Open Thread

A good Tweet of mine might normally get a dozen or so likes – the Tweet I did suggesting we’re going to primary Romney after his witness vote is up to 429 likes. Methinks ol’ Mitt really screwed up on this one.

What was the upside for him? A kind mention or two in the MSM…but the downside is he’s revealed he’s learned nothing and forgotten nothing. A fit of pique over Trump not making him SecState and he’s placed himself in real jeopardy for re-election in Utah.

Impeachment wraps up on Wednesday – though some Democrats are saying they’ll go right back to it. It wouldn’t surprise me: kamikaze attacks seem to be all they have left. This may well allow the GOP to take back the House in November. If we’re going to re-elect Trump, and I think we will, how many Trump voters will be inclined to vote down-ballot for a Democrat who is almost certain to impeach him again in 2021?

Coronavirus: getting a little more interesting out there. What I’m wondering about is why we care so much? Tens of thousands of Americans die every year from the flu and what I haven’t heard is that this flu is particularly more deadly or infectious than any other flu. Why the big deal about it? It would be sad if an additional ten or twenty thousand Americans die this year because of the flu, but that wouldn’t be an Earth-shaking tragedy. I’d only be worried about a flu which is set to kill millions…something like the Spanish Flu 1918-1920 which killed many tens of millions (in a much smaller global population). Is this what some are expecting and only letting it slowly dribble out? Or is it just a big nothing?

Bolton’s betrayal has been rankling me – and makes me wonder if any of them, Democrat or Republican, can be trusted? I think of the way that MacArthur was slandered into political irrelevance while his much less competent former subordinate, Eisenhower, is still lauded to the skies. Has it been that for a very long time, the good people have been destroyed so that the bad people can thrive? So that, really, bad people can make themselves look good? How many of the heroes of the past 100 years have survived real scrutiny? How many supposed bad guys have, on second look, turned out to be rather heroic? LBJ was a racist pig of a man. JFK was jumping on everything in a skirt. MLK has very definite questions about his morality. Truman sent men to die in a war they weren’t allowed to win. The Elder Bush let the completely defeated Saddam survive. Meanwhile, we know Joe McCarthy was completely right; that per MacArthur there really is no substitute for victory; that Patton correctly perceived the threat of the USSR…and all of them were taken to task by the same people telling us that people like Truman and Kennedy are icons of public service. And keep in mind that I’m deeply versed in history and am only now coming to this realization…how much less will less informed people see it? We are indebted to Trump – by accident or design, he exposed the essential corruption at the core of American institutions.

31 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Amazona February 2, 2020 / 3:59 pm

    Mike Lee said of Romney: “…he has my respect for the thoughtfulness, integrity, and guts he has shown throughout this process…”

    If that is true, then the only thing we can take away from Romney’s performance is that he is just profoundly stupid. His alleged “thoughtfulness” didn’t seem to let him understand the facts presented to him, as he repeated that he really wanted to know what intent or motive Bolton had attached to the actual words of the president. As if yet another crystal-ball-based attribution of intent not clearly evident in the words or actions would matter. The fact is, Bolton could either have said that Trump clearly and explicitly linked Ukraine aid to a Ukrainian effort to help him damage a political opponent because the man was a political opponent—which is the only truly “damaging” thing he could possibly say, leading to a “he said/he said” conflict between him and Trump, or something similar to what others have claimed, which was simply a desire to get actual information on corruption which might have included one or two Bidens but not based on an effort to damage Joe’s political chances in 2020, merely acknowledging the fact that the Bidens themselves had put themselves in the position of being investigated.

    All the fussing about Bolton seems to center on whether or not he actually said what the NYT says they were told he said. I think the focus should be on the attribution of motive to anything the president says or is alleged to have said. So far it has never been the WORDS, but just the attributed intent slapped onto the words by people trying to twist what he said into something nefarious.

    Sometimes this is done inadvertently, due to either the inability to process what has been said or an internal bias not consciously applied. I once made a comment about how a young woman had come to ranching country fresh out of college with a list of things she planned to implement because she had decided they were important—like making ranchers reduce the height of their fencing to 42 inches so elk could jump them more easily, and raising the bottom rail to at least 18 inches above the ground “so baby elk could crawl under them”. Well, baby elk don’t crawl, the area where she wanted to do this only had elk move into it in December through March when the baby elk were taller than horses as well as good jumpers, and most livestock could almost step over fences that were only 42 inches high—not to mention the cost of replacing perfectly good existing and functional fencing. I made a comment about how she had obviously packed her shiny masters thesis and her Birkenstocks and headed out to educate those rubes in the hills. And the only thing one woman I know took away from this was that I don’t like Birkenstocks.

