I Forgive Your Debts Open Thread (All Praise to Our Magic Wand!)

How well is Pudding Brain’s student loan scam going over? Well, three endangered Democrat Senators have already come out against it – including Cortez-Masto here in Nevada, who is already being roasted by GOP candidate Adam Laxalt about it.

I really can’t think of a more maladroit move in recent years – 10k is a pittance, most of it is going to go to the rich, the action is probably not legal and so may be reversed in court after a bunch of people think they’ve skated on debt. Nobody really likes this other than Social Media bot accounts paid to praise whatever it is that Democrats are doing (they’ve all gone silent on praising the raid on Trump’s home, if you want to know how that went over with the public). You might think that they should have gone through Congress but that 3 Democrat Senators have already condemned it shows how that would fare – especially as House Democrats likely wouldn’t vote for anything less than 100% cancellation. It is also so clearly and easily seen as a cynical, political ploy with the mid-terms in mind.

But, also, pay attention to what Cortez-Masto and other Democrats are doing. Remember – and you’ve heard some liberal commenters here say it – the Narrative is that Joe “Shades” Biden has masterfully turned things around. Pivoting from the GOP’s disastrous end of Roe, he’s now got “big legislative wins” which are building towards a remarkably strong Democrat showing in November. And NY-19 proved it! Don’t know if you followed the Social Media meltdown on that one last night…but it was where a Democrat district shifted 9 points to the GOP but the Democrat still won, so this means the GOP is doomed – DOOMED, I TELL YA!!!! – in November. But, meanwhile, there’s not a Democrat out there who wants Pudding Brain on the campaign trail with them (though in Florida the Democrats are in full Kamikaze Mode and may invite him down to seal the deal of a 15 point plus GOP win)…and out here in Nevada’s 4th District, the Democrat is running working class hero ads where he doesn’t mention that he’s a Democrat and, funny, isn’t touting Biden’s “big legislative wins” nor making any promise to restore Roe.

Two rules about politics in 2022:

  1. Whatever is in the MSM is a lie.
  2. Never look at what people say: watch what they do.

Meanwhile: actual harbinger – the GOP flipped school boards all over Florida yesterday. A lot of school boards. This is where the pushback actually starts. We’re winning school boards and county commissions. No longer will we allow hard Leftists to rule these incredibly powerful institutions under the guise of being “non-partisan”. They are partisan – and we’re taking them back.

California will ban new sales of gasoline powered cars by 2035. This is supposed to set the trend for the end of the internal combustion engine…but as California’s population is collapsing (some estimates are that they screwed with the Census numbers pretty badly and that CA should have lost 3 rather than 1 House seat) and this will merely accelerate that trend, I don’t think this will be a trendsetter. The bottom line is that the internal combustion engine works. It is vastly more efficient and durable than it has ever been and we can get even more miles for even less gasoline out of it. Until electric cars cost no more than 5% more than non-electric, can go 350 miles on a charge costing no more than a tank of gas and take no more than ten minutes to recharge, they simply can’t replace internal combustion and all efforts to force the pace will end in disaster.

94 thoughts on “I Forgive Your Debts Open Thread (All Praise to Our Magic Wand!)

  1. casper3031 August 24, 2022 / 11:07 pm

    In the long run, I think loan forgiveness will be a winner for the Democrats. Republicans never have a problem forgiving loans for the rich, so it makes a nice change.
    Biden’s poll numbers are still low, but have been on a steady upswing for the last month. Be interesting to see if that continues.
    Gas prices are dropping Biden and the Democrats continue to get things done. Couple that with the anger over Roe being overturned and things are looking better for the midterms every day.
    Meanwhile, Republicans are spending a lot of energy defending Trump taking off with a lot of classified documents which makes it a lot harder for them to attack Biden. Then there are the Jan 6 hearings coming up again in the fall.
    I’m guessing the Democrats end up with 53 Senate seats and 220 seats in the house.

    • Amazona August 24, 2022 / 11:58 pm

      What happy fantasies

    • Retired Spook August 25, 2022 / 10:19 am

      The problem with predictions, Casper, especially political predictions, is that eventually they either come true or they don’t. And, unlike climate predictions of 10 years to save the planet, we only have to wait 75 days on yours.

      • Retired Spook August 25, 2022 / 12:34 pm

        BTW, we’re getting close to our 5th decade of predicting that climate change is such an existential threat that we only have 10 years left to save the planet.

      • casper3031 August 25, 2022 / 1:25 pm

        You are correct in that we will know if I’m right in 75 days. As for climate change, I guess you missed the record temperatures, wildfires, flooding, and droughts that have been going on the last couple of years. We have even had some drought and wildfires here in Hawaii.

      • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 4:08 pm

        “record” temperatures

        Since when? The thing is, these people act on small snapshots of very limited periods of time. When did we start recording temperatures? Weren’t there really long periods of time when fossil records indicate that the earth was a lot warmer than it is now?

        And then there were the Ice Ages; small and large. You can’t emerge from an Ice Age without getting warmer. It’s like a rule or something. You’d think a teacher would know this.

        We are probably approaching a new Ice Age as we move farther from that giant blast furnace in the sky. which will mean, if history is right, shorter life spans, less food and more use of natural resources to survive. In other words, yearning for a new warming period to begin.

        When Spook asked what is the “right” temperature of the earth, that led me to wonder if we are just approaching it, and a few more degrees of warming might get us there.

      • Mark Noonan August 25, 2022 / 9:41 pm

        Your problem remains – you consume and believe the MSM. If you would stop – I mean really stop – for even a week, your entire worldview would start to shift. Not saying you’d go Conservative, but even if you remained liberal, you’d become one of the liberals (and I do know some) who are just as convinced as we righties are of the fundamental dishonesty of the system.

