41 thoughts on “It is Really Boring Open Thread

  1. Cluster March 30, 2020 / 9:26 am

    I am still in complete defiance and working everyday because honestly I don’t have the luxury to sit home. For small business owners, no one writes us a paycheck at the end of two weeks and we fund our own retirements so federal government bureaucrats who lecture me to stay home can go to hell. I actually pay their salary. A lot of people in AZ feel the same way and are continuing to live their lives and buy and sell homes and while the other Brokers are hiding under their beds … there is business to be had.

    So Casper predicts over 1,000,000 cases in the next two weeks which is still far below the numbers reached during the swine flu in 2009 so this is really still a big yawner to me. Remember, the swine flu in a 12 month period infected over 60 million Americans, over 270,000 people were hospitalized, and over 12,000 died and yet no hospital was overrun, no one was quarantined and no business ever shut down and while Covid has the potential to reach those numbers, we are no where near those levels now so time for a little perspective again. Below is a Pew Research study on how the media handled the 2009 swine flu:

    Among the answers, according to a new study the Project conducted of media in different countries, is that the swine flu story got less coverage in U.S. newspapers than in some other nations’ press, at least in relation to the number of people ill in those countries. The newspaper coverage here also was broader in nature and somewhat less alarmist.

    For this analysis, PEJ studied 12 days of front-page newspaper coverage in seven countries around the world (including the U.S.) and the top three Spanish-language papers in the U.S. PEJ examined the period from April 27 through May 10 (Sunday – Friday), when coverage in the United States was at its peak.


    • casper3031 March 31, 2020 / 12:56 am

      Cluster, Again, you are comparing statistics for a 12 month period with statistics on a disease that is in the beginning stages. would it make a difference to you that if 60 million Americans catch this, we are looking at 6 million hospitalized and over a million deaths? That’s how much more lethal this is. Mayor Bill DeBlasio screwed up, has have a lot of politicians. The good news is that he figured it out and changed his position fairly rapidly. Trump went from blowing it off completely a month ago to declaring a national emergency, to saying he is doing a good job if we only lose 100,000 Americans.

      • Cluster March 31, 2020 / 9:04 am

        But we’re not in the beginning stages. We are more than 2 months into this and the numbers in NY are already starting to drop. 3,175 deaths in the US over a 2 month period does not at all lend itself to over 100,000 dead in 12 months particularly when you factor in the extreme safety measures currently in place.

        Casper this has nothing to do a flu virus. This is an over exaggeration on a scale never seen before hyped up by a media looking for anything to trash Trump and this country since they don’t have the power. The level of infections does not at all warrant 24/7 media hysteria. And if you really want a conspiracy, this is an effort by the global cabal to stop uprisings in Hong Kong, the yellow vests in France, the uprisings in Venezuela, the nationalist agenda in America, Brexit, etc., etc.

        You really should be more skeptical of governments Casper. C’mon where is the counter revolution hippie in you?

      • Amazona March 31, 2020 / 11:27 am

        Casper has never resembled, not even for a fleeting moment, a rebel. He is and always has been a sheep, a follower, someone blindly controlled by emotions planted in him and then nourished by his masters, who have led him along, fed him lies and hyper-emotional crap, and created a mindless meat puppet obediently twisting the minds of children put in his care, obediently regurgitating the lies and hate he quickly came to love and depend on, and obediently trying in his inept way to spread those lies by dumping them on sites like this.

      • Amazona March 31, 2020 / 11:21 am

        Casper, you are unfailingly stupid and tiresome, and utterly clueless.

        So you chug down the slop fed to you by the Complicit Agenda Media—no surprise there. You are in their target audience—dumb, gullible and controlled by Identity Politics. Then you come here, knowing you are disdained here for the reasons I just gave, to regurgitate the slop you found so tasty, to smugly lecture us on what is either (1) already well known here and the subject of much discussion for weeks, or (2) simply false.