    So sometimes it is stupidity, sometimes is just filters we aren’t even aware of. But what I am seeing is purposeful twisting of words to try to give them new, different and malignant meanings. I think this is obvious by the way the words are edited and falsely quoted, showing that this is not just an inadvertent misunderstanding due to poor brain function.

    I think we have spent way too much time on defending what the president said and not nearly enough on pointing out the most essential fact of the proceedings—-that they depend, wholly and completely, not on what was said but on invented motives and intentions allegedly behind what was said.

  2. jdge1 February 2, 2020 / 9:28 pm

    Significant evidence from 2 studies done in 2008 and 2009 shows that the 20 to 40 million deaths worldwide from the great 1918 Influenza Pandemic were NOT due to ‘flu’ at all or even a virus, but to pneumonia caused by massive bacterial infection. And that many of the deaths were directly related to the misuse or overuse of aspirin.

    Aspirin was made available in tablet form and without a prescription in 1915. Two years later, when Bayer’s patent expired during the First World War, the company lost the trademark rights to aspirin in various countries. In 1918 aspirin was recommended by the US Surgeon General, the US Navy, and the Journal of American Medical Association just prior to the spike in October death spike.

    Here are 2 significant facts about aspirin.
    1.) Aspirin increases fluid in the lungs and impairs clearance of mucus.
    2.) Aspirin causes the lining of the stomach and intestinal walls to break-down after prolonged use, leading to irreparable tissue damage and the severe degradation and weakening of the digestive tract.

    Homeopathic and naturopathic doctors generally understand that significant body immunity defenses take place in the gut. If you weaken or destroy the gut arena and at the same time create havoc in the lungs, the chances of recovery diminish greatly.

    This article gives a much more in-depth review.

    It is my belief that almost all if not all of the so called “new” or “ previously unknown” causes of viral / bacterial illness & related deaths are caused by a combination of things like misdiagnosis, damaging treatment, and accidental or intentional release of germ warfare, whether by the pharmaceutical industry (in part to push laws mandating the use of pharmaceuticals to treat as we are now seeing in several states), research institutions (there are several known instances of intentional & accidental release of genetically modified insects) or enemies of the state.

  3. jdge1 February 2, 2020 / 9:36 pm

    Voters often have short memories. Many senators can screw up for 5 ½ years then make a few good plays in the last 6 months of their term retaining strong voting viability. I doubt Romney will be any different unless he really screws up especially near the end of his term or the people of Utah are giving better options.

  4. Retired Spook February 3, 2020 / 12:51 pm

    Anyone else here rooting for Sanders to win Iowa?


    • Amazona February 3, 2020 / 10:14 pm

      I’m definitely rooting for Bernie. It’s a win for us. He either runs against Trump or he gets bounced again and the Dems lose millions of voters.

  5. Cluster February 3, 2020 / 1:02 pm

    Adam Schiff – “our patriotic federal bureaucrats who stood up to this lawless president are in fear of their lives in the face of vicious smears”

    Who the f**k is this guy? He really needs to go away and yes GO BERNIE

    • Amazona February 3, 2020 / 10:50 pm

      This whole “(blank) is now in fear for his/her life because of (some Republican)” theme is popular right now, but just among the goofiest of the goofy.

      And just which “… patriotic federal bureaucrats who stood up to this lawless president ,,,” does he mean? Not the House members who went along with the impeachment farce, because they are not bureaucrats, much less even remotely patriotic. Not the bureaucrats now facing indictment for the whole convoluted FISA mess, because Trump was not president at the time and hadn’t been accused of anything when they faked the supporting documents allowing them to spy on him and his campaign. ????

  6. Cluster February 3, 2020 / 1:24 pm

    Republicans need to grow a spine and stand up to this constant media barrage of trying to impugn and impeach Trump, or as Adam Schiff would say “vicious smears”. Trump was 100% right to bring up Crowdstrike and Hunter Biden on the phone call because those are two huge issues that Americans should know about. As an American I am sure as hell more concerned about why the VP’s son was knocking down huge sum of money from a corrupt country than I am Ukrainians financial assistance which has NOTHING to do with our national security.

    To me the Democrats are a huge risk to this country in how they have already governed and how they plan to continue governing. Someone other than Trump needs to stand up and flat out call these people for who they are.

    • Amazona February 3, 2020 / 10:11 pm

      Have you noticed how assiduously they have avoided using the word “Crowdstrike” when they misstate what the president said? They barely touch on the corruption of the Ukrainian interference in our election at all, because it is so closely tied to Hillary and Obama, and when they do they are careful to try to dismiss it as a “conspiracy theory”. They have to try to keep the focus on the Bidens, which has to include the claim that Joe Biden was such a threat to Trump that he had to subvert the Constitution to try to diminish him in some way.

