The Death and (Possible) Rebirth of Civilization

There is, as you might expect, a lot of dooming and glooming going on right now. Conservatives are a bit shell-shocked: this was not the result we hoped for or expected. There is a sense that this was our last chance and whether you want to assign our defeat to cheating or to failure, the bottom line is a sense of hopelessness: that we’ve shot our bolt and now our nation – our civilization – will die. Well, I’ve got some news for you on that score: our civilization will not die as the aftermath of this failure. So, you can feel better about that.

Now, for the bad news: our civilization is already dead. Been dead for a while. Our country has been dead for just as long.

When Alaric and his Visigoths entered Rome in 410 is wasn’t the end of Rome. It just told everyone what was obvious to the perceptive for a long while: Rome was dead. And, man, was it ever dead. It is estimated that at the time Rome’s population was still about a million people and Alaric’s army probably numbered in the tens of thousands. So, the Romans could have put up a fight but simply chose not to – deciding that, in the end, it was safer to be sacked than to fight for hearth and home. The city which had once defied Hannibal after Cannae simply gave up and that showed that whatever Rome had once been, it was long dead by 410. If you had to pinpoint a time when it died, it would probably be about the time Caracalla extended Roman citizenship to all free adult males of the Empire – he did this for tax purposes because certain taxes only applied to Roman citizens. This indicated that Roman citizenship was fundamentally meaningless – and so Rome was meaningless: just a collection of people held together by force of habit and doomed to fall to pieces at the first serious outside pressure.

Sound a bit familiar?

If I had to identify the time when our civilization threw in the towel I would say it was when the French – with our approval – gave up in Algeria. I’ve talked about this before but to really nail it down, let us note that prior to that surrender, the West had fought two world wars – at a cost of about 80 million deaths – to uphold the principle that you can’t shoot your way to power and wealth. The basic sin of Kaiser and Fuhrer was this: a determination to use unlimited force to obtain national ends. Hitler was, of course, vastly worse in degree from the Kaiser but no worse in kind.

Whole forests have been used to print the books trying to explain – or explain away – the causes of WWI but the bottom line is that no matter what else was going on; no matter what stresses and fears were operational in that terrible July of 1914, Germany had absolutely zero cause to go to war against France, Belgium and Luxembourg. None of those nations has offered the slightest threat to Germany. France hadn’t even offered to come to Russia’s aid in her looming war with Germany’s ally, Austria. But Germany attacked, determined that unlimited use of force would be to Germany’s benefit. Britain and, much later, America voluntarily joined in the effort to thwart that idea. And, it worked: Germany was defeated. But didn’t learn her lesson. And so Hitler tried again, this time willing to be even more brutal in the application of unlimited force than the Kaiser ever was. And at very high cost the United States and our allies thwarted this ambition.

And it was a good thing and a fine principle and a principle, moreover, which was not only successful, but morally correct. Whatever had happened before in the long trail of human crimes – all the conquest and colonization and other uses of force to gain wealth and power – the West had now risen above that and set the new standard. The good standard: the assertion that civilization would conduct itself properly. That if there were differences, they would be composed by fair negotiation between the parties and all civilized people would unite against anyone who sought to change the situation by force. It was a human peak and it should have ushered in a Golden Age. But it didn’t.

Pretty much as soon as the guns of WWII fell silent, other people took up the guns and started trying to shoot their way into power and wealth and this great Western Civilization which had just spent so much just to stop that…wavered. It hemmed and hawed. It made, at best, half-hearted efforts against the violent barbarians and tried to accommodate them rather than destroy them.

