Open Thread

Right below “House GOP” in 2020 winners is CNN – because Fox is imploding. And, hey: if you want MSM lies, might as well go with the pros – Fox is completely amateur at it.

Noah Rothman has a bit of disdain for the notion of a “working class” GOP. I suspect this stems from Noah not knowing a lot of working class people. But it is where we have to go: if we can’t get working class people on our side, we can’t win long term. We found over the previous 20 years where reliance on upper class white suburbanites got us: nowhere. In fact, it forced us into gradual retreat as keeping upper class whites means we ceded all things Conservative except low tax rates. Meanwhile, Trump is now past 73,000,000 votes. This is 12 million more votes than Romney got in 2012. Twelve million. We play this right, and the GOP nominee in 2024 will push towards 80 million votes. So, yeah: heck with white suburbanites.

Here’s what I think happened vote fraud-wise: Team Biden thought they were good based on Vote By Mail and Early Voting numbers…but then Team Trump’s Election Day vote starting coming in like a tsunami: they pushed the panic button. They stopped counting in the deep blue cities in the swing States and simply stuffed the boxes for all they were worth. Flaw in the plan: they did so much fraud that it is easy to detect. All that remains to be seen is if Team Trump can sufficiently prove it.

In Georgia, they claimed a burst pipe forced them to stop counting. This is a lie. But, you already knew that: because after they stopped and then started, all of a sudden a huge Trump win turned into a narrow Biden victory. It was like that PA, GA, WI, MI. Trump won: Democrats stole.

‘Rona panic is being revived in a big way. I can’t but think that the desire to take attention off the election is driving this.

The Arizona SecState who is in charge of the vote count thinks Trump’s base of voters is neo-Nazis. Seventy three million neo-Nazis. Which includes record numbers of Jews, gays, blacks and, believe it or not, Muslims. Now, as she thinks we’re Nazis, how could she not cheat? After all, wouldn’t you cheat to get Hitler out of power?

100 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook November 12, 2020 / 5:43 pm

    Meanwhile, Trump is now past 73,000,000 votes. This is 12 million more votes than Romney got in 2012. Twelve million.

    It’s nearly 10 million more than Trump got in 2016, and my bet is that the votes he was cheated out of probably exceeded 2, maybe 3 million.

    • fieldingclaymore November 13, 2020 / 11:22 am

      Joe got 78,000,000, so what is your point? Stop being sore losers, amiright?

      • Retired Spook November 13, 2020 / 11:38 am

        To believe that Joe Biden got 78 million votes we have to believe that 13 million more Americans voted for an incredibly corrupt, senile pedophile and Willie Brown’s ho than voted for Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine in 2016. I doubt that even you believe that.

  2. Amazona November 12, 2020 / 7:04 pm

    A couple of observations:

    One is that the Loony Left seems to think that someone has to “concede” for the opposition to win. Uh, no. Hillary seems to think that by conceding in 2012 she handed the presidency to Trump, but the fact is, he won and by such a large margin there was no question that he won. And she could have stayed in her hotel room and sulked till long after the inauguration without ever admitting that and it wouldn’t have made a lick of difference.

    And they seem to think that “conceding” would hand the victory to the opposition, no matter how the vote count turns out.
    Again, no

  3. Amazona November 12, 2020 / 8:28 pm

    The idea that electronic voting machines, and/or vote counting machines, can’t be programmed to kick votes from one candidate to another is simply ridiculous.

    Casinos claim that slot machines can’t be rigged, yet they turn around and advertise “loose slots”. That can’t happen if the machines can’t be programmed to pay off in a certain number of plays, on average.

    I do believe, from what I have read, that it is possible to go into the code and find where certain things are keyed in, what has been changed and when, and other important forensic data. That is how the FBI could tell that the Democrat computers had not been hacked, but that data had been copied from them in a machine-to-machine transfer (though the Dem mantra is still that they were “hacked” and sometimes even that they were “hacked by Russia”.) They could actually tell the rate of transfer and determine that no electronic transfer could do that at the same rate.

    The ruling that Pennsylvania can’t count any “cured” votes after November 9 is a good one, meaning that any votes after that with no or inadequate voter ID will have to be thrown out.

    Remember, for all the Dem whining about the SCOTUS “giving” the 2000 election to Bush, all the Court did was rule that all votes have to be treated the same. That is the same kind of law being called on when the Trump team challenges the different standards of ID requirements for mail-in voters vs same-day voters. There is also the illegitimacy of the Pennsylvania election people simply changing official state laws, as set forth by the legislature and signed into law by the governor. If this challenge is upheld, then all ballots received under the illegitimate changes would be dismissed.

