona November 11, 2019 / 11:20 am

      Thanks for reposting your comment, Spook, though the original was still there.

      While your figures are all correct, and important, I think the most important thing is what you added at the end: And once the government is in complete control of healthcare, it will have complete control over the citizens, because if government can provide healthcare (and is the ONLY provider), the government can also take it away if, for example, it doesn’t like what you do or say.

      We are already seeing many—far too many—in Congress supporting Thought Police to impose penalties for Thought Crimes. We have the House of Representatives openly and loudly demanding the removal of a president based on the emotional reactions of some anti-Trump people to their interpretations of what he really MEANT by what he said or what they were told he said, which is another way of supporting Goodthink as defined by the Left. These are literally the same people who want complete control over paying for health care, which would give them the power to determine who “deserves” health care based on what they think or believe or say.

      • Retired Spook November 11, 2019 / 8:41 pm

        The real irony is, if you use the CDC figures as a starting point and factor in 4% a year inflation as RG suggested, the total accumulated 10 year cost for healthcare expenditures is 52 trillion (rounded up to the nearest trillion).

  4. Retired Spook November 11, 2019 / 11:30 am

    Good for Nikki Haley. I had always wondered why Trump fired Tillerson and Kelly.

  5. Retired Spook November 11, 2019 / 11:39 am

    Anyone care to guess how many people are on the National Security Council? I would have thought maybe a dozen or two. Anyone guess 100? 200? Sorry, too low.

    If only 10% of them were out to undermine the President, that’s a problem.

  6. Amazona November 11, 2019 / 4:02 pm

    I am surprised that Cluster hasn’t weighed in on this. I know he is in Phoenix, not Tucson, but as the state in general seems to be going through an identity crisis and sending a series of losers and oddballs to DC I thought this was a breath of fresh air—maybe Dems are starting to examine the national trend of the party. There was an overwhelming vote to not allow Tucson to be a sanctuary city. I’m sure geography played a big role in this, as Tucson is on the front lines, so to speak, of the impacts of illegal immigration.

    “The controversial initiative to make Tucson the state’s first “sanctuary city” is believed to have played a major role in turning out Republicans to vote, as there was no GOP candidate for mayor this year.”

    Interestingly, the failure of the initiative doesn’t seem to rest solely with Republicans since voters also put Democrats on the city council. Democrats outnumber Republicans in the city 2-1.

    “Seventy-one percent of the city voters, including its left-leaning mayor and council members, rejected the initiative. A 71 percent majority means that opposition to sanctuary extends across party and ideological lines.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/11/11/the-most-liberal-city-in-arizona-just-voted-against-becoming-a-sanctuary-for-illegal-aliens-

  7. Amazona November 11, 2019 / 8:49 pm

    A new draft of the Environmental Protection Agency proposal, titled Strengthening Transparency in Regulatory Science, would require that scientists disclose all of their raw data, including confidential medical records, before the agency could consider an academic study’s conclusions. E.P.A. officials called the plan a step toward transparency and said the disclosure of raw data would allow conclusions to be verified independently.

    “We are committed to the highest quality science,” Andrew Wheeler, the E.P.A. administrator, told a congressional committee in September. “Good science is science that can be replicated and independently validated, science that can hold up to scrutiny. That is why we’re moving forward to ensure that the science supporting agency decisions is transparent and available for evaluation by the public and stakeholders.”

    This, BTW, was “explained” in a NYT headline as E.P.A. to Limit Science Used to Write Public Health Rules

    Yes, demanding that scientific principles be applied to science is offensive to the Left, which has also rejected the same respect for “science that can be replicated and independently validated, science that can hold up to scrutiny” when it comes to science about climate change and gender.

    Also, note the web address: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/climate/epa-science-trump

    That pretty much sums up the NYT attitude: scientists demand real science and this is bad because…Trump

    • Amazona November 11, 2019 / 8:50 pm

      Reading this after I posted it, I thought “Gee, where would the Left be without anonymous sources?”

  8. Amazona November 11, 2019 / 9:24 pm

    And the narcissism beat goes on. Nothing like taking it as a personal REJECTION every time a politician somehow fails to perform the way you want him to, is there? But Sandy evidently does just that:

    “And so, when you elect a politician, and then they (sic) let you down, it feels like rejection,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “It feels like heart break. It feels like betrayal. It feels like I never want to love again. That’s what that feels like.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/ocasio-cortez-politicians-letting-me-down-feels-like-i-never-want-to-love-again

    But wait—she gets even goofier:

    “The way we inoculate ourselves from continuing to burn up our planet at unsustainable level triggering feedback loops that we have not even begun to comprehend is by honoring indigenous wisdom and allowing it to guide our climate policy,” Ocasio-Cortez continued.

    ??????? I think the feedback loop she has not even begun to comprehend is the one identifying her as nuts. And which “indigenous wisdom” is supposed to “guide our climate policy”? The one where tribes would set fire to forests or grasslands to drive game into areas where it could be killed? The one where the would drive hundreds of buffalo off cliffs to lie, bloody and broken and suffering at the bottom, to be butchered? The one that depended on genocide and/or slavery to dominate territory? The one that ripped the beating hearts out of people in sacrifice to their gods? “Indigenous wisdom” indigenous to what culture, in what land, at what time?

    She spouts gibberish, and the Loony Left just eats it up. Of course, at a Bernie Sanders rally she probably sounded pretty smart by comparison.

    On the other hand, she is doing a great job of writing next year’s Republican challenger’s campaign speeches.

    • Retired Spook November 11, 2019 / 9:35 pm

      I think the feedback loop she has not even begun to comprehend is the one identifying her as nuts.

      ROTFLMAO!!!

      And which “indigenous wisdom” is supposed to “guide our climate policy”

      Or it could just be a back-handed swipe at Elizabeth high-cheekbones Warren.

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