This Open Thread is Awesome

OK, false advertising. But it is kinda nice.

Anyways, I finished Secrets, the sequel to Mirrors and I’m actually working on the third book. By that, I mean I finally had to put a lid on Secrets at about 110,000 words and I’m 30,000 into the third book, already. Being locked down does have its benefits! It is a smashing story of love, magic, war and friendship.

Trump’s Executive Order on hiring could be crucial…but only in a 2nd Trump term. If Biden wins, he’ll undo it immediately (and Roberts won’t say “boo” about it). But if Trump is re-elected then he’s basically allowing himself to hire whomever he wants…and that means as people leave government, he can staff it up with Civil Service-protected hires who are on our side. Especially if we can also win in 2024, this will be Trump’s most important legacy…having people like us actually in there, irremovable, affecting policy for decades to come.

And “our side” is what matters, folks. Our victories are always partial and short lived because after we struggle for ages and finally get our little win, their side is always in there to slowly whittle away what we did. We need people on our side in there, making sure that what we win stays won.

Now, if you’ve been watching the news and social media: first, get the psychological and spiritual help you need. After that: ignore everything you saw. I was getting a little down, as well. But then I heard something about the primary turnout for Trump and…I looked it up. It is astonishing. We’re talking massively more people are turning out for Trump in 2020 than turned out for Obama in 2012. I’m serious: it isn’t just a little increase, it is massive. In some cases, orders of magnitude larger. And it isn’t just in Red States: Blue and Purple States have seen it, as well. What does this mean? After all, in both cases it is meaningless: the nominee is already set. And that’s just it: someone on Team Trump is getting these people to show up. We’ve been told that Team Trump has built a ground game like none has ever seen before…and now it is being tested out in the primaries. My bet: large numbers are former Dems and/or rare voters…ie, people who will not show up in polling, especially if they are doing a likely voter screen.

Now, click on this. This was just Trump driving by. Look at the crowd.

‘Rona panic is again the order of the day: the spike in cases, if it is even real and not merely the result of testing, is clearly 100% caused by the protests…but the Left doesn’t care. They want their panic back because they are afraid of Trump rallies and want an excuse to keep Biden in the basement. This is not the action of a party which thinks it is about to win in a landslide.

This is funny:

Hat Tip: Ace of Spades

Democrats realize they are running a scam.

85 thoughts on “This Open Thread is Awesome

  1. Retired Spook June 27, 2020 / 9:50 am

    Trump, like him, hate him, or ambivalent about him, is out there every day, probably the most transparently available President in my lifetime. I confess, I don’t particularly LIKE Donald Trump as a human being. I don’t care for his stream-of-consciousness speaking manner, and he says stuff that makes me cringe. I’m neutral on his Tweeting, because I don’t do Twitter. But I LOVE what he’s done in office! And, quite frankly, I love the way he makes Lefties’ heads explode. Biden, OTOH, ISN’T out there — literally. What that means in terms of polling is that people, particularly Independents, can assign whatever attributes to him that they want. At this point he’s almost like the “generic” candidate, ie., Trump vs. any “Democrat.” When millions of people hear him make serious gaffs that call his mental health into question instead of 68 people in a high school gym, the realization is going to hit a lot of them that a Biden presidency would be disastrous. And WRT polls, all you have to do is look back at 2016. Hillary had a similar lead in the polls in June. Hell, she had a substantial lead right up until she didn’t on election night. So, polls, schmolls — pretty meaningless at this point.

    • Amazona June 27, 2020 / 4:43 pm

      As usual, Spook, I am with you 100%.

      I’ve known a couple of really smart people whose brains just run at different speeds than their mouths, and I see that with Trump. Like my new inability to write by hand because I am so used to a keyboard that my writing can’t keep with with my thoughts so I leave out letters or word fragments or even words, I often see Trump obviously having trouble syncing his speech with his thinking. The result is sometimes annoying speech patterns, and thought fragments that come across in those cringeworthy episodes you refer to.

      You all might remember how stridently I was against nominating Trump back in 2016. It wasn’t that I was worried about him as president, just that I thought he would make a terrible candidate, for the reasons we have just discussed. I figured after Obama and with Hillary being the other option he would be a better choice as president no matter what he did. And like you I have been really impressed with the job he has been doing. I am even finding myself respecting the same thing that always got on my nerves before—his implacable sense of who he is that is now allowing him to just ignore the escalating insanity of the Left and just keep doing his job.

      The ONLY reason to support Biden is that he is not Trump, and I think a lot of that support can be bled off through a campaign that openly addresses that Identity aspect of the election and then points out its dangers. We also need a campaign strategy that comes right out and identifies the Leftist antics of the past few weeks as nothing more than efforts to keep people from paying too much attention to Joe Biden I can’t help but think that the repeated message that “Democrats are willing to see cities burned and the nation torn apart by anarchy if that is what it takes to keep people from paying too much attention to Joe Biden” would get a lot of attention from the squishies in the middle.

  2. Cluster June 27, 2020 / 2:01 pm

    We do not have systemic racism in this country. We have a lot of systemic ignorance, a lot of systemic victimization, and far too much systemic Leftism. Black Lives Matters is purely a marxist front group using black Americans as pawns, and the Democrat party is wholly complicit.

    Democrats should be considered domestic terrorists and treated as such. They are at war with America and all traditional Americans and the sooner we realize that the better chance we have to save the country. If we continue to think these are simply policy differences, then our country will surely be lost.