        YOU are the one who has repeatedly tried to insert the word “hoax” into your tiresome spiels on the corona virus. Now you are here with a new lie: Trump went from blowing it off completely a month ago to declaring a national emergency, to saying he is doing a good job if we only lose 100,000 Americans.

        “A month ago” was the end of February. That is when you claim Trump was “blowing off” the implications of the virus spreading. Yet by that time he had cut off incoming travel from virus hotspots, had expanded the corona virus team, had appointed VP Pence to head it up, and had been working actively on the problem for more than a month.

        Yes, the president was working on this problem, consulting experts, shutting down traffic from China and setting up study committees and action groups, way back in January. Remember January? And early February? When the entire U.S,. Senate was required to spend all day, every day, ignoring their real jobs to listen to the whining, sniveling insanity of the drooling Democrat mob in the House.

        And, BTW, he was also using his bully pulpit to encourage the people to avoid panic, to assure them everything that could be done was being done—what you so viciously call “blowing it off”. What a disgusting person you are.

        You cretins are never happy. When the President listens to and acts on the information and advice of experts, you howl that he is somehow wrong or stupid or incompetent when he cites their figures. And you are so thrilled to see him faced with such a challenge, and so giddy at the opportunity to nitpick every word, every syllable, every nuance of everything he does that it is downright ghoulish.

        But then, that is what the Left IS—ghouls..

        So instead of just doing a typical Casper and whining and simpering and sniveling,. why don’t you tell us what you think the president SHOULD be doing. Since a pudgy mediocre former middle school teacher ignorant of our history and our Constitution is now, evidently, qualified to evaluate the performance of the CEO of the nation, do fill us in on what he is doing wrong and what he should be doing to save lives.

      • Amazona March 31, 2020 / 12:57 pm

        The president has to respect and work within the ranges predicted in the models. Therefore, if the spread of the virus can be contained enough to keep the death count within the projected range, by stringent restrictions on activities, that would be a desirable outcome.

        From https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/30/how-many-americans-could-die-from-covid-19-what-the-latest-data-projections-show: The model takes all of the data and applies it to a mathematical function to estimate a range of possibilities. While the average of the outcomes was about 81,000 deaths, the model projected a broad range of between 39,174 and 141,995 deaths due to COVID-19. That is, the AVERAGE outcome would be nearly the same as the death toll in the 2017-18 flu season: That is, “it’s math”.

        To put this number in context, the worst flu that gripped America in four decades was in 2017-2018. During that winter, 80,000 Americans died.

        When the president (1) consults and then acts on the advice of experts and professionals, (2) accepts mathematical calculations, (3) works within the guidelines of both math and science, (4) and tries to use his access to the American public to reassure and project calm while sharing important information with them, doofuses and hatemongers and bottom feeders infest conservative web sites to sneer the lie that he is “…saying he is doing a good job if we only lose 100,000 Americans.”

        I’d say that people like Casper wonder why we have such scorn and contempt for them, but I realize they are so accustomed to disdain and contempt it is just their reality and they don’t pay attention to it. Look at the Waddler, and Schifty—they are impervious to the utter scorn and contempt in which they are held by at the very least half of the American public. Casper has been told in no uncertain terms how he is seen here, with multiple examples of his ignorance and general, pervasive, wrongness, yet he still wriggles under the tent to strut his toxic stupidity.

        “It’s math” he lectures us. Yes, it IS math, and we understand it, and the President understands it. Casper just parrots what his masters say in the Complicit Agenda Media.

      • casper3031 March 31, 2020 / 4:20 pm

        Cluster, I truly hope you are right and I am wrong. I would love to believe we are over the worst and it’s all hype. But the numbers are still rising at an alarming rate. If we were past the peak you would the numbers leveling out. Right now it’s the blue states with the large cities that are getting hit the hardest, in a couple of weeks it will be hitting the rest of the country just as hard. While 3,175 deaths over two months doesn’t sound too bad. Over 3,000 of those were in the last two weeks.

      • casper3031 March 31, 2020 / 7:03 pm

        Amazona, If Trump is doing such great job, then why is it we have more coronavirus cases than any other country in the world, including China and India, countries with much larger populations.