    There is also a lot of screeching about Trump being considered the president-elect in 2016 before the EC had voted. But his Electoral College vote total was not challenged. There were no pending legal actions that might change the outcome. There was nothing on the horizon to indicate that the results shown would change in any way. Comparing that to this election is simply stupid. Here we have highly disputed vote totals from several (Democrat) states, hundreds of sworn affidavits which carry the same weight as swearing in a court of law with the same penalties for lying all testifying to personal witnessing of fraud and an overall body of evidence that puts the original speculation about who won in doubt.

  4. Cluster November 13, 2020 / 10:44 am

    “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history …… There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

    https://archive.fo/p2kfj#selection-619.0-633.112

    And the protests this summer were peaceful. Don’t believe your own eyes. Now be quiet, stay home, and wear your mask.

    The long slow authoritarian march of Government will not be abated by wishful thinking and conversation. The Native Americans learned that, and the current residents of Hong Kong are realizing that now. Freedom isn’t free.

    • Amazona November 13, 2020 / 11:46 am

      Wow, this obsession of yours that people want to accomplish things through “conversations” is just weird.

      You are the one who turned your back on this blog and the conservatives here to start a different one that would welcome the radicals, the trolls and the incels so you could have “conversations” with them. We knew all along that you can’t have conversations with these people, but you were eager to be best buds with them. Maybe you learned a lesson, as they then betrayed you and let everyone know the lengths to which you were willing to go to be accepted by them, but that doesn’t mean that we still think anything will be accomplished by “conversations”.

      The idea that the fight against the encroachment of the International Left into our nation is based on “wishful thinking and conversation” is your own skewed perception. It’s been a haphazard and disorganized fight, because so many on the Right simply have had no idea what was at stake, but those who have known all along discarded conversation many years ago—while you were arguing that we needed to keep talking with these people so we would “know where they are coming from”–and wishful thinking has never been part of the strategy, such as it has been.

      Trump was not elected to chat with subversives, but to use the system to bring them down. And he was successful, as far as he got, until the Left figured out how to game the system to use against him. More than 79 million people have learned a lesson from this, and I don’t think any of them are thinking that the way to continue the battle is over tea and crumpets.

  5. Amazona November 13, 2020 / 11:13 am

    If they would say “there is no evidence that enough votes were lost, deleted or changed to change the outcome of the election” they might have a little credibility. But no, they have to pretend that they didn’t do ANYTHING.

    • Retired Spook November 13, 2020 / 11:29 am

      There’s even a name for what they’re doing. And they call US Nazis. YCMTSHU!!

      • Amazona November 13, 2020 / 11:35 am

        Those of us who know history are watching it repeat itself, and we have a pretty good idea of how this is going to end—in loss of liberty, economic misery and probably the deaths of tens if not hundreds of thousands.

  6. Amazona November 13, 2020 / 11:33 am

    A lot of people had been concerned over the past few years over what can be referred to in verbal shorthand as a “zombie apocalypse”, or massive disruption in our lives. That could mean a biological or nuclear attack, a financial meltdown, shutdown of the electrical grid, etc.

    When Trump was elected, or rather as his presidency started to show its agenda, these fears abated to a great degree. His America First stance, his efforts to defang the Leftist monster that had been taking over our country under Obama-Biden— the economic fragility of an economy under Leftist control and inherent weakness we as a nation had been projecting—- gave us a sense that the tide was turning.

    Now, however, that sense of increasing security is gone.

    Last night I was reminded of something. You know how the entire gun and ammo buying panic stripped the stores of self-defense oriented weapons and nearly all ammunition? Well, a friend has an FFL license and is in communication with other gun people, and they have been concerned about the fact that although ammunition manufacturers have been working nearly 24/7 to catch up, very little ammo is reaching the market. So who is buying it? Gun people remember how, under Obama-Biden, federal agencies were buying ammunition at astounding rates. The Social Security agency bought, as I remember, about a quarter of a million rounds.

    If the huge increase in ammunition production is going to the government, then it is time to worry.

    Especially now that the Executive Branch looks like it is going to be under the control of such a radically Leftist movement, under the control of the Chinese Communists. (And if you think that owing $5 million to the ChiComs in an interest-free “loan” doesn’t give them a lot of control you are probably one of the sheeple who thought the proof of Biden’s abuse of power and his corruption were “unsubstantiated”.)