    • Retired Spook June 27, 2020 / 4:45 pm

      I don’t disagree with you very often, my friend, but regardless of what happens in the short term, I don’t think America will EVER be lost. We might suffer some rough patches along the way, but the spirit of freedom is too ingrained in the American consciousness to ever be permanently extinguished.

    • Amazona June 27, 2020 / 5:09 pm

      A question shareholders of the big corporations bowing down in submission to Black Lives Matters and funneling millions of corporate dollars into the movement should be asking of those corporations is this:

      Does this corporation actually support the violent overthrow of our government, as stated as a primary goal of Marxism and therefore of the “trained Marxists” and committed ideologues who formed Black Lives Matters to advance Marxist agendas, or is it just headed by people too stupid or lazy to look into the movement and learn the truth about it and then find other ways to support racial justice and equality?

  3. bunkerboy15 June 27, 2020 / 5:06 pm

    M. Noonan, can you explain why my comment on your post was deleted? I merely pointed out that your claim that the increase in COVID-19 cases is because of the protests is not borne out by where the current outbreaks are occurring. I’ve noticed that many times my comments disappear without explanation. Is there a rationale or convention to follow here?

    • Retired Spook June 27, 2020 / 7:54 pm

      From what I’ve seen you’ve had several comments deleted. I can’t speak for the moderator, but one comment in particular several days ago stuck in my craw but was deleted before I could respond. I don’t remember the exact wording, but you accused me of threatening to take up arms if Trump loses. I hate it when people put words in my mouth. I and millions like me would take up arms if someone is elected (or just simply “burns the system down” as one BLM spokesperson threatened) whose goal is to fundamentally transform the United States from a constitutional republic into a socialist state. No different than this from the Declaration of Independence:

      “When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

      Now it’s entirely possible that the United States could simply split apart into free and socialist areas without armed conflict — not probable but possible. If I had my druthers, I would prefer to live as one free country, and no one on the Republican side is suggesting anything other than that..

    • bunkerboy15 June 27, 2020 / 8:34 pm

      Well, sir, that was because your very first comment to me was:

      Bunkerboy, you’re not that 28-year-old living in his parents’ basement trolling the Internet in his Cheeto-stained pajamas that we keep hearing about, are you?

      I was responding in kind. How would you like for me to have responded?

      • Retired Spook June 27, 2020 / 9:03 pm

        You could have simply responded, “no, I don’t care for Cheetos.”

      • bunkerboy15 June 27, 2020 / 9:09 pm

        It just seemed like a rude first response from you. But maybe that’s they way you roll.

      • Amazona June 28, 2020 / 11:07 pm

        See? Snide. It might be because you are so darned unlikable. It might be because you are boring. So many possibilities…….

      • Retired Spook June 27, 2020 / 9:15 pm

        Just a lame attempt at humor — nothing more.

      • bunkerboy15 June 27, 2020 / 9:33 pm

        And now that I think about it, I do vaguely remember responding to a comment of yours about taking up arms. Taking up arms if someone is elected whose goal is to fundamentally transform the United States from a constitutional republic into a socialist state brings up a couple of interesting things:

        1. Such a person would be elected by the American people, so taking up arms implies that you would reject American democracy because you don’t like the result. How do you determine when to reject democracy in America?

        2. Regarding a transformation from a constitutional republic to a socialist state, what do you mean by that? True socialism means that the means of production, etc., is owned and controlled by the government. Do you fear that? Or is a beefed up social welfare program (e.g., universal healthcare) enough for you consider taking up arms?

        Just wondering.

      • Retired Spook June 27, 2020 / 11:10 pm

        Just keep wondering.

      • bunkerboy15 June 27, 2020 / 11:54 pm

        Maybe think it through a little more…

    • Amazona June 28, 2020 / 11:04 pm

      You seem to think you are entitled to post here even when you bring nothing to the discourse but bickering, snideness and pettiness.

  4. Cluster June 28, 2020 / 6:11 am

    What binkie boy doesn’t understand is that his socialist comrades have already rejected democracy and picked up Molotov cocktails, guns, knives, and bats and have killed innocent Constitutional Americans and destroyed much of traditional America so maybe he should have thought that thru. They already started this shit moron so hell yes the reckoning is coming.

    • Retired Spook June 28, 2020 / 9:06 am

      They already started this shit moron so hell yes the reckoning is coming.

      And the Founders’ remedy for such a reckoning was the Second Amendment. I think it was DB a few days ago who offered a relevant quote: “You can vote in socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.”

      1. Such a person would be elected by the American people, so taking up arms implies that you would reject American democracy because you don’t like the result. How do you determine when to reject democracy in America?

      I don’t need to determine when to reject democracy in America; the founders already did. That’s why they chose a Constitutional Republic instead.

      • Cluster June 28, 2020 / 9:18 am

        That’s why they chose a Constitutional Republic instead.

        Proving once again that systemic ignorance and systemic victimization are this nations biggest obstacles.

        Binkie – you know who also destroyed national monuments, erased history, and renamed national landmarks? The Taliban in Afghanistan. That’s the company you keep sport, so you may want to refrain from the moral lectures.

      • Amazona June 28, 2020 / 11:37 pm

        ” you know who also destroyed national monuments, erased history, and renamed national landmarks?”

        Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, just to name a few. It is the pattern of the Left.

      • Retired Spook June 28, 2020 / 9:43 am

        And there is ZERO reason to engage in dialogue with someone who (a) doesn’t know the form of government we have, and (b) attempts to give moral lectures to those of us who do.