      • Amazona April 1, 2020 / 8:39 pm

        Casper, what’s your point, other than your typical wallowing in Trump Hatred? This nonstop squealing from you is very tiresome, and that’s all it is, all it ever is.

        I notice you haven’t answered my question about what you think he should have done differently. While your herd was tying up the Senate in its effort to overturn an election and unseat a president, that president was consulting experts on the best way to address this new threat to Americans. and taking appropriate action. While your fellow travelers were attacking him and slandering him and libeling him for cutting off travel to China, he was working to limit exposure of Americans to the virus.

        While the head of the Democrat Party was mingling with crowds in Chinatown and telling people to join her, that it was safe to go out and engage in high-density social activity, the president was working to limit travel and exposure for millions of Americans and advising us, quite wisely, to avoid contact with others.

        So why don’t you stop your sniveling and sniping and tell us what the president should have done. Cut off travel to and from China as soon as he heard about the virus? Would that have made you feel better, or would you have been one of those howling about XENOPHOBIA !!!!!

        I’ll tell you what I wish he had done. I wish, from the position of hindsight, he had assigned people to find out just how badly Obama had screwed up and gotten to work to fix it. I’m guessing he just didn’t consider the possibility that Obama could have been so profoundly reckless and downright STUPID as to strip our reserves of the very medical supplies we would need to get through a biological crisis. Clearly, in retrospect he should have, given what we know about Obama. But that’s the only thing I can think of I wish he had done differently.

        Well, that and letting the infantile and disgusting House leadership run amok, but there really wasn’t much he could have done about that but let them indulge their hatred and flaunt their stupidity. It would have helped, probably, to have had a functioning Senate during the time the virus danger was indicating its seriousness, but again he had to let the Dem temper tantrum run its course, in spite of the danger to the nation it posed.

        I do see that, like a diligent though typically dumb Leftist you are buying the crap China is selling about its alleged numbers. Even a lot of Dems are admitting these figures can’t be trusted and that China lies, but as usual you are so far behind the curve you don’t even know it is there. One thing we have learned about you is that you will always be wrong—-and very loud and obnoxious about it.

      • Amazona April 1, 2020 / 9:02 pm

        As usual, it is necessary to check out Casper’s claims. As unpleasant as it is to wade through the slime of the Washington ComPost, it is the link Casper provided, presumably to support his whines though in actuality it does no such thing. I suppose I should congratulate, or at least thank, Casper for so generously illustrating the observation that he is a perfect example of GIGO as well as showing a real addiction to the G part of that equation. Casper has never seen a reeking pile of Leftist garbage too big for him to eagerly chug down, so he can bring it up again and try to contaminate sites like this with it.

        First, he lied. Yes, once again, we catch Cappy lying. His link does not prove that the president is the source of his claim that there are more cases in the United States than in China or India. True, by the time I got toward the end I wasn’t reading every word, being too eager to get out of that cesspool of vicious and ignorant spewing, but I skim pretty well and didn’t see anything like that.

        There were some charming little nuggets in the ComPost, though. Let me share. Aside from what was probably an accidental veering into real journalism: Although Trump’s decision effectively keeps much of the country shut down, he is only empowered to make recommendations. The authority to order closures or other restrictions lies primarily with state and local leaders. it was just one snarling sneer after another, all geared to the Casper mentality of “I don’t care if it’s true as long as it feeds my hate”.

        “For whatever reason, New York got off to a very late start, and we see what happens,” Trump said — an apparent rebuke of Cuomo’s leadership that overlooked the fact that the president himself had dismissed the threat of the virus.

        His daily news conferences have frequently been forums for self-congratulation, with the president repeatedly bragging about the work he and his administration have done responding to the pandemic, despite voluminous evidence that warning signs were ignored for weeks.

        president’s nonchalance about the coronavirus,

        Trump repeatedly dismissed the threat the virus posed

        And so on. Lies, half-truths, spins and general anti-Trump propaganda so transparent that anyone with half a brain and/or a scintilla of integrity could see right through it. Casper, however, not falling into either category, not only laps up every lie and every sneer, he is so enthralled by the cheap thrill of his loathing that he just has to rush out and share it with us.