    • Cluster November 13, 2020 / 11:50 am

      Governments effort to reduce all Americans to the lowest common denominator in the name of equality is a force we have yet to overcome …. and I fear we have lost the will to make the sacrifice to do just that. The global and domestic array of forces against a free people are massive and immovable with just words.

  7. Cluster November 13, 2020 / 11:54 am

    Wow, this obsession of yours that people want to accomplish things through “conversations” is just weird.

    I’m still waiting for your lectures on the structures of government to make a difference.

    • Retired Spook November 13, 2020 / 12:07 pm

      Come on you two — we’ll all on the same side.

      Each new generation of Leftists is fond of saying, “this time it’ll be different,” and for once I agree with them. This time it won’t even be a fair fight, and we will rid the planet of millions of evil people in very short order. The only glitch would be if they’re successful in aligning all of federal law enforcement and the military against us. That might level the playing field somewhat, but I think the Left will also find that a great many of those people take their constitutional oath very seriously.

      • Cluster November 13, 2020 / 1:27 pm

        … but I think the Left will also find that a great many of those people take their constitutional oath very seriously.

        I pray you’re right about that but I have my doubts. I think many people will gladly ignore the Constitution if it means a life of security, power, and wealth. People like Mitt Romney.

        I will apologize to Amazona for being a jack ass. I know we are aiming for the same outcome. I can not for the life of me though forgive or forget what happened this summer in terms of the riots and the willingness of the Left to literally destroy my country to get their way. YES, I do want to break some heads and there are many heads that deserve to be broken but I also know that violence is not the long term answer … but what that answer is, I’m not sure.

      • Amazona November 13, 2020 / 2:34 pm

        A appreciate the apology, and apologize on my part for being so hard on you–but that’s what friends are for. If someone won’t tell you you have spinach in your teeth, she’s not really your friend.

        I feel like breaking heads too—and if any seem to be attached to anyone posing a personal physical threat to me they will be broken. I won’t forget, either, and I won’t forget the damage done by so many profoundly yet purposely ignorant people controlled by their emotions.

        I share your contempt for the spineless as well, as I illustrate when I refer to Chief Justice Mitt Roberts.

      • Retired Spook November 13, 2020 / 3:09 pm

        but I also know that violence is not the long term answer … but what that answer is, I’m not sure.

        I think the solution is actually going to depend a great deal on our adversaries, and THAT depends on the two senate seats in Georgia. We hold those, and we stop them dead (no pun intended) on significant infringements of our freedom, at least for two years. I’m still not giving up on Trump pulling this out, but if I were a betting man, I wouldn’t bet the farm on it. Playing devil’s advocate, though, a Harris/Biden administration is likely to go off the deep end accomplishing a much as possible via executive orders, which will result in catastrophic Democrat losses in the 2020 midterms, particularly in the House, making the final two years pretty impotent.

  8. Cluster November 13, 2020 / 12:10 pm

    Trump didn’t just tell people the virtues of a conservative government, he actually showed them … lower taxes, lower regulations, a strong economy for all, a secure border, no new wars, peace accords, and peace thru strength, etc., etc. yet the citizens of OR, CA, MN, and NY to name a few were not impressed and voted once again for a large authoritarian welfare based government to micro manage their lives.

    I honestly don’t know what the answer is to return to a Constitutional small government life, but I do know that what we have been doing the last 30 years isn’t working.

    • Amazona November 13, 2020 / 2:30 pm

      But what we started to do in the last four years has been working. We didn’t get this deep into Leftist malfeasance in a couple of years—it has taken them decades to erode the very foundation of our nation to this point. But given what we have seen in the last four years it can be unwound a lot faster, with Trump in the White House.

      And none of his accomplishments involved vigilantism or violence

      • Cluster November 13, 2020 / 4:27 pm

        We have done a lot in the last 4 years which is why I am so dismayed. By any measure, this country was rolling – we showed our strength and resolve towards peace by eliminating two of the worlds top terrorists and yet did not initiate any new conflicts and signed 3 new peace accords. We had the worlds strongest economy which EVERYONE was participating in and benefiting from; we have a more secure border and stopped a lot of human trafficking and drug flow; and we marginalized NK and Iran. What’s not to like?

        IMHO in order for Constitutional conservatism to actually take root once again, our media and education will need to be reformed. That will need to be the first step. School choice and Charter schools a good start

      • Retired Spook November 13, 2020 / 7:20 pm

        we showed our strength and resolve towards peace by eliminating two of the worlds top terrorists

        And we’re apparently losing to a guy who advised Obama against killing BinLaden. There’s a message in there somewhere, and it’s not good.

