Open Thread

I don’t actually trust Elon Musk. Maybe he’s a nice guy and that’s cool. If I ever hang out at places billionaires gather, I’ll let you know. Absent that, all I know about the guy is that he is a billionaire…a class not noted for their friendliness to, well, me. Donald Trump being one of the rare exceptions which prove the rule – and maybe Musk is another of those exceptions. But don’t go setting him up as some sort of icon. He appears to be committed to free speech and that is great – but he’s also decisively left of center in most of his views and we still might find that his idea of free speech isn’t the same as ours.

That said, the Meltdown of the Liberals when word came of Musk’s purchase of Twitter was glorious. The only event topping it was Trump’s 2016 win (and that event could only be topped by a 2024 win for Trump). It was hilarious for them to suddenly realize that they had set the standard at “private companies can do whatever they want”. They set that standard because they were confident that the private companies they cared about would always be run by their ideological allies. Now they’re rather caught in a bind – but, hypocrisy is their middle name so they’re already shifting over to demands to regulate social media.

Here’s some alleged audio of a Twitter meeting after the Musk news came out.

As it turns out, I am still in favor of regulation of social media. No matter the private aspect of their ownership, the bottom line is that social media is becoming the primary means whereby public debate is carried on. To me, if a platform does not ban all political/controversial speech, then it has voluntarily entered the public square and become part of it – and the public square is for all, especially those we hate the most.

In their renewed love of regulation on this, the Left hopes to ban “hate speech” and “misinformation”, which we know will amount to banning anyone who disagrees with the Left. To get out in front of it, we need a law (which may end up having to be an Amendment) along the lines of:

No free to use public media platform shall deny access to any person or entity who wishes to comment on matters of public controversy.

Nothing in this law shall be construed as permitting sexual indecency, slander, incitement to violence or the promotion of activities illegal under US law.

That pretty much covers it – though it can be refined as we like. But we dare not let anyone start to place into law anything related to the content of speech. Nothing about “hate speech” or “disinformation”. Because that is a slippery slope.

Democrats, ruthlessly exercising their State legislative power rammed through some of the most amazing Gerrymanders in history…all the while suing GOP States for far less offense. But, it looks like the Democrats went too far – in New York, their ridiculous map was tossed and the judges will find some people to draw new ones. Because Democrats are Democrats, you can expect this new map to still be favorable to Democrats…but not by the lopsided amount the rejected map had. Here’s a sample of how ridiculous the Democrat map was:

Zoom in on that a bit to see that in areas it literally goes down a street to connect parts of the district together. Democrats felt they had to do this to try to save their bacon in November…now, they won’t save as much. But, in the end, I don’t think it was really going to matter…they might be heading for such a blowout in November that all they’ll have accomplished was to lose seats they could have won, but they shifted too many Democrats out of them to try to shore up weaker seats.

Related: Pudding Brain’s approval is underwater in 40 States….in a poll historically Democrat-friendly.

30 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Cluster April 28, 2022 / 8:38 am

    The Ministry of Truth has come to America thanks to an emotionally incontinent voter base and an authoritarian ruling class. The timing is awfully strange too right?

    If the Left keeps pushing, this will end violently and I will be right in the middle of it.

    President Biden has set up a toothless ‘disinformation’ board headed-up by a woke so-called expert who’s against free speech and tried to pour cold water on the Hunter laptop scandal. Nina Jankowicz will head The Department of Homeland Security’s Disinformation Governance Board as executive director, Politico Playbook reported Wednesday morning. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandor Mayorkas did not disclose any powers that would be granted to the dystopian-sounding board while addressing lawmakers on Wednesday. He explained that the board would work to tackle disinformation ahead of the November midterms, particularly in Hispanic communities. But Mayorkas did say that the new board would come under the Biden-era Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships (CP3), meaning it would have no powers to crack down on disinformation and will instead try to combat it by throwing money at what it sees as problems.

    • Amazona April 28, 2022 / 10:14 am

      …ahead of the November midterms, particularly in Hispanic communities…

      ’nuff said. We can expect all kinds of shenanigans “ahead of the November midterms” aka Dem Armageddon aka Leftist chickens coming home to roost.

      But I don’t see violence looming. I’m not sure who would be violent against whom, unless maybe government brownshirts start burning newspaper offices or something. I guess I can see more Leftist riots “protesting” free speech, but that would be a risky tactic, as even most Libs are tired of rioting and right now the Left has to hope everyone forgets about THEIR riots as they portray the kerfluffle on January 6 as the most violent, vicious terrifying assault on democracy, our nation and human decency ever experienced in the history of mankind. I don’t think they’re going to want to remind people that they are the purveyors of violence and mayhem.