        What a sour, petty little man he is.

      • Amazona April 1, 2020 / 9:23 pm

        Emphasis mine:

        The Washington Post’s Henry Olsen wrote an op-ed on Tuesday entitled, “Let’s be honest. Impeachment hurt Trump’s response to coronavirus.” Olsen writes, “Democrats and most of the major media were almost entirely focused on impeachment. As a result, the White House was focused on addressing this threat to its survival, not on preparing for a threat from China that might never even materialize.

        Olsen argues that after “nearly four years of irrational Trump hatred,” Trump would be heavily criticized by the Democrats no matter what he did. He notes that “Had he acted decisively in February when he had time, many surely would have accused him of manufacturing a crisis to distract the public from impeachment. Now that we are suffering from that month’s relative inaction, he is attacked for failing to act in advance. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.”

        [Here I note that the president DID “act decisively in February” when the author believes that acting in February would have been “in time”.]

        He reminds us of the Democrats’ fight to subpoena witnesses which would have meant the trial continuing through February.

        Perhaps the most important point he makes is that “No European leader stockpiled COVID-19 tests or ordered ventilators and masks in preparation for the worst.” He concludes with the following:

        The sainted Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau prepared his country no better than Trump prepared the United States.

        The rational analyst sees these facts and notes that it is extraordinarily difficult for politicians to foresee an event unprecedented in modern times and act accordingly. But Trump-phobia, of which impeachment was only the most obvious symptom, prevents too many from seeing the obvious even now.
        From another link, a time line

        January 11: Chinese state media report the first known death from an illness originating in the Wuhan market.

        January 15: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) holds a vote to send articles of impeachment to the Senate. Pelosi and House Democrats celebrate the “solemn” occasion with a signing ceremony, using commemorative pens.

        January 21: The first person with coronavirus arrives in the United States from China, where he had been in Wuhan. [Note: No one knew he was sick, and he didn’t die for several days after he arrived.]

        January 23: The House impeachment managers make their opening arguments for removing President Trump.

        January 23: China closes off the city of Wuhan completely to slow the spread of coronavirus to the rest of China.

        January 30: Senators begin asking two days of questions of both sides in the president’s impeachment trial.

        January 30: The World Health Organization declares a global health emergency as coronavirus continues to spread.

        January 31: The Senate holds a vote on whether to allow further witnesses and documents in the impeachment trial.

        January 31: President Trump declares a national health emergency and imposes a ban on travel to and from China. Former Vice President Joe Biden calls Trump’s decision “hysterical xenophobia … and fear-mongering.”

        February 2: The first death from coronavirus outside China is reported in the Philippines.

        February 2: Donald Trump discussed the possibility of closing borders due to the Coronavirus threat during a Sean Hannity Super Bowl interview.

        February 3: House impeachment managers begin closing arguments, calling Trump a threat to national security.

        February 4: President Trump talks about coronavirus in his State of the Union address; Pelosi rips up every page.

        February 5: The Senate votes to acquit President Trump on both articles of impeachment, 52-48 and 53-47.

        February 5: House Democrats finally take up coronavirus in the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Asia.

        It took a mind-numbing twenty days after the first death from the virus had been reported for the Democrats to even address the issue in Congress because of their sham impeachment articles. For even more reference, President Trump had introduced travel restrictions to China all the way back on January 31st.

  2. Cluster March 30, 2020 / 9:34 am

    And talk about not taking it seriously, as recently as March 9 NY Mayor Bill DeBlasio was telling New Yorkers to continue to ride the subway and live their lives. He’s taking a different tune now. I wonder if the media and Casper have any critiques for the wonderful Democrat Mayor for not taking it seriously and possibly causing the problems they are having now.

    • Retired Spook March 30, 2020 / 11:23 am

      That the people of NYC LISTENED to Mayor DeBlasio says more about them than it does about him. That said, it sucks to live in NYC.

