Deep State Deep Sixed Open Thread

Trump is at long last getting rid of the people who have been undercutting him from within – the Deep State operatives and Obama holdovers…Ric Grennell is especially cleaning house in the intelligence agencies. And what is ol’ Mitt’s response?

The firings of multiple Inspectors General is unprecedented; doing so
without good cause chills the independence essential to their purpose. It is a threat to accountable democracy and a fissure in the constitutional balance of power.

It just reeks of surrender – but, also, sheer ignorance. The Executive branch isn’t supposed to balance itself…Congress and the Court balance the Executive…to have people in your own Administration who are working against you isn’t balance, it is a negation of an Executive. We elected Trump to be the guy in charge of the Executive. per the Constitution, there is only one person in charge of that branch: the President. He decides 100% of what Executive branch policy will be and everyone in the Executive branch has to shut up and soldier, or quit. That is how it is supposed to be – and it is how it must be. Having IG’s who see their job as curbing the President – rather than rooting out lawbreakers and people refusing to carry out Administration policy – is insane. It must be stopped – and I’m glad Trump is finally stopping it.

Along these lines it has been noticed that in the whole Trump-Russia charade, Mitch McConnell has been rather AWOL. Don’t get me wrong: he’s good for a lot of things, but on this he’s been absent…and thus allowing people like the now-former Senate intel chief Burr have his way…and Burr’s way was to provide cover for the Deep State. Now that Burr is out of the committee due to his sordid financial trickery (and it seems to be raking in Feinstein, at least a bit), it is time for McConnell to think anew and act anew – as President Trump urged:

Mitch, I love you, but this is 100% true. Time is running out. Get tough and move quickly, or it will be too late. The Dems are vicious, but got caught. They MUST pay a big price for what they have done to our Country. Don’t let them get away with this!

Mitch McConnell has spent years pretending as though the Russian collusion hoax never happened. If he thinks he’s going to keep the Senate majority and confirm more judges without addressing the hoax and holding the hoaxers accountable, he’s lost his mind.

McConnell is old school, as I think we all know. Not a bad guy. Has some genuine Conservative views. Not a crook like a Burr or a Clinton is…but, still, someone who doesn’t want to rock the system…the various gravy trains which flow through DC and the corporate world and which he and his family have benefited from. But now is a time for choosing: them, or us? If McConnell chooses us, then not only will his position as Majority Leader be solidified but he’ll be an American hero. If he chooses them…then all bets are off.

From The Washington Examiner:

The sheriff of Fresno County, California, said she is unable to enforce the state’s stay-at-home order because she’s too busy rearresting accused criminals who were released due to the state’s new “zero-dollar bail” policy.

Some people are getting a little too frisky and talking of Red California. Ain’t gonna happen, folks. California will go for Biden by 20 points in November. But the combination of lockdown insanity and things like no-bail for criminals (and laws which essentially allow someone to steal $900 worth of stuff and them come back the next day and steal another $900 worth) might be wearing out the Democrats’ welcome even in deep Blue California. But this might help us flip a few House seats in November…and California will eventually become, if not Red, at least Purple. At the end of the day, Latino voters might well be in favor of lots of Progressive ideology, especially as it relates to government spending…but no one but rich, white Liberals favor things like letting criminals out of jail while locking up moms for taking their kids to the park. The Democrats are working hard to turn Texas Blue and they are having some success…but not as much as they want. But, meanwhile, Florida is the next state to go Red and even California isn’t the firm fortress Democrats think it is.

54 thoughts on “Deep State Deep Sixed Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook May 17, 2020 / 9:29 am

    no one but rich, white Liberals favor things like letting criminals out of jail while locking up moms for taking their kids to the park.

    Too long for a bumper sticker, but it would make a great billboard.

  2. Cluster May 17, 2020 / 3:00 pm

    My son told me that Elon Musk just tweeted out “take the red pill” and of course I had to ask him what that meant lol and he told me that that means Elon is done with the Democrat Party. After how they have treated him in CA I can see why. I did see that the Democrat Governor of CO invited Elon to take a look at CO when he was being interviewed by Don Lemon to which Don scolded him for inviting someone to his state that “defies orders” … no kidding Don actually said that.

    I think the Democrats are losing a lot of voters.

    • Retired Spook May 17, 2020 / 3:10 pm

      Don scolded him for inviting someone to his state that “defies orders”

      What a good little Nazi.