        Take, for instance, your views on climate change – the MSM puts up a map of the “Killer Heat Wave” which was previously known as summer…its all red and scary (and they probably have some dramatic music…and then an Expert). But in non-MSM outfits, they dig back a bit and find the very same broadcasts using the very same maps from ten years previously and even hotter temperatures are…treated as nothing special. Some people really dig back and get to the library and pull up century old news reports on hot weather…with recorded temperatures as high or higher than the “We’re all gonna DIE!!!!” heat of today. They count on you not having a memory…and never turning off the TV to go check. And for your like, it works. Because you won’t turn off the TV.

        Seriously, Casper, do it. One week, no TV; no MSM news sites…nothing Establishment. And then get back to us.

      • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 10:26 pm

        My theory is that most of these people have what amounts to an addiction to whatever endorphins are released in feeling outrage and resentment toward an “other” even if it is an Invented Other, as the Right is for these people. You’ve got the rush of adrenalin from the surge of outrage or anger or hate, and then you’ve got the smug self-satisfaction of the conviction of being morally superior/smarter. It’s hard to walk away from all that.

        I see a similar emotional content in the incessant claims that to us Trump is a “god” or that we “worship” him and so on. This is much easier for them to deal with than admitting that we simply look objectively at what we want a president to do, and he’s the only one who ever did it. That would be painful for them to acknowledge, so they fall back on the fantasy that (1) we are as emotion-driven as they are and (2) that the difference is their guy deserves it and ours doesn’t.

      • Retired Spook August 25, 2022 / 1:42 pm

        Why would you move somewhere where they have drought and wildfires?

      • casper3031 August 25, 2022 / 1:49 pm

        WE have the drought and wildfires on the other side of the island. I get a lot of rain where I’m at.

      • Retired Spook August 25, 2022 / 1:53 pm

        So you’re in a confined space where they have drought, wildfires and a lot of rain. Sounds wonderful.

      • casper3031 August 25, 2022 / 2:02 pm

        It’s also surrounded by water which moderates temperature extremes. Best climate in the world.

      • Cluster August 25, 2022 / 3:16 pm

        Sounds like the climate is working just like it should in Hawaii. Amazing how that happens.

      • casper3031 August 25, 2022 / 11:03 pm

        I don’t have cable nor do I use mainstream MSM sites. I read articles from numerous sources, both progressive and conservative. But that’s not what has convinced me the most. I travel. I’ve been around South America twice. I’ve traveled up and down the Alaska coast. I’ve spent time in the Northwest Territories in Canada. Glaciers are retreating. Bison are moving North in Canada. The tundra in the North is melting and they are getting record temperatures and flooding.
        In addition, I talk to people from all over the world. Record temperatures everywhere.
        You should be seeing it locally. How is Lake Mead doing?
        I also read old weather reports and the history of different places. Climate is changing and it’s happening all over the world. it isn’t a fast process, but it is happening.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 1:58 pm

        Climate is changing and it’s happening all over the world. it isn’t a fast process, but it is happening.

        As it always has, and always will. Fossil records show us eras of drought, of cold, of heat. Looking at climate history through a straw, as climate alarmists do, reduces the field of vision to a miniscule arc in the planet’s history. But that’s enough to suck in a lot of people.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 4:22 pm

        More than 1,100 scientists and professionals worldwide have signed a World Climate Declaration (WCD) stating that there is no climate emergency.

        The independent foundation Climate Intelligence (CLINTEL) issued the one-page summary on June 27, 2022, garnering 1,152 total signatures in 15 countries as of Aug. 23.

        “Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming.”

        At the same time, “politicians should dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their policy measures,” the declaration states.

      • Retired Spook August 26, 2022 / 11:40 am

        Well, you should be safe with the world’s largest moat.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 11:00 pm

        In other words your “experts” say these scientists aren’t really scientists at all. Or at least not the kind of scientist they choose to recognize. I chose not to sign up for your “climate news” but I could read enough of the article to get the point.

        You are the target audience for climate panic, and you are doing your part very well.

        It is increasingly clear that much if not most of the reaction to skepticism of climate panic is defense of positions not concern for the planet.

      • casper3031 August 26, 2022 / 11:24 pm

        “In other words your “experts” say these scientists aren’t really scientists at all. I chose not to sign up for your “climate news” but I could read enough of the article to get the point.”

        That’s not what it said. Many of those that signed the declaration are scientists, they just aren’t climate scientists. A geologist probably has the same amount credibility commenting on climate change as he would commenting on the reproduction of frogs. In addition, CLINTEL is heavily financed by the oil and gas industry. The article also mentions that the actual climate scientists are pretty sure at this point that climate change is happening.

        Climate change is happening. Whether you want to believe it’s a natural occurrence, or caused by man, it’s happening. You might want to reconsider moving to Florida as the highest point in the state is only 300 feet above sea level. Personally, I’m in pretty good shape. I’m about to install solar panels and I plan on getting a electric vehicle in the next couple of years.

    • Cluster August 25, 2022 / 12:55 pm

      “We’re on the 5th decade of only 10 years to live” – ROFLMAO

    • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 12:55 pm

      BTW, those loans are not being “forgiven”—they are just being transferred to people who didn’t sign contracts to repay them

  2. Cluster August 25, 2022 / 8:53 am

    Tucker detailed last night that approx. 32% of Americans went to college, fewer of those have degrees, and just 16% of those who have degrees, have advanced degrees and they hold 56% of all student debt. So the vast majority of this relief will be going to those who hold advanced degrees and most likely making well over $100K a year. Not exactly a program to help the “working class”. Also, what most rational Americans are thinking (aside from the indoctrinated Casper) is why do all these people have worthless degrees?? And what culpability should the universities have? This is just another massive bail out for Democrat donors in big education and allows them to continue the scam. Zero accountability.