      • Amazona November 13, 2020 / 9:36 pm

        And we’re apparently losing to a guy who wants to bring back Hillary Clinton.

        BTW, a judge just ruled that ruling on the law in a court case would be “unprecedented judicial activism”—a roundabout way of saying there was only one way to rule and he didn’t like it so he was going to just take a pass. It’s the new Justice Mitt Roberts approach to the law.

  9. Amazona November 13, 2020 / 3:02 pm

    Do any of you remember when George W, Bush was finally given security briefings, given his allotment of funding to start setting up his administration, etc,? I don’t remember anything about security briefings but do remember that he had a lot of catching-up to do regarding getting his administration organized because he was in limbo until the 2000 election results were finalized in December of 2000 and none of the mechanisms or funding for helping or allowing a president-elect to start putting together his administration were enacted till then.

    I also don’t remember Algore being castigated for trying to destroy democracy and the nation.

  10. Cluster November 13, 2020 / 4:30 pm

    The Masters is this weekend !!! Time for some R&R and some golf. Life is always good when you’re a Faith based conservative.

  11. Cluster November 13, 2020 / 5:00 pm

    I’m still not giving up on Trump pulling this out, but if I were a betting man, I wouldn’t bet the farm on it.

    Exactly. Whatever happened to the Durham report? What about Peter Strozk? James Comey? Two guys who admittedly lied to the FBI, leaked sensitive info to the media and undermined the POTUS from day 1. They were rewarded with books and favorable tv contributor deals. And they are just two … the list of Leftists who have never been held to account is endless. And that fact is a bigger and deeper problem.

  12. Cluster November 14, 2020 / 8:12 am

    An opening passage in Barry’s new and second edition of an autobiography at the age of 59. For the love of God this man thinks highly of himself and with very little reason to do so:

    “For millions of Americans spooked by a Black man in the White House,” writes Barack Obama in his new memoir, A Promised Land, “Donald Trump promised an elixir for their racial anxiety.”

    Got that? If you haven’t heard it enough, what Barry is reminding us is that we are all racists. Such an inspirational man.

    • Amazona November 14, 2020 / 10:24 am

      They will never stop with this. Between the personal gratification of being a victim and the political agenda of demonizing the Right this tactic is way too rewarding to let go of.

      • Cluster November 14, 2020 / 3:53 pm

        True and it’s an absolute shame

        Also notice the capital B in black. I just read about this and this is a new progressive thing. They insist the B needs to be capitalized when mentioning black people to show respect for their “shared experience” or some such drivel like that. The pandering and insanity never stops

      • Amazona November 14, 2020 / 5:19 pm

        This whole “racism” thing is, to a great extent, just narcissism. The conviction that other people are obsessed with you—for any reason—is purely narcissistic.

        In a nation where white people are just fine with black co-workers, black neighbors, black friends, black mayors and governors and Senators and Representatives, police officers and police chiefs and judges and military officers and black characters on TV, ads that feature black people (and mixed-race couples) and print ads that feature black people, to claim that being a black president gives those same people the vapors is nothing but narcissism if you are the one convinced that YOU are the cause of all this imagined angst.

        The fact is, these days so few white people care about race the number is negligible. But it seems that black people ONLY care about race. Life is too good, and too short, to waste time fretting about melanin levels in skin.

      • Retired Spook November 14, 2020 / 7:12 pm

        Shortly after he was inaugurated someone asked me what I liked about Trump. Like you I’ve kind of warmed up to the guy, but at the time I didn’t really like him as a person, and he hadn’t accomplished much yet. The only thing I could think of was that it was nice to have a President that we could criticize without being called a racist.

      • Amazona November 14, 2020 / 7:22 pm

        You’ve got that right.

        The thing is, if you are a Leftist you make all your allegedly “political” decisions based on emotion, and that is usually negative emotion. So the concept that other people make political decisions based on objective, unemotional criteria like beliefs that the nation should be governed according to certain rules simply does not register with them. It is such an alien concept, and understanding it would require enough brain power and engagement to understand what those rules are and why they are important, that the response is just to snap back to the default position of assuming everyone else is as clueless and negative and emotion-driven as they are.

  13. Cluster November 14, 2020 / 3:49 pm

    My youngest son is in DC for the MAGA march today and says that it is insane. He said he doesn’t know what a million people gathered together actually looks like but this has got to be close. Also from the video and pics he sent it looks like great weather and people are having a blast.