      Our church re-opened this morning. We have a small congregation — 50 on a good sunday, so “social distancing” wasn’t a problem. Felt weird not to shake anyone’s hand or give someone a hug. The were around 30 in attendance and not a single person was wearing a mask. I think when this is all over a thorough review of policies and procedures is going to reveal that masks were not only a huge waste of money but also made a lot of people sick.

      • Cluster May 17, 2020 / 3:59 pm

        … a thorough review of policies and procedures is going to reveal that masks Democrats were not only a huge waste of money but also made a lot of people sick.

        Thought I would add something else that is a huge waste of money and makes people sick. LOL

    • Amazona May 17, 2020 / 6:19 pm

      The Democrat governor of Colorado is desperate to find some way to make up for the multi-billion dollar shortfall in tax revenue that was lurking, thanks to him and his bait-and-switch Dem legislature, essentially banning oil and gas exploration and production. This virus panic has been a boon to him, as now he can blame it for the decline in oil and gas revenue, in addition to the other benefits the Left is reaping, or trying to reap, from the pandemic. He’d be thrilled to replace some of that money with anything, and if the “anything” fits his political philosophy more the better.

      I noticed that Musk only named warm states—he doesn’t strike me as a cold-weather kind of guy.

      • Cluster May 18, 2020 / 8:37 am

        True, TX or NV seem to be his preferred destinations but I liked your Gov. openly courting him on Don Lemon’s show. Don was not pleased hahaha. This is though a fairly significant move by a very popular and well known “progressive”:

        On Sunday morning, Tesla CEO Elon Musk gave an indication of how fed-up he is with the leftist governance of his state of California, apparently urging followers on Twitter to join the conservatives of America as he tweeted succinctly, “Take the red pill.”

        I do believe Democrats are losing a lot of voters but they are still currently drunk with power and so enamored with themselves that they don’t realize it yet. Having three authoritarian Governors in the swing states of PA, MI, and WI was a godsend for the conservative agenda.

        And after Trump called Obama “grossly incompetent” yesterday, the media is in full attack mode. This is a confrontation that has been in the making since the “hanging chads” in Florida in 2000 and it’s now unavoidable.

      • Cluster May 18, 2020 / 9:09 am

        Hahahaha, so Ivanka responded positively to Musk and then they were both responded to in typical Democrat fashion:

        Ivanka’s reply elicited a harsh reply from Lilly Wachowski, one of the creators of “The Matrix”: “F*** both of you.”

        I don’t think Democrats are winning over the “hearts and minds” of Americans.

      • Amazona May 18, 2020 / 10:49 am

        It’s not just a warmer climate—Texas and Nevada have no state income tax, while Colorado’s is a flat 4.63% and probably due to rise thanks to the Dem legislature.

        They have just spent what is probably close to 45 million dollars to destroy valuable community assets like the Convention Center and the Budweiser agricultural event center to convert them into expensive medical care centers for an onslaught of COVID-19 patients, where they are now not only standing empty and not even staffed but unavailable to generate tax revenue through their usual event schedules. While some of us might have considered choosing a hospital in each of the targeted areas and designating it a COVID center, seeing as how they are purpose-built buildings with existing hospital rooms, isolation wards, intensive care units, operating rooms, piped-in oxygen, monitoring equipment, nurses stations, AC and heating, ventilation systems and even kitchens and cafeterias, and having a plan in place to simply put other patients in (currently nearly empty) neighboring hospitals, the decision was made to raid the treasury for a massive boondoggle to create unnecessary redundancy as well as the need to spend at least that much to return these buildings to their intended uses, if they even decide to do that.

        But what could typify the Dem attitude toward financial planning better than looking at dramatically reduced revenue and then deciding to spend more money?

      • Amazona May 18, 2020 / 11:12 am

        More on the Colorado “repurposing” of community assets, allegedly to prepare for a massive onslaught of COVID-19 patients. I say “allegedly” because a little more digging unearthed what is, to me, a very unsettling statement that seems to signal a very upsetting agenda.

        Even if the convention center is never used for hospital patients, Hancock said it would still be repurposed for other needs.

        “If we’re not using them for medical, then we’ll find a way to use them for our most vulnerable that need shelter that continue to need shelter,” he said.

        The state has signed a lease with backing from FEMA to pay the City and County of Denver $1.8 million a month for use of the convention center..