    The only anger I see about Roe is from liberal women who honestly have very little reason to worry about getting pregnant.

    FJB encouraged the DOJ to raid his political opponents homes and we’re all suppose to pretend that that’s ok. The good news is, rational Americans know that it is not ok, and is antithetical to who we are as Americans, and Trump will use this to destroy the demented piece of shit in the WH when the time is right.

    All voters in Manhattan are obviously misogynist for not voting for Maloney. LMAO.

    The southern border continues to be open drug and rape markets, thanks to Biden voters.

    January 6 was an FBI and DNC led effort.

    Ukraine is an ATM machine for the world elite and particularly for the Democrat Party.

    NOTHING in this country is going well. We are either witnessing the last gasps of a dying empire, or the last gasps of a dying authoritarian regime. Let’s make it the latter.

    • Retired Spook August 25, 2022 / 10:16 am

      The only anger I see about Roe is from liberal women who honestly have very little reason to worry about getting pregnant.

      They’re also all likely to vote Democrat, so not much of a swing.

      All voters in Manhattan are obviously misogynist for not voting for Maloney. LMAO.

      What does that say about Maloney that she lost to the Wadler — by 30%?

  3. Retired Spook August 25, 2022 / 11:12 am

    How well is Pudding Brain’s student loan scam going over? Well, three endangered Democrat Senators have already come out against it – including Cortez-Masto here in Nevada, who is already being roasted by GOP candidate Adam Laxalt about it. I really can’t think of a more maladroit move in recent years

    I believe in giving credit where credit is due.


    August 24, 2022 / 3:34 pm

    The red wave may have peaked a bit too soon. I still think the GOP takes the house. Still lots of time. Brandon could fuck something else up right?

    Very prescient, Fielding.

    • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 11:37 am

      “COULD” ????

  4. Amazona August 25, 2022 / 11:48 am

    Per the newest Morning Consult’s annual State of the Parties survey, 73 percent of voters view the Democratic Party as liberal, increasing from 67 percent in mid-2017. Seventy percent of voters with college degrees view the Democratic Party as liberal compared to 62 percent in mid-2017. Hispanic voters went from 65 percent to 75 percent who view the Democratic Party as liberal.

    In the recent survey, 42 percent of voters said that the Republican Party is “too conservative,” compared to 36 percent saying the party was too conservative in 2017. Forty-five percent of those surveyed said the Democratic Party is “too liberal,” up from 40 percent in 2017.

    The highlighted portion is due to conservatives allowing all sorts of social and cultural elements to be added to the word “conservative”. It’s also due to the use of the invented term “far-right”, which is used to define radical groups whose true identity has little or nothing to do with conservative politics.

    It’s time for the Right to get aggressive in defining itself, in purely political terms—that is, to describe our blueprint for how we think the nation should be governed.

    The Left IS a mishmash of cultural and social elements, but that’s because those are the lures that draw in its supporters. These people have no idea of the political structure they enable and support. They can’t define it, they can’t describe it, and they can’t defend it. They are on the Left because of its promise that it is the short cut to the Higher Moral Ground, and they are attracted to its permission to unleash the negative aspects of character that society has rejected for centuries. The Left has turned politics into a competition for the most hateful, the most insulting, and the most inclined to use dishonesty to land a blow on the Invented Other created as a foil for their nastiness. The Left has trivialized politics, turning it into (for its supporters) a malignant game of Spite and Malice.

    I am convinced if we were to have a campaign of actual, accurate, definitions of the POLITICAL structures and agendas of “conservative” and “liberal” those numbers would change dramatically.

    • Cluster August 25, 2022 / 12:07 pm

      IF we had an honest media, that practiced real journalism, this country would be an entirely different country. Corporate propaganda media is the biggest threat to our Republic. (And we’re not a F*****ING democracy)

  5. Cluster August 25, 2022 / 12:37 pm

    This is how mind numbingly stupid Democrats have become:

    CNN Medical Analyst Who Wanted To Ban The Unvaccinated From Society And Force Children To Mask Now Reveals How Masking Has Severely Harmed Her Son

    Dr. Leah Wen was on MSNBC everyday for two years lecturing everyone on wearing masks and getting vaccines without ever mentioning possible negative effects. This is what unexamined moral superiority does to people.


    • Retired Spook August 25, 2022 / 2:13 pm

      Karma’s a bitch!

    • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 4:12 pm

      I’m waiting for the lawsuits to start piling up, as vaccine-injured people sue the companies, and even governments, that forced them to inject experimental drugs that were also dangerous.

      And, of course, an investigation to see if the Big Guy was getting any kind of kickbacks from those drug companies he was providing cover for by pushing their dangerous drugs on people through the might and power of an oppressive Central Authority while at the same time providing legal cover for them to protect them from liability for damages from the drugs. Corruption? Arrogance? Stupidity? Hey. it’s Joe Biden—no need to choose.

      • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 4:23 pm

        Related topic from “Who Is Robert Malone?

        Most Americans have long assumed that they have a fundamental right to make decisions about their own bodily health and the medical treatments they receive. Informed consent is the ethical and legal principle by which that fundamental right is enforceable. To be able to give informed consent a person needs to be informed about the risks and benefits of, and alternatives to the proposed treatment.