Oh, lots of reasons were advanced to explain why we couldn’t or shouldn’t destroy these new purveyors of violence, but none of them stood up to any sort of scrutiny. It was all a mere coward’s dodge: a simple unwillingness to fight. And that, to me, was why Algeria was such a pivotal event. Sure, the French could be (and often were) amazing SOBs in how they treated the Algerians. There were genuine grievances to be addressed…but it was also France doing this. It wasn’t Nazis or other brutes – the French were civilized and even when they were doing their worst, voices in France were calling for different ways of doing it. At the end of the day, a free press and a democratic system of governance would ensure that the Algerians got a fair shake. And as proof of this – proof that France was trying – tens of thousands of Algerians volunteered to fight to keep Algeria French. Some estimates are that more Algerians fought for France than for independence. But they and everyone else were tossed aside – and power was transferred not to civilized Algerians who simply wanted fair treatment, but to beasts in human skin who’s main tactics were the torture of Algerians who didn’t support them and the murder of French civilians in their cafes and shopping centers. That France – the very center of Western Civilization – signed off on this showed that the Civilization was, if not dead, in its death throes.

In and among all of this, whispering poison into the soul of the West, were the Marxists. You can call them what you like as they went by many names but the bottom line was that curled at the breast of the West were her own sons and daughters who had taken up the Marxist philosophy and come, in various ways, to despise their own civilization. They harped upon its flaws – real and imagined – and sought to demoralize and disarm the people of the West, claiming that if we could just get rid of it – get rid of civilization – something better could take its place. But all they were and remain are barbarians – people who shook off the West didn’t have another civilization; they just had a new barbarism and one worse than any others. Worse because not only were they hate-filled vandals, but because in pursuit of their ideology they proposed to abolish the two things which lay at the foundation of any decent civilization: the worth of the individual and the primacy of the family. They, in their various ways, wished to reduce the human to a mass of atoms with no faith or loyalty – only appetites to be filled and with the filling determined by a person’s place in an ever changing, but rigidly enforced, social hierarchy.

As we surrendered again and again to the armed barbarians we became, as a people, demoralized: blood was expended as was treasure but no victory was won, no destruction of the wicked. In fact, usually the wicked emerged triumphant and often lauded by those supposedly in charge of sustaining our civilization. The thought crept into the public mind that all effort is pointless, that patriotism is folly, that the family is oppressive and that justice never triumphs. All became a crazed desire for more goods and comfort…a frenzied pursuit of toys and sex combined with public posing about morality.

It took from 1960 to 1970 to accomplish this – since then, what good we have has been mere leftovers from what was built before. And it is getting rather tattered and threadbare, isn’t it? Kinda like it is dead, or at least very near death.

Can it be fixed?

I think so. But not by trying to uphold what is. We’ve got the hollow shell and what occupies the shell is overtly hostile both to the old, dead civilization as well as any attempt to revive civilization. I think a recent poll of British youth indicated that less than 1 in 5 have a positive view of Churchill. The slayer of Nazis is felt to have been an old racist that nobody can possibly like. So, no, we’re not going to just win an election and, presto, party like its 1949. It will take much more than that. It will take a Revolution.

The good news is that as bad as things are, the basic structure of the old system is intact. Especially here in the United States, our written Constitution, often only honored in the breech, still exists. It is a handhold – a lifeline. Something we can refer to and cling to as both a roadmap to what we want and an unanswerable argument in our favor (any application of the Constitution as written works in our favor). We can, that is, via Constitutional means obtain the perfectly legitimate power to impose our views on society (don’t go thinking that you can’t impose morality – all law is an imposition of morality: we’re just arguing of which morality will be imposed). But do to it will take a view-shift: it isn’t just enough to win nor is it enough, victory secured, to tinker about the edges. When we obtain power in whatever form and for however long, we must ruthlessly use that power to advance our cause to the maximum limit. We must crush our opponents and build up our allied. We must play favorites. We must become convinced that Party over Country is really Civilization over Barbarism. We are the only people who can restore civilization: everyone not on our side – witting or not – is on the side of the barbarians. We must become the miracle Army of Caesar showing up as Alaric lays siege to Rome and changes the course of history by sending the barbarians packing.