  14. Cluster November 15, 2020 / 8:38 am

    I don’t blame people like AOC or Ilhan Omar because they are who they are … human scum with the intellect of a basset hound but I do blame the voters. Who in the hell votes for this ????

    A Portland City Commissioner who called the cops on her Lyft driver earlier this month, despite her push for cuts to the city’s police department, claims that she acted because of her fear of ‘white supremacists’.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8950385/Portland-official-called-cops-Lyft-driver-says-afraid-white-supremacists.html

    This woman is clearly not mentally stable yet the people of Portland following 5 months of BLM violence decided to put her back in office. This country has much bigger problems than a few unfavorable trade deals.

    • Amazona November 15, 2020 / 1:19 pm

      Do we have new unfavorable trade deals?

  15. Cluster November 15, 2020 / 9:08 am

    Glad to hear

    President Donald Trump appears to be nowhere close to conceding the presidential election to former Vice President Joe Biden, according to a new interview in The New York Post.

    Americans are being asked to believe:

    1. That the 2016 election was fraudulent but 2020 was not
    2. That the political party and deep state bureaucracies that manufactured crimes to impeach the POTUS … participated honestly in counting ballots
    3. That after a year of inner city violence and destruction resulting in the deaths of some upstanding innocent Americans and after 4 years of being called a racist xenophobe, now want to unify.

    EVERYONE with a half a brain knows this election was fraudulent and if there is not an honest recount in many of these states, there could be hell to pay. There were confrontations yesterday at the MAGA march and that could be just the beginning. We will see how far the ruling class, bureaucratic class, the media, and progressives want to push this.

  16. Cluster November 15, 2020 / 9:15 am

    I am with Matt Walsh on this one

    The scum of the earth assaulting and harassing elderly Trump supporters. These people are absolute dirt. The good vs evil divide in our culture war could not be clearer. There is no grey area here.

    Matt is right … the divide can not be more clear. We have nothing in common with Democrats anymore, NOTHING. They do not like this country, or us and want to “fundamentally transform” this country and marginalize their opponents. There is no redeeming value to progressive democrats.

    • Retired Spook November 15, 2020 / 10:16 am

      We’re drawing closer and closer to the abyss.

      • Cluster November 15, 2020 / 11:31 am

        Sad but true. I don’t wish for confrontation but on the other hand I’m not willing to just roll over and allow this to continue

      • Retired Spook November 15, 2020 / 12:10 pm

        I don’t want a confrontation either. I’d much prefer to just live out the rest of my life in peace and freedom, but, and here’s the rub, I’d also like my descendants to live in peace and freedom, and most of them don’t have a clue as to the kind of future they face if our generation doesn’t take a stand. I don’t want them to wake up one morning 5 or 10 years from now and say, “what the hell happened?” And, as a popular T-shirt says, [at my age] “life in prison isn’t much of a deterrent.”

  17. Retired Spook November 15, 2020 / 12:04 pm

    I’m surprised that YouTube hasn’t taken this down. What an eye opener. Our adversaries are some seriously evil and deranged people, In fact, calling them “people” is being generous.

    • Cluster November 15, 2020 / 12:18 pm

      That is an eye opener. We can not allow these people to prevail.

    • Amazona November 15, 2020 / 3:01 pm

      Spook, thanks for that link. It was an hour well spent.

      The fact that the guy who came into an Antifa group call to explain how it was going to organize its efforts is also a VP of Dominion is quite chilling, especially given his credentials in technology, his many tech patents and his history of virulent hatred of Trump that clearly crosses into pathology. The first thing that jumped out at me, after this revelation, is that Dominion HAS a division openly called “strategy and security”. Why would a company that is merely making machines to allow for honest counting of ballots need a vice president of “strategy”? Unless, of course, the company is implementing a strategy.

      Merriam Webster defines “subversion” as a systematic attempt to overthrow or undermine a government or political system by persons working secretly from within

      We have known all along that part of the frantic push to put Biden into the White House has been to protect criminals in our federal agencies from prosecution, particularly as the trail of criminality leads back to the Obama White House and meetings attended by then -Vice President Biden. Now we can see the net widening, as a Biden presidency would also protect radical Leftists now in office in many states and cities from prosecution for their subversive activities, working from within to undermine the rule of law, and of course the need to protect crooked election officials from prosecution for federal crimes associated with the violation of several election laws, ranging from creating voting machines that illegally change the outcomes of elections to local officials participating in a wide range of misdeeds ranging from failure to keep all records of the process to various other illegal acts such as preventing meaningful observation of vote counting and recording.