  3. Cluster March 30, 2020 / 9:47 am

    The FULL HYSTERIA media is still bashing Trump (and now Bush) more so than they are objectively covering this health scare which tells me the seriousness is still over exaggerated. Here’s from MSNBC this morning:

    DAVID IGNATIUS: As I think, Joe and Mika, about the comparison of other presidents, obviously, we think what a great national tragedy, our generation, of 9/11.

    George W. Bush didn’t cause 9/11 any more than Donald Trump caused the coronavirus pandemic we’re living through. But in each case, we learned that inadequate preparations were made. That the warning signs that were there, that were flashing red through the summer of 2001, through January and February of 2020, were telling leaders, if they really had paid attention, that it was time to do something.

    That issue of our lack of preparation, to what extent the president and his aides are responsible for the consequences is, I think, going to be at the center of our presidential campaign. We don’t have to litigate it every day. That’s Joe Biden’s job if he’s the nominee–whoever the Democratic nominee is. But I’m struck by the similarity. This is a catastrophe. The warning signs were there. They were flashing red. Not enough was done. It’s not Trump’s fault, but he is responsible for how the government dealt with that information.

    Was Obama accused of “inadequate preparations” when over 12,000 Americans died of the swine flu??


    • Amazona March 30, 2020 / 10:13 am

      You can tell the vultures are desperate if they have to disinter 9/11 to have some old bones to pick on. They are so disgusting. Literally disgusting—they reek of moral rot and intellectual vapidity.

      This kind of wallowing in old grievances might be what lured Casper out of his hidey-hole to come back here to try his old pompous lecture mode on us.

    • Amazona March 30, 2020 / 10:17 am

      You know what? I think President Trump and his aides are quite willing and able to be “…responsible for the consequences…” of the way the administration has handled this crisis. And why not? They acted swiftly and decisively, saving countless lives and keeping the tally of infected and dead a lot lower than it would have been if Dem demands had been met.

      The Left is looking at the successful way this administration has been dealing with this, looking at the way the American public is recognizing and appreciating it, and it is making them very nervous. So, true to form, the compliant Agenda Media are out in front of the campaign lies, setting the stage for them.

  4. Amazona March 30, 2020 / 10:50 am

    The callous Left is so threatened by the fact that the pandemic might not be as bad as they want it/need it to be, so freaked out by the possibility that the drugs Trump mentioned might actually save lives and in so doing reflect well on Trump, so discouraged by the information coming out indicating that the pandemic might not kill enough people to harm Trump’s chances of reelection, that they are scrabbling in the muck trying to find something—-anything—to whine about. From the insignificant little lemmings like Casper sniping that we consider this to be a “wonder drug” (meow) to the NYT taking it to another whole level, the Left is frantic. From this being “Trump’s Katrina” (which is a pretty funny reference, as Bush handled Katrina as well as it could have been handled given the overt sabotage of his efforts by the Left and is an inadvertent admission they are trying to do the same thing here) this is much more likely to be “Trump’s Victory”.

    From the Times, illustrating its desperation to put the worst possible spin on the possibility of a treatment for the virus:

    The Times repeatedly underscores that the treatment has not yet been proven to be effective by officials and highlights “concerns” among health experts about the Trump and Cuomo-promoted medications, which sometimes have dangerous side effects, like “fatal heart arrhythmia and vision loss.” Like The Washington Post’s editorial board, which has accused Trump of causing “damage” by pointing to the treatment as a potential “cure,” the Times suggests Trump, and to a lesser extent Cuomo, may be guilty of “raising false hopes in the American public” and “contribut[ing] to runs on supply and hoarding” of the drugs.

    Just take a look at this. First is the blatant lie, that “…the treatment has not yet been proven to be effective…” From the same linked article: “…According to a report from Trustnodes, France’s move comes after infectious disease specialist Didier Raoult announced new clinical results, which can be accessed here, that show 78 out of 80 patients treated with chloroquine recovered within five days.

