Open Thread

Sorry I haven’t been around, but the Chinese Bat Flu finally got me – felt my first symptoms on Saturday evening and tested positive on Monday morning. Basically, I’m ok – but it is a miserable cold. I seem to be pretty much past the fatigue/fever/ache part of it and am now in the cough/nasal congestion area – which is what I always hate the most about any cold. Anyways, not much inclination to write.

The leak of the supposed overturn of Roe is, in my mind, a desperate, last ditch attempt by Democrats to keep urban woman on board…as prices and shortages continue, there becomes less and less incentive for any Democrat constituency to show up in November and I guess they felt that it was slipping away so badly they needed to move on this now rather than wait for the decision to come in June.

And I think this leak is worse than a crime, it is an error. Democrats have been able to sustain a significant level of support for abortion by making sure nobody knows that Roe legalized it to the moment of birth. Poll after poll shows that solid majorities favor restrictions or bans on abortion after the first trimester. And, so, you never hear that talked about in the MSM…because the Democrats can’t afford to have people know that their abortion position is radical. Heck, the Alabama law in question only bans after 15 weeks…which makes it roughly line with France…hardly a hotbed of Christian fundamentalism (and in France you have to have two medical consults before the abortion is performed – which, to me, is still wrong, but it is at least reasonable).

Trump endorsed candidates swept the boards in Ohio…which shows the continuing power of Trump within the GOP. The sensible part of Never Trump (there really is such a thing) has been so desperately hoping that Trump was at last fading…but I’ve been pointing out to them that for a lot of people, the worse Team Pudding Brain gets, the more Trump will shine in hindsight. I really got under their skin a week or so ago by suggesting this will even most people to believe 2020 was stolen as nobody will want to admit they were suckered by the anti-Trump media op.

32 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Cluster May 5, 2022 / 9:11 am

    Re: Kari Lake, she was a long time local morning news anchor and left that high paying job because she couldn’t put up with the bullshit anymore. She is solid and has my vote.

    From the YCMTSU file, Jimmy Neutron on MSNBC in one segment called MAGA supporters as “dangerous extremists” and in the very next segment lamented the lack of civility when speaking of Dave Chapelle.

    And the POTUS just called us members of the most extremist group in this nations history. How do y’all feel about that? Should we keep our powder dry?

    • Retired Spook May 5, 2022 / 9:20 am

      How do y’all feel about that? Should we keep our powder dry?

      Yes, wet powder doesn’t explode, heh. When the time comes though, (and it’s coming), I’ll be able to shoot them with a clear conscience.

      • Cluster May 5, 2022 / 11:08 am

        We are in a very dangerous place in this country right now. I don’t trust the government, the health care industry, academia, and certainly the media and when all of them are calling half the population of this country as “dangerous extremists”, I see no way out of this other than violence. And I’m certainly ready. They had better STFU and do it real soon … but they won’t. They are the ones who want the fight.

      • Retired Spook May 5, 2022 / 12:37 pm

        They are the ones who want the fight.

        Easy to do in their pajamas behind a keyboard in their parents’ basement. In reality, the ultimate be-careful-what-you-wish-for.

      • jdge1 May 5, 2022 / 7:19 pm

        ” I see no way out of this other than violence.”

        It wasn’t all that long ago I was of a similar mindset, even with Amzona’s arguments (which are generally very persuasive) against it. All I saw was what seemed to be a significant number of leftist willing to engage in unbashful escalating violence and unlawful acts. Plus, those in charge of prosecuting the offenders were remiss in performing their sworn duties. With things like, a stolen presidential election, high likelihood of additional stolen elections (with their success in this area it’s become a floodgate of continuations), and considerable other criminal behaviors, it’s easy to be angry. To be fair, the left is not the only ones exercising this criminal behavior, but certainly the primary perpetrators of such offenses. The options to deal with this appear very limited and allowing them to continue making gains in shutting down basic freedoms encroaches a line that should never be crossed.

        So, what changed? The left has certainly not slowed down on their lawless behavior. First, I think the number of people who side with the left is likely quite a bit less than is generally perceived. And many of those are actually easily swayed puppets, not necessarily militant, hard-core leftist, but people who generally want to do what is right.