    • Amazona November 15, 2020 / 3:51 pm

      This is an important accompaniment to the video Spook just linked. Watch both of them for a comprehensive (for those of us who don’t speak tech) overview of the intricate and sinister planning by the Left to steal this election.

  18. Amazona November 15, 2020 / 3:45 pm

    1) The PCR test is practically useless

    According to an article in the New York Times, August 29th, 2020 testing for the Covid-19 virus using the popular PCR method results in up to 90% of those tested showing positive results that are grossly misleading.

    Officials in Massachusetts, New York, and Nevada compiled testing data that revealed the PCR test can NOT determine the amount of virus in a sample. (viral load) The amount of virus in up to 90% of positive results turned out to be so minuscule that the patient was asymptomatic and posed no threat to others. So the positive Covid-19 tests are virtually meaningless.

    2) A positive test is NOT a CASE

    For some reason, every positive Covid-19 test is immediately designated a CASE. As we saw in #1 above up to 90% of positive Covid-19 tests result in minuscule amounts of virus that do not sicken the subject. Historically only patients who demonstrated actual symptoms of an illness were considered a case. Publishing positive test results as “CASES” is grossly misleading and needlessly alarming.

    3) The Centers for Disease Control dramatically lowered the Covid-19 Death Count

    On August 30th the CDC released new data that showed only 6% of the deaths previously attributed to Covid-19 were due exclusively to the virus. The vast majority, 94%, may have had exposure to Covid-19 but also had preexisting illnesses like heart disease, obesity, hypertension, cancer, and various respiratory illnesses. While they died with Covid-19 they did NOT die exclusively from Covid-19.

    4) CDC reports Covid-19 Survival Rate over 99%

    The CDC updated their “Current Best Estimate” for Covid-19 survival on September 10th showing that over 99% of people exposed to the virus survived. Another way to say this is that less than 1% of the exposures are potentially life-threatening. According to the CDC, the vast majority of deaths attributed to Covid-19 were concentrated in the population over age 70, close to normal life expectancy.

    5) CDC reveals 85% of Positive Covid cases wore face masks Always or Often

    In September of 2020, the CDC released the results of a study conducted in July where they discovered that 85% of the positive Covid test subjects reported wearing a cloth face mask always or often for two weeks prior to testing positive. The majority, 71% of the test subjects reported always wearing a cloth face mask and 14% reported often wearing a cloth face mask. The only rational conclusion from this study is that cloth face masks offer little if any protection from Covid-19 infection.

    6) There are inexpensive, proven therapies for Covid-19

    Harvey Risch, MD, Ph.D. heads the Yale University School of Epidemiology. He authored “The Key to Defeating Covid-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It” which was published in Newsweek Magazine on July 23rd, 2020. Dr. Risch documents the proven effectiveness of treating patients diagnosed with Covid-19 using a combination of Hydroxychloroquine, an antibiotic like azithromycin, and the nutritional supplement zinc. Medical Doctors across the globe have reported very positive results using this protocol, particularly for early-stage Covid patients.

    7) The US Death Rate is NOT spiking

    If Covid-19 was the lethal killer it’s made out to be one would reasonably expect to see a significant spike in the number of deaths reported. But that hasn’t happened. According to the CDC as of early May 2020, the total number of deaths in the US was 944,251 from January 1 – April 30th. This is actually slightly lower than the number of deaths during the same period in 2017 when 946,067 total deaths were reported.

    8) Most Covid-19 Deaths Occur at the End of a normal Lifespan

    According to the CDC as of 2017 US males can expect a normal lifespan of 76.1 years and females 81.1 years. A little over 80% of the suspected Covid-19 deaths have occurred in people over age 65. According to a June 28th New York Post article, almost half of all Covid suspected deaths have occurred in Nursing Homes which predominately house people with preexisting health conditions and close to or past their normal life expectancy.

    9) CDC Data Shows Minimal Covid Risk to Children and Young Adults

    The CDC reported in their September 10th update that it’s estimated Infection Mortality Rate (IFR) for children age 0-19 was so low that 99.97% of those infected with the virus survived. For 20-49 year-olds the survival rate was almost as good at 99.98%. Even those 70 years old and older had a survival rate of 94.6%. To put this in perspective the CDC data suggest that a child or young adult up to age 19 has a greater chance of death from some type of accident than they do from Covid-19.