        The fundamental right to informed consent is particularly important with respect to the COVID-19 vaccines which are available in the United States pursuant to Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs). Under the federal EUA statute, people are entitled to be informed about their right to accept or refuse administration of these vaccines, the consequences (if any) of refusing vaccination, and the benefits and risks of alternatives to the vaccines. The manufacturers of EUA vaccines, and the people and organizations administering them, are immune from liability suits. People who suffer severe adverse effects after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine will not be able to recover compensation, for their monetary and emotional distress damages, from the vaccine manufacturers or from the people who vaccinated them. Similarly, the family members of people who die after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine will not be able to recover compensation for their loss.

  6. jdge1 August 25, 2022 / 2:38 pm

    As Amazona so eloquently stated in a post on the previous thread, our own government is becoming a weapon against its citizens and being used as a political tool to squash, censor or eliminate opposition.

    FBI Investigates Millions of Americans Without Warrants

    The 2022 annual transparency report by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) reveals the FBI has been surveilling millions of American citizens — without warrants or proper cause

    • Between December 2020 and November 2021, the FBI scoured private emails, texts and other electronic communications of 3.4 million U.S. residents, without obtaining a single warrant. Between December 2019 and November 2020, just under 1.3 million Americans were surveilled in this manner

    • There’s also been a sharp uptick in the number of times government officials asked for the identity of individuals surveilled to be revealed, a practice known as “unmasking”

    • Supposedly, FBI agents were looking for signs of potential terrorist activity. They also sought to prevent hacking attacks. In the process, they violated the constitutional privacy rights of millions, and considering the hacking attacks that have occurred anyway, this mass surveillance doesn’t seem to be achieving its stated aim

    • Two attorneys and two journalists are suing former CIA director Mike Pompeo in Spanish High Court for illegally surveilling them and copying private data from their electronic devices and passports while they were visiting Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy. The agency is also listed as a defendant, for purposes of forcing them to expunge all collected records

    I’m sure the extend of illegal actions and intrusion into our lives is happening far more than most people realize. When any government agency cannot be trusted with its core stated reasons for existence and funding, then that institution needs a major overhaul or total revocation of authority and status.

    • Cluster August 25, 2022 / 3:27 pm

      We’re becoming a surveillance security state thanks to technology, and I would advise to limit your use of technology. Don’t use ring doorbells, or interior cameras, or irobot vacuums, etc. These devices can and will be turned against you whenever they want. I was reading an article today where Amazon is wanting to buy the irobot vacuums to map your home floor plan – that’s so the police know where to go to apprehend you. NO BUENO

      • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 3:49 pm

        And it’s not just surveillance. Who ever thought the EPA would need to be militarized?

        In July 2021, armed and body-armored agents showed up, unannounced, at the Lund Racing auto-tuning shop in West Chester, Pennsylvania. Other shops throughout the country were also raided and fined for failure to follow regulations so fickle and unclear that Congress had to pass the RPM Act to protect competition vehicles from the EPA’s wrath. This comes despite the fact that race cars are already exempt from the Clean Air Act.

        Why do agencies like the IRS, the Social Security Administration and the Department of Agriculture need to buy tens (or hundreds) of thousands of rounds of ammunition?

        Combine illegal surveillance with armed squads wearing body armor “enforcing” non violent crimes like alleged polluting, add a totally politicized law enforcement system and judicial system, and we are farther down the rabbit hole than we thought.

        A muscular president and congress could turn this around, but that’s a big “IF”. I’m not too worried about the president part of this, but as for a muscular Congress, well, that’s a bigger ask.

      • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 4:00 pm

        Reading about the armed raid for polluting reminded me of the classic “Alice’s Restaurant” and the tale of littering.

        when we got to the “Scene of the Crime” there was five police officers and three police cars, being the biggest crime of the last fifty years, and everybody wanted to get in the newspaper story about it. And they was using up all kinds of cop equipment that they had hanging around the police officer’s station; they was taking plaster tire tracks, foot prints, dog smelling prints, and they took twenty-seven eight-by-ten color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence against us. Took pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner, the southwest corner and that’s not to mention the aerial photography

        And later, at the draft office, after admitting to having been in court, was told to go sit on a bench with Group W. Group W’s where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after committing your special crime. And there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there. Mother-rapers. Father-stabbers. Father-rapers! Father-rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the bench. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest father-raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean and ugly and nasty and horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me and said, “Kid, what did you get?” I said, “I didn’t get nothing, I had to pay $50 and have me pick up the garbage.” He said, “What were you arrested for, kid?” and I said, “Littering.”

        And they all moved away from me on the bench there

      • Cluster August 25, 2022 / 5:08 pm

        Alice’s Restaurant. My absolute favorite.

      • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 4:29 pm

        Wearing body armor to raid an auto-tuning shop makes me think they saw the movie “Dodgeball” or at least the trailer, which had one of the funniest lines I have ever heard. (Not enough to make me see the movie, but still….)

        The organizer, in the tryout for the team, threw a wrench at one of the guys, with the comment “If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball”. Looks like the tryouts for the EPA SWAT team couldn’t find anyone who could dodge a wrench, so they had to go with body armor.

      • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 4:37 pm

        One of the elements of fascism that the rabid Left uses to try to link fascism with the Right is its alliance of government and business. (Their “thinking”, as far as it goes, is “Right=business so if fascism includes business aligning with oppressive government then the Right must be fascist. Whether or not that is relevant to our own political environment or is even accurate doesn’t seem to be considered, but hey, you can’t push any of their logic very far before it falls apart and this is a good example.)

        Anyway, if fascism included collusion or intertwining of government and industry, it seems that Amazon is offering us a 21st Century American version of it. Along with Twitter and Google.

        The funny thing is with which end of the political spectrum they’re working.