In this the only people we can count on is ourselves. The broad mass of people must be convinced to back us even when they don’t fully understand what we’re attempting. This will require tactical adjustments. Never a lie! Barbarians lie; civilized people don’t. But it does mean that if securing power requires us to go along with some particular stupid idea, then it is worth it if by so doing we gain the power and then use the power to advance our real goal: a reborn West. A civilization of educated, moral, truthful and hardworking families. A people of self reliance and uncomplaining patience in the face of adversity. A people like our grandfather’s who endured far more hardship and trial than any of us ever have.

It can be done. Mostly because barbarians, as wickedly destructive as they are, remain stupid and cowardly. They’ve only won because we surrendered to them. They will be put to flight by any army of civilized people who are wiling to stand up for themselves. The real question is: will we stand?

63 thoughts on “The Death and (Possible) Rebirth of Civilization

  1. Retired Spook November 14, 2022 / 8:04 am

    Elites have never been concerned about using their citizens for cannon fodder, and the next global conflict will not only be no exception, it will be cannon fodder on steroids. You’ve got a lot of WEF, Klaus Schwab types who honestly believe the world would be a lot better place with 50-90% fewer people.

    • Cluster November 14, 2022 / 4:23 pm

      Klaus Schwab and George Soros are clear and present dangers to free societies and I wish more people understood that, and did something about it.

      • Amazona November 14, 2022 / 4:33 pm

        Well, to do that you would need more people who understand what is at stake.

        There are several different ways to define different groups of people and one of them is those who understand and value freedom and those who don’t.

        Do you want the government to control your health care? Then you don’t.
        Do you want the government to control education? Then you don’t.
        Do you want the government to be able to force you to take any medication for any reason at any time? If you do, then you don’t understand or value liberty.

        And so on. When you look at what the Lefties want, it always boils down to handing over chunks of their personal liberty to the State. They think it’s a fair trade—they get to feel safer in exchange for turning over some of their autonomy to the government. They don’t have to pay for a doctor, but then they don’t get to choose their doctors, or to take brand name drugs instead of generics.

  2. Cluster November 14, 2022 / 9:18 am

    When you have universal mail in voting, ballot harvesting, late ballot drops, and lax verification combined with an open border – you no longer have a country. You have an open air sewer led by a greedy, power obsessed political faction.

  3. Cluster November 14, 2022 / 9:29 am

    … any application of the Constitution as written works in our favor

    Well remember, to people like Casper, the Constitution is racist and misogynistic. The only people who are not racist and misogynistic are people like Casper and Fielding … weak white men who willingly defer to minorities to make their decisions for them and gladly allow women to kill their children. That’s what is known as “enlightened” now.

    So your question is right on – “will we stand”?? Probably not. Men are not what they use to be. They are too comfortable and too afraid of death.

    • Amazona November 14, 2022 / 11:55 am

      As little respect as I have for females with so little self-respect or character that they think it’s OK to kill off the products of their pursuit of sexual pleasure, that contempt also goes to the males who care so little about the roles of men that they just meekly shuffle along and support this affront to human dignity. Even rodents protect their young. But not Leftists.

      Casper has always been one of those quasi-men, a “teacher” whose self-identification depended heavily on befriending children who were on the fringes of their society and paying special attention to them by playing video and lip-syncing games with them. Their adulation formed a major part of his identity as a “teacher”. This is not a manly characteristic. but it is typical of the squishy Lefty males we see.

      I look at the Dem males in the House of Representatives—-Nadler, Schiff, Kinzinger, Smallwell, et al, and I don’t know when or if I have even seen a more testosterone-deficient group of alleged men in my life. And seriously—Chuck Schumer? If it weren’t for Hillary and Nancy and now Liz, there wouldn’t be a set of balls on the Left side of the aisle.