    • Retired Spook November 15, 2020 / 7:05 pm

      Excellent review of the pandemic. It’s one of the best illustrations yet of how skilled Leftist bureaucrats have become at constantly moving the goal posts. I used to play golf with a guy who, in a previous life had been a narcotics detective. He related to me how one of his favorite interrogation techniques, when he caught a suspect in a contradiction, would be to ask, “OK, Mr. Perp, an hour ago you said A, and now you’re saying B. On which occasion were you lying?” That applies to lots of scientists, doctors and health systems bureaucrats — in spades.

      BTW, we’re at the end of day 8 of our 14 day self-quarantine. My great granddaughter, after a couple days of fever, cough and loss of appetite is pretty much back to normal, and none of the rest of us has any symptoms so far.

  19. Amazona November 15, 2020 / 9:17 pm

    When people fret about a “civil war” I always ask just who are the players on the Left who will instigate armed conflict with the rest of the country? There are the trained rioters, but they are mercenaries and will probably be picked up and imprisoned very quickly under an ongoing Trump presidency. Who else? Gangs? Soy boys? (Love that term—thanks, Cluster) Screeching suburban moms wearing pointy little pink hats?

    On the other hand, well—

    • Retired Spook November 15, 2020 / 11:44 pm

      Great article. Loved this part:

      There is enough ammunition on hand already to eradicate all known leftist/socialist threats and their add-on elements (i.e., the media, Islamic elements, LEOs siding with the socialists, and any federal officers attempting to interfere with militia actions that are required to end all socialist threats and actions and restore confidence in the federal government to the people of the US).

      As I said a while back, the Left is approaching the perfect storm of be-careful-what-you-wish-for.

      • Retired Spook November 16, 2020 / 12:02 am

        There was a meme going around a while back that read something like this:

        There are over 100 million of us. We own 4oo million guns and 12 trillion rounds of ammunition. If we were the problem, you’d know it. That actually wasn’t far from the truth.

      • Amazona November 16, 2020 / 7:52 am

        I question your figures—they indicate that these 100 million of us only own four guns each.

      • Retired Spook November 16, 2020 / 10:07 am

        LOL! You’re right. I own considerably more than that, and I know you have more than I do. And I suspect, with the panic buying that went on this year, that the 100 million number is low as well. Don’t know about the ammo. I know several guys who have over 100,000 rounds.

  20. Cluster November 16, 2020 / 10:15 am

    Unlike John Durham, when Sydney gets a hold of something she will follow through

    Sidney Powell: They can watch the voting real time. They can run a computer algorithm on it as needed to either flip votes, take votes out or alter the votes to make a candidate win… It’s massive criminal voter fraud, writ large across at least 29 states… It’s obvious the algorithm and the statistics that our experts are tracking out are batches of votes and when the votes changed. It’s going to blow the mind of everyone in this country when we can get it all together and can explain it with the affidavits and the experts that have come forward.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/massive-criminal-voter-fraud-going-blow-mind-everyone-country-sidney-powell-dominion-systems-video/

    • Cluster November 16, 2020 / 10:21 am

      After reading this, I thought back to when Kamala was interviewed just a day before the election and she was asked if she was confident on the outcome of the election and if her campaign strategy of isolation was effective to which she hesitated for a minute and then with full confidence she declared “Joe Biden and I will win this election, there’s no question about that”.

      They knew the fix was in, that’s why they didn’t need to campaign that hard or espouse any of their agenda items. Do we really know what Biden will do? No we don’t, he never campaigned on any actual policies … and he never had to.

    • Retired Spook November 16, 2020 / 10:40 am

      Sidney Powell was on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo yesterday. She’s getting lots of facetime, and I’m glad she’s on our side.

  21. Cluster November 16, 2020 / 10:59 am

    I particularly enjoyed the Proud Boys marching thru DC chanting “F**K Antifa”.

    • Amazona November 16, 2020 / 1:56 pm

      Yeah, I am SOOOOOO proud to have our side using the same language the Left does.

  22. Cluster November 16, 2020 / 12:28 pm

    So Moderna just announced their new vaccine to complement Pfizer’s and Moderna’s is said to be 95% effective. Additionally the CDC confirmed this weekend that the survivability rate across all age categories is 90%+.

    Yet States are going into lockdowns once again.

    This is not about a virus. It’s about a global reset.