      • bunkerboy15 June 28, 2020 / 1:35 pm

        Well, I was responding to your comment about how you would take up arms if someone is elected whose policies you disagree with you. You used the word “elected.” If not in a free and fair democratic election, then how? Of course I understand that we elect representatives to make laws and carry out government on the public’s behalf. But at virtually every level, these representatives are elected democratically, no? Even with the presidency, all 50 states use a popular vote to determine its electors to the Electoral College. So that’s what I meant by American democracy. I’m surprise that was controversial.

        Ronald Reagan once said, “Democracy is worth dying for, because it’s the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man.” By saying that you would resort to armed conflict in the event that you don’t agree with the results of an election seems to indicate that you are willing to dying to subvert democracy.

      • Cluster June 28, 2020 / 2:04 pm

        That’s exactly what the Democrats are doing moron. Democrats are literally picking up arms, destroying cities and killing people because their massive childish rage at losing the 2016 election. Hard to believe you preen here on moral high ground accusing our side of doing the exact fucking thing you are in the process of doing. Mind numbingly stupid doesn’t even begin to define the depths of your cognitive abilities. But the reckoning is coming sport. Stay tuned.

      • bunkerboy15 June 28, 2020 / 2:29 pm

        I’m not preening, just trying to understand retired spook’s position, and how it comes across to me.

        Regarding the recent protests and associated violence, the protests were in response to police killing a black man in Minneapolis and other similar incidents that have occurred over the last few years. I think the violence was mainly caused by opportunists of all types and political persuasions.

        I have not participated in any protests nor any violence, so your claim that I’m in the process of doing that is false. But if I did peaceably protest, my right to do so would be protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution. And if the government attempted to deny the right of the people to peaceably protest (as happened at Lafayette Square outside the White House), then that would be grounds to oppose the government, no?

      • Retired Spook June 28, 2020 / 2:46 pm

        Well, I was responding to your comment about how you would take up arms if someone is elected whose policies you disagree with

        Now there ya go putting words in my mouth again. If you can’t quote what someone has written here without distorting it, then get lost. My exact comment was, ” I and millions like me would take up arms if someone is elected (or just simply “burns the system down” as one BLM spokesperson threatened) whose goal is to fundamentally transform the United States from a constitutional republic into a socialist state.” I did not use the word “policies.” I would have taken up arms against every single administration in my adult life if disagreeing with their policies was the benchmark.

        I’m not preening, just trying to understand retired spook’s position, and how it comes across to me.

        You’re being purposely obtuse. I know it, and you know it. As DB also said the other day, “I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.”

      • bunkerboy15 June 28, 2020 / 3:06 pm

        Fair enough. But it would be helpful if you defined what you mean by transforming the United States into a socialist state, because at first glance it sounds an awful lot to me like higher taxes and more social welfare programs, which are in effect policies. But maybe you mean something different.

      • Cluster June 28, 2020 / 3:10 pm

        Universal basic income, free healthcare, free daycare, free college, etc. would take this current quasi socialist country to the next level. Ya think? Or are you just being an ass again? Cause you’re good at that.

      • bunkerboy15 June 28, 2020 / 3:11 pm

        And regarding putting words in someone’s mouth, the other poster who has come to your defense has ascribed actions to me, never mind words. Which of course did not happen, nor would he have any way of knowing that they happened. He just leaped to conclusions.

      • Cluster June 28, 2020 / 3:48 pm

        Oh heavens no!! Jumping to conclusions? Why we can’t have that. Next thing you know Trump will be accused of being a Russian agent.

      • bunkerboy15 June 28, 2020 / 3:59 pm

        Universal basic income, free healthcare, free daycare, free college, etc. would take this current quasi socialist country to the next level.

        I was asking the other poster, but since you answered, all of the items you mentioned are policy choices.

      • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 10:23 am

        Awwww—“policy choices”. Sounds so benign, doesn’t it? Just some simple “policy choices”, folks, nothing to see here, just keep moving..

        But isn’t everything imposed by the government a “policy choice”? Confiscation of property for redistribution to others is, after all, just a “policy choice”.

        But…let’s back up. Let’s take that sunshine-and-lollipops word “choice” out of the equation. Because under Leftist governance there is very little “choice”. At its core, Leftism is about the consolidation of power in the hands of the few, and that leaves very little “choice” to the masses.

        So now we are a little closer to the truth—that these things can be considered “policies”. And we have seen a lot of Leftist policies we have found unacceptable, like promoting street living and its accompanying filth, disease and crime. Like mob rule, including rioting. Like trying to erase our history. Like continuing to protect a once-free press, originally protected so it could provide truth to citizens, even after it has become nothing but a propaganda arm of one political voice and either hiding or lying about truths that do not promote the agenda of that voice. Like weaponizing federal agencies to be used to bludgeon citizens who do not echo that voice.

        Try as you might to sanitize Leftist tyranny as mere “policy choices“, we know better.

    • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 10:02 am

      He has no idea what “socialism” IS, other than what he read on Wikipedia. “… the means of production, etc., is owned and controlled by the government. ….” doesn’t sound so bad, does it? Easy to sneer at, with a “do you FEAR this?” smirk. Gee, don’t worry about increasing State control over every part your life—-after all, it’s just “beefed up social welfare programs”.

      But there is a spectrum of socialism, ranging from private ownership of production but with property (earnings) confiscated by the State for redistribution for political purposes all the way up to total ownership of production. The Left likes to keep a lot of words and labels floating around, such as “communism” and “socialism” and “fascism”. It keeps the Useful Idiots occupied and distracted and gives them plenty of material to bicker about. And, as we see with recent troll Binkie Boy, bickering is what they do.

