In the past 24 hours I’ve seen two Georgia polls – one showed both GOPers comfortably in the lead, the other shows both Democrats comfortably in the lead.
Once again, polling is useless. I guess we’ll see how it comes out – my view is that the GOP is favored to win both seats, but we’ll see what the Margin of Fraud is.
Meanwhile, Pennsylvania’s vote numbers just don’t add up. But, you already knew that.
Report is that Homer’s The Odyssey has been removed from a Massachusetts school curriculum. There is, of course, no way to say that Homer’s work is racist or anything like that – it was written by Greeks about Greeks. But, they are calling all Western literature racist, sexist, what have you. The reason for this is that they don’t want people to know their own history and heritage. The stuff they produce is unreadable garbage, for the most part, and it can’t stand comparison. So, eliminate it and all the kids will get is SJW drivel. This has to be stopped – but it will take a Revolutionary movement to do so.
Revolution means that those who are in charge of things today are entirely removed from power.
And, of course, I wrote the Mirrors series of books and am now writing the Shadow Army series simply because I couldn’t stand what I was finding in bookstores these days. I’m not saying I compare to any of the great writers, past or present: but my stories are about sane people trying to do the right thing in difficult circumstances. You know: something worth reading instead of plowing through some SJW tome about what it’s like to grow up a differently-abled gender-fluid xir of color. If there has ever been any art, literature or music you’ve ever felt moved to create – do it. We take back the culture ultimately by producing our own.
Trump wins the Stimulus debate: because by demanding $2,000.00, the message he sends out is that he’s fighting for us. It doesn’t matter, in the end, if we get it or not: Trump stood up for the people. This works to his advantage whether he runs in 2024 or not.
Dictionary dot com is going full Orwellian Newspeak – telling everyone what words they can and cannot use, and also changing the definition of words (they recently changed “court packing” from, you know, packing the court to “not approving a Democrat nominee for the Court”). Once again, Revolution is needed to fix this.
They had to hate to report this: Gallup says that Trump is the most admired man in America, edging out Obama.
Among seeing with my own lying eyes–these folks really don’t understand why we the people have zero trust in anything they write.
‘Private Dinners’, ‘Sponsored Trips’ from Chinese Communist Propaganda Front
A host of corporate media outlets including CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and MSNBC have participated in private dinners and sponsored trips with the China-United States Exchange Foundation, a Chinese Communist Party-funded group seeking to garner “favorable coverage” and “disseminate positive messages” regarding China, The National Pulse can reveal.
They had to hate to report this: Gallup says that Trump is the most admired man in America, edging out Obama.
Trump got 18%, Obama 15% and Biden (drum roll please) 6%. Tell me again how he got over 80 million votes, the most of ANY presidential candidate in history, and 11 million more than Barack Obama received in the watershed election of 2008.
Interesting conversation with a caller to Hannity’s show a few days ago. The same guy (or someone reading from the same script) called Rush’s show today. Apparently he’s called a couple times. I caught a bit of Hannity’s show tonight (on a 3-hour tape delay), and it must have been a different conversation than the one linked above because he said he didn’t care if he was a casualty of the coming purge of Conservatives, which is heartening to hear that some on the Left realize there are going to be lots of casualties on their side. For some bizarre reason he thinks they’re going to win.
It’s interesting, in that he is the first person to come out and be a spokesperson for the Left in general, and say exactly what he and the Left want. He told the truth, in essence. Setting the stark line of contrast in plain view between tyranny on the left, and freedom on the right. He’s the first person I’ve ever heard say exactly what the Left wants. Although, most with a knowledge of right from wrong already knew that that’s what they want. The sad truth of the matter is that, he may be right…the world leaders who hold the levers of power, may pull the plug and call an end to 70% of the population on earth. At the end of the day, though, it only confirms the necessity of having firearms and a plan to use them when the time comes. I’ll be honest though, I don’t want to see it come to that. The thought of it drains the life out of me.
Continue to pray for our President, and Vice-President, their families, and the President’s cabinet members. Let’s pray that God will move in the hearts and minds of our leaders, and that He will have mercy on this country.
Of course he thinks the Left will win a real battle that does not depend on cheating. He’s a Leftist, which means he is pretty good at believing in the impossible.
Leftism is a bizarre fantasy which hides its love of oppression and brutality behind a facade of concern for people and a desire for everything to be “equal” and “fair”. The contrast between the two faces is quite stunning.
However, I am not sure I believe this caller. He is too smooth in his “confessions” of happiness at winning through cheating and so on.
I got the same impression. There was something phony about the way he talked. It really did sound like he was reading from a script. I have no doubt, though, that there are many on the Left who think they’ve already won.
It was almost like he was trying a false flag operation, sounding so blunt and smug about what the Left has done and praising it to point out how crazy the Left is.
But…..on the other hand we have certainly seen enough Lefties just here on the blog who obviously believe the end justifies the means and that anything the Left does to gain power is fine, and who are smug in their conviction the Right will be defeated for all time.
The caller reminded me of the one individual a number of years ago who, to my knowledge, is the only Lefty to ever articulate why he was attracted to the Liberal/Progressive ideology. And just like this caller, even though that Lefty troll stated what he believed and why, we all marveled that anyone who was as articulate as he was could believe what he professed to believe.
I have noticed, and commented on, the fact that none of these people who think they are explaining what they find appealing about the Left ever go deeper than the surface platitudes about what they think Leftist ideology might bring about. They are never asked to explain why they prefer to have power consolidated in the hands of a few, who then make decisions for everyone else.
The Left is always about platitudes and cliches, and are seldom questioned or challenged. “We need more diversity.” I ask “Why?” And I ask “What kind of diversity? Racial, religious, cultural, political, philosophical, educational, moral….what kinds of differences among people do you think would make this country a better/safer/more productive/happier place to live? Why?”
“The more people who vote, the better.” “Why?”
But mostly it comes down to “Why do you support a system which removes a great deal, if not most, of personal control over peoples’ lives and puts that control in the hands of a few?” It’s a perfectly good question, one that is never asked and therefore never answered—or, more likely, evaded.
In order for the Left to answer that question, would require them to admit to the evil desires deeply seated in the heart and mind of their being. It’s multi-faceted among different people on the Left. For example, some, like the caller into Hannity’s show, says that he hates capitalism, he hates those who have more than he does, eg the wealthy. Then there are others, who hate Christians, and by ceding power into the hands of a few, they can then look forward to the martyrdom of Christians, and people who don’t view religion the say as they do. There are still others on the Left who hate white people, because they are under the impression that white people are “racist bigots,” therefore, by putting all power into the hands of a few, they can look forward to the extermination of white people. Still others on the left hate responsibility for their actions, such as women and girls who become pregnant but would rather kill the child, rather than care for and nurture it.
There are undoubtedly other, different reasons among those in the Left-wing, socialist circles who wish to see all power put into the hands of a few. I just listed the ones I think are most prominent on the Left. Most of those listed, though, are because of Left-wing ideology placed before them in a classroom, or a professor at a seminar. And of course, the media incessant propagation of Left-leaning propaganda. Thus, the evil has been sown in the hearts, and minds of those who hold such ideologies. But again, getting them to pull out the true reasons is going to be impossible, because that would reveal their ultimate plan, which is death to anyone who has different viewpoints. It’s really rather simple, if they lie, then they will steal, and if they steal, then they will kill. Fortunately, though, they do not win, God wins. Pharaoh tried oppressing the Israelites, but he lost.
