Some Never Trump “Conservative” wrote a whine about how Trump is destroying the global order which was founded by FDR and sustained by all President’s through Obama. To which I responded: good. The global order established in the wake of WWII was grossly immoral and essentially made the United States the whipping boy of the world – we were to pour out our blood and treasure to please everyone but ourselves.
I used to sign on to that, though when I did I didn’t put it that way. Now, I don’t sign on to it…because I’ve looked at the results and I’ve changed my views.
Think about what this global order has done:
1. Didn’t force Russia to disgorge central Europe after WWII. We could have. We had nukes, they didn’t. But even absent that, we had the vastly more powerful military force.
2. Allowed the beastly Communists to win in China. How’s that worked out for us, long term?
3. Refused to fight for victory in Korea.
5. Forced the European powers to give up their global role – and then we whined for decades about how they weren’t taking on a global role.
6. Sided with savages against Civilization in Suez.
7. Stood aside while one Third World brute after another seized his nation, looted his treasury and massacred his population.
8. Made it official policy that we wouldn’t fight the USSR unless it was a gigantic nuclear massacre of both our populations.
9. Vietnam.
10. De-industrialization of the United States.
11. Importing, lauding and often funding amoral nincompoops who were at war with the moral values that made America the greatest nation in human history.
12. Placing our own poor on welfare while we shipped out their jobs to even cheaper labor overseas.
13. Staying in a UN which is a mockery of human decency.
14. Allowed our Universities to be captured by bigoted Communist zealots.
On and on I can go. You can’t name one thing good this global order has accomplished. Its all been a disgusting descent into a nightmare world of high-tech barbarism. I want nothing more to do with it. I want us to get rid of it by the quickest means available. Thank God for President Trump – intentionally or not, he’s ripped the lid off the nauseating stew and now we can see it for what it is.
Blogs For Victory 
” Newsom: Trump Has Met ‘Every Single Direct Request That He Was Capable of Meeting’”
We pretty much knew that, but it still won’t shut up the majority of the leftist.
” Alec Baldwin to Trump Supporters: ‘Don’t Bother Voting. Stay Home’”
Do people actually listen to these blowhards?
Nah, the Baldwin/Milano/Behar crowd is just bleating whatever pops into their tiny little minds, and this increasingly shows their growing panic and desperation. They are sliding backwards down a slippery slope into even more irrelevance and they know it. Behar is hinting that she may quit The Spew to write a “tell-all book”. As if anything that ever entered that echo chamber of her mind was not immediately blurted out.
” Poll: 72% of Sports Fans Won’t Attend Games Without a Coronavirus Vaccine”
Once again, made up statistics. Especially with regard to US football, I believe people are staying away because those who run the league are allowing it to mock the rest of the country. Secondly, I wouldn’t trust any big pharma coming out with a COVID vaccine any time soon.
”Shocking Facts About WHO Chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus
The director-general of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)-influenced World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, is not a medical doctor and is a member of a Marxist-Leninist Ethiopian political party that analysts have listed as a perpetrator of terrorism.”
Anyone else actually NOT shocked?
”Steven Mosher: Waive China’s Sovereign Immunity in the U.S., Seize Its Assets”
I think we’re on to something here.
I agree with you 100% Mark and another reason why the “Global Order” persisted for so long is because SO MANY people were getting rich off of our foreign aid, including our ruling class. We have seen the evidence with Hunter Biden but I am convinced that is just the tip of the iceberg. We have seen how our ruling class has acted in this country over the last 30 years, the Bush’s twins were handed high salary jobs right out of college, Chelsea Clinton was rewarded financially for nothing, Jenna McCain has secured a high paying job, Harry Reid’s boys became fabulously wealthy off of land deals, Nancy Pelosi’s son is incredibly rich and on and on and on. And that’s largely just the domestic grift they were involved in, John Kerry, Mitt Romney, and Nancy Pelosi also have children siphoning off foreign aid money.