      The thing about socialism is that it is so many things. It is a governmental model, based on a massively powerful Central Authority with little and often no power left to the people, a top-down imposition of law and policy created and administered by only a few elites. It is an economic system, in which at its heart there is no private property as everything is owned by the State. It might not be taken, people might be allowed its use and even the illusion of ownership with varying degrees of control and confiscation of proceeds but under socialism the State can step in and take it at any time. And it is a social system, in which the people are controlled by the State. That is, education is controlled by the State, the practice of religion is influenced and often controlled by the State. and the primacy of the family unit is corrupted by the State as it poses a challenge to the absolute authority of the State.

      It appeals to very few on a purely ideological basis. As a matter of fact, in this country most of its support comes from people who vote for its American representative, the Democrat Party, without even knowing a thing about its underlying political structure. They vote on emotion-based ISSUES, obediently led around by wish lists, and they vote on personality and identity.

      Here again we can take a look at Binkie. Like a good little troll hoping to herd opinion in one direction or another, he ignores the core foundation of Constitutional governance and how it is being implemented by this administration and focuses on the superficial and the silly, the frantic effort to appeal to EMOTION. “Aren’t you really just PISSED OFF that Trump is EXTOLLING THE VIRTUES OF PUTIN!!?? Doesn’t that just make you MAD ??” His role, and that of other troll cheerleaders, is not to provide information or engage in the kinds of discussion that encourage thought, but just to try to stir the pot, to try to get some anger going, to try to shift thinking into feeling.

      Sometimes there is a thin veneer of pretense at taking part in what is being discussed, but it is always momentary, just to try to poke holes in what was said, to contradict it or ridicule it, before getting back to the assigned job of getting negative emotions stirred up in hopes of bleeding off support for the one man and one administration that is posing the biggest threat to Leftist power gains in this country we have ever seen.

      You know how the Lefties are always restating what we say? “So in other words….” is a favorite intro of theirs. Let’s try it.

      SO IN OTHER WORDS we are supposed to completely overlook the Trump administration’s methodical gutting of the entrenched agency power that has become a de facto fourth branch of government, legislating without oversight (and evidently knowledge) of Congress, and get upset because he is being polite to another world leader?

      SO IN OTHER WORDS we are supposed to ignore his administration’s exposure of corruption at the highest levels of American government in its establishment of an American Stasi, using its own law enforcement and intelligence agencies to spy on citizens to find things to use against them, and instead get worked up over Trump’s employment of international diplomacy?

      SO IN OTHER WORDS we are supposed to be indignant and even outraged (to engage in some Cultural Appropriation from the Left, borrowing its favorite reaction to anything) because President Trump, the President of the United States, is focusing on the subversive efforts of the Left in this country instead of scolding the head of the Left in another country?

      SO IN OTHER WORDS we are supposed to accept assertions that Trump is doing it all wrong from people who have never accomplished anything but been stooges for an always-failed system they are determined to impose on this country?

      Got it. And my response is, simply, NO. So go sit on a stump and leave us alone.

  5. dbschmidt June 28, 2020 / 6:20 pm

    Getting tired but not giving up. Problem seems to be a conflict, for lack of a better term, between those who work and provide and those always fighting some but never accomplishing anything. Those who built this country will prevail and the Marxist and other revolutionaries can move to Venezuela to enjoy their “utopia.”. An off take from Dear Leader Stalin is “Dark Humor Is Like Food – Not Everyone Gets It.”

    • Retired Spook June 29, 2020 / 10:42 am

      You’re a little late to the party. Cluster already posted about this yesterday, and it appears that it’s fake news. I know, I was shocked too that the NYT would publish something that wasn’t true.

      • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 10:45 am

        “Shocked” is too mild a word. I was stunned, absolutely gobsmacked. Who woulda thunk it? The NEW YORK TIMES ! The home of such journalistic greats as Walter Duranty!

        It’s shameful, that’s what it is. Shameful.

      • fieldingclaymore June 29, 2020 / 11:00 am

        It is fake news because our totally honest president say it false. LOL

        How about the brits and WSJ backing up the reporting?

        Do you want Russia back in the G-8? Or are they are a state sponsor of terrorism?

      • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 11:06 am

        Gee, fielding, what do YOU think? Isn’t this tired old troll tactic of dropping pseudo-concerned queries getting a little tiresome even for you people? Or does your polling tell you it still works?

        Do YOU want Russia in the G-8? Why? Why not? What are the advantages of this? The disadvantages? Come on, fielding, share what you seem to think is your advanced political acumen. Do YOU think Russia is a state sponsor of terrorism? If so, when did this start? Is it new? Define the term.

        “Which “brits” back up this reporting? Name names, fielding. Don’t be coy. Speak right up.

        Or doesn’t your trolling schedule give you time for anything but tossing out a few silly questions on your way to the next conservative blog?

      • fieldingclaymore June 29, 2020 / 11:11 am

        A senior Conservative MP is seeking an urgent question in the Commons on Monday about an alleged plot that a Russian intelligence unit offered Taliban-linked fighters bounties to kill coalition troops in Afghanistan.

        British security officials have confirmed to Sky News that the reports about the plot are true.

        I don’t think Russia should be in the G-8 for various reasons: election meddling, crimea, this Taliban mess etc.

        You think they should be?

      • Cluster June 29, 2020 / 11:17 am

        Catherine Herridge with CBS can’t confirm anything on the militant bounty story but that didn’t stop MSNBC from airing an entire hour long segment on this current fake story this morning and dimwits like Fielding play right along. Nothing to see here. Just another faux outrage by the party of irrational fears. I think this gal wrote the best piece on it:

        This is simply an effort by the military industrial complex to keep sending our troops into war and keep the money flowing.

      • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 11:23 am

        Well, unlike you Lefty trolls, I don’t posture as having deep and detailed information about international affairs, nor the ins and outs of international diplomacy. Unlike you Lefty trolls, I don’t practice armchair decision-making because, unlike you Lefty trolls, I am smart enough to know I don’t have enough information or experience to make those decisions.

        And unlike you Lefty trolls I don’t spend my time snouting around looking for things to attack Trump about.

        Clearly we have nothing in common. I am a patriot, one who loves my country and who is also white—-Eastern European Irish white, the kind of white that glows in the dark—-and I am smart enough to know that being white and being a nationalist have absolutely nothing to do with judging people by the color of their skin. I am a political conservative because I have studied the two opposing political models and have developed a strong and coherent political philosophy and base my political decisions on that, not on petty and inane Identity Politics. I have studied the Left and understand its structure and its tactics for gaining power, as well as the inevitable outcome of the success of those tactics, and based on my knowledge I reject everything about Leftism—including its ideologues and Useful Idiot supporters, trolls and activists.

        In other words, we are completely opposite in every way. So your constant bleating about Trump is totally meaningless to me, just more noise from someone whose job it is to make noise. And you’re not even very good at it.

      • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 11:30 am

        Cluster, your link is good. I especially liked the last paragraph:

        It really is funny how the most influential news outlets in the western world will uncritically parrot whatever they’re told to say by the most powerful and depraved intelligence agencies on the planet, and then turn around and tell you without a hint of self-awareness that Russia and China are bad because they have state media.

      • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 11:33 am

        fielding simpers sure thing sweetums which is such a delightful summary of his ability to address facts.

        The only thing lacking is his signature LOL, another essential component of trollery.

      • Retired Spook June 29, 2020 / 12:01 pm

        One of the key paragraphs from Cluster’s linked Caitlin Johnstone story:

        The consensus-manufacturing, Overton window-shrinking western propaganda apparatus has been in full swing with mass media outlets claiming on literally no basis whatsoever that they have confirmed one another’s “great reporting” on this completely unsubstantiated story. (emphasis – mine)

      • Retired Spook June 29, 2020 / 12:08 pm

        Great line from the RedState piece:

        Here we see the source as “people said,” which we know is the highest level of classification.

    • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 11:11 am

      Does it seem bad? Really? How bad? Wow—you sound so, like, well, you know, DISTRESSED!

  6. Amazona June 29, 2020 / 10:41 am

    An Orwell quote has popped up a lot recently, as the Left tries to erase our history. I found an analysis of the quote:

    Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

    This Party slogan appears twice in the novel, once in Book One, Chapter III, when Winston is thinking about the Party’s control of history and memory, and once in Book Three, Chapter II, when Winston, now a prisoner in the Ministry of Love, talks to O’Brien about the nature of the past. The slogan is an important example of the Party’s technique of using false history to break down the psychological independence of its subjects. Control of the past ensures control of the future, because the past can be treated essentially as a set of conditions that justify or encourage future goals: if the past was idyllic, then people will act to re-create it; if the past was nightmarish, then people will act to prevent such circumstances from recurring. The Party creates a past that was a time of misery and slavery from which it claims to have liberated the human race, thus compelling people to work toward the Party’s goals.

    The Party has complete political power in the present, enabling it to control the way in which its subjects think about and interpret the past: every history book reflects Party ideology, and individuals are forbidden from keeping mementos of their own pasts, such as photographs and documents. As a result, the citizens of Oceania have a very short, fuzzy memory, and are willing to believe anything that the Party tells them. In the second appearance of this quote, O’Brien tells Winston that the past has no concrete existence and that it is real only in the minds of human beings. O’Brien is essentially arguing that because the Party’s version of the past is what people believe, that past, though it has no basis in real events, has become the truth.

    This analysis of a book written in 1949, a book written to remind us of the trajectory of the development of tyranny and its inevitable outcome, summed up the rationale of today’s Left working so hard to destroy our history.



    And so we see it happening now. The Left knows that if we admire our past, respect it, we will act to re-create it, which means supporting the structures upon which that past was built. That is, personal liberty, government by the people, personal responsibility, allegiance to the country, allegiance to the Constitution.

    The Left has to present the past as “nightmarish” so they can posture as the alternative to that. But those of us who study and understand history know that with the Left the nightmare lies ahead, not behind.

  7. Amazona June 29, 2020 / 10:55 am

    Breaking news! SCOTUS Chief Justice Mitt Roberts votes with the Liberals on the Court.

    OK, so maybe not so “breaking”. Maybe just SSDD.

  8. Amazona June 29, 2020 / 11:00 am

    America is vulnerable, and now is the time to push for social revolution. It’s why lockdowns have been extended far past any justifiable usefulness. It’s why cities are on fire. And, it’s exactly the same way every communist revolution in history took place. Just look at the most recent example of Venezuela. The United States looks a lot more like a Maduro-era Venezuela than any of us would care to admit.

    Marxism and communism utilize a three-pronged attack to get rid of freedom. The first prong is the culture war. We’ve been seeing this in the U.S. for decades; cancel culture is just the latest iteration. In Venezuela, the culture war helped elect Chavez because he promised to care about the poor and give them things. Does that sound familiar?

    As soon as he was elected, revisionist history began. Statues were torn down left and right because the historical figures didn’t mesh well with the new culture. For anyone trying to keep score, you now know what stage of socialist revolution we’re in.