        When I read this, what I get out of it is this: The state (ie: Polis and his radical lapdog legislature) are paying close to $2 million a month, backed by our federal tax dollars, for ongoing rent for something they know is probably not going to be needed for its stated purpose but which will then be used to house “our most vulnerable that need shelter and continue to need shelter”.

        In other words, to house the homeless.

        I still can’t find out what it is costing to retrofit the Convention Center.

        It certainly looks like, in a typical Leftist end run around the voters, Colorado is simultaneously losing valuable community assets that also brought in millions of dollars in tax revenues to provide ongoing “shelter” for “our most vulnerable that need shelter and continue to need shelter”. I have been calling this radical legislature the Bait and Switch legislature, as none of them ran on his or her true agenda but immediately after inauguration swept through a list of obviously prearranged bills that instantly shoved Colorado right into the forefront of radical Leftist governance. Now they are up to the same shenanigans again working hand in glove with a Leftist Denver mayor.

      • Amazona May 18, 2020 / 11:19 am

        No one is talking about the future of the equestrian and agricultural facility called The Ranch, in northern Colorado. I did find this, after other information a few weeks ago stating that the cost of conversion was about 13.5 million dollars.

        According to previous reporting, The Ranch facility could have accommodated up to 1,060 beds. Rent for the space will be $24,500 a day, according to the lease. The tab for April will be $565,100; in May, it will be $761,670.

        A $1.54 million grant from the Federal Emergency Management Agency is being used to to pay the lease, according to Sen. Cory Gardner’s office, which announced the grant on Monday.

        In other words, the Feds are using our tax dollars to pay for about two months rent on this facility, which is unoccupied and unstaffed. I wonder who will pick up the tab after this month. And more to the point, I wonder if there is any intent to return it to its original use, and/or to use it to dump a thousand homeless people on the community—to be housed and fed and cared for with more of our tax dollars.

      • Cluster May 18, 2020 / 4:48 pm

        There is so much grift and corruption going on with the first stimulus bill that Nancy got excited and wanted to throw another $3 trillion at it. It’s completely insane. Thankfully the Senate finally found a spending package they don’t like.

        The Covid numbers today still don’t even come close to “pandemic” levels and our reaction to this has been embarrassing. I do think though that it has served a larger purpose … it woke us up to how badly our establishment class has sold us out to China over the last 30 years and it has exposed Democrats as the authoritarian intolerant we all knew them to be. Americans are waking up.

  3. Cluster May 18, 2020 / 8:59 am

    Here’s the latest from NYT’s Mara Gay. Now remember Mara was the mathematical genius who thought that Bloomberg could have given everyone in the country $1 million and he would have saved money rather than spending $500 million on his failed campaign. Behold:

    Why are more people dying of this disease in the United States than in anywhere else in the world? Because we live in a broken country, with a broken health care system. Because even though people of all races and backgrounds are suffering, the disease in the United States has hit black and brown and Indigenous people the hardest, and we are seen as expendable.

    Mara was just on MSNBC and she is not pleased with this country that has provided her a 6 figure salary and a very desirable job at the age of 33. She seems to think she is expendable but her care in the “broken” hospital and her national platform to voice her opinion would suggest otherwise, but don’t tell Mara. She is at her best when she is the victim and that’s a common thread with all Democrats. They create their own victim reality and then expect everyone else to live in it.

    • Amazona May 18, 2020 / 10:33 am

      It’s scary to be really really sick. I get it. When I had pneumonia more than 20 years ago—just plain old garden variety pneumonia—-it was the first time I really understood how someone could get sick and then just die. And my case was not that serious. I was not hospitalized. And it was a few weeks before I was completely back to normal. Real life is not like TV, where major problems are completely resolved within an hour

      Mara was not hospitalized, either. I noted her personal response to what the doctor said, which I took to be “all you need to do is go home and follow basic instructions and you will be fine” but what she took to mean “we just don’t have the ability to help you because this is such a bad health care system”. It’s all filters.

      So she, in the arrogance of healthy youth and the narcissism of the compulsive runner, was surprised to find out what it is like to get really sick. And instead of dealing with it the way most of us do, because most of us endure this at one time or another, she sees it as a unique experience which was foisted upon her by an inferior health care system, which is, of course, due to politics.

      • Cluster May 18, 2020 / 4:58 pm

        And of course because she is black she faces bigger obstacles. The fact that she has a very good job with what is I am sure a very nice benefit package and pension plan doesn’t take away from her hardships. Her struggles as a black woman being subjected to an inferior health care system in a misogynist society are real dammit / SARC

      • Amazona May 18, 2020 / 9:25 pm

        Sorry to sound so cynical, but I have to wonder if a white male Christian with her skill set would have a job like hers.