      • Amazona August 25, 2022 / 4:43 pm

        A new example:

        Meta, the parent company of Facebook, made an announcement that they will be throttling political content from users’ timelines in the build-up to the 2022 midterms. What qualifies as “political content?” Posts tackling such topics as high inflation, gas prices, the IRS, and foreign policy. In a nutshell, anything you would criticize Joe Biden and the Democrats for. Add Biden’s student loan bailout to that list.

        The HOUSE GOP JUDICIARY COMMITTEE had a post removed. A two-sentence, eleven-word post. The first sentence expressed an opinion that if you take out a loan you pay it back. The committee then emphasized that position by adding a second sentence: “Period.”

        The stated reason: “Your post goes against our Community Standards:.

        Unclear is what community standards were violated. If I were to guess, Meta will say the GOP account didn’t provide “context.” The context is that the White House who called up Meta to tell them to remove the post… disagrees. As do the Meta employees excited that taxpayers are paying off their student loans.

        Let’s go down the list. Opposition memes aren’t allowed in the timeline. Opposition bloggers aren’t allowed. Opposition journalists are seeing their traffic throttled. Now, the opposition party–the LITERAL OPPOSITION PARTY–can’t post an opinion that is common among Americans who paid off their loans or never took out loans to pay off.

  7. Cluster August 26, 2022 / 9:07 am

    Just a morning reminder on what Biden voters have done to this country:

    * Record 20 million US homes are behind on utility bills, industry group says
    * Cost of electricity has increased sharply due to rising natural gas prices
    * Households have been forced to choose between paying bills and buying food
    * Situation is raising safety fears about power cutoffs during extreme heatwaves
    * Crisis is even worse in the UK, which is more dependent on natural gas for power

    In addition to this, the POS POTUS called all Trump supporters fascists yesterday LOL, YCMTSU.

    I fully expected failure when Biden voters cheated and won, but this failure is on a level no one expected. Maybe if they can just convince more people that white supremacy leads to climate change which leads to vaccine mandates, then they might have something.


  8. fieldingclaymore August 26, 2022 / 11:57 am

    Interesting Statement on debt forgiveness.

    If you’re a Christian and you’re big mad about the possibility of student loan debt being canceled.

    Let me remind you that the entirety of your faith is built on a debt that you can’t pay that someone else stepped in and paid for you

    • Retired Spook August 26, 2022 / 12:37 pm

      There’s a problem with your logic, in addition to it being offensive to people of faith. The way Biden did it (illegally, BTW, according to the Speaker of the House) is akin to religious leaders (bishops, cardinals, the Pope, etc.) having their debt paid while their congregations all go to hell.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 2:25 pm

        Just as these people have no shame in misstating the Constitution they are shameless in trying to use their profoundly flawed concepts of Christianity to make a point.

    • Cluster August 26, 2022 / 12:45 pm

      Anyone who likes to rip babies from the woman’s womb and kill them, or worse yet, sexualize those babies if they can’t kill them first should never lecture anyone about anything.

      That’s who you are fielding. That’s who Democrats are, and that’s why there will be a war in this country if people like you don’t STFU.

      • fieldingclaymore August 26, 2022 / 1:05 pm

        How do you feel about Blake Masters backing off his 100% pro-life stance now that his is in the general. So he wants to allow ripping out some babies out of the womb just not as many as Mark Kelly, right?

      • Retired Spook August 26, 2022 / 1:13 pm

        Now you’re just grasping at straws. You’re really pathetic.

      • fieldingclaymore August 26, 2022 / 1:22 pm

        How is that pathetic? He changed his position and his website within days of getting the nomination. Abortion is murder right?

      • Cluster August 26, 2022 / 1:32 pm

        Tell me fielding, how exactly will Blake Masters effect the abortion issue in any way??? Can he change federal law??? State law?? Can he defund Planned parenthood?? The answer is no to all three, so why in the world does it matter if he is personally pro life or not?? He will be elected to the Senate to serve Arizonans on every issue EXCEPT abortion. That now is a State legislature issue, so please just STFU.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 2:10 pm

        When you are politically illiterate—and politically indifferent when it comes to true politics instead of the artificial cage matches created to entertain the ignorant—-it’s not just about Identity Politics, it’s about absolutes.

        So to them if you approve of most of Donald Trump’s actions and policies as president that means you totally, absolutely, with every fiber of your being, worship and adore him and everything he has ever said or done..

        On the other side of that coin, they can’t admit to flaws or defects or even crimes associated with the team they have chosen, because that would mean totally rejecting those people, so they just deny it all to allow them to continue their support.

        We understand that our candidates, coming from the human gene pool as they do, will be flawed in some ways, and we might not be in full agreement with every single thing they say, believe or support. But, as we don’t base OUR decisions on the superficiality of Identity Politics, we can decide what disqualifies a person from our support and what does not.

        This is such a foreign concept to the Identity Politics lemmings, we’re just speaking a different language.

      • fieldingclaymore August 26, 2022 / 1:43 pm

        When Trump wins in ’24 and the GOP has both houses an abortion ban will be one of the first bills that Speaker Stefanik puts on the floor. Whether you like it or not abortion is on the ballot this fall.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 1:54 pm

        This, of course, is based on the ongoing failure to understand the Constitution, or the Dobbs ruling. The ruling pointed out that Roe was faulty law because nowhere in the Constitution is authority over abortion, or health care, delegated to the federal government. Therefore the Court cited the Tenth Amendment (which is part of the Constitution, FYI).

        The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

        This will not have changed under a Republican president or Congress. Even then, the 10th Amendment will be the defining law regarding assertion of federal authority over abortion.