    When the culture war makes enough progress, there’s enough political backing to go into a planned economy. This is where the state rapidly boosts its own authority and power. In Venezuela, most industries were nationalized. The biggest industry there is oil, and it was one of the first to be nationalized. In the United States, the largest industry is health care. It’s not hard to connect these dots.

    In fact, the U.S. just used a health scare to enter into a planned economy. Remember when governors shut down most forms of commerce for “two weeks to slow the spread?” The U.S. economy is still largely shut down on gubernatorial order. We’re literally in a planned economy. That’s what creates the social unrest necessary for the final part.

    When everyone is too overwhelmed by poverty to think straight, the purges start. Political opponents are arrested. Brown Shirt style gangs oppress anyone who dares disagree with the new culture. You get top-down totalitarianism.

    The brilliance of the communist attack is that most of the brutality doesn’t come from the police or the military (at least at first). It comes from the fanatics who just watch their culture war bring ruin to their own home. Rather than learn and adapt from their failures, they double down. History is full of examples. Cities are burned, starvation gets worse and society collapses. It’s always the same story.

  9. Cluster June 29, 2020 / 11:26 am

    Here’s another good article that all conservatives should read and take to heart:

    This is war and the left is playing to win. Anyone who doesn’t get that by now, to include most of the NeverTrumpers, is either irredeemably stupid or an active collaborator. Every pillar of cultural power in America, to include the unholy trinity of academia, the media, and government has declared cultural war on at least half the country.

  10. Amazona June 29, 2020 / 11:50 am
  11. Amazona June 29, 2020 / 12:11 pm

    I notice a new troll infestation. Did we say something here that brought us (again) to the attention of the trolliverse, or is it due to national events stirring up some concern and need to go out and try to generate some noise?

    Whatever the reason, I see that the little pests are back, with their whining and their nonsense and their pseudo-serious queries along the lines of “doesn’t this make you upset?” Poor dummies, so proud of their transparent efforts they just don’t understand how much they are scorned.

    But…I have read that their “success” is measured by how many responses they get, even responses pointing out their stupidity. Which leads me to my question—if this is true, why do we let this blog contribute to their post count? If they are here, they have to be answered—those steaming piles of mental excrement can’t just sit there.

    So why are they here?

    • Cluster June 29, 2020 / 12:17 pm

      They’re everywhere. They are a cancer that is spreading rapidly through our body politic and we must confront it and defeat it. I wear my Trump shirt often and welcome the confrontation.

      • Retired Spook June 29, 2020 / 12:45 pm

        I frequently wear an even more confrontational T-shirt which says:


        Funny, I’ve never had anyone come up to me and ask what it means or say that it’s offensive to them.

      • Cluster June 29, 2020 / 12:59 pm

        Hahaha I like that shirt better …

      • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 1:56 pm

        I’d actually put fielding and the binkie boy more into the category of “pimple on the ass of society” than anything as serious as cancer

      • dbschmidt June 29, 2020 / 4:55 pm

        I still proudly wear my “American By Birth. Southern by the Grace of God.” t-shirt but it tends to only offend people that have no idea about the “War of Northern Aggression.” It is kind of like, in response to an earlier post about the G-8, I am a fan of the “US out of the UN. UN out of the US” until people much smarter than me reminded me of “Keep your friends close. Keep your enimies closer.” reasons as to why we still need the UN.

        What I would like to see is the government out of private colleages including cutting off all Chienese / Russian money and student access. I am not an isolationist but it is time to regain control. It appears we have completely lost two generations of snowflakes we will have to overcome.I believe it is time again for a pause until assimilation.

        Even though the Civil war was not started over slavery–it ended that way and America has over 600,000 examples as to why we are the best Country in the World. Not perfect but always tring to perfect. We ended slavery faster than any other Country IIRC.

      • Cluster June 29, 2020 / 12:41 pm

        That’s pretty much all gender fluid boi’s can do Fielding. There are no real men in the Democrat party anymore.

      • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 1:54 pm

        Well, finally a glimmer of honesty from a troll who admits he is good for nothing but being annoying. It’s funny, though, that what he thinks are significant “prods” and “pokes” only reflect the shallowness of his thinking. A “poke” or a “prod” consisting of silly nonsense is just a way of squealing “I’ve got nothing to say but I want attention anyway”.

        And we already figured that out about you, fielding. I know your comment was posted with a silly smirk and maybe a titter (LOL) but, once again, that is what we expect from you.

  12. bunkerboy15 June 29, 2020 / 3:51 pm

    He has no idea what “socialism” IS, other than what he read on Wikipedia. “… the means of production, etc., is owned and controlled by the government. ….” doesn’t sound so bad, does it?

    Now this poster is putting thoughts into another poster’s head, never mind words…Note, I never said I was in favor of socialism. You just made that up out of thin air. Nor did I need to consult Wikipedia. Another thing you made up.

    And then you go on about trolls. I’ve been reading this site for a little while before I started posting, and one of you–or maybe it was more than one–frequently boasts about posting at MSNBC to goad the liberals. So don’t tell us about trolls…

    • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 8:53 pm

      Poor binkie, flailing away at imaginary comments supposedly made by imaginary people. I guess it’s easy, given his penchant for believing things that are not true.

      No one claimed, binkie, that you are in favor of socialism. No one had to “make that up out of thin air” because no one said it. You trivialized socialism by claiming it’s just policy choices and then sneered at people for “fearing” it.

      My Wikipedia reference was only to illustrate the superficiality of your concept of socialism.