      • Cluster November 14, 2022 / 12:14 pm

        I completely agree. And it’s only white men for some reason who have willingly put their balls and morals on the shelf in deference to selfish women and ignorant minorities. In fact, I believe it’s white liberals who are the only species on the planet who don’t protect their young and who willingly abdicate their responsibilities.

      • Amazona November 14, 2022 / 1:36 pm

        Here I disagree. Given the large numbers of black babies killed in the womb every year, and the ghetto culture of bragging about being “baby daddies” I have to think black men are also abandoning one of the core principles of civilization—that of protecting their offspring and fathering them.

        It seems that the Latino culture, and Asians, are the only ones where manhood is seen as more than gang violence or meekly trotting behind screeching “women’s marches” to run errands and pay bills.

      • Cluster November 14, 2022 / 2:46 pm

        Oh I agree with that .. my contention is that white men will abdicate their manhood at the altar of equity whereas I don’t see many black men willingly emasculating themselves. Re: Fatherhood, yes you’re right

      • Amazona November 14, 2022 / 4:32 pm

        A few years ago I read an article positing the theory that Western Civilization will be saved Latino people—they will be the remaining culture respecting religion and the family, as the rest of the world slides into the abyss of hedonism, narcissism, laziness and apathy, allowing the rise of totalitarian governments in which the State is the only accepted religion.

        It’s starting to look kind of like a prophecy.

        There was a book called How The Irish Saved Civilization, explaining how when the rest of the world went bonkers it was the insular culture of Ireland, with its strong religion and family values, that kept priceless records of civilization hidden and protected. It will be interesting to see if, on the brink of another threat to civilization, it will be the Latin culture that protects the core elements that we will need to rebuild.

        At the rate of decline I am seeing now, it’s looking like we have two, maybe as many as four, generations to go till we collapse in on ourselves. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

      • Cluster November 14, 2022 / 5:17 pm

        That is indeed a prophecy. Family and Faith will always be attacked by authoritarians as those are the two foundational pillars of free people. I have maybe 20 years left in this world so the impending collapse of our Constitutional Republic wont effect me a great deal, but I am saddened to think that my grandson will not live in the same America I did. And if I am ever presented an opportunity to join in and help put to a stop to this decline … sign me up.

  4. Cluster November 14, 2022 / 10:41 am

    Here is some much needed clarity. Remember the palettes of cash Obama gave to Iran on his way out?? I do.

    Yes, the same gang that gave billions to Iran, that made up and harassed President Trump in an attempted coup related to Russia collusion, and that stole the 2020 Election from the American people – stole this election too.

    Here’s the other thing to watch for, if the GOP wins the House, they will not do any investigations into our election processes, or the blatant crimes the President son has committed. They will however approve more money for Ukraine and continue to marginalize the MAGA faction.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/nope-gop-didnt-lose-mail-ballots-better-person-voting-gop-lost-corrupt-democrats/

  5. Cluster November 14, 2022 / 11:36 am

    I wonder how many more votes Democrats need to win the House?

  6. Retired Spook November 14, 2022 / 1:35 pm

    There was a bit of good news coming out of this election cycle.

    • Mark Noonan November 15, 2022 / 3:39 am

      That is the future – school boards, county commissions, sheriffs offices. The long game requires us to control local government and local schools. The local government protects us from federal encroachment, the schools start to educate kids as we prefer, rather than the Left so just a dozen years after we take control of any board, the kids are primed to be patriots rather than blue-haired illiterates unsure of their gender.

      • Amazona November 15, 2022 / 9:31 am

        Excellent points, and touching on something I had planned to write about.

        Collectivist political models have a big advantage over the individualist model—that is, as a collective it is by definition an organized entity. Organizing the individualists is like herding cats. The collectivists have, therefore, been able to line up long-term plans and then execute them—and one of them has been to infiltrate and then take over the foundational pillars of our American culture and governance. So we have seen them take over our educational system, methodically funneling billions of dollars into what should have been local elections run by local people to determine how their local schools should be run. Only recently, when it finally started to sink in that our schools were being dominated by radical Leftist thinking across the whole country, did people start to pay attention to this.