        Today’s Dem Congrescritters are obviously ignorant of, or dismissive of, this fact.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 2:03 pm

        I have to admit kind of enjoying the total lack of dignity shown by the trolls who are so eager to charge in to post the most inane, ignorant and often toxic comments. After a while it reaches a a tipping point of just being too annoying to put up with any more, but it’s kind of interesting to see what passes for thought, much less political discourse, from the lemmings on the Loony Left.

      • Cluster August 26, 2022 / 1:58 pm

        And a federal ban on abortion would be just as unConstitutional as Roe was. See Amazona’s post. Next.

      • fieldingclaymore August 26, 2022 / 2:02 pm

        Roe was the law for 50 years so who knows what will happen when a law the supreme court likes comes before it? NEXT

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 4:21 pm

        We’ve already discussed the dangers of judicial activism legislating from the bench, and we know that it is likely to happen again, at least if the Left succeeds in getting a majority on the Court again.

        This is why it is so important to keep appointing Constitutional originalists who stick to the law and their purpose for being on the bench—to apply the Constitution as it is written, and not invent far-fetched excuses for circumventing it.

      • fortyacresbeyond August 26, 2022 / 4:30 pm

        “This will not have changed under a Republican president or Congress. Even then, the 10th Amendment will be the defining law regarding assertion of federal authority over abortion.”

        And yet, when the draft decision leaked, Mitch McConnell was asked whether a national abortion ban would be “worthy of debate.”

        His response: “If the leaked opinion became the final opinion, legislative bodies—not only at the state level but at the federal level—certainly could legislate in that area. And if this were the final decision, that was the point that it should be resolved one way or another in the legislative process. So yeah, it’s possible.”

        Apparently for conservatives, the Tenth Amendment applies only when they want it to.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 11:14 pm

        Are you truly claiming that Mitch McConnell speaks for all Republicans, or for “all conservatives”? Your passion for pettiness is astounding.

        He was wrong. Congress can legislate all it wants, but it’s always going to come back to whether its efforts comply with the Constitution.

      • fortyacresbeyond August 27, 2022 / 12:00 am

        It’s not a matter of being petty. Mitch McConnell is currently the minority leader of the Senate and would be the majority leader if the Republicans regain control. He’s not a conservative outlier, nor is he the only one that has suggested national legislation outlawing abortion in all fifty states. So stop with the fiction that this wouldn’t happen under Republican control of government.

    • Cluster August 26, 2022 / 12:49 pm

      Fielding, you need to understand that all the hate you and your non binary colleagues have towards MAGA. Magnify that times 10 and that’s how we feel about people like you.

  9. Retired Spook August 26, 2022 / 1:01 pm

    Color me shocked!

    Facebook suppressed stories about Hunter Biden’s laptop before the 2020 election after the FBI told the company they should look out for Russian “misinformation,” Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg told podcast host Joe Rogan Thursday.

    • Cluster August 26, 2022 / 1:28 pm

      Just the tip of the iceberg. It will all come out eventually and it will be undeniable that Democrats STOLE the 2020 election, and that realization will result in a lot of people abandoning the neo fascist Democrat party.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 2:23 pm

        The Dems focus on the word “stole” because it has such an emotional impact. And it allows them to redefine the term. I think they have narrowed it down to moving actual votes from one person to another, which is easy to deny because it’s so hard to prove. And it allows them to ignore the many facets of the election-rigging that went on, and are going on now.

        This includes the Russia Hoax and all the federal agencies participating in illegal activities to try to influence the election.

        It includes the many times states abruptly changed election laws, in violation of their own constitutions or legislated rules. and then accepted ballots submitted under these new illegitimate rules as valid, and counted them, and merged them with the legitimate votes so they could never be isolated and deleted.

        It includes “certification” of admittedly uncertifiable vote tallies, in states where there was proof of fraud

        It includes the blatant dishonesty of what have become Advocacy Media, in lying about the Republican candidates in a negative way while promoting the Dems.

        It includes Congress mounting sham “impeachment” hearings to try to smear the President with innuendo and false perceptions of wrongdoing.

        It includes the collusion of federal agencies and the Advocacy Media in lying about and hiding the information about Joe Biden in the Hunter Biden laptops

        It includes the active participation of Social Media and their shutting down of opposition commentary and news while enabling anything promoting the Leftist positions and policies and people

        It includes the current efforts of Dems in the House to simply remove a strong opponent from the ballot

        And now it includes this shameful spectacle of the raid on Trump’s home.

        They constantly try to change the focus of the election manipulations, but they are there, and they have pushed this nation to the edge of a cliff.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 4:30 pm

        One of the dangers of having a senile president is the constant risk that he is going to accidentally blurt out the truth.

        As Pudding Brain Joe did yesterday in a speech to a “crowd” that didn’t even fill a school gym: According to Biden, if Democrats retain Congress, they will pass legislation to ensure “no one has the opportunity to steal an election again.”

      • Cluster August 26, 2022 / 2:57 pm

        And it includes loud, ignorant, non binary, mouth puppets like fielding and Casper who are like Don Quijote out there fighting all the perceived white supremacy LOL.

  10. Cluster August 26, 2022 / 2:02 pm

    Exactly what I suspected:

    The affidavit is out. The one wherein the U.S. government found it necessary to raid a former president’s home earlier this month. And despite a whopping 413 redacted lines (yes, I counted each one), the document appears to implicate the FBI, DOJ, and Judge Bruce Reinhart in colluding to remove documents related to the long-debunked “Russiagate” saga.

    Trump has a lot of dirt on these people


    • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 4:13 pm

      No, I have NOT asked for examples of alleged Trump supporters doing stupid and illegal things. I have asked for any evidence that these stupid and illegal things were suggested by Trump, incited by Trump or even encouraged by Trump. And, as usual, there are no such examples, because he never said a word to that effect.