        Second, the left scrambling, digging a deeper hole. It appears to me their ship is taking on lots of water and starting to sink. Not sure if they will sink to the point of irrelevance for a lengthy time, but hopefully for enough time for intelligent people to set us back on a course of righteousness, safety and prosperity. I’m willing to let this play out, at least some.

        Third, with the left exposing their horrific agendas, I see minds changing. Not sure if anyone can say at this point the volume of changed minds and / or how long such a change will hold. Certain negative actions by the right would likely be generate fuel to be used against us by the left, and in effect hold great sway with those who are not sure where they should side.

        Forth, is sometimes hardest for me to swallow. If you asked most people, they would probably say they are generally good. However, when gauged by God’s yardstick, most of us would not measure up. There are times where I wish He would show His wrath and strike down all those who perpetrate the evil on their fellow human beings. Of course, I want to know I’m on the right side of this before it hits. Being human, that can be a challenge.

        I’d like to think I’m a good driver. When a different driver does something monumentally stupid that puts me and others around us in danger, anger erupts in me and where I wish that driver was caught by the police and severely punished. However, I too have on rare occasion made bad driving decisions that almost caused an accident. Easy to do when you’ve driven lots of miles in all kinds of traffic, all kinds of weather and all kinds of unknown roads, for nearly 50 years. When I make a mistake it’s my hope to be shown patients and understanding by those who where the recipient of my mistake. Kind of hard to ask to have it both ways when it suits me.

        God seeks all souls to turn to him. Some of us take longer to do it. Thankfully, He is patient and continues to help us in that direction. Likewise, there seems to be great merit in trying to pattern that behavior, especially when others have wronged us. Patients and understanding are what we seek and I think we’d gain quite a lot by showing it to others. That does not imply I have an endless supply of either.

        If I’m being honest, it seems like part of my desire for wrath to be shown to those I think deserve it, then what I’m seeking is vengeance, or at least a form of it. If me, or my family or anyone else within my purview is at risk of immediate danger, then it would certainly be rightful to act accordingly. And I think we can agree there is LOTS of ugly stuff going on behind the scenes that we’d like to act on, but don’t have the means to sort out the mess.

        Lately, I’ve been witnessing an ever increasing rate in God’s hand play out in dealing with the evil some people so willingly advance. The recent R v W situation is one such example. And this is monumental considering not too long ago this seems locked in cement. My faith in Him is greater than my desire (or ability) to act against these evil forces. His actions often occur in the most unlike places, with the most unlike people, with the most unlike situation. But they are undeniable none the less. That is, if you are open to see it. I believe there are greater advances to be made with prayer than the gun, even though I have several guns with a bit have difficult to acquire ammo. We know what the gun can do, but people all to often dismiss what God can do.

      • Amazona May 7, 2022 / 1:24 pm

        “I see no way out of this other than violence.”

        The thing about violence being effective is first knowing where and how to direct it. So who or what would be the target of effective violence?

        I keep seeing comments about how we are going to have to end up being violent, but never an idea of how or where to focus this violence.

        OK if someone is rioting and threatening my business or home, or a person, I know where violence can help. Defensive violence is pretty easy to identify as productive, but proactive violence? How would that work? Adopting the mentality of the Leftist mob and just going after Leftist politicians?

        Sorry, guys, but unfocused rage demanding some kind of violence is now the wheelhouse of the rabid Left, and I think it should stay there. They have Violence As Theater, they have Violence As Intimidation, but so far I haven’t seen any of it being productive. I see a lot of acting out, but nothing that achieves anything, at least not to their benefit.

        If it becomes necessary to form vigilante groups, like Curtis Sliwa’s Guardian Angels, that might be productive, but even that is reactive, responding to the violence of others.

        In what way would violence change the arc of American politics, other than the way it is slowly moving people away from the Left as it becomes more insane and scary?

        The only way I can see violence helping would be strong responses to riots and their ugly cousins, looting. In those cases I would like to see a more muscular approach. But that can’t happen as long as we have the “leaders” we have in the areas where such things are allowed, and violence won’t remove them from office.

      • Cluster May 8, 2022 / 9:26 am

        It will begin with a counter punch and escalate from there … the Left wants the war, we are just hesitant to start it. But it will start.

      • Amazona May 8, 2022 / 4:05 pm

        I still don’t understand who will do the fighting, or where.

      • Cluster May 10, 2022 / 1:05 pm

        I know

      • Amazona May 11, 2022 / 3:50 pm

        Do you?