Follow the money
And now we have a virus to deal with which has sure helped the Global Order hasn’t it? Citizen uprisings across the globe are down, world leaders are printing and spending money like crazy and how much of this stimulus money will end up in their pockets? The answer is a lot. The Global order foisted this virus upon us, tried to kill Boris Jonson and are now lining their pockets with stimulus money while we all sit home and wait for crumbs. We are rubes.
For this to turn around we all have to call this for what it is … manufactured bullshit. Covid-19 has yet to reach seasonal flu numbers but we sure have allowed them to scare us into socialism haven’t we? There are 368 total cases in the entire State of Montana, Why is the entire State shut down? We have been lied to on an epic scale by The Global Order.
I don’t think we are “scared into socialism”. We may be being herded into getting used to authoritarian governance, but we can put a halt to that, and if anything I think the experience may make a lot of people more aware of the danger and unpleasantness of that kind of control over our daily lives.
Cowardice and Ignorance has fueled our recent panic aided and abetted by 24/7 sensationalized news. It’s quite a thing to behold. There is not one infected person in my town yet some people in my town are acting as if the apocalypse has arrived. I am embarrassed for them. Too many people either forget or are ignorant of just how many people die all the time. Here is what happened in 2017 according to the CDC:
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173
The flu killed 55.672 people in 2017. How many has Covid claimed so far? About 18,000 right? Seems normal.160,000 people died of lower respiratory issues, Do you remember hearing one news story about that?
We are being lied to.
And, once again, I offer my speculation that this is because the virus epidemic has given the administration the opportunity to test itself and its own preparedness as well as the character and resilience of the populace.
I think it is an important test and way overdue, but a test that could not have been undertaken without the stalking horse of the virus spread. I’m fine with it.
As for the paranoia and outrage, I come back to the question, if it is a fraud then who benefits? This has had the strong possibility of putting Donald Trump’s entire reelection prospects at risk—does anyone think he would do this casually, with no compelling reason? Does we think the man is stupid? (Casper, this is not an invitation for you to waddle in with any of your nonsense.) WHY would a man who is a combination of dedicated businessman/capitalist and ambition, including the ambition to remain the president, allow much less aid a massive fraud upon the public that has so many pitfalls for him personally as well as for the country?
My personal belief is that he knows a lot that we don’t know, including potential threats to this nation for which we are woefully unprepared, and that he is navigating the shoals of this situation as carefully as he can, balancing the need to school the public on what it takes to protect ourselves in case of a major biological attack as well as educating the various state and local governments on what they need to do to be effective with the corollary damage to the economy. I personally believe that if the ONLY threat to the nation, current or looming, is this virus it would have been handled much differently.
Aside from the economic damage, I see a lot of good coming out of this. I think it is a big whup upside the head for people, who now realize how vulnerable we/they are, how unprepared for a crisis that falls far short of a catastrophe as we still have power, hospitals, food and gasoline. I’ll bet that most, if not all, have thought even if only briefly “Wow–what would I have been able to do if we had lost power, if the grocery stores shut down, if the hospitals were not staffed, if we couldn’t get gas? What if the water supply was cut off?” True, most of us will return to the way we have been living, but not all. Hopefully a lesson has been learned by some politicians—for example, there is a reason for having a couple thousand critical medical machines, so don’t auction them off instead of maintaining them.
If the only good to come from it is a kick in the butt to tell us how stupid it is to put our national security, our drugs and medical supplies and a huge part of our economy in the control of a nation which will benefit by destroying us in the long run it will have been worth it—-if we change, anyway—-
I think it is a wake-up call for the state and local government heads, who evidently have not considered preparedness for crisis a major part of their responsibilities.
President Bush warned of a pandemic in 2005 and the need to be prepared and then the 2009 swine flu exposed the governments lack of preparedness. President Obama warned of a pandemic in 2014 (after the swine flu) and the need for the country to be prepared for the next one and again we find ourselves and our supply chains woefully inadequate so I hope you are right that this is a wake up call, but I just don’t think we learn lessons very well.