      • Cluster April 28, 2022 / 10:30 am

        I am curious as to how far conservatives can be pushed. Like Spook has said, I’m surprised they’ve kept their cool this long

      • Amazona April 29, 2022 / 12:51 pm

        It’s fun to watch the squirming of the Lefties when they finally get challenged, and we have some people who are really good at the challenging. Jim Jordan is recycling his old athletic competitiveness in Congress, and it is a thing of beauty. Senator Kennedy is a hoot, and dangerous as hell to Lefties who think that easy-going demeanor and Southern drawl mean he’s a pushover. Cruz has been pretty quiet lately, but when he puts on his cross-examining hat he’s a force of nature. Even the more mild-mannered Hawley and Cotton are proving themselves adept at backing Libs into corners.

      • Amazona May 1, 2022 / 4:54 pm

        I’m surprised they’ve kept their cool this long

        So am I, but I don’t think losing their cool is necessarily going to take a violent turn. OK, maybe it will, if you accept the Lefty whine that “words are violent”. If you accept that, then people like Jordan and Kennedy are serial killers and Gutfeld and Carlson aren’t much better, though they just talk about how stupid Lefties are instead of looking them in the eye and saying “you’re really dumb”.

        I’m loving the pushback, from Musk to DeSantis to some of the Congressional donkey-kickers.

        I’d still like to see Mitt on Tucker’s show being backed into a corner about his insane voting record, especially on this latest Supreme Court nominee. I think some on “our side” need the same no-holds-barred grilling the Biden nominees are getting. I don’t know who is going to run against Murkowski, especially now that Alaska has voted for a jungle primary, but she needs to have her feet held to a very hot fire. And I think Collins could be beat if her opponent were to focus on structure rather than personality. Maine is by nature kind of stubbornly independent, so ought to react badly to being sold out to a Central Authority enabler, if it were presented that way.

  2. Cluster April 28, 2022 / 8:57 am

    From the previous thread:

    … has so many people really focusing on politics all of a sudden. I think it is fertile ground and we should be taking advantage of it, sowing our own seeds of information.

    Politics is everywhere now; in the store, in the gym, on the plane, in the office, etc., etc. and the incompetence of Americas ruling class has now become so transparently obvious that it has negatively impacted all of our lives. We have spoken about this for years, but we are now at the precipice. This is a turning point for this country and you’re damn right that we need to insert ourselves and take advantage of this moment, or else the American experiment is over.

    And while Musk may not be the “conservative” we think him to be, he alone has changed the dynamic for the good, so I welcome him with open arms. And honestly, I think “converts” are better than “conservatives”. Joe Rogan “gets it” a hell of a lot more than some nameless Republican Senator, that I can assure you as does Elon Musk, and even someone like Naomi Wolfe. Amazona is also a convert and I trust her take on things a hell of a lot more than again, some nameless Republican Senator.

    This is a time when America first conservatives need to embrace people like Musk and Rogan to help us combat the daily litany of progressive incompetence and delusion. Truth be known, America first conservatives are the new liberals.

    • Amazona April 28, 2022 / 10:19 am

      I get the impression that in terms of official political allegiance Musk is a libertarian, but I’d bet if faced with the choice I have come up with he would say he supports the first option—-restriction of the size, scope and power of the federal government.

      I don’t understand why we don’t phrase our arguments like that—not because it is my own phrasing, but because it appeals to libertarians and those squishy “Independents” and “Moderates”. Stripping away the party affiliation aspect and getting down to the core concepts allows people to support those concepts, and then on their own gradually realize that this means voting for a certain party over the other, even if it does not always succeed in fully realizing the goal.

      • Retired Spook April 28, 2022 / 11:07 am

        I don’t understand why we don’t phrase our arguments like that

        The answer is pretty simple – because there are more big government types in the Republican Party than any of us wants to admit, and they are generally the ones who control which candidates get what party money. Fortunately, that’s starting to change.

  3. Cluster April 28, 2022 / 11:13 am

    So I am on Twitter now for the first time ever, thank you Elon, and I have to say I am seeing a lot of posts slamming the Biden administration from people I didn’t think would be that way. Particularly from the list of B list celebrities leading me to believe that Hollywood is not as WOKE as they want us to believe. I think the emotionally incontinent vocal minority has so dominated the public square in the last decade that many people believe they are the overwhelming majority. Well it turns out they are not, and unlocking Twitter will reveal this … and that is what terrifies Democrats.

  4. Cluster April 28, 2022 / 11:18 am

    How hard is it to frame Democrats as child molestors???

    ‘They’re all our children,’ Biden said Wednesday, addressing educators at the 2022 Teacher of the Year ceremony hosted by the White House. ‘They are not somebody’s else children. They’re like yours when they’re in the classroom.’