  4. Retired Spook May 18, 2020 / 10:30 am

    What a great T-shirt.

    Why are more people dying of this disease in the United States than in anywhere else in the world?

    Just an educated guess, but I’d say it’s because we’re not being honest with the numbers.

    She seems to think she is expendable

    Oh, she’s beyond expendable.

    • Cluster May 18, 2020 / 4:53 pm

      A great review of the “misinformation”. Here’s a good exercise – read that review and then turn on CNN or MSNBC and see if their reports are reflective of the data. And I do believe the misinformation is intentional. Aside from isolating people and taking their livelihoods, sowing discord and distrust is also paramount to dismantling a society.

  5. Cluster May 19, 2020 / 8:18 am

    So as expected and as predictable as the sun rising in the east, MSNBC is FREAKING out over Trump taking hydroxyclhoriquine. I wonder if it would help if the President had a doctor who consulted with him, monitored him, and administered the medication. Oh wait ….. there is a doctor but that doesn’t matter. MSNBC brought their own doctors are on who are a lot smarter and of course more caring, and they all said that this drug is “unproven and lethal” …. evidently ignoring that it is an FDA approved treatment for malaria that has been around for over 40 years. I know Amazona has done extensive research on this … so it’s funny to watch a major media outlet with highly paid “journalists” incapable of reporting the history of the drug and it’s efficacy in certain situations with Covid.

    • Amazona May 19, 2020 / 11:42 am

      While at least one NYT article managed to avoid the hyperbole of “unproven and lethal” it still managed to lie:

      The drug poses a particular threat of side effects in people who have an elevated risk of heart disease; Because omitting crucial information is a form of lying, I have no problem calling the NYT statement a lie.

      1. I think the first comment to make is that there have been no long-term clinical trials of HCQ definitively linking it to heart disease. Considering the nonstop hair-on-fire howling of the Left about the utter and absolute recklessness of using HCQ to treat a new disease without long term clinical trials, this is pretty funny. There is anecdotal linkage of HCQ to some forms of heart failure, the most common of which is a worsening of a pre-existing and easily tested-for condition called long-QT interval.

      This is an easily-read outline of long-QT interval causes, treatments and studies.

      It explains that The QT Interval is like the time on the camera flash after you have flashed it and you are waiting for it to build up a charge. On your camera, no matter what -you can’t get another flash to go before it’s ready, but the heart is a little bit different and under rare undesirable circumstances, the electrical activity CAN discharge BEFORE it’s fully ‘charged up’ again…. There is a belief that this condition may be genetic, but it can also be caused by a variety of things, including (according to the article)

      In some cases, a prolonged QT interval is genetic, but in other cases it can be induced by:

      Specific Drugs
      Depletion of Potassium
      Depletion of Thiamine
      Magnesium Depletion
      Drinking Grapefruit Juice

      The thing is, no matter what causes it the QT interval can be easily measured by an EKG and when this is a concern a baseline EKG is taken and then there is frequent EKG testing done to monitor any changes.

      2) Many of the cases of heart failure associated with taking HCQ are in people suffering from rheumatoid arthritis (RA), which itself often causes heart damage

      3) Every case I found implicating CQ or HCQ involved long-term dosage of the drug. Example: patients with RA who used HCQ for >14 years had over 3-fold increase in risk of developing heart failure (HF) One case study was of a woman who had been taking HCQ for 48 years. I couldn’t find a single reference to an HCQ-related problem in anyone taking it for a short period of time.

      The president has had many comprehensive physical exams, and has never been identified as having any kind of heart problem. (And no, high cholesterol is not a heart defect or problem. And no, Snotty Nancy, being over his optimum weight isn’t, either.) He has a doctor and a hospital right there in the White House

      The safety of QT prolonging medications may be maximized by close monitoring and optimization of these factors.


      Both the concerns regarding mortality risk, and the intensity of QT and arrhythmia monitoring should be considered in the context of several important mitigating factors:

      1. The duration of use for these medications for COVID-19 infection is short (5 to 10 days for acute illness).
      2, While QT-prolonging medication use has been associated with increased risk of death, this risk may be smaller than the potential benefit from treatment of COVID-19 for some patients.
      3. There are large potential population-health benefits from hastening viral clearance of COVID-19.