        But what the collectivists have done that has been really brilliant has been to focus on local and state government. While the Right has had the national seats in our sights, the Left has taken over statehouses across the country. “Heh…state senator. Big deal.”

        But it IS a big deal, because it is the state legislators who pass the election laws letting the Left run roughshod over the electoral process. It is the state legislatures that allow votes to be cast weeks before Election Day, that pass all these laws loosening the regulations over how and when people can vote—-and even more importantly, how those votes can be counted.

        And then those state legislatures “certify” blatantly uncertifiable vote tallies in spite of proof that there is no way to know who really got how many votes.

        So I think we should cede Congress to the delicate balance where it rests now, and leave it up to the warriors like Cruz and Lee and Jordan to fight the good fight, and instead concentrate on our local and state elections.

        That’s where the power is SUPPOSED to reside anyway. But we have let ourselves be lured into thinking that what matters most is the national stage. Oh, it’s certainly important. We have seen how quickly a corrupt and incompetent national administration can plunge a nation into inflation and, coming soon to a location near you, poverty. Real poverty. Loss-of-home poverty.

        And gee, guess what happens when people are bankrupted? They turn to the federal government and beg for it to have more power, to help them in their time of need. Coincidence?

      • Mark Noonan November 16, 2022 / 12:07 am

        National power is sexy – but local power is where it happens in the USA because, tattered as it is, that is where the authority actually resides. We’re not like the rest of the world, even those who have things which seem, at a glance, to be similar to American States. Australia and Canada come closest but the bottom line is that the only other nation on Earth which was founded as a voluntary association of sovereign States is Switzerland. And even in that we still have more State power than the Swiss Cantons do. Keep in mind that an American State can decide, if it wants, to award its Electoral Votes by a coin flip. The only federal requirement on it is that it happen on the same day as every other State chooses their Electors. A County Sheriff has no requirement to enforce any federal law: the Sheriff and deputies can literally watch a federal crime take place in front of them and decide not to do anything about it and there’s nothing anyone can do about it – except at the next election for Sheriff, of course. Local school boards are in most cases entirely independent of all other government. County commissions, too. As you endlessly talk about, it is the Constitution which really decides these things and if we stick to that, we’re home free. To change all that would take an Amendment, and you probably even today couldn’t get 10 States to ratify any such thing.

  7. Cluster November 14, 2022 / 4:50 pm

    “We have the most extensive election fraud team ever assembled” Joe Biden 2020. All you have to do is listen.

    I’m gonna go out on a limb here and predict that a Democrat will win the 2024 POTUS election.

  8. casper3031 November 14, 2022 / 6:02 pm

    That’s it then. Mark says Civilization has ended. So it has to be.

    Except it hasn’t. It has evolved. The Roman Empire didn’t end in 410 A.D. It lasted for another thousand years with Constantinople as its capital. It evolved and when Constantinople fell new civilizations rose in its place. The United States has also evolved over the years, from 13 former colonies to the most powerful country in the world and will continue to evolve as the population continues to change. Personally there are a lot of things happening that I like and some I don’t. but that’s life.

    As far as my manhood, it really doesn’t matter what anyone on here thinks. I’m happy with who and what I am.

    • Mark Noonan November 15, 2022 / 12:38 am

      Roman civilization ended, Casper – it was over and done with. What arose in Byzantium had Roman influences, of course, as did all places where Roman rule had been long established…but it wasn’t Roman. That which the Caesars built, was gone.