I think THIS president is learning it. If he is followed by a Dem, all bets are off.
Global Order tentacles are all over this virus and the goal is to destroy the United States:
America has a history of settler colonization and capitalism that ruthlessly exploited natural resources and people, typically the poor, the migratory, the black and the brown. That history manifests today in our impulse to hoard, knowing that we live in an economy of self-reliance and scarcity; in our dependence on the cheap labor of women and racial minorities; and in our lack of sufficient systems of health care, welfare, universal basic income and education to take care of the neediest among us.
How long do we let his go on?
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/randy-hall/2020/04/10/nyt-columnist-covid-19-killing-myth-us-greatest-country-all
Well, Cluster, as long as we live in a nation governed by our Constitution, we “let this go on” as long as it goes on. This is the downside of freedom of speech.
There IS something we could do, but so far no one has done it. That is, buy a national platform and start to address the lies and the smears in prime time on network TV. Back when See BS was struggling to stay afloat after the “fake but accurate” mess I asked why some billionaire conservative, or consortium of billionaire conservatives, didn’t buy the network. To me, it was basic math.
Setting aside the available content on cable channels, to simplify, if the American viewing public wants to watch TV they are stuck, for the most part, with utter crap. The number of TV shows that are is not promoting homosexuality, smut and violence, increasingly with vile language, is tiny. Even a detective show is likely to have a scene of a near-naked woman writhing on a stripper pole. The standby shows that never die—–Dateline, for example—now just rehash old murders. I have seen mainstream prime time TV shows going into detail about sexual deviancy, in great detail—CSI is notorious for its filth, presented as mere investigation of crimes, as its “investigators” seemed to need to spend a lot of time in strip clubs, a commercial panty-sniffing operation and so on. I figured a station which showed good quality entertainment without sexual deviancy, gratuitous violence, bad language or Leftist political content would have a pretty good shot at getting more than a third of network viewing.
Even without buying a network, we should be able to get a prime time network show, in the nature of Dateline or 60 Minutes (or what they used to be) bold enough to take on the media liars and the political machinations that are dragging this country down. Who would watch? If it was well written and produced and acted, probably most conservatives, as well as a LOT of Lefties, who would watch just to scratch that Outrage Itch and find something to howl about, it would probably get a huge market share.
Putting on my Rod Serling voice, I intone: ” Imagine, if you will, a show which discusses the true purpose of real journalism and compares it to the way the press has become an arm of a political movement”. The word “firestorm” wouldn’t even come close to describing the reaction, particularly from those described in the episode as representing the depths to which journalism has sunk. The shrill cries out fury would make ears bleed around the country. Every Leftist talking head would be exploding, they would be nearly incoherent with rage. But what would be the result?
It would be kind of like Harvey Weinstein explaining why what he did wasn’t really rape and besides they liked it and it was just how business is done, blah blah blah. The explanations and the defenses would just either make the point they are trying to deny or raise more questions. So the next show could address the complaints about the first one. It’s not as if the archives are not stuffed with examples of egregious journalistic malpractice. Every defense would open a new door to more examples. I think this kind of exposure and analysis of the falsehoods fed to the public would reinforce the beliefs of those who already know or have some idea about them, change the minds of many, and generate so much discussion from those it upset that the end result would be a good one for the Right.
In other words, such a show would be the seed that, once planted, would bear fruit in many ways—-analysis of the ways our Agenda Media have blatantly lied to the public to promote and advance a Leftist agenda (naming names, of course) all the way to identifying this pattern in other nations under the tyranny of Leftist governance. Once the word “propaganda” is attached to Leftist “journalism” and then reinforced by example after example, those members of the Agenda Media would be severely damaged.
A national conservative platform is essential going forward I agree with that but I think you’re going to see a massive public revolt against these draconian measures very soon. And that’s where it starts … with the people. There are already small local up risings of people around the country wanting to go back to work and resume life and take the risk of dying. This is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people and we control our destiny. Not the media, nor the government.