    They are NOT someone else’s children?? Do they belong to you Joe?? You f***king creep. This is a YUGE winning issue for Republicans if they would just stop being Democrat lap dogs.

    • Amazona April 29, 2022 / 12:56 pm

      Gutfeld addressed this last night in a typical take-no-prisoners segment.

      I think our campaigns should be broken up into chapters, because there is so much material we need to figure out how to use it all. I’d have one chapter—let’s say two weeks—on nothing but the attitude of the Left toward children. From sexualizing them at an early age to the attitude that they belong to the State (and I would start using the term “the State” over and over, to link it to the tyranny of the USSR, etc.) to the whole school board thing where parents are told outright that they have no right to even have opinions on how their children are taught to weaponizing of State agencies to attack and persecute parents who speak out. I would saturate every medium with in-depth attacks on every one of these issues.

      And then move on to another chapter, and focus exclusively on that for a week or so.

      • Cluster April 30, 2022 / 8:22 am

        I think our campaigns should be broken up into chapters,

        It’s become a rather large book hasn’t it?? LOL

  5. Retired Spook April 28, 2022 / 11:36 am

    Anyone surprised by this:

    Welp, it’s official now, I guess. Or maybe not. According to NPR, yesterday the public health team’s top insect Anthony Fauci spoke from one bodily orifice saying the country is now OUT of the pandemic phase, but on the SAME DAY he also emitted the exact opposite opinion. I know you can’t believe it, since Fauci’s been an icon of consistency so far. Anyway, the little weasel said it’s OVER on PBS NewsHour yesterday:

    “We are certainly right now in this country out of the pandemic phase,” Fauci said in an interview with PBS NewsHour. “Namely, we don’t have 900,000 new infections a day and tens and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths. We are at a low level right now. So if you’re saying, ‘Are we out of the pandemic phase in this country?’ — we are,” he said.

    Fauci actually gassed on about how over the pandemic is for almost a full minute, in fact.

    But then — on the SAME DAY — Fauci told an Associated Press reporter the EXACT OPPOSITE:

    “We are in a different moment of the pandemic,” he said. After a brutal winter surge, Fauci added, “we’ve now decelerated and transitioned into more of a controlled phase. By no means does that mean the pandemic is over.”

    So which is it? That right there is a mighty fine example of same-day narrative shifting. But what most amazes me is that a lot of people in this country will accept both Fauci’s statements, that “we are … out of the pandemic phase in this country” and also that “by no means does this mean the pandemic is over.” Somehow, some people can hold both thoughts in their minds simultaneously and be perfectly satisfied with that.

    It seems like George Orwell had some ideas about this mystical double-brain power, but I can’t remember it right now.,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/

    • Retired Spook April 28, 2022 / 12:38 pm

      Speaking of George Orwell.

      Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas testified Wednesday that the Department of Homeland Security is creating a “Disinformation Governance Board” (Ministry of Truth) to combat misinformation ahead of the 2022 midterms.

      • Mark Noonan April 28, 2022 / 8:54 pm

        They really aren’t hiding it – they want to control the debate.

        Bottom line is that if we don’t fully clean house – I’m talking at least hundreds of firings in the bureaucracy – when we get back in, then it has all been a waste of time. Consciously or not, our Establishment is shot through with people who were educated first or second hand from Marxists and they are tyrants.

      • Amazona April 29, 2022 / 12:45 pm

        As I just posted, the current interpretation of the Civil Service Act makes it nearly impossible to fire bureaucrats. However, Trump was quietly working kind of behind the scenes to trim this extra-Constitutional fourth branch of government, and I am convinced this is what made it imperative for the Left to get rid of him by any means.

        If he had been successful in his next four years in dismantling the bureaucracy, spreading the agencies around the country to get them out of the Beltway and slashing their budgets and staffing, the Left would have had to rebuild this foundation of their power.

        So I think the first step would have to be Congressional action to revise or even eliminate the Civil Service Act.

      • Cluster April 29, 2022 / 12:06 pm

        We need term limits for federal bureaucrats too

      • Amazona April 29, 2022 / 12:39 pm

        Or at the very least removal of the protections of the Civil Service Act. It was originally constructed to base civil service positions on merit —“Pendleton Civil Service Act, (Jan. 16, 1883), landmark U.S. legislation establishing the tradition and mechanism of permanent federal employment based on merit rather than on political party affiliation (the spoils system) but that has morphed into the inability to fire anyone for anything. Merit isn’t even now a requirement for appointment, as far as I can see. It has devolved into a spoils system on steroids, as now it is permanent political appointments, creating the de facto fourth branch of government that is responsible for so much of our misery.