      And so, too, with our civilization: the old is dead and gone. You might think this is an evolution but it isn’t: it is mere barbarism. You have criminals and lunatics wandering the streets. You have savage brutes running around the world killing people. You have so much despair that there are teenagers in assisted suicide nations just waiting for their 18th birthday so they can off themselves. What you have survives in the increasingly worn down framework of what used to be Christian civilization. Your roads are crumbling. Your schools produce illiterates. Those who know how to make things work are rapidly aging and there isn’t anyone coming along to replace them because, as barbarians, you never think about building – just using whatever is to hand and taking what doesn’t belong to you. Go ahead and congratulate yourself on what you think you have: but you have nothing…just the rotting carcass of a civilization, much as 5th and 6th century Europeans were still feeding off their Roman inheritance.

      Those like me, we know what is what and we are determined on a revolution to rebuild civilization.

      • Amazona November 15, 2022 / 9:40 am

        casper’s grasp of world history seems to be as feeble and defective as his understanding of our own Constitution.

        But hey, he feels good about himself. And isn’t that the ultimate goal of the Left? To have a lot of smugly self-satisfied sheeple nicely herded into their little pens waiting to have their votes harvested?

        (And why do I think casper’s satisfaction with his manhood is a kind of participation trophy? You know, just for being there.)

    • Cluster November 15, 2022 / 9:05 am

      Caspers response is that of complete resignation. When I said men like him have put their balls and their morals on the shelf – Casper just proved that 100%, and that is a huge problem in this country. Rome fell because men became lazy unproductive hedonists seeking pleasure instead of purpose and that is once again repeating itself. Rush Limbaugh spoke of the “feminization of our society” over 20 years ago, and here we are … men who want to be women, and other men who just don’t want to do manly things. And society suffers.

      • Amazona November 15, 2022 / 9:38 am

        Having ones’ masculinity validated by people who don’t recognize manhood or respect it when they see it is hardly a ringing endorsement of it. Leftist women don’t WANT real men—-they decry “toxic masculinity” and want passive, limp, pseudo-men who join them in their demands for a government that will swaddle them and feed them and change them when they soil themselves and take care of them, that will guarantee a “living wage” so they don’t have to compete or work, that will pay doctors to take care of them.

        Remember, the latter two are on casper’s wish list of what he wants from his government.

  9. Cluster November 15, 2022 / 9:14 am

    Of all the millions that poured into Democrat campaign accounts, I wonder how much of that money was from Pfizer? And Ukraine? And FTX?

    • Amazona November 15, 2022 / 9:43 am

      I’m not sure that Ukraine has any money to funnel into Dem coffers, but I’m sure China is eager to keep the pro-China contingent strong and happy. I think Ukraine’s contribution was to the Biden Crime Family, not necessarily to American politics in general.

      Definitely Pfizer and Moderna. though

      • Amazona November 15, 2022 / 10:26 am

        Good connection

      • Cluster November 15, 2022 / 10:28 am

        The Democrat Party is an organized crime cartel, and they are very good at it.

  10. Cluster November 15, 2022 / 9:42 am

    This should come as no surprise

    Men’s sperm rates have more than HALVED since the 1970s as experts warn trend could ‘threaten mankind’s survival’

    Men are no longer men, and women and children suffer. Male chauvinism is a healthy component to a productive society. And that’s gone. Look at the traffic around you someday and notice the number of men wearing masks being drive around by their wives. That’s abdication.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11429551/Mens-sperm-rates-halved-1970s.html

  11. Retired Spook November 15, 2022 / 10:19 am

    Cluster, the AP has called the Arizona governor’s race for Katie Hobbs. What happened to the 60-80% of the last 600,000+ votes that were projected to go for Lake (when she was only 4,000 votes behind)?

    • Cluster November 15, 2022 / 10:31 am

      Don’t think for a minute that the count was honest. There’s a reason why a week later they are still counting … it was to gage how many more ballots were needed to put the Democrat in office. AZ is the most corrupt State in the union.

    • Cluster November 15, 2022 / 10:35 am

      If the AZ GOP had any balls, they would announce today that they just discovered 50,000 new ballots in marginalized communities … just to fuck with everyone.