      Oh, if only it were possible to put thoughts into your head. But it is obvious that if anyone ever tried, he failed miserably. All you have is spite, malice and some tired old talking points rattling around in there. You can’t even process the written word well enough to understand what is being said.

      As for your self-naming, I am starting to see some resemblances between your oddly disconnected “thoughts” and those of the older Bunker Boy, Biden.

    • Retired Spook June 29, 2020 / 9:05 pm

      Now this poster is putting thoughts into another poster’s head, never mind words…Note, I never said I was in favor of socialism. You just made that up out of thin air.

      An nowhere in her post did Amazona accuse you of supporting socialism. YOU just made THAT up out of thin air.

      I hesitate to speak for Amazona, but I suspect the Wikipedia reference was more of an educated guess than just made up.

      I’ve been reading this site for a little while before I started posting, and one of you–or maybe it was more than one–frequently boasts about posting at MSNBC to goad the liberals. So don’t tell us about trolls…

      Apparently your reading comprehension skills are not great. Cluster has made no secret about the fact that he “watches” MSDNC for entertainment, but I can’t recall that he has ever boasted about trolling their website. Another thing you just made up out of thin air. And I’d also bet a dollar to a donut that you have been reading and posting here under a number of different screen names for a long time.

      • Retired Spook June 29, 2020 / 9:28 pm

        Sorry, Amazona, I got interrupted in the middle of the previous comment and didn’t realize that you had posted a similar response. Great minds think alike.

      • bunkerboy15 June 29, 2020 / 11:39 pm

        He has no idea what “socialism” IS, other than what he read on Wikipedia. “… the means of production, etc., is owned and controlled by the government. ….” doesn’t sound so bad, does it?

        Well, there’s the part where supposedly I read it on Wikipedia (she made that up) and apparently thought, and I quote Amazona, “that doesn’t sound so bad, does it?” (Also made up.) Most people would interpret that as yup, I’d be in favor of that

        As for MSNBC, somebody here gloated about how he riles up the libs over on MSNBC. Heck, you yourself said you love the way Trump makes Lefties’ heads explode. I mean, it seems like your favorite part of Trump is that he’s a troll.

      • Amazona June 30, 2020 / 6:52 am

        Keep digging, bunkie. Keep digging. By the time anything makes it through those dense filters of yours it is unrecognizable—what you call “interpretation”.

        And what you don’t seem to get is, NOBODY CARES. You are an intellectual lightweight with some glaring personality defects, you are a whiner and a sniveler and a grievance collector and you contribute nothing to this discourse—or, I suspect, to any other.

      • Amazona June 29, 2020 / 11:46 pm

        Good calls on all counts, Spook.

        I suggested that binkie might have “learned” what he “knows” from Wikipedia, given the often superficial nature of information from that site.

        I did notice how he avoided any discussion of the true nature of socialism, preferring to whine about invented insults.

    • Cluster June 30, 2020 / 7:56 am

      There was a white male shot and killed in Phoenix the day before the Floyd incident and that too was barely a mention in the local news. White lives don’t matter to the media

  13. Cluster June 30, 2020 / 8:01 am

    Here is the party Fielding and Binkie support:

    “If former Vice President Joe Biden wins the election in November, public schools across the country would be forced to allow biological males who identify as transgender girls to compete in girls’ sports, according to Biden’s public statements.”

    In my opinion there is nothing more reprehensible than this. This is disgusting on every level and I am doing my part in making sure every single female Democrat voter understands that the Democrats not only endorse mental illness, they allow that illness to negatively impact young American girls across the country.

    • Retired Spook June 30, 2020 / 8:09 am

      I would think the transgender fad has to be conflicting for women, especially women who consider themselves feminists. Look what happened to J. K. Rowling earlier this month.

    • Cluster June 30, 2020 / 12:33 pm

      Binkie, those are the same military industrial complex “advisors” who had this country mired down in unwinnable conflicts around the globe and killed tens of thousands of our kids over the last 40 years. For nothing. And that’s what you and Democrats support now …. the needless destruction of our treasury and the death of our kids. You have blood on your hands.

  14. Cluster June 30, 2020 / 9:29 am

    The complete financial collapse of NY City has begun:

    NYC has seen $9bn ‘evaporate’ during the pandemic: Bill de Blasio says layoffs for 20,000 city staff will start in October and $1bn will be slashed from NYPD as Big Apple is shaken to its core by covid

    NY may soon experience a massive commercial real estate collapse like we have never seen before and that will have a negative ripple effect on the national economy. Additionally, approximately 40% of residents in Manhattan have fled the City with little intention to return and those residents comprise a big chunk of NY tax revenues that has now evaporated. Hard to believe the damage Democrats have done to NY

    • Retired Spook June 30, 2020 / 10:35 am

      That’s just awful! Hey, maybe George Soros and Tom Steyer will bail them out.

    • Amazona June 30, 2020 / 11:27 am

      While all of this will be blamed on the corona virus, in fact little of it is due to the virus itself. Part will be due to the callously incompetent handling of the virus crisis, sure, but most will be a reaction to the increased and sure-to-further-increase lawlessness shown by the riots, the political acceptance of the riots, and the disruption of the legal system shown by the no-bail policy, the prisoner release policy and now the anti-police policies.

      That is, due to Democrat “leadership” and policies. Now even the most prominent Democrat politicians are coming out in favor of Marxism and anarchy.

      • Cluster June 30, 2020 / 12:22 pm

        This article was written over a year ago:

        The cities in the worst fiscal condition are New York City, Chicago, Philadelphia, Honolulu, and San Francisco. These cities, like many states and cities in the U.S. have large unfunded pension liabilities, which are greatly affected by the volatility of pension assets. Unfortunately, to achieve higher rates of return, government pension plans have increased their allocation to riskier assets.