My theory is that while some people have actually thought it out far enough to believe they prefer a few elites to have most of the power, they also think they will be in that elite class. But I think most who support the Left, the average day to day Democrat who isn’t particularly political, who gets what he thinks is news from some alphabet network or maybe CNN or MSNBC, has such a shallow political perspective it goes no deeper than (1) the feel-good of that short cut to the Higher Moral Ground offered by the Left, in its message that if you are only FOR the right things you are automatically better than the opposition, which—because it IS the opposition must naturally be against those good things, and (2) Trump must be a truly vile and corrupt man because the media people he likes keep telling him so.
They have never stopped to consider that the system they are supporting is one that actually DOES consolidate power in the hands of a few elites or that it DOES strip people of freedoms. Sure it would be nice if they had a little more energy and curiosity, enough to do some research on their own, but they don’t, and we can’t whine about it. We have to recognize it and then either accept it as the way things are or step up to the plate and offer other, easily understood, ideas to balance the crap they have been fed.
We need to remember that while the Left is led and driven by wolves, it is supported and enabled by sheep, and the evil of sheep lies more in what they don’t do than in what they do.
A team of researchers understands more about the melting of the Greenland ice sheet. They discovered a flow of hot rocks, known as a mantle plume, rising from the core-mantle boundary beneath central Greenland that melts the ice from below.
The results of their two-part study were published in the Journal of Geophysical Research. “Knowledge about the Greenland plume will bolster our understanding of volcanic activities in these regions and the problematic issue of global sea-level rising caused by the melting of the Greenland ice sheet,” said Dr. Genti Toyokuni, co-author of the studies.
It will be interesting to see how they blame this on the lifestyle of the average Westerner. Last I checked, CO2 doesn’t burrow to the center of the earth and make molten rock bubble up. But for now, Bill Gates and his buddies can stop messing with the sun. It appears there is new science that has now been “settled” and the earth is warming itself.
I find that really interesting. Very fascinating.
I know lately there have been a lot of eruptive events around the world, Papua, Halema’uma’u crater has refilled with lava at the Kilauea volcano. Some fissures starting erupting just a few days before Christmas, and it has now replaced the water lake (from the collapse of the caldera during the 2018 event) with lava. I would like to get some of that to spread on my garden.
Here is a short clip from the Papua eruptive event. There was also an Etna eruption. There’s been some really bad earthquakes, too, as I understand.
Okay, correction, that was from 2014. Sorry about that.
Man, there’s an awful lot of rabble rousing over the decision to remove the Odyssey from a single curriculum someplace, considering it doesn’t even make the top 10 list of most read books in high school. It wasn’t ever taught in any of my high school classes, and I grew up in Texas with a reading list that wasn’t interested at all in diversity.
It turns out that when you have time for maybe 20 books in 4 years of high school, and in a lot of the country 1 year (or 5 of those books) is reserved exclusively for American literature, you’re going to not teach some things. All the jumping up and down seems to be because the teacher tweeted that she was “proud” to have it removed, but I had a high school teacher that seemed to be pretty proud that she managed to not have us spend time on reading The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, not because there was some secret SJW cause, but because she thought it was a bad use of our limited time.
Maybe the teacher was excited because she had something else she really wanted to teach instead of a 500+ page book that takes even more time than the length would imply because it’s old and translated and therefore difficult to follow for a modern reader?
It looks like you are defending the removal of The Odyssey because, well, (key high-pitched whining…) “it’s just too haaaard! And too looooooong! We need short easy stuff!”
That might be why YOU wouldn’t want to have to read it. The reasons given for removing it, however, are political. A Massachusetts school has reportedly removed “The Odyssey” from its English curriculum as progressive education activists and critical race theory ideologues seek to “disrupt texts” by purging material they deem objectionable from classrooms.
Meghan Cox Gurdon, in an opinion column for the Wall Street Journal, wrote about a “sustained effort” by “critical-theory ideologues, schoolteachers and Twitter agitators” to “deny children access to literature.” These activists object to classic texts, such as Homer’s Odyssey or Nathaniel Hawthorne’s “The Scarlet Letter,” because they allege such texts may teach “racism, sexism, ableism, anti-Semitism, and other forms of hate.”
So much for exposing children to fine writing—-you know, the kind where grammar is respected and authors don’t start with a singular noun—“a parent”—-and then lurch into a plural possessive—“their child”. Heaven forbid that our precious little snowflakes be exposed to something that is not consistent with their lazy bastardization of our language. And let’s protect them from the realization that apostrophes don’t belong in plural nouns or many possessives..
And for goodness’ sake, don’t put them in the position of having to actually THINK. You know, like having them read something like “To Kill A Mockingbird” and, after being exposed to the bigotry and hatred shown by some of the characters (which was, by the way, not only balanced but contradicted by the humanity of others) then draw their own conclusions about the corrosiveness and negativity of hate and racism. No, that would be asking far too much of them, though I think it is really asking far too much of the teachers to expect them to lead their students through these thought processes. So the conclusion drawn is to simply cancel this book, for the superficial reason of its portrayal of hate and bigotry (though these are portrayed in a way that points out how awful they are) and of course a couple of the characters use the dreaded and omnipotent “N-Word” which holds so much power over hearts and minds that to merely utter it is unacceptable in any context.
(Except, of course, in what Mark Steyn calls “hippety-hop”. It’s OK then. Uttered by the right people it lacks the ability to reduce its hearers to quivering masses of triggered hysteria.)
It is interesting that the Left can’t handle a book which contains any reference in any way to any kind or level of anything that might be considered “racist”, presumably because this might taint the fragile young minds and make them, somehow, also “racist”. But that “logic” does not extend to exposing them to pornographic trash like “The Bluest Eye”, which is mandatory reading in some Common Core curricula. If reading about something racist might corrupt a child into becoming racist, why doesn’t reading graphic descriptions of a child’s genitalia by a pedophile lead a child into incest and child rape?
Perhaps if your high school teacher had had a higher level of competence she would not only have understood the meaning of The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, she might have been able to convey to her students its lessons of the danger of allowing the negative in each of us to take control. Perhaps it was her sparing her students of the rigors of thought and analysis that has led to your current inability to be competent at either.
Perhaps it was her sparing her students of the rigors of thought and analysis that has led to your current inability to be competent at either.
One need look nor further than Tryvasty to see the results of that dynamic.
I just finished a survey by Hillsdale College regarding the Electoral College, and this quote popped up when I was finished. It couldn’t be more appropos.
“It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently a free people.”
– James Madison, Father of the Constitution
That was true in 1789 and it’s still true today.
And since when is the Odyssey or the Divine Comedy all that advanced? I think I got my first exposure to Homer in the 5th grade and to Dante in the 7th. And, hey: I could even understand what they were talking about! I know, shocking! And it was interesting stuff. The whole point of them – the reason why we’re still printing copies of Homer’s work thousands of years after he wrote it – is because it gets to the basic questions of human life…questions about bravery and honor and our place in the world and what the gods want of us. To displace this because it is written by a white guy is simply stupid…
And as for non-Western literature being slighted…it is slighted because it isn’t as good. Sorry to break it to the soft-minds out there, but we don’t pour over Chinese or Muslim literature all that much because it simply isn’t as good as Christian literature (or even Jewish literature such as the Book of Job). In a world of many civilizations, one of them is going to come out on top on this or that thing…and in literature, it is Europe (to really grind gears, European music also far surpasses all other civilizations). To not pay attention to what is best in humanity because some old, white guy wrote it is just stupid.
the reason why we’re still printing copies of Homer’s work thousands of years after he wrote it – is because it gets to the basic questions of human life…questions about bravery and honor and our place in the world
You actually nailed it, maybe unintentionally. Bravery and honor are not just attributes that the Left holds in disdain, they’re attributes that are an existential threat to the Left’s seizing and holding power. And they believe our place in the world should be on the same level as every other country. American exceptionalism is anathema to the Left.