      Everyone in the GOP has to resign – Ronna McDaniel, McConnell, McCarthy, etc., etc. ALL establishment GOP leadership needs to go away. We need a younger, more muscular GOP

      • Cluster November 15, 2022 / 5:05 pm

        You know fielding this is exactly why you are so uninteresting and like Amazona says, just a speed bump. You are not well read, you have no interesting objective thought, you jump to weird conclusions, and you most often just regurgitate State media narratives. It’s boring.

        Here you conflate muscular with manly, which most grade school kids would. But there are other definitions of muscular that would apply here. I won’t bother you with the details.

  12. Amazona November 15, 2022 / 10:25 am

    A pretty good analysis, covering (though not using this terminology) the dangers of voting for the person rather than the ideology.

    • Cluster November 15, 2022 / 10:46 am

      Good article

      Democrats, who spend a great deal of time aligning the messaging of their candidates to present a simple to recognize choice for voters, Republican candidates tend to present themselves individually.

      Democrats have become a criminal cartel, and their constituents are mouth breathing loyalists. That is a dynamic that will be very difficult to break through.

    • Retired Spook November 15, 2022 / 11:41 am

      Excellent analysis, especially this part:

      One of the flaws of Republican candidacies in the 2022 election that I saw as I interviewed candidates was a concern their most opinionated core voters would remain loyal if they went off message. There was a great deal of hesitancy to make these core constituencies even a little bit uncomfortable to sell their candidacies to swing voters.

      In contrast, Democrat candidates would say outrageous things not giving a hoot about how orphan Democrats felt about their statements. Indeed, I would say that a key Democratic Party strategy in the 2022 election was to get their core base to vote and to suppress their orphaned base convincing them to stay home instead of voting across party lines. It’s a great strategy to stop a “Red Wave” in its tracks. The tale of the tape says that that strategy worked well everywhere except Florida, where messaging across party lines paid off.

      • Cluster November 15, 2022 / 3:22 pm

        I see the emotionally challenged brigade is out today, whose collective self awareness is absolutely fucking zero lol. Fielding, Casper and Forty are more in tune with their feminine emotions than most women I know. What are observational opinions become “taunts” to them and that’s all you need to know about their level of masculinity and intellectual heft.

        But coming from people who encourage the deaths of the unborn, including their own, it’s no wonder why America is in permanent decline. Weak men beget a weak country.

  13. Cluster November 15, 2022 / 5:12 pm

    Here’s another observation that might be construed as a taunt by the estrogen crowd. I can almost say for certain that at one point in their younger years, Casper, Fielding, and Forty considered themselves to be rebels. Outside the accepted norms. Rage Against the Machine type guys who now? Are nothing more than State apparatchiks. I’m positive they were the ones raging against “RayGun”, No Blood for Oil, Bushitler, and all the other disobedient “liberal” chants du jour, yet now they obediently toe the State line and rage against “election deniers” “climate deniers” and such. And they aren’t alone. It really is a phenomena of human nature that should be studied.

  14. casper3031 November 15, 2022 / 11:17 pm

    Not surprising my comment asking for your definitions of manhood and civilization was deleted. Is it a challenge to your manhood to explain your beliefs? I guess attacking me is okay, but allowing me to respond is scary.

    • Mark Noonan November 16, 2022 / 12:22 am

      I would guess that your comment was ruled silly on some level – I wouldn’t know: I didn’t see it.

      That said: a civilization is a society based on an ideal put into practical terms by a system of laws and customs. Civilization takes people, of course, but not just people living together. Not even just people living together who largely believe the same things. It takes people who largely believe the same things deciding to enforce a social order based on those beliefs.

      Barbarians are people, of course, and barbarians often have strong beliefs – but the practical action of barbarism is that there is no organizing principle. They may have taboos, but they don’t have laws. How a barbarian will treat his fellow barbarians or any outsider is entirely contingent upon the barbarian’s needs of the moment. He may be friendly and honest, or he may be a lying brute, depending on the circumstances. To be sure, a civilized person can also be a lying brute, but when he does so his civilization rejects him and declares him outlaw. A barbarian is only judged by the success of the effort – if lying brutality brings material reward, the other barbarians offer congratulations and seek to emulate the effort.