        Instead of snark, why don’t you explain what you think will or might happen? Who would you shoot? Under what circumstances? These vague mutterings about violence somewhere somehow for some reason maybe but really really being up for it when it happens never manage to make the slightest bit of sense. Actually, they sound silly, in a Walter Mitty kind of way.

        Who’s going to start it? How? Where? When? Why? When/if someone starts some violent episode, what would YOU do about it? What kind of violence would call for a violent response? If a riot in some city becomes violent in a way and to a degree that you decide calls for a violent response, will you go to that city with your gun and mount a counter-attack? How would that work? Would you just march up to rioters and start shooting, or would you be part of a trained retaliatory force?

        Or do you expect some Left-wing militias to start organizing and moving on some communities, calling for a kind of siege mentality in the communities? Is that where you would start shooting? Sand bag your house and hunker down to pick off the bad guys? Set up a sniper nest on the roof? What kind(s) of weapon(s) do you have? How often do you shoot? Have you gotten professional training? How much ammo do you have? Do you have plans for various contingencies, other than just bragging about being ready to kick some ass?

        I know literally dozens of people who are competent with firearms who will stand up to whatever danger threatens them and theirs. They just maintain their weapons skills and then quietly pay attention. They don’t strut around blustering about how there’s gonna be violence and man am I ready for it! That’s why I take them seriously.

        I think it is very obvious, at this point, that any violence is likely to be the same organized Leftist riot kind, and while I think this should be met with violence I also understand that in the climate of our big cities anyone shooting these thugs down will be treated like George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse. so unless there is a solid plan of attacking them and then getting away unrecognized it is foolish to posture about engaging in that kind of violence. Personally, I’d love to see the whole mangy crew lined up on the pavement like the body count after a Texas hog hunt, but it’s not going to happen.

        I keep a pretty close eye on things and I don’t see a government force forming up to attack us in any kind of organized violent way. If that happens, I can guaran-damn-tee you it would quickly and decisively be met with an opposing force of competent and motivated shooters.

        I get it—it’s a scary time. The Left deals with it by looking for big scary words to describe their fears and fury, words like “insurrection” and many on the Right just brag about how they are ready to draw down when the excrement hits the ventilator, but with no clear idea of how to shoot, who to shoot, when to shoot and probably not even why to shoot. These are coping mechanisms, and neither one is very productive.

        So I mention that “I still don’t understand who will do the fighting, or where” and instead of an answer I get a fielding-kind of titter and snark that I think is supposed to imply that I ask this question because I am clueless. Well, I AM clueless, because I have no idea what you are going on about, other than some chest-thumping braggadocio about some vague conflict that might happen some day. And evidently so are you, given your inability to answer my question.

      • Cluster May 11, 2022 / 9:51 pm

        It’s usually organic and spontaneous and can start with a single incident in a random place. That’s as vague as I can get but it’s on the cusp. Don’t have any doubts about that.

      • Cluster May 11, 2022 / 9:56 pm

        And of course I’m thinking the Biden administration is doing all it can to provoke a violent outburst so they can further justify oppression of MAGA supporters. You know the extremists. And that’s when it would get really interesting

      • Retired Spook May 8, 2022 / 9:45 am

        the Left wants the war, we are just hesitant to start it. But it will start.

        You really don’t want to be the one that starts a war, as historically those who start wars tend to lose. Who finishes it is more important than who starts it, and I’d bet on the side that has most of the guns. Sorry Libs, that ain’t you.

      • Amazona May 13, 2022 / 11:11 am

        I get that, and I have no problem with it. I’ve been pretty clear for years now about my belief that the violence created by Leftist rioters should be met with at least equal violence. I once had a conversation with a police training officer about claims of police brutality, and I said I thought brutality was often the only rational response. He said his training was always to go the same level of violence the criminal exhibited, and then up one level.

        That’s a little restrained for my taste, but it seems to make sense.

        How would I have felt if 100 armed people from Kenosha had shown up at the first riot, surrounded the rioters, and let fly? Honestly, I would have cheered. I would have cheered at every level, from frozen paint balls to real bullets. My attitude is that there are rules, and once someone abandons the rules and becomes a predator then there are no rules for whoever has to deal with him.