“It looks like you are defending the removal of The Odyssey because, well, (key high-pitched whining…) “it’s just too haaaard! And too looooooong! We need short easy stuff!””
No, I’m saying school curriculums are an exercise in budgeting, and the cost in time of teaching the Odyssey is high enough that I find it perfectly reasonable that a teacher find other books a better cost vs reward.
“That might be why YOU wouldn’t want to have to read it.”
You’re barking up the entirely wrong tree if you’re trying to get into my personal literacy level, either now or when I was in high school.
“A Massachusetts school has reportedly removed “The Odyssey” from its English curriculum as progressive education activists and critical race theory ideologues seek to “disrupt texts” by purging material they deem objectionable from classrooms.”
You’ll notice that this sentence is carefully constructed to say that the removal happened _at the same time as_ not _as part of_ ideologues are disrupting texts. This is because there’s no actual evidence that one relates to the other, despite what the WSJ op-ed (notably not their actual news section) is intimating.
“So much for exposing children to fine writing—-you know, the kind where grammar is respected”
If you think The Odyssey is taught to teach people grammar, you either haven’t read or don’t remember it. It’s public domain, so you can go back and read the first couple of pages if you want to refresh your memory.
” So the conclusion drawn is to simply cancel this book, for the superficial reason of its portrayal of hate and bigotry”
Well, that and the rape. I don’t think To Kill A Mockingbird should be banned, but it’s important to note here that The Odyssey was not banned in this case, it was removed from a curriculum.
“But that “logic” does not extend to exposing them to pornographic trash like “The Bluest Eye”, which is mandatory reading in some Common Core curricula.”
I might surprise you to know this, but The Bluest Eye is also frequently challenged, also because it has a rape scene.
“Perhaps if your high school teacher had had a higher level of competence she would not only have understood the meaning of The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, she might have been able to convey to her students its lessons of the danger of allowing the negative in each of us to take control.”
The argument wasn’t in either that case or in the case of the Odyssey that there was no value, it’s again of budgeting. Teachers don’t drop a book from their curriculum so that their class can sit around and stare at a wall. They drop it and add other books to study instead. In my teacher’s estimation, the book we read instead was just more valuable. Budgeting, by the way, is a great lesson for high schoolers to learn.
That said, your literary analysis of Jekyll and Hyde is bad. Jekyll doesn’t run into trouble because he decides to let his bad side take control, he explicitly creates his potion because he recognizes the evil in himself and wants to externalize it to become a being of pure good, and his experiment goes awry.
“Perhaps it was her sparing her students of the rigors of thought and analysis that has led to your current inability to be competent at either.”
This and the non-applicable grammar study are actually the best reasons to not teach The Odyssey. Ancient epics tend to be an amalgamation of recorded folk tales and oral history, rather than literary works in the traditional sense. There’s therefore comparatively little to be done in the way of literary analysis.
You, of course, hadn’t considered this, because you are much better equipped to brag about your intellect than to actually exercise it.
“That was true in 1789 and it’s still true today.”
So true, in fact, that the more educated you are, the more liberal you tend to be.
It’s a cool story, and it speaks to us from across thirty centuries.
“And Ulysses answered, “King Alcinous, it is a good thing to hear a bard with such a divine voice as this man has. There is nothing better or more delightful than when a whole people make merry together, with the guests sitting orderly to listen, while the table is loaded with bread and meats, and the cup-bearer draws wine and fills his cup for every man. This is indeed as fair a sight as a man can see. Now, however, since you are inclined to ask the story of my sorrows, and rekindle my own sad memories in respect of them, I do not know how to begin, nor yet how to continue and conclude my tale, for the hand of heaven has been laid heavily upon me.
“Firstly, then, I will tell you my name that you too may know it, and one day, if I outlive this time of sorrow, may become my there guests though I live so far away from all of you. I am Ulysses son of Laertes, reknowned among mankind for all manner of subtlety, so that my fame ascends to heaven. I live in Ithaca, where there is a high mountain called Neritum, covered with forests; and not far from it there is a group of islands very near to one another- Dulichium, Same, and the wooded island of Zacynthus. It lies squat on the horizon, all highest up in the sea towards the sunset, while the others lie away from it towards dawn. It is a rugged island, but it breeds brave men, and my eyes know none that they better love to look upon. The goddess Calypso kept me with her in her cave, and wanted me to marry her, as did also the cunning Aeaean goddess Circe; but they could neither of them persuade me, for there is nothing dearer to a man than his own country and his parents, and however splendid a home he may have in a foreign country, if it be far from father or mother, he does not care about it. Now, however, I will tell you of the many hazardous adventures which by Jove’s will I met with on my return from Troy.”
Measure that against some of the works of today…it is simply better. And worth knowing: the first of humanity’s stories gathered together, if you like. And you want the kids to miss it.
Actually, the more education credentials you have the more Liberal you tend to be. Unfortunately, these days those credentials are unrelated to actual education.
Today’s Liberals are so illiberal their use of the word, without capitalizing it to indicate its alternative political meaning, is deceptive.
Just as Leftism is REgressive, while flaunting the word PROgressive, it is the antithesis of true liberalism, which is not political but philosophical.
So true, in fact, that the more educated you are, the more liberal you tend to be.
Is not a fact by any measure but rather an opinion and you should know the saying that goes with opinions.
Is not a fact by any measure but rather an opinion and you should know the saying that goes with opinions.
In fact, it has been measured.
Your “Proof” proves nothing but exactly what I expected from a lower life form.
But you see, after working for six years to get a degree in Transgendered Albino Eskimo Studies you can IDENTIFY as “educated”. While you are at work asking “Do you want fries with that?” and seething with resentment that your neighbor, the welder with two years of Community College, not only makes five times what you do but vacations in Europe where he polishes his French and who actually knows the history of his country and why he is a Conservative. But you can soothe yourself as you put the finishing touches on your pussy hat for the next Women’s March by reminding yourself that you, at least, are “better educated”.
So true, in fact, that the more educated you are, the more liberal you tend to be.
Except you missed the entire point of the quote, ” that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently a free people.”
And yet people who are highly “educated,” particularly in liberal arts, tend to favor a governmental system that will make them LESS free. That would seem to indicate that their education has been mostly indoctrination, that they’ve been taught what to think rather than how to think. There can’t be any other logical explanation because no thinking person would desire less freedom. It’s completely contrary to the natural yearning of the human spirit to be free.
Your “Proof” proves nothing but exactly what I expected from a lower life form.
So the Pew Research Center is a lower life form? It’s just one study. There are others.
What tryvasty said: Maybe the teacher was excited because she had something else she really wanted to teach instead of a 500+ page book that takes even more time than the length would imply because it’s old and translated and therefore difficult to follow for a modern reader?
That is, it’s just too long, and too hard to follow. What you said before you said something else.
I said “So much for exposing children to fine writing”
You came back with “If you think The Odyssey is taught to teach people grammar,…” which, of course, is not at all what I said.
In other words, you are just doing your bicker thing, because that is who you are and what you do. You toss out something as bait to try to get a response and then you quibble, nitpick and bicker bicker bicker. No wonder we get so tired of you so quickly.
“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.” Did you even study the Pew research post you posted? If you looked in-depth and understood it counters your argument but then again you probably just searched for the headline you wanted and that is the extent of your “research.”
Shallow pretty much defines the Left’s supporters and apologists. If they had the will or ability to dig a little deeper they would uncover the ugly truths about the political system they support and enable by their silly emotion-driven sniping.