      As I have asked before, do you people even read the links that make you so giddy? Yeah, the guy was an asshat. Yes, he probably did take a swing at a cop. But where is the really important part of the story, if it is going to be relevant to the howls about Trump?

      As usual, it is missing the part where Trump is quoted as sending this guy in to do violence. Missing is a single word about rioting, hurting cops, becoming violent etc. What does the guy say about why he was there? Does he say he was acting on orders from Trump? Of course not. What he says is ““I was going down as a patriotic citizen to celebrate” because it was obvious to any rational person that Congress would have to agree to postpone certification for ten days to allow time to look into allegations of fraud in the election.

      People use bad judgment all the time. There are many studies of the effect of crowd emotions and actions on individuals. So a doofus carrying a flag got upset about something and swung it a cop. Not good, not legal, but so far from “insurrection” it’s not even in the ball park (no wonder what the legally illiterate judge has to say) and most of all there isn’t even the slightest hint that he was incited, directed, encouraged or cheered on by Trump.

      You guys are so pathetic in your relentless snouting around for something to excuse or justify your pathological hatred for the man. But you’re stuck with just being that kind of guy.

      Definitely not the kind of guy who would wonder why an old guy like this got four years when the people who tried to burn law enforcement officers alive never even got arrested.

    • fortyacresbeyond August 26, 2022 / 4:24 pm

      You asked, “Can you find a record of an identified Trump supporter being found guilty of actual violence against police officers?”

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 4:27 pm

        OK—you have proved that all morons are not on the Left, and that even self-defined conservatives can also respond to the voices in their heads. Lookie lookie—a “gotcha”—what passes for political discourse on the Loony Left

        Still no link to anything Trump said

      • fortyacresbeyond August 26, 2022 / 4:32 pm

        Haha. It’s not a gotcha. It’s quoting YOU asking a very specific question of me.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 11:16 pm

        Still no link to anything Trump said, Bickerboy

        But kudos for snouting around till you found an example. You must be giddy with pride.

      • Cluster August 26, 2022 / 5:47 pm

        So forty, you’re aware that BLM killed Capt. David Dorn in St.Louis and five other Dallas Police officers, along with their famous chant “pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon”, right? So please do go on about violent Trump supporters. It’s always fascinating to watch how the mind of a child works.

      • Cluster August 26, 2022 / 5:50 pm

        Oh and let’s not forget Capital Police officer Michael Byrd shot and killed an unarmed innocent woman, Ashli Babbit, which I’m sure has forty a little orgasmic.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 11:01 pm

        I think what really revved his engine was watching that DC cop beat an unconscious woman to death as she lay helpless on the street, with people begging her to stop.

    • Retired Spook August 26, 2022 / 5:57 pm

      Hundreds of Antifa and BLM “protestors” assaulted police officers with flags during the summer of 2020. Can you at least spend as much time as you have finding violent Trump supporters and see if you can find how many from the summer of 2020 were sentenced to 3-1/2 years in prison?

  11. Cluster August 26, 2022 / 6:10 pm

    Here’s the other thing Democrats need to understand, pay attention forty – no one believes anything you say anymore. You have zero credibility all because of the blatant deception, incompetence, and destruction you have engaged in over the last 6 years.

    And what is happening now is that Democrats have been so consumed with hate and destroying Trump, that their hate is destroying them. And it will be a thing of beauty to watch. Zuckerberg’s admission with Rogan yesterday is just the beginning. There is a lot to uncover, and they will eat their own if they have to, to save themselves.

    • fortyacresbeyond August 26, 2022 / 6:24 pm

      The Trump supporter I mentioned above pleaded guilty. It doesn’t matter whether you believe me or not. David Dorn’s killer was convicted of first degree murder and other charges.

      As for Spook’s request, you can find how many from the summer of 2020 were sentenced to 3-1/2 years in prison and report back to us if you like.

      • Cluster August 26, 2022 / 7:41 pm

        Don’t ever talk to me unless I ask you a question. And re: that, please learn what a rhetorical question is. Fuck off.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 11:07 pm

        The point is not how many people who happened to support Trump also got sentenced. The point here is whether or not Trump told them to do whatever it is they were pressured to admit to doing.

        This is typical of the Lefty tap dancing and skittering from one thing to another. The whole Cheney argument started off as a claim that Trump “incited violence”. And no one, not a single person, can come up with anything he said or did to support this.

        So, the lateral move to “well, SOME TRUMP SUPPORTERS did things” OK, some people did—but did Trump tell them to? Oh, no, now they’re baying after a different claim.

        But if we are going to be serious about this, it only makes sense to evaluate the treatment of Trump supporters relative to the treatment of other rioters. And when we see wide disparity that can only be explained by anti-Trump bias, against him and anyone who supports him, we are in very different territory.

        That is, the territory of the powers of the State being used to intimidate and punish people more for their political affiliation than for their actions.

      • Amazona August 26, 2022 / 11:22 pm

        “As for Spook’s request, you can find how many from the summer of 2020 were sentenced to 3-1/2 years in prison and report back to us if you like.”

        I’d like to know how many were held in solitary confinement and denied speedy trials. Actually, I know the answer to that question: None.

        In other words, you know that politically acceptable rioting, arson and murder do not result in many prosecutions, so you are just being coy.

      • fortyacresbeyond August 27, 2022 / 12:10 am

        Yes, the point is that virtually all of the violent rioters were Trump supporters. That is borne out by the actions and statements of those who have been arrested and convicted or pleaded guilty, and quite often they blame Donald Trump himself for their actions as a defense for avoiding conviction or as an attempt to reduce their sentence.