        This financial storm has been brewing for a while ….

    • dbschmidt June 30, 2020 / 1:29 pm

      Also read this morning that the CNN Center in Atlanta is up for sale. Not sure how you sell something that is worthless.

  15. Cluster June 30, 2020 / 12:56 pm

    More brain damage from the Left, and I do want to thank Fielding and Binkie for clearly demonstrating that damage with every one of their posts:

    “If we didn’t force Black Americans into white America’s box think how much more we could thrive,” he added.

    Do you know Binkie where there are no “white boxes”?? The Sudan. Venezuela. Mexico. Nigeria. etc. And aren’t those exemplary societies binkie?? They’re all equal!!!

    • Amazona June 30, 2020 / 5:39 pm

      “That’s what being Black meant to me: do you feel the hurt? Do you experience racism? Do you feel like you’re at a slight disadvantage?””

      So “being black” to him means “feeling the hurt”. Gee, I wonder if all black people believe that their racial identity depends on their sense of victimhood. And of course someone with this attitude is going to “experience racism” all day, every day. Get booed for striking out on a third out with the bases loaded, down by 3, and of course it’s only because you’re black. It’s racism and it HURTS.

      I wonder if Nolan Arenado has to crawl in a corner and whine that he might have to quit if he gets some flack for something he did. Somehow I can’t picture him whimpering “It’s because I’m tan, isn’t it?”

      “SLIGHT disadvantage”? You mean like someone who can’t throw a baseball, or hit or catch? Someone who can’t run as fast? Someone who isn’t making millions of dollars a year? Someone with that kind of disadvantage?

      Hey–people rag on each other, all the time, and the way they do that is to start with a characteristic or identifier—tall, short, thin, fat. black, latino, bald, whatever. Normal people—-that is, people whose very sense of self is not rooted in victimhood—-understand this, and don’t whine and snivel about being called “gimpy” because of a limp, or “chromedome” because of baldness. It’s give and take, usually without malice.

      And it doesn’t necessarily indicate a negative attitude. When I heard a woman tell a guy “Oh, man up and stop being such a p***y” it didn’t indicate a demeaning attitude toward women.

      Sometimes I think this new conviction of being guaranteed life in a protective bubble where you never have to hear anything that doesn’t make you happy is one of the reasons our society is falling apart. This whining hypersensitivity is fed by the theme that it is justified because it really has deeper and more virulent meanings than the words or context indicate.

      I have a feeling this guy is blaming a lack of popularity in the clubhouse on his partial blackness. Even THAT has him freaked out—“oh, what do I check, black or white, it is just sooooooo upsetting!”

  16. Retired Spook June 30, 2020 / 5:33 pm

    Something interesting is happening in the precious metals market. Gold is trading at an 8-year high ($1,798) and Silver is trading at a 4-year high ($18.57) Usually when investors flee to gold and silver something bad is on the horizon. Maybe the radical Left is finally going to start the civil war they’ve been threatening since Trump was elected.

    • Amazona June 30, 2020 / 6:10 pm

      All I can say is, if they are foolish enough to push it to physical warfare beyond gangs of thugs beating up unarmed civilians, it won’t be a very long war.

      But as I said earlier in an email to a mutual friend, I think that though the Left has been laying the foundation for a violent takeover of the nation if they can’t quite pull off the bloodless coup they and their fellow travelers in Congress and the military have been working on they probably know we aren’t quite there yet. But they have to rush it, even with the risks inherent in pushing too far too fast (the risk of alienating so many Americans they push back and reelect Trump and give the GOP the House and the Senate and a lot of governor seats and state legislature offices) the biggest risk to them is just sitting back and letting Trump coast to a win. They have to do SOMETHING and they have to do it NOW.

      Because a second term for Trump, with the power it carries (no need to tone down rhetoric or actions in anticipation of another campaign) would be devastating for the Left. One or two more SCOTUS nominations, a slew of district and federal judgeships and even more gutting of the entrenched power elites would set back the Leftist movement for a decade, at least. And they know it.

      I would guess that if they are not successful in derailing the Trump Train this election cycle they will escalate the violence, pushing it into something closer to armed rebellion openly against the government itself, soon after the election. And if that happens I doubt it would ever reach down to the citizen level

      Right now Trump is being presented with a list of possible military promotions, with “warnings” from the Left to “not interfere”. But he knows he has complete control not just over who gets promoted but who gets to keep his rank, and I am quite confident that he knows. of those names on those lists, who he would like to promote. A quick purge of Leftist flag officers and appointment of true patriots, combined with quick and decisive action by National Guard troops, would probably quell an effort to mount a serious uprising. A handful of Marxist police chiefs and mayors would not be able to stand up to a serious slap-down.

      Having said that, if some diehards did try to take violence to the people, they might be able to wipe out a bunch of urban types, mostly women and children and clerks, but let them get into the Heartland and they wouldn’t know what hit them.

      I wish the Leftist bully-boys would have to watch this video. There re 3141 counties in the United States and I would bet that more than 2000 of them, possibly even more, could post something just like this, directed not at a local gang but at Antifa and similar subversive and violent groups—-and mean every word.

      Did you see the thugs back down when a middle-aged couple drew down on them? Watching that woman wave her pistol around didn’t strike me as all that intimidating unless I was worried about a stray bullet, but the “courage” drained right out of those wannabe thugs, probably down their pant legs, and I think even gang bangers would shrivel up and blow away faced with people like the ones in this video.

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