    The five-day recovery time is “considerably” faster “than the usual 14 days and for some it can go up to 28 days if they recover at all,..””

    Then it whines about possible ““fatal heart arrhythmia “. Well, the drug has been in common use for many conditions for about four decades now, and its counter-indication for use for people with pre-existing heart conditions is well known and taken into account when prescribed. As for “vision loss” they somehow manage to omit a rather important detail about the side effects of chloroquine on vision: (emphasis mine) There is a chance that retinal damage will occur while taking hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) or chloroquine (Aralen). This is known as hydroxychloroquine retinopathy. This sort of damage occurs only in 1 out of 5,000 people who take the drug for five years or more.

    Gee, doesn’t it seem that an honest reference to possible vision loss would include the rather important information that so far this has occurred “…only in 1 out of 5,000 people who take the drug for five years or more.?

    Has anyone suggested treating corona virus with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine FOR FIVE YEARS OR MORE?

    OK, I am a retired rancher out in Flyover Country, one of those despised redneck ignoramuses who should not be allowed to help choose our president, yet even I could, in about 20 seconds, look up “hydroxychloroquine and vision loss” and learn that it is a rare side effect of the drug when the drug is used FOR FIVE YEARS OR MORE. So that takes us to the question: Is the average agri-American smarter than the vaunted New York Times reporter, or just more honest? (I’m going with “both”, based on years of evidence.)

    As for … runs on supply and hoarding” of the drugs. they are prescribed, so it’s not like hysterics can run to the pharmacy and strip the shelves of the drug, like they have with the flavor of the day that gets the hysterics wound up and twitchy. (Yesterday it was Tylenol.)


    • Cluster March 30, 2020 / 3:13 pm

      You’ve been posting a lot about this drug as something that could be to solution and I read an article out of NY this morning wherein a doctor had 700 patients he was treating with hydroxychloriquine and he says that all but two patients recovered remarkably well and that only 2 of the 700 needed further treatment.

      • Amazona March 30, 2020 / 5:27 pm

        There are two vital takeaways from the articles about hydroxychloriquine—one is that it does seem to offer a way to deal with the virus and one is the dismay of the media that there might be something out there that will diminish the death toll and therefore the damage done to Trump.

        The first is cautious optimism and hope: The second is ghoulish and disgusting.

  5. Cluster March 30, 2020 / 12:05 pm

    We have completely different expectations of what a President is for:

    Joy Reid: “In a time of calamity, a president is the ultimate crisis manager. We pay him … to manage emergencies for us, to plan for emergencies.”

    “And by that job description, at the moment, America, functionally, has no president.”

    • Amazona March 30, 2020 / 5:36 pm

      Of course a Lib wants a Daddy President, who will rush in and fix everything. What is upsetting the Left now is that the president is differentiating between what the federal government can or should do and what is really the responsibility of the states. They not only don’t want to hear that, it is a totally foreign concept to them.

      But what it really comes down to is that while the top dogs of the International Left fear Trump the foot soldiers just hate him—hate him with a blinding white-hot totally irrational passion that overrides any fragment of reason or dignity or basic decency. And that lets them spew nonsense like this.

      Keep in mind that if he did more, they would howl that he is a Nazi, a dictator, a tyrant. If he does less he is AWOL. They each reserve the right to define the presidency in any way they choose, and it changes from day to day but always comes back to their primitive Identity Politics.

  6. Cluster March 30, 2020 / 12:13 pm

    There are two headlines today over at Townhall that let’s us know exactly what’s going on. The first headline:

    Crisis Surge: Trump Hits New Highs in WaPo/ABC News Poll

    And the second:

    Nancy Pelosi Just Threatened President Trump With Another Investigation

    Like Spook said the other day … this is largely political.