      I want to see an ad which says “You know the difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory? A conspiracy is something that really happened, such as the former vice president of the United States giving special treatment to nations which were willing to funnel millions to his son. We know this happened. It has been proved. A conspiracy THEORY is something imaginary cooked up by the party defending this kind of corruption, to try to distract from the truth. People who truly don’t know the difference are profoundly stupid. People who do know the difference but pretend a true conspiracy is just a kooky THEORY are just liars.”

      Time for the gloves to hit the ice, folks. Time to hit and hit hard. Run a whole series of ads like this that give the same choices of what to think about what the Dems have been saying —– out-and-out lying or just plain old garden variety stupidity.

      And you mention something I have been wondering about—have any of the lying mob ever explained how a brief delay in funding another nation’s defense efforts could have had any impact at all on U.S. national security? They just toss out this emotional phrase and move on. Time to ask them. Maybe in the upcoming Senate hearings someone will. Lindsey Graham says they will be calling Schiff to testify.

      I’m buying popcorn futures.

  7. jdge1 February 3, 2020 / 2:31 pm

    In today’s local newspaper.

    “Two members of the state Legislature are launching a new effort to try to figure out why so many people are leaving New York. “When enough people who can afford to leave New York State are gone, who will be left to pay for the infrastructure, health care, schools and other necessities? This is a bipartisan effort to shine the light on this problem that’s causing people to leave our Upstate communities and to find out why the Empire State is fast becoming the ‘Empty State’ so we can change the agenda to keep them here.”

    Data released by the U.S. Census Bureau in December showed the state lost more than 76,000 people over the previous year, the legislators said. It was the fourth year in a row New York’s population dropped and it means the state lost more people than any other state for the second year in a row.

    A recent analysis by the Empire Center found the state has lost a net total of 1.4 million people
    to other states since 2010. That’s more than any other state in the nation, the legislators said.
    Many of those who left are middle-class workers and high-income earners, the Empire Center’s analysis found.”

    Duh… !?! Don’t they realize people just love paying high taxes, dealing with over burdening regulations, government overreach, politicians trampling on the US Constitution and loss of freedoms.

    Politicians need a study for everything. That does at least 2 things. For one, they can place their blame on “the study” for anything that goes wrong when they institute changes to address the item being studied. For another, if they don’t like the results, they can fudge the numbers to arrive at a starting point where they can sell to their citizens the right to institute whatever changes they deem beneficial (while at the same time continuing their power grab).

    • jdge1 February 3, 2020 / 2:37 pm

      And the liberals are STILL trying to figure out how Trump was able to win the presidential election they thought was a sure lock.

    • Amazona February 3, 2020 / 10:12 pm

      Not to mention that they couldn’t pay for all the Leftist claptrap even if those people had stayed.

      The solution is easy: stop putting Democrats in charge

    • Retired Spook February 3, 2020 / 11:43 pm

      I was listening to his show when he made the announcement right at the end of the third hour. He’s one of the most astute political analysts of our time and will be nearly impossible to replace.

      • Cluster February 4, 2020 / 8:27 am

        PRAYERS for Rush. He’s an icon. Like William Buckley before him, Rush is the voice of conservatism for our generation.

  8. Retired Spook February 4, 2020 / 10:41 am

    No better example of Leftist governance and administration than the clusterfu*k they’ve turned the Iowa caucuses into. Who would ever trust them to count votes accurately. Gonna make a great Trump ad.

    • jdge1 February 4, 2020 / 11:54 am

      Latest headline: Trump wins the Democrat Iowa Caucuses”

      • Retired Spook February 4, 2020 / 12:36 pm


    • Amazona February 4, 2020 / 3:04 pm

      Gonna make a great Trump ad.

      Said it before and I’ll say it again—-the Left is writing the Trump campaign, as well as the campaigns for every challenger of every Dem House seat, especially Nan and Shifty and AOC and her pack.

  9. Retired Spook February 4, 2020 / 1:09 pm

    Quote of the day:

    “The mess in Iowa means the battle for the Democratic nomination has stumbled out of the gate.” Major Garrett – CBS News

    The comments after the linked video/article are hilarious.

    • jdge1 February 4, 2020 / 1:39 pm

      Some of the comments:

      Joe Biden – “Did we win in New Hampshire?”

      The Russians did it.

      “A lot of zeros…all across the board” yep

      “We’re the most prepared!” (Never FULLY tested the system)

      Just give them all participation trophies.