      • Amazona April 29, 2022 / 12:58 pm

        Isn’t Mayorkas the creepiest little slug the Left has produced since Adam Schiff? Where the hell did they dig him up?

      • Cluster April 30, 2022 / 8:24 am

        I’ve been thinking the same thing. What an embarrassment he is, and how in the world did someone so unimpressive like him get to his position?? And this is what I mean by stupid people. This guy has failed upwards his entire life with the help of stupid people.

      • Amazona April 30, 2022 / 12:49 pm

        In the Dem race to the bottom, we can’t forget the lunatic who is in charge of the Ministry of Truth.

        Just look at the recent lineup of Dem appointees. Thanks to a couple of disgusting RINOs we got stuck with another checkmark justice, the first in my memory to actually admit before being confirmed that she doesn’t believe in the Constitution and thinks her emotions are the best guide for her judicial decisions. So now we have three prominent women in high offices solely because of their gender and ethnicity—-Sotomayor, Harris and Jackson. And all will prove to be ongoing embarrassments for whatever movement they represent.

        Look at Jim Jordan and John Kennedy eviscerating the latest efforts to continue dragging the country down.. They are taking no prisoners, and making it clear that not only are these people totally unqualified, it appears that they are the best the party has to offer.

        And I think they have given us a great campaign theme—“Think about it, these people are the best the Democrat Party has to offer” and then show Biden, Harris, Pelosi, the Squad, these last nominees and appointees, and of course Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney.

      • Amazona May 2, 2022 / 2:10 pm

        …all will prove to be ongoing embarrassments for whatever movement they represent…

        I wish/hope that over the next few years we will be bold enough to come right out and say this. I hope conservatives will say, right out loud, “Sotomayor is an embarrassment on the Supreme Court, appointed solely on the basis of her ethnicity and gender. She constantly proves that she is an intellectual lightweight and is a perfect example of what we get when we make serious decisions based on unserious criteria like gender or ethnicity or race.” Ditto for comments about Harris and Jackson. Would it embarrass them? So what? Why should it become our job to cushion the facts and shade the truth, because the truth might cause some hurt feelings?

      • Amazona May 3, 2022 / 2:10 pm

        Is it any surprise that Sotomayor is now implicated in the SCOTUS “leak”? An aide is the suspected culprit but I doubt that this happened without her knowledge and even participation. Surely sensitive documents aren’t just lying around where aides can pick them up and copy them.

        This is what happens when Identity trumps Ideology The ideology of the Court is that it is respected, its internal workings are protected and sacrosanct and that everything is held to the highest degree of confidentiality. Identity says that all that matters is an agenda.

        Even if she was not aware of or part of the leak, she definitely shows a lack of judgment

      • Cluster May 3, 2022 / 6:58 pm

        If the Court overturns Roe it simply goes back to the States for those State legislators to decide … you know that democracy thing Democrats bleat on about. What say you fielding?

  6. Retired Spook April 29, 2022 / 10:08 am

    The quarter to quarter drop in U.S. GDP from 6.9% to – 1.4% (that’s NEGATIVE 1.4%) doesn’t seem to be getting much play in the agenda media, I can’t imagine why not. Biden says growth is booming, so I guess they believe him.

    • Cluster April 29, 2022 / 12:07 pm

      Negative is the new positive

  7. Retired Spook April 30, 2022 / 12:01 pm

    I don’t actually trust Elon Musk.

    I “don’t actually trust” much of anyone or anything anymore. A good piece of advice my grandfather gave me when I was a teenager was “don’t believe everything you read, and not much of what you see or hear.” That was a bit over-the-top in the 1950s, but it’s appropos today. My grandfather couldn’t have imagined deep fakes, or evening news anchors deliberately lying to our faces on a regular asis. That said, and to echo what Amazona has said a number of times on this blog, I don’t care what someone’s position is on the issues of the day as long as he or she is in favor of a central government limited in size, scope and power.

    • Amazona April 30, 2022 / 12:35 pm

      I think I trust Musk to do what he thinks is right without concern for political agendas, which means I might not always agree with him but I don’t think he is a tool, or a manipulator. And I get the impression that since he has moved more into the public eye, and isn’t just a superstar for geeks, he has been beat up and bloodied and gotten a wider perspective. His first big statement was to move out of California, and that went well. Now he’s buying Twitter and that has got to be exhilarating. I love his response to AOC’s rant—“stop hitting on me, I’m very shy”.

      He’s having fun. DeSantis is having fun. Did you see the round table thing with him on Laura Ingraham? I missed all but the last few minutes, but it looked like it was great. It’s time for all of us to have fun, not take the loonies seriously and start making fun of them. We’re happy. They’re not. And that’s the way it should be. Let’s keep that going.

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