But where’s the fun in that? If you are the kind of person who is gratified by the amount and degree of sheer nastiness you dump on others, you are not going to give up that vital source of emotional reward for the intellectual rewards of true knowledge and understanding.
I would recommend that get get educated but that might require reading a book or something.
I will recommend Charter Schools and Their Enemies by Thomas Sowell but that is 288 pages…oh, too much to read.
And reading Thomas Sowell requires—no, demands—intellectual engagement. It is not cartoon-level simple-mindedness like the pap fed to the Libs day in and day out by their masters through the lapdog Agenda Media.
Thank you for your response, db. From the article:
This is supported by their survey of 6,000 adults, and draws on Pew Research studies going back to 1994. What am I missing?
What am I missing?
What you are missing is the abysmal lack of actual knowledge it takes to get an advanced degree. When schools are letting students get masters degrees in English Literature without reading Shakespeare, when history majors don’t have to study American history, when “science” no longer depends on objective proofs which can be replicated by other scientists but depends on which theory gets the most votes and meets the most political agendas the claims of “advanced education” are pretty meaningless.
A truly educated person would know the history of the founding of this nation, would know the basis for the conclusions reached by the Founders as they formulated our rule of law, would know the arguments for and against various approaches to government. They would know that people like Washington and Jefferson inherited slaves in a culture in which this was normal, and in a state where it was illegal to free slaves, so worked within the system to try to end what they found abhorrent. They would know that abolition of slavery was promoted by Jefferson, and would understand the reason for not including it. They would understand the 3/5 clause, and not just parrot mindless crap about it meaning a slave was only 3/5 of a person. They would know not only that the Constitution was specifically written to ban federal handouts, they would know why.
There is no way to hear what these allegedly highly educated people say and believe and still think of them as even marginally well educated. Worse, to think of them as ethical and intelligent enough to care about facts and seek them out. “Higher education” today means merely highly indoctrinated. I am sure there were plenty of BS degrees and Masters and even PhDs out there dressed as female genitalia squalling like fishwives about whatever it was that had them shrieking in hysteria. They are so well educated they don’t even know that revoking Roe v Wade would not make abortion illegal, much less the solid Constitutional reasons for getting rid of this very bad law that have nothing at all to do with the sanctity of human life and everything to do with the sanctity of the restrictions of the 10th Amendment.
More and more, it is those who have escaped the intellectual swamp of “higher education” and taken it upon themselves to learn who are the truly educated.
Of course, to a Leftist one can simply identify as educated.
What you are missing is the abysmal lack of actual knowledge it takes to get an advanced degree.
Not a single word regarding the matter I was respond to db about. Thanks for playing.
What you said:
Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values. And these differences have increased over the past two decades.
This is supported by their survey of 6,000 adults, and draws on Pew Research studies going back to 1994. What am I missing?
The answer was specific to the question which was specific to your citation. If you can’t see the direct relationship among (1) your citation; (2) your question, and (3) my response then clearly you way over your head on this blog.
Are you shifting from bicker to snark, or just multi tasking?
The answer was specific to the question which was specific to your citation.
You did not address the Pew Research article at all, nor did you address why the Pew Research article does not say what it says, as implied by dbschmidt. Nor did you address the point at hand, which is db’s claim that the correlation between liberal views and education is merely an opinion. In fact, it has been studied and is a fact. I know this troubles you.
Oh, stop being silly and stop bickering. You don’t get to dictate the terms of what we say. You want to bicker about the Pew study, so you can quibble and, well, bicker. Tough. The basic message was that supposedly “well educated” people tend to be more Leftist, and my response, anyway, was that the term “well educated” is meaningless as credentials have nothing to do with education these days. I had to look up a favorite Sowell quotation, to make sure I got it right: What is called an educated person is often someone who has had a dangerously superficial exposure to a wide spectrum of subjects. To that I would add “to dangerously superficial ideas about superficial subjects.”
So whine and whimper all you want because no one felt like getting dragged into one of your interminable bickerfests where you pick pick pick at every word and comment. Perfect example: “Longer” is not the same as “too long.” Just give it a rest, already.
It is normal, in real conversations, for a thought to lead to another thought that leads to another, and so on. But you don’t do conversations, you just want to bait people into responding to some inane comment and then whine if people don’t follow your arbitrary rules about how to respond.
You made a statement, citing a poll. The poll is not interesting or compelling. Move on or shut up.
Better yet, shut up and then move on.
“It’s a cool story, and it speaks to us from across thirty centuries.
Measure that against some of the works of today…it is simply better. And worth knowing: the first of humanity’s stories gathered together, if you like. And you want the kids to miss it.”
To be clear, I don’t “want the kids to miss it.” The Odyssey is indeed a good story. The question is whether it is reasonable to be outraged that some teacher somewhere didn’t want to teach it. The bar therefore has to be whether it’s so important for kids to read in high school that reasonable minds couldn’t possibly find 20 books in all of history that they could believe were at least as relevant and useful to teach in high school English classes.
If you would like to make that case, go for it, but short of that, it’s a nothing story. The book isn’t banned. There was no manifesto posted from the teacher about the book being harmful to anybody. Nobody as far as I can tell even has reported on what it replaced in the lesson plan with.
“While you are at work asking “Do you want fries with that?” and seething with resentment that your neighbor, the welder with two years of Community College, not only makes five times what you do but vacations in Europe where he polishes his French and who actually knows the history of his country and why he is a Conservative”
I’m not sure where you are trying to go with this. I make a lot more than a welder does.
“And yet people who are highly “educated,” particularly in liberal arts, tend to favor a governmental system that will make them LESS free. That would seem to indicate that their education has been mostly indoctrination, that they’ve been taught what to think rather than how to think. There can’t be any other logical explanation because no thinking person would desire less freedom. It’s completely contrary to the natural yearning of the human spirit to be free.”
It’s certainly not a phenomenon restricted to liberal arts. Engineers, for instance, skew heavily liberal as well.
You are also begging the question. They don’t favor a governmental system that makes them less free, they just disagree with you on which policies result in greater liberty.
“That is, it’s just too long, and too hard to follow. What you said before you said something else.”
This hardly merits comment but it is abundantly obvious that your quoted passage does not say what you claim it is saying. “Longer” is not the same as “too long.”
For instance, if I tell you that a foot is longer than an inch, it would not be correct to claim that I said that a foot is “too long”
“I said “So much for exposing children to fine writing”
You came back with “If you think The Odyssey is taught to teach people grammar,…” which, of course, is not at all what I said.”
It’s literally in the same sentence you partially quoted from yourself.
— “So much for exposing children to fine writing—-you know, the kind where grammar is
Yep, those ancient Greeks sure did respect English grammar.
“And reading Thomas Sowell requires—no, demands—intellectual engagement.”
Please list the Thomas Sowell books you have read. Not op-ed pieces, full on 100+ page books.
Also, just to clearly ask the question, have you ever actually read The Odyssey? If so, which particular aspects of the work do you think merit its inclusion in a high school curriculum?
Oh, blah blah blah blah blah. You need to believe that being a Leftist is somehow connected to being credentialed as educated which is supposedly connected to being smart, therefore being a Lefty is proof that you are smart.
You just keep telling yourself that. Just quit trying to tell us. You seem to really need confirmation that being a Leftist doesn’t really mean you are gullible and incapable of analysis of economics, history, human nature or politics so you obsess about some poll that supports that wishful thinking. And then you call the results of a poll “facts”. Whatever. Not our problem. Your interminable yammering and pathetic bids for attention are very tiresome.
In fact, it has been studied and is a fact. I know this troubles you.
Troubles us? LOL. Get over yourself. Better yet, get lost.
Yeah, Spook, I caught that smug preening delusion, too. And my reaction was pretty much the same as yours.