      I have gone through quite a few reactions to the Left since this virus panic began, and I am now at simple profound disgust. The anger just wore me out, but cold contempt is less trying. The sheer malice and brute malignance of these people are so overwhelming, they seem to define the Left more than describe it.

      I would love to see one of them interviewed and, after dismissing HCQ, ask if the person felt the same way about chemotherapy. After all, it causes all sorts of harm to the body while it is killing cancer cells and it is not always effective—shouldn’t the Dems be trying to shut down chemo?

  6. Cluster May 19, 2020 / 8:37 am

    We all knew it to be true and now it’s fact:

    James Comey, Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzok all took advantage of media reports to push the investigation forward. And in one case, Comey orchestrated a leak of his own to spur the appointment of a special counsel.

    Prominent media outlets played a key role in advancing the now-debunked theory that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government. Much of that media manipulation centered around the infamous Steele dossier, which the Clinton campaign and DNC funded.

    I wonder how many people have noticed that Democrats will jump at the chance to cast aspersions and accuse local police of the most heinous crimes possible, while at the same time never questioning the motives or actions of those cops at the federal level? I also marvel at Trump’s ability to remain quiet over all this during the last 3 years.

    Now that Rubio is head of the Senate Intel committee, he had better to start to question key players in this attempted coup. And televised hearings would be preferred.

  7. Amazona May 19, 2020 / 12:51 pm

    Just ran across this again, after many years, and it seemed appropriate after thinking about the evils of the Left:

    An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.

    “It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”

    The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?”

    The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

    I think most of us on the Right try to feed the second wolf, but we are under constant attack by the well-fed first one of the Left.

    • Cluster May 19, 2020 / 4:11 pm

      It is indeed the “one you feed” and I love that parable. I remember football practice years ago and during the torturous “two a days” training during summer we would run constantly and the coach kept yelling out “the legs feed the wolf” meaning if you were not in shape, your performance would reflect that especially in the 4th quarter.

      People need to be mindful of their own health, both physical and mental, and we should use this virus to also extol the virtues of a healthy life style versus the hazards of smoking, obesity, drug use, etc. Wouldn’t that be common sense? Or have we all abandoned common sense? Asking for a friend.

      • Amazona May 19, 2020 / 6:51 pm

        We have often commented on the fact that so many on the Left go to great extremes to find lies and mental filth which they then incorporate into their belief systems and worldview. We wonder why they reject the good, the kind, the happy, the optimistic, the hopeful and instead are determined to wallow in the most negative emotions and beliefs imaginable. But that is the wolf they are feeding.

        They want—no, they NEED—to believe the worst of Trump, that he is a traitor, that he colluded with a foreign nation to steal the election, that he told people to drink bleach, and so on. It is vitally important to them to believe these things, which is why even when faced with the facts they turn back to the lies. Like the horse running back into the burning barn because he has come to think of his stall as a place of safety, they rush back to the ugly and the hateful because they have come to see that as their own safe place, where they feel secure. They don’t feel HAPPY there, because they have chosen a path where there is little room for happiness unless it is the sour joy of watching someone they hate have problems, but that is not the simple clear happiness that comes from feeding the good wolf.

        Sadly, they don’t understand that they can turn their backs on their wolf and start to encourage the other one. They seem to have a deep-seated fear of being lost, somehow, without that hostility and negativity to hang onto and guide them. I’ve been there, and remember that period of feeling adrift and unconnected to anything because I had rejected the lies of my (then) Democrat Party but couldn’t imagine ever thinking of myself as (ugh!) a REPUBLICAN!

      • Amazona May 19, 2020 / 6:59 pm

        As a society we have dodged that whole “personal responsibility” thing with the advent of the shift of attitude that comes from the concept of “shaming”.

        No, the obese person with a lifestyle that has led to health problems cannot, should not, be held responsible for the consequences because that would be “shaming” him or her, which conveniently shifts the negative onto you for being so hateful instead of on him or her for being so negligent.

  8. Cluster May 19, 2020 / 4:16 pm

    I think it’s important that this newly exposed fact gets the attention it demands:

    Prominent media outlets played a key role in advancing the now-debunked theory that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government.

    So what’s the consequences? Should these media outlets lose their broadcasting license? I think that if a 77 year old barber in MI lost his business license because he “defied” Gov. Whitless’s decree, then I certainly think it’s fair that NBC and CNN lose their license to inform the public, particularly after it has been proven they lie and spread misinformation. What’s more harmful? A barber in MI giving haircuts? Or a national media outlet spreading lies?