    • jdge1 March 30, 2020 / 6:20 pm

      A part of me hopes Pelosi is really that stupid. After all of the crap she tried to drop on Trump and missed, she and her cohorts are again caught with their pants down around their ankles in an effort not look as corrupt and incompetent as they really are. Every time they tried to damage Trump, it boomerangs back at them exposing their own flaws that would likely have otherwise gone unnoticed. I’m rather taken back at the left pushing the gas pedal to the floor, heading for a cliff. For decades they played a solid game of politics, continually moving the line to the left, slowly building strength by consuming all controls. With Trump countering and confounding them at every turn, it seems they’ve opted for some of the most destructive courses of action ever taken by a political party. Buying more popcorn.

      • Amazona March 30, 2020 / 10:25 pm

        I’m definitely hoping Pelosi, et al, keep pushing. They are so tone-deaf, so enveloped in their stinky little bubbles of hate and ego, they just don’t seem to realize what they are doing to their brand, their party and the progress they have made.

        They are so stupid, they don’t seem to realize they are digging themselves in deeper and deeper. I wonder if it has occurred to them that campaign strategists in every state are putting together ads against Dems running for Congressional seats, especially those running for reelection, pointing out the amount of time and taxpayer money they have spent—particularly tying up the entire Senate in January when the corona virus issue was heating up. That, plus stalling the recovery package and trying to pack it with Dem pork and pet projects, ought to be very damaging to them.

        So go, Nancy, go! Drag Schifty out of whatever hidey-hole he has been cowering in, pull the Waddler’s pants back up to his armpits and head back into the fray! Though I don’t know what you can “investigate” as Trump has been totally transparent regarding the virus situation, Russia is dead in the water especially with the new oil showdown between Russia and the Saudis dragging us down with them, Ukraine is simmering along in the background while this other stuff has been going on and only a fool would want to stir that pot, and I can’t imagine what traction she thinks she can get anywhere except the swamp of her base and the lapdog Agenda Media—and the media are taking some pretty bad hits.

  7. Cluster March 30, 2020 / 3:10 pm

    This statement is reprehensible. Our media is more of a threat to this country than most other outside threats combined. This moron chick from MSNBC just told Americans how she sees the media’s coverage of Trump. A “team sport” to take him out.

    “I have to say thank you to Jeremy of CNN for giving me the opportunity to ask my second question. We know now that covering President Trump sometimes is like a team sport. We have to have each other’s back in the press corps and Jeremy had my back today.”


    • Retired Spook March 30, 2020 / 5:09 pm

      I don’t think most in the media have a clue as to the reaction of normal Americans to rhetoric like that. I believe the vast majority of Americans still value fair play. I have a feeling that a lot of people, even people who don’t particularly care for Trump, see that and their reaction is, “I’m going to vote for Trump just to spite you contemptible mental midgets in the media.”

  8. Amazona March 30, 2020 / 6:16 pm

    Gov. Steve Bullock of Montana, a Democrat, explained that officials in his state were attempting to do “contact tracing” — tracking down people who have come into contact with those who have tested positive — but they were struggling because “we don’t have adequate tests,” according to an audio recording of the conversation obtained by The New York Times.

    Whoever made this recording available to the NYT ought to be banned from inclusion on any further phone briefings. And if it was Bullock, who is running for the Senate this year against a Republican incumbent, this should be hung around his neck as proof he is irresponsible and untrustworthy and trying to use this crisis for personal gain.

  9. M. Noonan March 30, 2020 / 10:51 pm

    No comment on Bakersfield Cookies? Come on, guys; that is a belly laugh the first time you see it.

    • Cluster March 31, 2020 / 9:15 am

      OK Mark that was funny … the Governor of Arizona has issued a stay at home order for the entire month of April and I already don’t know what to do with myself. There are reportedly about 1,000 cases in AZ and we are locking down the entire State. 5 million people live in Phoenix and there are 1,000 cases in the State. Let me say that again, 5 million people in Phoenix and 1,000 cases. I would wager to say that more than 1,000 people in Phoenix have AIDS and/or the seasonal flu and no precautions were ever put in place. .

    • Retired Spook March 31, 2020 / 9:31 am

      There’s a similar video going around that involves a donut and oral sex for a roll of toilet paper. I’m glad we can still laugh about it.