It’s interesting, in a clinical way, to see the odd juxtaposition of the frantic need for attention shown by incessant efforts to draw people into bickerfests where he can control the discourse by picking and choosing which sentence, phrase or syllable he wants to nitpick and obsess over ( “Longer” is not the same as “too long.” ) in a pathetic pretense of engaging in actual discourse, with the smug condescension of someone convinced of his own superiority. On one hand he is desperate for even the illusion of being taken seriously and on the other hand he seems to think he is. He’s an odd, and disturbed, little duck.
He reminds me of the armless, legless, knight in the Monty Python movie, impotent yet convinced he poses a threat.
Talk about timing. This joke just arrived in my email inbox:
You want to bicker about the Pew study, so you can quibble and, well, bicker.
All I did was politely point out to db that the correlation between education and liberalism is not an opinion, but has in fact been studied. To which you responded with voluminous verbiage that amounts to little more than redefining education to suit your purposes.
Oh, it’s been STUDIED ! I guess that’s all we need to know. Of course, such a study is based on a premise, or at least purports to prove a premise, which is that the more “educated” a person is, the more he or she is likely to prefer a political system which consolidates power in the hands of a few elites, leaving little in the way of personal liberty or responsibility with the states or the people.
As millions of people who function very well in the world and in society disagree strongly with the intelligence of such a position, the associated assertion of a link between it and intelligence is quite suspect.
As far as “redefining education to suit your purposes.” that is a perfect description of what the Left has been doing for a couple of decades now.
And I see you are back to whimpering about too many words (“voluminous verbiage”). That seems to be a theme of the intellectually limited, as an excuse for ignoring or denying what is said or just not bothering to read it.
the correlation between education and liberalism
No, the correlation is between the level of education and liberalism, not education and liberalism. The level of education is how many courses of study, years of study, etc. one has, while education equates to what is actually learned. I’ve known people who had multiple post graduate degrees who didn’t have enough common sense to come in our of the rain. I’m reminded of the old saying, “I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.” My guess would be that you probably have a fairly high “level” of education.
So is that confirmation that you have not read The Odyssey or a single Thomas Sowell book?
Not sure who your question is aimed at, but I’ve read Sowell’s A Conflict of Visions and I’ve also read The Odyssey.
Spook, I believe I recommended Conflict of Visions to you, after I read it. I would still like to find or start a conservative book club and start with that book, as I think it calls for discussion and analysis that might bring out more nuance than a single reader might discern. As we discussed, the book gets a little dense toward the end and I would like to have a group leader like a teacher lead discussions on it.
I also liked Intellectuals and Society and Black Rednecks and White Liberals. I lost several Sowell books I hadn’t yet had a chance to read when my house burned down, and I have picked up a few more but not gotten to them yet. I was about halfway through Economic Facts and Fallacies when I had my fire and just never got back to it. I like to buy political and history and philosophy books in hard cover form, but do most of my reading on a Nook because I have a vision problem and the back lighting and contrast adjustment on the Nook make it easier to read. However, one of my goals for the long dark nights of late winter is to work my way through Charter Schools and Their Enemies, Discrimination and Disparities, and Wealth, Poverty and Politics. I may buy second copies of these books on Nook and keep the hard copies in my library for reference.
No, the correlation is between the level of education and liberalism, not education and liberalism.
Fine. And level of education is a good, if imperfect proxy, for how educated an individual is. Look, I get that you and Amazona resent people who attain higher degrees of education, so you hand wave about how meaningless it is. Let me ask you a question. Do you urge your children and grandchildren to skip college?
Oh, you pissy little twit, give it a rest. I can’t tell if your mind is just so twisted it automatically defaults to the nastiest, ugliest and most hostile possible spin on anything, or if you work at it, but it doesn’t matter because I don’t care. You can invent all the silly shit you want about how some of us “…resent people who attain higher degrees of education…” but that is all based on those filters in your own mind.
Personally, I have the highest degree of respect and admiration for people who truly do “attain higher degrees of education”, those who do it formally and with accreditation and those who do it on their own. So spare me your cheap psychoanalyzing BS.
I have no use for what too often passes for “education” in most of our formal educational factories. I have no use for fake credentials, handed out for BS classes. “Studies” classes and majors are a joke.
Anyone who is truly educated is well versed not only in the sordid history of always-failed Leftist governance but in the basic structure of Leftist models, and can recognize those structures no matter what flag they might be flying. The ignorant merely scoff at the concept of political structure and ridicule the very concept of a “political philosophy”. That is why when one of you trolls who happens to have a good vocabulary and writing skills still supports and enables those Leftist political models I can’t think of you as educated, because truly educated people can’t advocate for repeated failure, economic misery and too often the slaughter of millions just because they are drawn to shallow platitudes and the empty promise of a short cut to the Higher Moral Ground. That is the territory of the uneducated, intellectually shallow and emotion-dependent.
One of the things I notice about people like you is the dependence on lies. When you feel compelled to keep stringing together words (whether this is due to a personal compulsion or a job requirement) and your “ideas” have been shot down you inevitably resort to lies like claiming that DB and I resent people who are well educated.
You also try to keep the bickerfest going by asking inane questions. You are so transparent.
Just to make them feel better.. I currently hold 2 Bachelors and a Masters with (minus a thesis) a Doctorate but I won’t make you call me Doctor (PhD) like some insecure folks. All are STEM related. I have also read all of Mr. Sowell’s books plus many others including many of the greats over time. I try to average 2 or 3 per week depending on my work schedule.
I have probably worked just about every crappy job on this planet (honey dipper included) but nothing compared to Mike Rowe where you might learn a thing or two. Served 9 plus years in the Marines and believe I might just be a little right of Genghis Khan as far as political stance. Personally don’t care or think much about you or your types as they add nothing to the discussion let alone life in general.
Even though I have no children by choice; however, I have recommended to my nieces alternatives to traditional college. I spent a lot of time and my own money in trade schools to learn things that interest me. Several are things like timber-framing, hydroponics (which is next indoors) plus the more traditional like auto repair/ body repair, welding, electrical, plumbing, etc.
Your proof is exactly what I said–crap. Where is the underlying data so I can manipulate the results like the study? Who, where,when were these 6,000 respondents? San Francisco? There is too much to go into without them laying all data bare. Obviously, the obvious to too obvious for you. You are the same folks that can see all of the evidence of voter fraud in the past election but not call it out.
Please don’t bother responding because, personally, I don’t give a F**K about anything you think you may have to add here.
BTW, just to help out here–one of the best known and used tactics to “adjust” the results of a survey is not just where you ask and of whom but what exactly are the questions asked. But anyone with a higher education would have already known that. Right?
Did work with folks who did this for a living and “adjusted” the questions for the client Oops, I mean the results changed as did the questions asked even if they meant the same thing overall. Any idea why they did not sell their market share of Dewalt (Yellow) or other tools in S. America as well as Sears? Because they were not black and the folks in S. America thought only black colored tools were real tools. Couple of companies changed product lines after that one.
DB, your DeWalt story reminds me of the one about the failure of Chevrolet to sell their Nova cars in Mexico and South America. It seems that the marketing geniuses at GM never bothered to find out that “no va” means “it doesn’t go”.
My question was for Amazona, who has clearly dodged it and therefore I can only conclude has very strong opinions about the importance of reading The Odyssey and the intellect required to read Thomas Sowell despite never having read any of the above.
You have no standing to demand an answer from anyone. No one is obligated to join, or be drawn into, your bicker game. And you really should pay attention to the fact that you have accurately been called out as a serial liar, the most recent example being your unfounded and false claim that I have never read The Odyssey or any of Thomas Sowell’s books. Any query based on lies is simply dismissed as just more pathological flaunting of a pathetic effort to be part of a discussion by tossing out inane questions.