    • jdge1 May 21, 2020 / 3:15 pm

      It would sure be wonderful for these media outlets to be held accountable for their intentional lies. However, we must do so using the law and consistent practices of the law. Otherwise, if the left gets control of congress, you can be sure they will attempt every means possible to shut down right leaning news outlets.

      • Amazona May 21, 2020 / 4:22 pm

        What we will always run into is the distortion of the guarantee of freedom of the press. I think we will need a court case, or a few, and then a SCOTUS ruling on whether this is a pass to print lies. The thing is, the amendment itself was intended to allow the freedom to oppose the government, so it would come down to an argument about whether printing falsehoods to take down the government is protected, vs the right to simply publish opposing points of view.

        The first step might be to remove protection from slander and libel liability, and to relax to some extent the rule that one must have to prove damage from the act.

  9. Cluster May 20, 2020 / 8:25 am

    I encourage everyone to start watching Morning Joe on MSNBC in the morning. Joe Scarborough is in the process of losing his mind. He is so maniacally obsessed with Trump that he goes on lengthy unhinged soliloquies full of exaggerations and half truths to the point you begin to think the mental health experts will be arriving soon.

    What’s funny is the desperation they try and project onto Trump. How desperate he is; how mentally unhealthy he is; how out of touch he is; how corrupt he is; etc. in other words every known fact of Joe Biden is now being projected on to Trump. Equally humorous is their bewilderment of how rude Trump can be to the mindless propagandists in the press briefings. I guess they still believe that they are dealing with the old GOP … the Bush’s, McCain’s, Romney’s, etc, and that if they just keep up the attacks, we will fold. What they don’t get yet is just how much disdain we have for them, how dishonest we know them all to be, and how dangerous they are for this country. They still want to be considered our fellow citizens but that day is gone, they are now enemy combatants and that is how they will be treated. In my opinion, they were all part of an attempted coup that they are hoping will go away, but now it is we who will not stop until they fold … or are imprisoned.

    • Amazona May 20, 2020 / 9:33 am

      Thanks, Cluster, but I think I will leave that filthy job to you. The combination of watching someone mentally and emotionally disintegrate on national TV and the vile toxic sludge that illustrates this descent into madness are too ugly for me to want to participate.

      I got the impression that Joe started off this death spiral by just being pissy because he kind of got ignored by Trump when he thought he had a connection there, but that once he got started, and was egged on by Mika, he lost control and is now so deep in his delusions and hate and spite and malice he truly can’t see anything but the view available from his recto-cranial inversion.

      Without Mika I think he might just have been another Erick Erickson, a bewildered kinda-conservative with more Identity Politics defining him than actual objective political analysis, subject to the vagaries of how some policy or statement by the president might tweak his emotions but not truly descended into the Dark Side. Erickson is all over the place, with his political compass constantly skewed by his emotional magnetic field, and I think Joe would have been much the same way if he had not sold his soul for a few pats on the head (or whatever…I’d really rather not go there….) from Mika.

      • Retired Spook May 20, 2020 / 10:02 am

        I’d put it a little more succinctly; I’d rather walk across broken glass and stick needles in my eyes than watch those two creeps.

      • Cluster May 20, 2020 / 10:23 am

        OK so I will put you both down as a maybe …. lol.

  10. Cluster May 20, 2020 / 8:51 am

    Well …. here’s another BOMBSHELL:

    Wauck, the former FBI special agent, proposed on his blog that Flynn was not masked in the first place since he was the target of an ongoing counterintelligence investigation. The FBI had Flynn under a counterintelligence investigation since Aug. 16, 2016.

    It is now being discovered that Flynn may NEVER have been masked … meaning he WAS the target of the counter intelligence campaign. This is a good read:

  11. Retired Spook May 20, 2020 / 11:30 am

    Stephen Moore on Glenn Beck this morning: “Did you see that the mayor of Los Angeles wants to keep the city shut down for 3 more months? They’re going to have rioting in the streets.”

    And the mayor will blame it on Trump.

    We may see life imitating art sooner rather than later.

  12. Cluster May 20, 2020 / 6:03 pm

    And AZ Realtors are benefiting from the People’s Republic of California so we thank them for that.

    As I was watching Gov. Ron DeSantis dismantle the media for false reporting today and reading other reports of protestors around the country and people standing up to big government I realized …. this is the day I have been waiting for for 30 years.

    I think the great conservative awakening is happening.