      • Retired Spook February 4, 2020 / 1:54 pm

        The title to the article/video:

        “Confusion, optimism as Democrats struggle to fix Iowa caucus chaos”

        One of the best comments:

        “the key word in the title being “fix”

    • jdge1 February 4, 2020 / 2:06 pm

      Other comments from a different post:

      This (the failed app) is almost as convenient as the cameras watching Epstein being murdered failed at that exact moment.

      Oh the Irony.
      Impeach trump for interfering with elections
      – Rig the corruption and email investigations to allow Hillary to run
      – Rig the primary so Hillary can beat a Communist – presumably they didn’t have faith she could beat him
      – Rig the general election with the help of the FBI, CIA, NSC and he State Department.
      – Rig the Trump investigation with Highly unethical partisan attack dogs
      – Rig the Whistleblower event an impeachment inquiry
      – Rig the Primaries again 4 years later

      Deuteronomy 28:20
      “The LORD will send upon you curses, confusion, and rebuke, in all you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken Me.

      Upvote x 1,000,000!!!!
      Paper ballots and purple finger like Iraq even better – vote once and you can’t do it again.

  10. Amazona February 4, 2020 / 2:35 pm

    Another addition to the “Just how crazy ARE they?” category, a list that just keeps getting longer.

    “”If abuse of power is not impeachable … Trump could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election or decide to move to Mar-a-Lago permanently and let Jared Kushner run the country, delegating to him the decision whether to go to war,” Schiff said”

    One great coment: “now if he can only sell california and new york”

    • Retired Spook February 4, 2020 / 2:37 pm


      Pass the popcorn.

  11. Amazona February 4, 2020 / 3:02 pm

    Shadow, a tech firm that describes itself as a group that creates “a permanent advantage for progressive campaigns and causes through technology,” is the company that created the app, according to The New York Times.

    The COO, CEO, CTO and a senior product manager at Shadow all worked for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, according to LinkedIn profiles.

    I think even the name is a hint.

    As usual, some great comments:

    “Come on Karl, we all know this is Trump’s fault!
    Clearly, he paid Cohen to pay Stormy to visit Putin and convince him (wink, wink) to get Ukrainian hackers to put a bug in the IDP’s code. Bolton found out, but was too late as usual.
    What else could it be?”

    “And after 4 furlongs there coming down the stretch.. it’s.. “Bernie Your Bucks not Mine” taking first with “Stained in Ukraine” falling to second and a snorting mad “Lies in Her Sleep” fighting for third with “Pete my Meat” followed by “Amy Who” , “I’ll Just Buy the Election and “Waste of Tommy” in the rear.”

    • Retired Spook February 4, 2020 / 3:11 pm

      I figured the Democrat primaries were going to be fun. They remind me of a Road runner cartoon.

  12. Retired Spook February 4, 2020 / 3:24 pm

    Looks like corrupt Joe is toast.

    • Amazona February 4, 2020 / 8:14 pm

      They will blame Trump for this. He would have won, if not for Trump.

  13. Amazona February 4, 2020 / 8:13 pm

    Who knew that Bill O’Reilly has a sense of humor? He just warned that “…there are more “bombshells” in the pipeline and these will be truly terrible.”

    He went on to describe some of the damaging information lurking to be brought out to damage Trump.

    CNN has also been looking into credible charges that Donald Trump diverted money from his re-election campaign to buy powerful hair products. Don Lemon has an exclusive on the allegation which will be followed by a panel of 17 people who despise both Trump and hair mousse. Carl Bernstein is particularly incensed by this scandal saying: “even Nixon wouldn’t do that.”

    Not to be outdone, Rachel Maddow is developing a story based on very secret sources that President Trump is fond of ordering the Air Force One pilots to circle unnecessarily in order to exacerbate climate change. Ms. Maddow already has one source who actually witnessed Air Force One landing, and is working on getting John Bolton to confirm the whole sordid scenario.

    And there is more. The President is in for a bumpy ride.

  14. Amazona February 5, 2020 / 12:57 am

    Back to my observation that the Dems are writing the campaign slogans and themes for the Republicans in the next election—the low-class surly temper tantrums of the most visible Dems in the State of the Union speech tonight just bears that out.

    The sulking, the pouting, the bad manners, the seething hatred that overcame any semblance of class or character, all sent unmistakable messages about what the new Democrat Party is, stands for and wants to impose on us.

    Nan was stunning. For a while she seemed to be talking to herself, she pulled the old paper-rustling act again, she made faces, and then she topped it off with her strange, silly, bizarre stunt of ripping up the president’s speech and tossing it contemptuously on the desk. What a class act!

    I will have to make a point of watching the vote in the Senate tomorrow.

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