Nice try, buckaroo, but it’s too late. You’d have jumped at the opportunity to rub it in my face if you had actually read any of those things, but you have not, so instead you tried to move on and hope nobody would notice.
Huh? You’re not even going through the motions of trying to act as if you have something to say. Of course, with such a history of failure when you do try I guess I can understand why you just gave up.
So you just go sit in a corner and soothe yourself with your fantasies that when you are ignored it is really only because the people ignoring you are stumped, stymied, absolutely bumfuddled by your brilliant interrogatory skills and not that they find you excruciatingly boring and tiresome, and the total absence of responses to your inane and pathetic efforts to keep things going by asking silly questions is really proof that they simply can’t, somehow proving that you scored some kind of imaginary points in this imaginary game that only you are playing.
I believe another way to put it is that you are playing with yourself. No surprise there.
Starting to wonder if there is a giant vortex over DC that sucks the brains out of all of our Congresscritters. I will be the first to admit the cost of living is different in NC and NY–in particular NYC. Our idiot government has calculated these differences since I was in the Marines in 1980. Here is just one example you can easily find; https://www.gsa.gov/travel/plan-book/per-diem-rates
Now, take those ~$2,000 checks, drop those that have not lost their jobs or have changed jobs (Me inclusive) but not lost wages and adjust it downward so those hardest hit are compensated. I can live without it and I am pretty sure Pelsoi can afford to refill her $24,000 freezer without any more help than she already gets from Gobermint.
One thing I would like to see is an end-to end audit of every member of Congress under the lens of a sharp penciled auditor to include how votes effect their income/family wealth like American Somoa and no minimum wage increase.
Another point came to mind today–I know and disagree with members of the House and Senate being protected no matter how bad the lies on the floor but does that include going on the talking heads on the weekend???
Don’t even get me started on this Covid BS or the election as the truth is coming out whether our “liberal masters” think so or not.
Happy New Year! 🎆
Happy New Year to you as well, Jeremiah, and to everyone else here.
Thanks Spook! 🙂
I echo the wishes for a good New Year, though my wishes are tinged with more than a little skepticism about just how good it is going to be.
But I just found another voice of reason, a guest on the Glenn Beck show this morning. His name is Gad Saad, and when I got home I looked him up on the net.
There are still embers of sanity out there, and a little hope that they might be blown into flames.
From Saad, quoting the British actor Edward Fox:
Wokism is just presumed moral superiority, that’s all it is. It is power dressed as compassion. It’s a signal of virtue rather than the real thing.
Naturally I like this because it echoes what I have been saying for years: That Leftism’s greatest allure is its promise of being a short cut to the Higher Moral Ground, where all that is necessary to feel morally superior is to be FOR the “right things”.
That is bad enough, and it allowed millions of morally lazy people to feel good about themselves without actually doing anything to justify it. It was codified in the concept of “self esteem” which was then assumed to be acquired by being assured of specialness without earning it, along with being spared the potential of disappointment inherent in competition.
But then it took a very ugly turn, and morphed into the toxic yet woke-approved cancer of derision of others, based on those beliefs of moral superiority and inherent specialness. Now, instead of quietly preening over their supposed moral superiority, these people are using it to justify vicious attacks on others, to the point of arguing for drastic punishments for failing to share the exact same wokist frame of mind.
Now it is the basis for vigilantism, like the boy who saved an Instagram post by a fellow student for two years until he could bring it out to harm her. He said he was justified, because “she deserved it”, and he was backed up by the woke Thought Police who used one word in a post by a young girl years ago to get her kicked out her college and fired from her job.
Now we are seeing powerful people in positions of authority, or at least people who will be in positions of authority if Biden is crowned president in spite of the blatant frauds that got him millions of fake votes, promising to exert that power to punish those of us who have different personal or political beliefs. Perhaps it is a natural evolution of smug self-righteousness taken to the point of being the foundation for violence and oppression, the belief that people who engage in Wrongthink must be tracked down, punished, “reeducated” and either eliminated or forced into Rightthink.
They might TRY the things you suggest if Harris and Biden take office on the 20th, but they will encounter a resistance unlike anything which they applied against Trump. The Trump resistance was based, as Edward Fox says, on wokism, the feeling of moral superiority, while our resistance will be based on the inherent yearning of the human spirit for freedom. Big difference — BIG DIFFERENCE!
He said he was justified, because “she deserved it”, and he was backed up by the woke Thought Police who used one word in a post by a young girl years ago to get her kicked out her college and fired from her job.
And what do you think her reaction will be: “Oh, I guess I’d better fall in line?” Somehow I don’t think so. At least that wouldn’t be MY reaction.
I think we need to analyze the process of the Left actually achieving what it is talking about. It’s not as if on January 21 Meat Puppet Biden is going to order the military to go round up Trump supporters. We have two years to take over the House and firm up our hold on the Senate, which would have a chilling effect on anything President Harris wants to try.
Those two years can be made very tough on the Dems. We talk about them running roughshod over the nation, bringing in millions of illegal residents to shore up Dem votes, packing the Supreme Court and establishing permanent one party rule. But that is based on the assumption that all 222 Democrat Representatives and 50 or 51 Senators (if we lose one or two seats in Georgia) will vote to permanently damage the country. And I just don’t believe they would. Not all of them.
Too many Dem Representatives made it by the skin of their teeth this time, and have to know that if they pull something so radical they are signing their political death warrants. Whether motivated by political ambition or simple patriotism, decisions are not guaranteed. We usually see Dems voting in lockstep as directed by their masters, but the Dem Party is in upheaval now, with its leadership up for grabs. and there might be less cohesion than we usually see—especially in areas as contentious as reworking the entire Constitutional model to gain political power. This is something that will not play well to the public, except for the anything-goes-power-at-all-costs radicals, and I am sure every single Dem Representative is going to be aware of that.
So we have the task of forming strong grass roots pressure points on moderate Dems, in the House and in the Senate, polling about approval of remodeling the entire judicial system, establishing one-party rule and so on. We can’t just sigh and roll over and wait to be buried.
I am starting to believe that this entire mess has gone on for too long and is too deep to unravel short of basically starting over. I am no isolationist but I am a believer in we need time without paying for the world to straighten out our own mess. Billions of taxpayer dollars to the rest of the world including the CCP and they refuse to pay their bills to us. Cut them off wholesale and see what happens. Same with the rest of the world on a lesser stance.
Simplicity would be nice. Why don’t we pay our taxes (if we have to at all) to our State and then the State in turn sends a portion to the Federal Government to perform it’s enumerated duties and no more. Unscrew what activist judges have done over the years including the 10th amendment.
As someone posted elsewhere today (paraphrasing) How the seeds of revolution were planted. We met in taverns…we met in restaurants…we met in church. Understand the closures now?
“Cut them off wholesale”
I would add some militarized actions against the CCP, as well. Take out all of their military installations, heads of states, and so on. After all the harm they have done to the United States and the world. Tariffs are just blowing in the wind, in my opinion. They need to feel the full weight of what they have done.
Whole different story and I will post a reference or two in the future but under all of this Wuhan Covid-19 crap I have a feeling you will find the US Government. Kind of like scratch a liberal ~ find a Marxist. I feel the US Government is sooo deep in this crap I would hold them accountable as well.
Let us just say that when things get a little dicey…the US ships its studies from our Level 4 laboratory offshore to China in a US funded Level 4 laboratory. Problem being this time is not lead paint but a Level 4 lab using Level 2 protocols and swoop, out sneaks a modified (engineered) virus.