      • Amazona August 27, 2022 / 3:34 pm

        While that may be what you think is a point, the videos illustrate that it is a lie. We saw blac bloc rioters engaging in the worst of the violence. They—professional rioters and agitators—came armed with the same weapons they used for two years in Seattle, Portland, Kenosha, Chicago, etc. That is, frozen water bottles, laser pointers, bricks and so on. You might try to claim that a Trump supporter took a flag to the rally with the intent of using it as a weapon, but that would be crazy.

        The point you are inadvertently making is that only people who could be identified as Trump supporters were arrested and charged.

        And while blaming Trump might, after going through the spin cycle of your brain a few times, come out looking (to you) like Trump told them to do it, you are too firmly established as a dedicated Trump hater with disregard, if not disdain, for the truth. For someone who is so obviously controlled by the voices in your head, you sure don’t give much credence to the idea that other people might “hear” things that don’t exist, too.

        There have been many studies done on how and why peaceful people can act violently in crowds. The most important thing to know is that social contagion is almost always a contributing factor when peaceful protests turn disorderly. Social contagion refers to the spread of inappropriate behaviors simply because crowd members see others engaging in them. When you see someone throwing a rock through a store window the action becomes valid. The actions of a few people in a crowd of thousands may legitimize the violence. And there is a sense of “this is OK to do right now” because people around me are doing it.

        I also suggest that when/if police, feeling threatened or angered, become aggressive toward people who just happen to be in the crowd, there is a higher likelihood of those people reacting with anger and even violence. I have described one such example I saw on a video. Totally peaceful people in the front of a crowd, along a police barricade, were suddenly pushed into the barricade by a surge of people behind them. As the barricade tilted, the officers behind it, probably feeling threatened, pushed it back into the people who inadvertently pushed it in the first place—but they did it angrily, and you could tell from the video and the expressions on their faces that they were being very aggressive and hostile. When they pushed the barricade across its original plane, into people who had done nothing wrong but were being assaulted by the barricade being roughly and aggressively shoved into them, with lots of shouting, they pushed back . From that couple of seconds it was easy to see how one misstep could turn into violence, and with professional agitators in the crowd, like those being organized and directed by Ray Epps, it wouldn’t take long for things to get out of control.

        It takes a lot of dedication to believing that otherwise peaceful people went to the rally with the intent of becoming violent. That simply does not comply with the facts related to the history of peaceful and orderly Trump rallies. However, the spontaneous violence of a few Trump supporters does fit with the studies done on social contagion. This is what we have seen in urban riots, when professional rioters start the violence, then fade away as the population gets caught up in the emotion and energy

  12. Cluster August 27, 2022 / 8:37 am

    When Trump supporters decide to become violent – all non binary Democrats wont have time to post their nonsense online. They will be running for their lives.

  13. Cluster August 27, 2022 / 9:20 am

    Love this. The woman who likes to go on national tv and label Trump supporters as racist extremists, now doesn’t like it when someone turns the tables on her. If only she was a supreme court justice. Poor little bitch, get use to it. It’s just beginning.


    • casper3031 August 27, 2022 / 1:35 pm

      So let get this straight. A woman who goes on national TV and labels Trump supporters as racist extremists is stalked by a Trump supporter who is a racist extremist and you think it proves what?

      • Amazona August 27, 2022 / 3:39 pm

        Please provide links to support your claim that the “stalker” is a “Trump supporter who is a racist extremist”. I’d also like more information on just what, exactly, constitutes “stalking” in this case.

        And you don’t seem at all concerned that this woman is, herself, a racist and an extremist who traffics in vile and vicious attacks on conservatives. Naturally, you’re fine with that. Of course it lets you use those favorite words of the Loony Left—“racist” and “extremist”. I’m surprised you didn’t manage to work “nationalist” in there.

      • Amazona August 27, 2022 / 8:10 pm

        I tracked down the story and didn’t find a reference to the “stalker’s” political affiliation or preference. You just lie. The children of Casper are so lucky you are gone.

      • casper3031 August 27, 2022 / 8:21 pm

        “I tracked down the story and didn’t find a reference to the “stalker’s” political affiliation or preference. You just lie. The children of Casper are so lucky you are gone.”

        I made an assumption that the 48 year old armed white male with guns was a Trump supporter. I would say it’s a pretty good assumption at this point. Oh, I still go back to Casper classrooms as a guest speaker. Something I’ve also done in three other states.

  14. Retired Spook August 27, 2022 / 1:58 pm

    Jeff Childers has a lawyer’s take on the Mar-A-Lago raid affidavit.

    • Amazona August 27, 2022 / 3:40 pm

      That’s a really good and informative piece.

  15. Amazona August 27, 2022 / 3:52 pm

    It’s less than two months till the midterm election—time to start messing with the rules again.

    In the middle of the election cycle, the Pennsylvania Department of State has suddenly changed its voter registration application form to include a mail-in ballot application.

    The applications used to be on separate forms, but this seemingly small clerical change is creating logistical headaches for county election directors and causing voter confusion.

    Registering to vote and seeking a mail-in ballot are two different actions requiring different responses in the county election offices.

    What could be the rationale for this stupid move? Pennsylvania already lets people sign up to always get mail-in ballots. The timing of this is suspicious. Every time a state starts fooling with election rules and laws right before an election, it seems there is a nefarious reason behind it.

  16. Amazona August 27, 2022 / 3:54 pm

    I see the Bickerboys are hard at it again. What a nasty little trio of sour, hostile devotees of lies, hate and malice.

    Oh, well—if the blog is OK with that………….

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