        I have often advocated restrained violence, like non-lethal containment, and on-the-spot punishment like soaking rioters in permanent skunk juice, ruining clothes and making people persona non grata until it wears off. So it’s not that I am a wussy pacifist. It’s just that responsible gun ownership demands knowing when you are willing to shoot, who you are willing to shoot, why and under what circumstances, because when things blow up there is no time to go through those calculations.

  2. Retired Spook May 5, 2022 / 9:57 am

    An observation, just to show the low level of intelligence of people who identify as Democrats. They seem to think that forgiving student loan debt will get more people to vote for them in November. People who have large student loan debt are generally the kind of people who vote Democrat anyway. A large percentage of the people who DON’T have student loan debt, but will be asked to subsidize the forgiveness of that debt USED to vote Democrat. It’s not hard to imagine that many of them won’t in November.

    • Mark Noonan May 5, 2022 / 2:51 pm

      And the easy – and true – GOP riposte is that student debt forgiveness is working class Jose being taxed to pay for upper class Ashley’s college education.

      Now, I still believe we should annul the student debt – but as I’ve also always said, only as part of eliminating student loans completely and shoving half the unpaid debt back on to the colleges where the loans were used.

      • Cluster May 5, 2022 / 2:55 pm

        How much student debt pertains to graduate students? And why are their degrees worthless? If anyone pays off student debt, it should be the colleges, not the tax payers

      • Amazona May 5, 2022 / 6:18 pm

        No, I think if it is important to society and the economy to forgive student debt then the schools themselves have to write it off their books. Why should they get to keep the money they got for useless and highly overpriced classes and degrees? If they are a functioning part of society then let them do their job and write off this debt.

    • Mark Noonan May 5, 2022 / 2:49 pm

      Saw that – absolutely devastating for Cortez-Masto and shows that the winds have shifted in Nevada towards the GOP. There is still the Reid Machine – and Cortez-Masto is Reid’s hand-picked successor, so nothing is in the bag. OTOH, Cortez-Masto simply hasn’t done the work to keep the Reid Machine going. Say what you want about Reid, but he got out there and met with people, found out what they wanted, glad handed, did favors…you know, worked the system. Cortez-Masto has been a complete cipher…I doubt that even 60% of the electorate even knows she’s our Senator.

    • jdge1 May 5, 2022 / 7:22 pm

      Cute, in a sort of deranges sort of way.

  3. Amazona May 5, 2022 / 6:22 pm

    Former scientific adviser to Michael Caputo, then-assistant secretary for public affairs at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Dr. Paul Alexander said he once had a discussion with some State Department officials about Trump.

    “They told me in no uncertain terms that ‘Trump is only a visitor here. He doesn’t seem to understand we run things.’”

    “‘We the bureaucracy, we the deep state that you call the deep state pal, yes, we run things here. The president just visits here. He’ll be gone. We’ll be here,’” Alexander recalled.

    “That’s how they think. And that is the crux of the matter.”

    He talked about the cabal of NIH, the CDC and the media colluding to undermine President Trump and guarantee what could be presented to the public as failure on his part, in dealing with the Covid outbreak.

    Good article.

  4. Cluster May 7, 2022 / 8:49 am

    While MSNBC obsesses’s about a womans right to kill their unborn children, Putin is rolling nukes through the red square, and food shortages are hitting our country.

    Thanks Democrats.

  5. Retired Spook May 7, 2022 / 11:29 am

    We’ve all kind of known this since early in the pandemic, as soon as it was made public the ginormous difference between the particle size of the COVID 19 virus and the size of the pores in most commercially available masks. Another one of those truths that could get you canceled from social media.


    Mask mandates were implemented in almost all world countries and in most places where masks were not obligatory, their use in public spaces was recommended [12]. Accordingly, the World Health Organization (WHO) as well as other public institutions, such as the IHME, from which the data on mask compliance used in this study were obtained, strongly recommend the use of masks as a tool to curb COVID-19 transmission [8,13]. These mandates and recommendations took place despite the fact that most randomised controlled trials carried out before and during the COVID-19 pandemic concluded that the role of masks in preventing respiratory viral transmission was small, null, or inconclusive [1,2,14,15]. Conversely, ecological studies, performed during the first months of the pandemic, comparing countries, states, and provinces before and after the implementation of mask mandates almost unanimously concluded that masks reduced COVID-19 propagation [3-7,16]. However, mask mandates were normally implemented after the peak of COVID-19 cases in the first wave, which might have given the impression that the drop in the number of cases was caused by the increment in mask usage. For instance, the peak of cases in Germany’s first wave occurred in the first week of April 2020, while masks became mandatory in all of Germany’s federal states between the 20th and 29th of April [5], at a time when the propagation of COVID-19 was already declining. Furthermore, the mask mandate was still in place in the subsequent autumn-winter wave of 2020-2021, but it did not help preventing the outburst of cases and deaths in Germany that was several-fold more severe than in the first wave (Figure 2).