“…. out sneaks a modified (engineered) virus” that conveniently pops up in the beginning of the re-election cycle of the most successful and popular president we have had for many decades, who has posed literally an existential threat to the throttlehold the Left has had on our government. His deft undermining of the de facto 4th branch of government, that of unelected political appointees making laws and regulations without even the oversight of Congress, has had the Left in a panic. His success in returning the judiciary at every level to a more law-based function instead of activist legislation from the bench was not only making it harder to get away with unconstitutional antics it was calling attention to the unethical rulings of many Liberal judges and justices.
Something had to be done. It couldn’t be a war—he was actually trying to get us out of wars, and he was actively brokering peace in the Mideast with great success. It couldn’t be economic—-his grasp of business and economics had our economy booming. It couldn’t be more federal agencies mounting government-supported attacks on him—that blew up in their collective federal faces. It couldn’t be the House of Representatives—they gave it their best shot, but they were a pathetic failure and came close to handing the House back to the GOP. It couldn’t be the Agenda Media—they were doing their best but he just laughed at them, and pretty soon most of the country was laughing along with him. But it had to be big, and so scary that people were panicking and looking to the president to save them, meaning it would be easy to claim he wasn’t doing enough.
Which they did.
Abortion Leading Global Cause of Death in 2020 with 42.7 Million Killed
As of December 31, 2020, there were 42.7 million abortions performed in the course of the year, Worldometer revealed, while 8.2 million people died from cancer, 5 million from smoking, and 1.7 million of HIV/AIDS.
By comparison, worldwide deaths from the coronavirus in 2020 totaled 1.8 million, according to Johns Hopkins University.
Proud? The amazing, to me, part of it all is if their parents had aborted them…
Off topic but I also see Georgia is trying to destroy the evidence before they are found out…abortion of a different nature.
Very sad news. 😦
WE CAUGHT THEM: Pallets of Fake Ballots in Georgia’s Fulton County Were Identified, Filmed and Sampled Before Moving Trucks Picked Them Up and Shredded Them
What if they threw an inauguration and nobody came?
That seems to have been worrying the Biden/Harris contingent, particularly given the possibility of a few hundred thousand Trump supporters in the rest of DC letting the world know how they feel about the Pretender-Elect being anointed president.
So they are basically canceling the inauguration. . “President-elect Biden and Vice-President-elect Harris will take their oaths of office at the U.S. Capitol during a historic ceremony that includes vigorous health and safety protocols,” the inaugural committee confirmed in a press release.
“The ceremony’s footprint will be extremely limited, and the parade that follows will be reimagined.
I wonder if his own inauguration ceremony will have little girls line up in front of him, for stroking and fondling and crotch-rubbing. After all, if it’s good enough for new members of Congress, isn’t it good enough for Uncle Gropy?
“Reimagined”. Uh-huh. But what else can they do? Have Biden tottering down the street and being herded like a sheep to keep him going in a straight line? Have Biden stumbling down the street in a walker? Maybe they could strap him onto a furniture dolly and wheel him along. Kammy would no doubt insist on a drum majorette costume with those high boots with tassels, leading the band, because after all she is supposed to be the Main Event. But she might settle for a tiara. I could “reimagine” the parade with all 15 of its participants wearing giant hoops hanging from their waists to establish their social distancing theology.
Let’s be very clear on this—–it’s not because Biden has so few supporters. It’s not because when he did have an event no one came. It’s not because their “parade” would be laughably pathetic. It’s not because the guy who got millions more votes than his old boss, Obama, would have to be sworn in in front of nearly empty stands—talk about bad optics! (Speaking of bad optics, photos of meek little sheep all dressed up and obediently wearing their face diapers wouldn’t be a great addition to the archives.)
And it’s sure not because of the inevitable comparison of a few bored old fossils dragged in to try to make it look like Biden really does have “supporters” while a block or two away half a million people, give or take a few hundred thousand, are raucously proclaiming not just their support for Donald Trump but their conviction he is still the legally elected president.
Of course not.
Come on, man! You know it’s the ‘Rona! You know, if it weren’t for this deadly lethal virus, so fearsome you have to be tested to even know if you have it, huge stands would be packed with cheering Biden supporters celebrating his ascendance to the position he has wanted ever since he went head to head with a really bad dude all those years ago. Suck on this, Corn Pop! And the parade—the parade would have been awesome, dude, like the parades they have for Super Bowl champions only a lot bigger, because. But, too bad, so sad, Covid is to blame. So unfriending the ChiComs and telling them they can’t come to the party is no longer a problem—no party, no problem.
I am going with parking. DC on a good day is horrible and where can they get the room for the 80 plus millions that would show. Guess they could use school buses as all of the educators and union bosses are claiming it is too dangerous to go back to school but PR is A-OK.
You know, for some reason I idiotically believed that once we had an election where Trump got the brakes beaten off of him that I’d finally stop having to hear people brag about crowd sizes. It’s especially funny to hear you try to trash talk inauguration crowd sizes, though.
Oh, give it a rest. That effort has been refuted so often I am kind of embarrassed for you for even dragging it out. For the inherent dishonesty of it, for the obsession with Trump, and for your general hate-based triviality.
If you identify as a man (which I sometimes question) you should know that peevishness is one of the least manly characteristics. Your mommy should have taught you that. I sometimes question your gender identification because so much of your carrying-on is just so, well, bitchy.
I sent the following email to both of my Senators, Mike Braun and Todd Young on December 19th:
From: xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Reject electoral votes from Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada
Dear Senator Braun,
Given the overwhelming direct and circumstantial evidence of multiple levels
of malfeasance in the electoral process in the above mentioned states, I
implore you to honor your Constitutional oath and object to the validation of
the electoral votes from those states. The trust of tens of millions of
Americans and the future of our Republic depend on honorable men like you
stepping up to do the right thing.
LCDR, USNR – retired
And here is Senator Mike Braun’s reply:
January 2, 2021
Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxx
Thank you for contacting me regarding the certification of the Electoral College. Please find my complete joint statement on this issue below:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 2, 2021
Senator Braun Releases Joint Statement on Joint Session, January 6
WASHINGTON — U.S. Senators Mike Braun (R-Ind.), Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), James Lankford (R-Okla.), Steve Daines (R-Mont.), John Kennedy (R-La.), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), and Senators-Elect Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.), Roger Marshall (R-Kan.), Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.), and Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) announced today in a joint statement they will reject electors from disputed states, called for a commission to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in those states, and for those states to convene special legislative sessions to certify their vote in a manner consistent with the findings of the commission’s audit.
“America is a Republic whose leaders are chosen in democratic elections. Those elections, in turn, must comply with the Constitution and with federal and state law.
“When the voters fairly decide an election, pursuant to the rule of law, the losing candidate should acknowledge and respect the legitimacy of that election. And, if the voters choose to elect a new office-holder, our Nation should have a peaceful transfer of power.
“The election of 2020, like the election of 2016, was hard fought and, in many swing states, narrowly decided. The 2020 election, however, featured unprecedented allegations of voter fraud, violations and lax enforcement of election law, and other voting irregularities.
“Voter fraud has posed a persistent challenge in our elections, although its breadth and scope are disputed. By any measure, the allegations of fraud and irregularities in the 2020 election exceed any in our lifetimes.
“And those allegations are not believed just by one individual candidate. Instead, they are widespread. Reuters/Ipsos polling, tragically, shows that 39% of Americans believe ‘the election was rigged.’ That belief is held by Republicans (67%), Democrats (17%), and Independents (31%).
“Some Members of Congress disagree with that assessment, as do many members of the media.