    • Retired Spook November 16, 2020 / 12:35 pm

      There is not going to be a uniform reaction across the country. Sheeple already herded into large metro areas are largely going to comply, while those of us out in flyover country are largely not going to comply. It’s going to be interesting. If I were a small business owner of a “non-essential” business in a large metro area, I’d be thinking seriously about relocating.

      Day 9 of our self-quarantine, and still no symptoms.

    • Amazona November 16, 2020 / 1:53 pm

      Standing in one of the pens at Safeway that remind me of how we handle livestock, designed to control rowdy shoppers who might not understand the rules, I was next to a shelf about 15 feet long fully stocked from the floor to about 5 feet high with masks from different companies, and I had the same thought.

  23. Amazona November 16, 2020 / 1:55 pm

    Why can’t we subpoena the source code for Dominion machines? Or from several of the machines used in Michigan and Florida?

    There is a whine that in Georgia the voter is given a paper ballot showing his choice, so the votes can’t be rigged—but how many voters cross-check the bar code, which is after all what the machine reads—to be sure it reads what they want it to read?

    • Retired Spook November 16, 2020 / 2:07 pm

      Georgia is doing a complete hand re-count, so any discrepancy between the markings on the ballots and the way the machines read them should become readily evident.

      • dbschmidt November 16, 2020 / 6:12 pm

        I believe a lot of what Sidney Powell is doing is just that. Subpoena everything and lock it down outside of Dem control until the proper folks can do forensics on it. I have been in IT for 40+ years and the one thing I can assure you is there is no such thing as a “computer glitch”–computers do what they are programmed to do. Personally do not believe recounts will capture the fraud on this level. It is easy enough to have code perform certain functions until no longer needed and then remove itself in an effort to hide from peering eyes after the fact. Make a whole lot of “valid” votes except they are not who the people voted for.

        I also find it strange that Hidin’ Joe under-performed Hillary everywhere except four Dem strongholds where counting stopped and re-started after out-of-state vehicles showed up carrying what appears to be bags of ballots in the wee hours of the morning. And, as always it seems these days–I was wrong again about Charlie Daniels but hoping Georgia will keep the runoff elections honest.

        I would say simple enough but it would be a large undertaking to set up a couple of systems in each place of question and given full access to state-controlled and a few national databases to cross-reference and see just how stinkin’ large this fraud is. If Trump “loses” and doesn’t buy Fox or CNN–then force access and spend the time & money to blow this completely out of the water nationwide.

      • Amazona November 17, 2020 / 4:58 pm

        My question on the Georgia hand count is if those ballots are counted using bar codes. From what I have read, they use a touch screen system which then prints out a paper ballot that says “Trump” or “Biden” on it, and that is what is fed into the machine. I doubt that the machines are programmed to read words. That would mean the ballot also has a bar code which is what is read by the machine. When I first read about this system or at least a similar one, the newly printed ballot may have the name of a candidate on in (for those who check) but in some cases the bar code read something else. Without a bar code scanner the voter would not realize his vote had been changed.

        If this is the system they have in Georgia then a hand count would have to be two-parts—-one person recording the name printed on the ballot and another the name recorded in the bar code. If they don’t match, we would be looking at programmed fraud. If the hand count just records the printed name then whatever is on the bar code wouldn’t matter—though it would be interesting to see if they match, just to check the integrity of the system.

      • Amazona November 17, 2020 / 5:10 pm

        DB, you say It is easy enough to have code perform certain functions until no longer needed and then remove itself in an effort to hide from peering eyes after the fact. Aren’t there records of every change, if you know where to look in the code? I am not a tech person, which is an understatement, but I remember reading about the forensic computer investigation into the DNC computer, once the FBI was allowed in, and they were able to see signs that “clues” or fake breadcrumbs had been planted to lead them to think Russians had been in the system (though they said the clues were so clumsy they had nothing in common with the sophisticated hacking done by Russia) and they could even tell the speed with which the data had been transferred, telling them it had to have been a machine-to-machine transfer.

        Are you saying it is possible to have a Mission Impossible kind of self-destruct that would remove traces of its very existence and the fact that the computer had been programmed to remove part of the code and then remove the code that told it to remove the code?

        I’m also thinking of Investigative Tactics 101, which is to tell everyone who is part of a scam that the only one who will not hang for it once it is fully uncovered is the first one to come forward and admit to what happened, and name names. A lot of people had to be involved in this, from the original programmers to the people who were in the rooms when counting stopped and, presumably computers were either told to do something else or bogus ballots were fed into them or even both. Chances are, not all of these people are ideologues committed to an agenda, especially the tech people who might just have taken a job because it was a job.

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