    The findings presented in this short communication suggest that countries with high levels of mask compliance did not perform better than those with low mask usage in the six-month period that encompassed the second European wave of COVID-19. It could be argued that some confounding factors could have influenced these results. One of these factors could have been different vaccination rates among the studied countries. However, this is unlikely given the fact that at the end of the period analysed in this study (31th March 2021), vaccination rollout was still at its beginning, with only three countries displaying vaccination rates higher than 20%: the UK (48%), Serbia (35%), and Hungary (30%), with all doses counted individually [9]. It could also be claimed that the rise in infection levels prompted mask usage resulting in higher levels of masking in countries with already higher transmission rates. While this assertion is certainly true for some countries, several others with high infection rates, such as France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, and Spain had strict mask mandates in place since the first semester of 2020. In addition, during the six-month period covered by this study, all countries underwent a peak in COVID-19 infections (Figures 1, 2), thus all of them endured similar pressures that might have potentially influenced the level of mask usage.


    While no cause-effect conclusions could be inferred from this observational analysis, the lack of negative correlations between mask usage and COVID-19 cases and deaths suggest that the widespread use of masks at a time when an effective intervention was most needed, i.e., during the strong 2020-2021 autumn-winter peak, was not able to reduce COVID-19 transmission. Moreover, the moderate positive correlation between mask usage and deaths in Western Europe also suggests that the universal use of masks may have had harmful unintended consequences. (emphasis – mine)

  6. Cluster May 8, 2022 / 9:07 am

    Just marinate in the stupidity of this headline for a little bit this morning. This is the level of intellect we are up against

    ‘You don’t care if people die’: Pro-abortion protestors target homes of Justices Kavanaugh and Roberts after White House failed to deter them

  7. Cluster May 11, 2022 / 1:06 pm

    How y’all doing this morning as we face the real prospect of nuclear war for the first time in my lifetime. And just a reminder, the ruling class just sent another $40B to Ukraine while American toddlers go hungry. Good times, but let’s not get too worked up. Wouldn’t want their to be any disruptions. Might make us look bad.

    • Retired Spook May 11, 2022 / 3:43 pm

      Nuclear schmuclear. Duck and cover my friend. FEMA has recently issued new guidance that might be of help:

      The Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, has issued updated guidance to its “Nuclear Explosion” readiness public awareness website, which includes tips to avoid Covid!

      FEMA recommends the following steps to prevent ‘significant radiation exposure,’ which include “Try to maintain a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who are not part of your household,” and “If possible, wear a mask if you’re sheltering with people who are not part of your household.

      What’s more, “If you are experiencing a medical emergency, call 9-1-1 and let the operator know if you have, or think you might have, Covid-19. If you can, put on a mask before help arrives.”
      “Many people already feel fear and anxiety about the coronavirus 2019 (COVID-19). The threat of nuclear explosion can add additional stress.”

      • Amazona May 11, 2022 / 3:54 pm

        Sorry, but after my experience of a few weeks ago, when I saw a man lying on the side of the interstate in downtown Denver and couldn’t get an answer to my repeated 911 calls I have zero confidence in getting any help from any 911 call. After reading this I just added FEMA to the every-growing list of government agencies I now distrust.

        Does this really imply that radiation is a greater risk to people closer to each other than six feet? My favorite part is the acknowledgement that even to people still wallowing in Covid Panic, “The threat of nuclear explosion can add additional stress.”

        Do ya think?

      • Retired Spook May 11, 2022 / 4:00 pm

        “The threat of nuclear explosion can add additional stress.”

        The sad thing is that our tax dollars paid someone to write that.

      • Amazona May 11, 2022 / 6:46 pm

        The sadder thing is that it made sense to whoever wrote it and whoever approved it

        Although, to be fair, it IS true…….

      • Cluster May 11, 2022 / 9:52 pm

        From the YCMTSU file. Lol

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