“But, whether or not our elected officials or journalists believe it, that deep distrust of our democratic processes will not magically disappear. It should concern us all. And it poses an ongoing threat to the legitimacy of any subsequent administrations.
“Ideally, the courts would have heard evidence and resolved these claims of serious election fraud. Twice, the Supreme Court had the opportunity to do so; twice, the Court declined.
“On January 6, it is incumbent on Congress to vote on whether to certify the 2020 election results. That vote is the lone constitutional power remaining to consider and force resolution of the multiple allegations of serious voter fraud.
“At that quadrennial joint session, there is long precedent of Democratic Members of Congress raising objections to presidential election results, as they did in 1969, 2001, 2005, and 2017. And, in both 1969 and 2005, a Democratic Senator joined with a Democratic House Member in forcing votes in both houses on whether to accept the presidential electors being challenged.
“The most direct precedent on this question arose in 1877, following serious allegations of fraud and illegal conduct in the Hayes-Tilden presidential race. Specifically, the elections in three states — Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina — were alleged to have been conducted illegally.
“In 1877, Congress did not ignore those allegations, nor did the media simply dismiss those raising them as radicals trying to undermine democracy. Instead, Congress appointed an Electoral Commission — consisting of five Senators, five House Members, and five Supreme Court Justices — to consider and resolve the disputed returns.
“We should follow that precedent. To wit, Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission’s findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.
“Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not ‘regularly given’ and ‘lawfully certified’ (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed.
“We are not naïve. We fully expect most if not all Democrats, and perhaps more than a few Republicans, to vote otherwise. But support of election integrity should not be a partisan issue. A fair and credible audit — conducted expeditiously and completed well before January 20 — would dramatically improve Americans’ faith in our electoral process and would significantly enhance the legitimacy of whoever becomes our next President. We owe that to the People.
“These are matters worthy of the Congress, and entrusted to us to defend. We do not take this action lightly. We are acting not to thwart the democratic process, but rather to protect it. And every one of us should act together to ensure that the election was lawfully conducted under the Constitution and to do everything we can to restore faith in our Democracy.”
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I still wonder if there is a requirement for certifying votes. That is, is there a penalty for certifying votes that cannot be legitimately certified as valid? It seems to me that the act of certifying is one of great responsibility, requiring the person to have good reason to state that the vote count is accurate. Under that standard, which I think is reasonable, certification based on political agenda for example of a vote count that is proved to be irregular at best and riddled with fraud at worst would seem to be form of perjury. Maybe not perjury in the strict sense, but something akin to that—a public official signing a statement that something is true and accurate even with abundant evidence and even proof that it is not ought to incur some kind of penalty or consequence.
If certification can’t be assumed to represent accuracy, then why bother with it at all?
Falsely certifying a vote count would fall under a state law. In Washington State, for example, the general Officers—Violations generally law reads: Every person charged with the performance of any duty under the provisions of any law of this state relating to elections, including primaries, or the provisions of any charter or ordinance of any city or town of this state relating to elections who willfully neglects or refuses to perform such duty, or who, in the performance of such duty, or in his or her official capacity, knowingly or fraudulently violates any of the provisions of law relating to such duty, is guilty of a class C felony punishable under RCW 9A.20.021 and shall forfeit his or her office.
Then RCW 29A.84.711
Documents regarding nomination, election, candidacy—Frauds and falsehoods applies. It reads:
Every person who:
(1) Knowingly and falsely issues a certificate of nomination or election; or
(2) Knowingly provides false information on a minor party or independent candidate certificate of nomination is guilty of a class C felony punishable under RCW 9A.20.021.
I would expect every state to have some sort of law or regulation covering the requirement of honesty in certifying election results. Yet those in states with abundant proof of serious irregularities can’t legitimately certify that their vote count is accurate, and certainly states where overt fraud has been shown can’t legitimately do so. At no time have I seen pressure put on those with the responsibility of certification to apply reasonable standards of certainty regarding their vote count and certification.
Which, of course, means that certification is meaningless. A law without a penalty is the same thing as no law at all.
“Richie” is a professional gambler and a convicted horse-race fixer.
Back in the day, Richie may have been the greatest and most prolific horse-race fixer in history. He fixed over 1,000 horse races in 11 years at every racetrack in California, bribing over 100 jockeys. Eventually, he was convicted and served time in prison.
That was 25 years ago. Today, Richie is one of the good guys and a respected member of his community, as well as a noted philanthropist. But Richie still has his street smarts — something no one in Washington, D.C., has. For over 50 years, he witnessed the smartest and sharpest scammers and cheaters in the gambling world. No one can spot a scam like Richie. My buddy has a Ph.D. in the Art of the Steal.
Richie watched and studied the 2020 presidential election. He calls it “the greatest scam and steal in world history.” He says anyone who denies this election was stolen is a criminal who was in on the scam; a bribed politician or bureaucrat who benefits from the scam; or a complete naive moron.
Yep, those are the same options I came up with, though I had a fourth category: Leftists who thinks any means justify the end of gaining and keeping Leftist power. These are the liars, the apologists, the enablers, who steadfastly deny the abundance of compelling evidence and simply claim this was a “fair and honest election”.
Street-smart Richie says this case is such a slam dunk that any judge who throws it out is dirty and any prosecutor who can’t convict these scammers should lose his or her license to practice law.
Jan. 20 will determine whether we are still a nation of laws or a corrupt, third-world banana republic where horse-race fixers tell the truth and politicians are the real scam artists.
Well… If “Richie” says there was fraud, that settles it.
Honestly, Amazona. Really? “Richie”?
What? You’re stopping with a sneer at his name? No claim he was drunk when he said it? Come on, man.
Come on. Do you really take this seriously? No wonder the Trump campaign lost 59 out of 60 court cases.
You can’t lose a case the court didn’t hear.
The courts have been terrified of having to rule on an election issue so they have used one excuse after another to avoid even hearing a case. And you know this. Everyone knows this. Yet you love the lie. even though it is transparently false and could appeal only to the seriously uneducated who have no idea how the court system works.
One of the “laches” cases moved from Orwell to Vonnegut. In a classic Catch-22 move, the court said the case was filed too late, should have been filed as soon as the election law was illegally changed and the plaintiffs should not have waited till after the election so tough luck, we won’t hear it. But the core election law said that no challenge could be filed until after the election.
And you are so lacking in personal dignity that you don’t even mind repeating a lie everyone knows is not only stupid, is not only wholly false, but is nothing but a reflection of a sad, sick, bitter and hate-oriented pathology.
I received an email this morning with a bunch of 2020 and age related jokes including this one:
Friends and acquaintances who tend toward conspiracy theories seem to have inundated my inbox in the last few days. This latest is so far out there, I have no idea if any of it is true, and I doubt that Candace Owens actually wrote it. It does make for interesting reading on a snowy Sunday morning, though.
One can only hope…….
It would make a great movie, if nothing else.
From q-anon’s lips to your ears, I guess. I am morbidly curious what the q-anon narrative becomes January 21st, though.
As tryvasty rummaged around in the back of his tighty whities looking for nuggets to throw in his chimp-like attack on the blog, he found Q-anon. Wow. I’d say he must be getting to the bottom of his poo pile, except for the historical evidence that he can and will just generate more.
A society that puts equality—in the sense of equality of outcome—ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality nor freedom. The use of force to achieve equality will destroy freedom, and the force, introduced for good purposes, will end up in the hands of people who use it to promote their own interests
Yet it is the allegedly “better educated” among us who can’t or don’t understand this, and advocate for imposing “equality” even in areas where it is simply impossible and not even desirable to achieve, impervious to the historical record of the failures and atrocities that have resulted from efforts like these.