      • Amazona March 31, 2020 / 11:23 am

        I liked the email that said

        “Some people are reduced to trading sex for food.
        I got a Klondike bar.”

  10. Cluster March 31, 2020 / 9:32 am

    As our governments get more authoritarian by the day, it may be time for an old fashioned American revolt:


    Folks let me remind you that America was founded by people who defied authoritarian rule and put their life on the line everyday. This country still has men and women in the CIA, FBI, the Military, and police forces across the country who put their lives on the line everyday and willingly without every thinking twice about it yet here we are today hiding under our beds from a flu virus.

    This is not who we are. Life is full of perils and I think that you still have a better chance of dying in a car accident than you do this virus. Don’t be so afraid of death that you forget to live. We should not allow governments to control us this easily.

    • Amazona March 31, 2020 / 12:20 pm

      On the other hand, Cluster, in a population of weak, fretful snowflakes who simply will not act for the greater good, I think the government has to step in. When I have to go to the grocery store I want some confidence that the other people there have been prudent and careful, and sadly it sometimes takes some degree of force to compel people to do what the rest of us do out of respect for our fellow citizens as well as concern for our own well being.

      We have become a nation which takes privilege for granted but is clueless about the other side of that coin—duty. As long as an order is lawful, serves a legitimate purpose and is reasonable I have no problem with fining people for violating it. I’m more tired of weak, whiny entitlement babies than I am of the occasional overreach of government, at least when I can understand the reasoning behind the overreach. Emphasis on “occasional”.

      I also point out the foolishness of taking a headline at face value. No, people will not be jailed “for leaving home”. They will be jailed for ignoring the orders to limit contact, etc. We should know by now that media headlines do not exist to inform, but to steer people into desired emotional reactions.

      • Cluster March 31, 2020 / 12:50 pm

        Anecdotal story but it says a lot … I have an agent in my office whose sister is an RN nurse in Chicago and she says that not one person in her hospital is infected, neither patients or staff. She also says that this virus has been around since last November and the vast majority of patients suffer mild conditions. She is a Democrat but thinks this virus is mainly political …. and I tend to agree with her.

  11. jdge1 March 31, 2020 / 1:31 pm

    This was predicted as a possible outcome long before the ban on plastic bags was out in place. Many places are now banning reusable bags.

    • Retired Spook March 31, 2020 / 1:47 pm

      The real problem, though, was that the reusable bags people that replaced plastic and paper were disease vectors – something that all the politicians banning them knew or should have known. San Francisco (of course) was the American city that led the way on plastic bag bans in 2007. Not long afterward, a study revealed that the bans increased by 50% the number of deaths from foodborne illnesses:

      Researchers in America found that a ban on plastic bags in San Francisco in 2007 may have increased deaths from food poisoning by over 50 per cent in a year.

      Oopsie! Those pesky unintended consequences. Oh well, what’s a few deaths when the survival of the planet is at stake?

  12. Cluster March 31, 2020 / 2:46 pm

    Does everyone remember the Durham investigation?? And Deep State crimes? Funny how that got real quiet.

    • M. Noonan March 31, 2020 / 3:33 pm

      Still going on, I guess. Once we emerge from this…

  13. Retired Spook April 1, 2020 / 4:31 pm

    I was just running some numbers on Coronavirus deaths in this country. Exponential growth is great when it’s your money; Covid-19 not so much. Indiana reported the first Covid-19 death on March 16th. Today the death toll is at 65. That’s a doubling every 3 days. If that rate were to continue for 30 more days, the Indiana death toll on May 1st would be 40,000. NYC, which was reporting a doubling every 3 days a week or so ago has actually sped up. Their first death was reported on March 14th. Today they are at around 1,100. A doubling every 2 days would put them at 512 today, so they’re on track to double in a little less than every 2 days. If that rate continues for 30 days, 8,400,000 NYC residents will be dead, or virtually the entire city. Now obviously that’s not going to happen, but you get the idea just how bad this could be.

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