I stopped at a WalMart today and it was packed. A very few people were wearing masks, and they looked kind of sheepish, unlike the panicked paranoid mask wearers of last week. People kept their distance, but otherwise it seemed like business as usual. I stopped at an auto parts store and they had signs up asking people to stand behind a line till the clerk stepped back from the counter. I thought that was reasonable. It was a minuet—he stepped back, I stepped forward, I stepped back, he stepped forward. It seemed to work pretty well.
It’s not about an individual saying “I am willing to take the risk of dying”. It is about an individual who doesn’t care if he infects other people.
It’s similar to the argument about enforcing motorcycle helmet laws. My position is, and was, that if a guy is willing to smear his brains all over the highway because he likes the wind in his hair, that’s his business. My objection is being expected to pay for lifetime care for him when he is brain damaged, as well as having to support his family.
So I draw a line behind willing to risk personal danger and being willing to force other people to pay the costs of my decision.
Check this headline out hahahahahaha
Being a person of color isn’t a risk factor for coronavirus. Living in a racist country is
Evidently white people are so incredibly powerful that black people just don’t have a chance.
I am so f**ing tired of these people
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/10/opinion/being-person-color-isnt-risk-factor-coronavirus-living-racist-country-is/
The more these brainless loons babble this kind of stupid nonsense, the better. They have gone past the point where someone reasonable might think “you know, that kind of make sense” well into “that’s the stupidest damned thing I have ever heard”.
”Increased incentive to misdiagnose is provided by Medicare, which pays hospitals an additional $13,000 for each COVID-19 patient and an additional $39,000 per COVID-19 patient on a ventilator. Physicians are being officially coached in writing by HHS on how to fill out death certificates indicating the COVID virus as the cause of death with no physical evidence required. ”
Why should this be a surprise? Anyone else skeptical of death rates attributed to COVID-19? My son talked to a doc in the NYC area who said he is handling dozens of COVID-19 cases and found that ventilator causing more problems than solving – in ALL of the cases he’s been involved with. Follow the money.
THIS (false reporting of cause of illness or death) is fraud and must be investigated and prosecuted.
And it is coming out in several places that less invasive breathing assistance works better. Rush did a whole thing on that the other day.
Have you seen some of the more authoritarian governors wanting to arrest people for violating stay at home orders?? Well it’s time we show them and the world who the f**k we are. We are Americans and we DO NOT sacrifice our liberty for safety and security. It’s time to defy authority and tell the WHO to shove their pandemic up their ass.
That’s fine, till some A-hole infects someone vulnerable who dies.
There’s the guy who goes to see his family no matter what the rules are, but there is also the guy who goes out everywhere and is belligerent about it.
We feel pretty safe when we drive because there is a kind of contract among drivers, which is usually followed, so the elaborate traffic patterns of traffic circles and four way stops and lane changing and so on works well. I am seeing people starting to fall into patterns related to distancing and seeming pretty comfortable with it. I go where I want to go, when I want to go there, but I am also careful and respectful.
If a restaurant were to reopen with fewer tables, farther apart, I would go if I knew the kitchen staff was wearing gloves and masks, even if I had to go pick up my order at a counter instead of having it delivered to the table. It doesn’t have to be an All or Nothing scenario.
I would save my anti-authoritarian acting out for the Lefties who try to use this to impose permanent restrictions, as well as for those trying to use it to ram through entitlements and additional spending on pet projects.
There is no reason why Montana is under the same restrictions as New York. We could open up probably 60% of this country with some distancing and safeguards in place and have little risk. Then the more effected areas could open up later and more gradually. And there is no question that people with health issues should probability stay home for a while.
We could open up probably 60% of this country with some distancing and safeguards in place and have little risk.
Agreed. I’ll be interested to see what the president says when he discusses his ideas for recovery.
… as well as for those trying to use it to ram through entitlements and additional spending on pet projects.
That’s already happened.