  13. Cluster May 21, 2020 / 8:35 am

    Posted here for additional comment. The hits just keep coming:

    An FBI offer to pay former British spy Christopher Steele to collect intelligence on Michael Flynn in the weeks before the 2016 election has been one of the more overlooked revelations in a Justice Department inspector general’s report released in December.

    The reference to the FBI proposal, which was made in an Oct. 3, 2016, meeting in an unidentified European city, has received virtually no press attention. But it might have new significance following the recent release of government documents that show that Steele peddled an unfounded rumor that Flynn had an extramarital affair with a Russian woman in the United Kingdom.

    It is not clear how and when Steele came across the rumor, or if it was the result of the FBI asking him to look into Flynn.

    The inspector general’s report, released on Dec. 9, 2019, said that FBI agents offered to pay Steele “significantly” to collect intelligence from three separate “buckets” that the bureau was pursuing as part of Crossfire Hurricane, its counterintelligence probe of four Trump campaign associates.

    One bucket was “Additional intelligence/reporting on specific, named individuals (such as [Carter Page] or [Flynn]) involved in facilitating the Trump campaign-Russian relationship,” the IG report stated.

    The FBI was working with a foreign operative to dig up dirt on a political rival of the incumbent President. In a non propagandist world, this story would be front page and leading all televised newscasts. Folks we live in a surreal time where our government and media elites are over exaggerating a flu virus and gleefully imposing punitive lock down measures while at the same time covering up criminal behavior of the political class.

    Much of our media now is the equivalent of “Baghdad Bob”

    • Amazona May 21, 2020 / 10:35 am

      This seems to ignore the fact that the FBI was already paying Steele for some other work he had been doing. I don’t remember exactly what it was, but this has been buried in all the hyperbole about the “dossier”, just as they buried the fact that Carter Page had been working for the CIA, funneling information to them he discovered in his dealings in Russia. Just as they ignored their knowledge that Page really worked for the government so they could attack him on claims he was spying against the government, they ignored the fact that they had been paying Steele (and evidently offering to pay him for additional work) and pretended that his dossier was just some objective analysis from some guy with international connections.

      As for “It is not clear how and when Steele came across the rumor, or if it was the result of the FBI asking him to look into Flynn” this completely overlooks the historical fact that Steele didn’t HAVE to “come across” something to report it. He just made it up.

      • Retired Spook May 21, 2020 / 12:37 pm

        just as they buried the fact that Carter Page had been working for the CIA

        It’s even worse than that. An FBI lawyer physically altered the record when he was asked if Page was an asset of another intelligence agency.

  14. Amazona May 21, 2020 / 10:18 am

    I ran across an interesting (and rather alarming) article on Bull Market Rodeo about a possible mutation of COVID 19 and found it well-written enough to follow up on another in their menu. I found myself agreeing with nearly every word of this: and the following seemed appropriate given the comments on the Agenda Media in this thread:

    Each morning as I cruise through the news reports I no longer see journalism. I see panels of prosecutors using selective and often disinformation to mount an incessant attack not only on the current administration, but on me by proxy. Their analyses of events are more jaded than plausible. They present or ignore facts based on preconceived narratives. They ignore substantive issues to dwell on petty matters – creating those proverbial mendacious mountains out of relatively meaningless molehills.

    • Cluster May 21, 2020 / 10:30 am

      Much of our media now is simply gossip and propaganda. Period.

      • Amazona May 21, 2020 / 10:37 am

        I go a step further, and suggest that it is gossip designed to advance propaganda

  15. Cluster May 21, 2020 / 11:44 am

    I am tired of being “mothered” …. time for the real men in this country to step up, risk our lives put this country back together again. And everyone afraid of that can just stay home. You were never needed in the first place.

  16. Cluster May 21, 2020 / 12:04 pm

    I think this is a sign of things to come ….

    Three Democratic members of the Staunton, Virginia, city council were ousted by Republicans on Tuesday despite receiving more votes than they did four years ago …. They’re all going one way — towards red, and no ballot-harvesting nor mail-in ballot schemes has been able to stop them. Again, it’s not a certainty that these special elections, all going the same way. are going to turn the sky red come November. but this is a sign of something big in the works.

  17. Cluster May 21, 2020 / 12:37 pm

    I wonder if Fentanyl is more dangerous than Hydroxychlorquine? The media doctors never seemed too concerned with the amount of Fentanyl entering our country via the southern border but they are sounding the alarm and calling an FDA approved drug as extremely dangerous.

    • Amazona May 21, 2020 / 1:47 pm

      One media comment was that a side effect of hydroxychloroquine is death.

  18. jdge1 May 21, 2020 / 3:46 pm

    If true, I find this a bit disturbing.

    ”Attorney General William Barr announced that he did not expect criminal investigations into the Obamagate scandal to reach the namesake of the conspiracy, former President Barack Obama or VP Biden.”

    I sure hope AG Barr has key people, if not teams of people, investigating these scandals. Hopefully the previous comment worded in such a way as to divert attention away from investigations that ARE happening and that we eventually (sooner than later?) start indictments and prosecution of real political criminals and their cohorts, and especially Obama if he broke the law, in particular to the extent he misused the federal government for personal and political gain.

    • Amazona May 21, 2020 / 4:31 pm

      I have a feeling this is based on the realization that proof will be hard to come by. Barry has been pretty slick when it has come to plausible deniability, and I think his minions would be happy to fall on their swords to protect him. Just look at the loyalty of some Clinton people, and Hillary is far less likable than Barry. He’s got so many firewalls built up around him, he probably is pretty bombproof. That’s not to say that when or if his associates all go down, with all the testimony pointing to him, he won’t suffer to some extent as his image is tarnished.

      And prosecuting and then losing would be more damaging to the Right than not prosecuting. If his supporting cast of criminals is taken down. I heard someone on the radio the other day talking about something I thought sounded impossible, which was to win back the House and then impeach Obama. Not sure if the law says this can only be done to a sitting president, but if it were to be allowed it would be pretty great. Then HE would have this infamous asterisk after HIS name, and unlike Trump would not be acquitted by the Senate if no trial was held. Or, who knows. found guilty by the Senate, depending on the evidence, to have that on his record.

      Though that would set a pretty horrible precedent, with each party reassuming power rushing to act out grievances against the outgoing president.

      • Cluster May 21, 2020 / 6:29 pm

        And that’s what Rush spoke to the other day and I have to reluctantly agree. We can’t go throwing ex Presidents in prison. That’s what banana republics do, but what we can do his hold his court of jesters accountable and prosecute and imprison them. Then the next time a rogue President wants to pursue something illegally, maybe the intel and justice bureaucrats will think twice. And by doing that, Obama’s legacy will have an asterisk.

      • Retired Spook May 21, 2020 / 6:50 pm

        If we’re not going to prosecute Obama and Biden (and I agree it would set a dangerous precedent), then I think a fitting punishment would be for AG Barr to hold a press conference and essentially do what Comey did for Hillary; list all of the crimes committed by Obama and Biden and then say something like, “but prosecuting former presidents and vice presidents is just not something we do in this country.”

      • Amazona May 21, 2020 / 8:33 pm

        Spook, that is brilliant, on two counts. It would slam Barry and make it harder for the howling mob to go after Trump.

      • Cluster May 21, 2020 / 7:36 pm

        That’s a great idea Spook. I also have to laugh at these polls showing Biden slightly behind or even ahead. Didn’t they learn anything from 2016?

        Here’s my prediction, Trump will win about 45 states and he might win California. This is going to be a landslide and Nancy loses the House too and we keep the Senate. There have been 5 special elections in the last 2 weeks in CA, WI, and VA all seats held previously by Democrats but Republicans won every single one of them and some by double digits. The Democrats have no plan, no clue, and no chance.

      • jdge1 May 21, 2020 / 11:20 pm

        I disagree. I’ve no doubt that “proof” would be hard to come by, as it typically is with cases that have many tentacles and firewalls put in place to protect the guilty. That however is NOT a reason to not investigate. That is the whole reason investigations are held. Whether or not an attempt to prosecute happens, it can only begin if evidence is gained, testimony is brought forth, particularly from key people who have much to lose and an actual case is built. This MUST be pursued. It is his job to investigate where the probability of a serious crime was committed. Failure to do so is a failure to perform the basic tenants of the job. If he’s not up to let him step down. But to make such a statement, especially with the things we’re seeing almost daily coming to light, is to a TOTAL failure of the justice department. To say we can’t or won’t prosecute a former President or Vice President leaves them above the law and allows a destructive process to thrive. The left has absolutely no problem attempting to go after a sitting President and many of his key people. And we’re feeling uneasy about investigating a former President because we might not be able to find enough proof to get a conviction? That’s really backwards mentality IMHO.

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