      When I call you of the Left barbarians I am not saying you wear deerskin clothes and sack towns. But you might as well do that. For each person on the Left what is considered permissible is entirely contingent upon the needs of the moment. Back when the Left was still relatively weak, they were always on about protecting minority rights and free speech…now that the Left is dominant, minorities are despised and speech is to be throttled.

      The Left doesn’t care about individual humans. It cares nothing for family. The most holy oaths are held in contempt. Property is nonexistent (unless you try to steal a Leftist’s property – then watch them squeal). The death of another person – via war, abortion or “assisted suicide” is nothing. As long as the Leftist feels physically fine – as long as their animal needs are met – they don’t give a damn what happens to anyone else.

      As for what a man is: the manly ideal is that of Defender and Provider. The man places himself in front of all threats to women and children and would rather die than let something bad happen to them. A man provides – to his very exhaustion, he will work to make sure the women and children have what they need to live.

      Find me a Leftist who even remotely believes that.

      I’ll let a woman define what the womanly ideal is.

      • casper3031 November 16, 2022 / 12:52 am

        Mark, thank you for responding.

        “Barbarians are people, of course, and barbarians often have strong beliefs – but the practical action of barbarism is that there is no organizing principle. They may have taboos, but they don’t have laws.”

        Think about that. Democrats as a whole have very strong beliefs and have organized to accordingly. Unions, (a pretty leftest concept) are by definition a organization of people with pretty strong beliefs. In addition, Democrats have passed a number of laws over the years, whether you agree Sith them or not.

        “The Left doesn’t care about individual humans. It cares nothing for family.”

        I come from a liberal family. I talk with my kids, grandkids, and siblings at least once a month. I support them and they support me. Family is very impotent to me and I have welcomed and been welcomed by my new family since I remarried. AS for caring about individual humans, most of the laws passed by Democrats are aimed at making individual humans lives better. College loan forgiveness, raising the minimum wage, and improving access to health care are all aimed at making individual’s lives better.

        “As for what a man is: the manly ideal is that of Defender and Provider. The man places himself in front of all threats to women and children and would rather die than let something bad happen to them. A man provides – to his very exhaustion, he will work to make sure the women and children have what they need to live.”

        I have spent my whole life protecting and providing for m family. When my first wife came down with cancer, I spent every day with her either at home or in the hospital providing all the support I could. I still do what I can to support my kids and grandkids. As a teacher, I made the decision to do whatever I had to do to protect “my kids” regardless of the situation and I can say that just about every teacher I’ve known, regardless of political persuasion felt the same. My family never went hungry, whether it required me to work one job or three.

      • Amazona November 16, 2022 / 12:50 pm

        Casper seems oblivious to the fact that his responses only serve to make our points for us.

        The biggest of these is that the Left’s most committed followers have absolutely no, as in zero, understanding of its ideology, its structure, its agendas or its strategies. The second is his utter cluelessness, as he quite seriously explains that Democrats are really very very organized people. This is illustrated, he says, by the Democrat support for unions and their passing of many (oh so many) laws.

        Well, the comment was that barbarism has no organizing principle. Here casper rushes in to explain that barbarism can’t be like the Democrat Party itself because it is so very organized. But what he misses is that the two are not the same. On one hand, there is the party, and yes, it is organized. To the point that every member in Congress obediently bends the knee to its elites, voting in lockstep to support the narratives of the day. But on the other hand we have the barbarians, whom we see out in the streets howling and yowling, screeching and wearing costumes and “protesting”. This support system of the organized Left has no organizing principle. It is a free-floating mass of outraged and malleable humanity which can be pointed at anything the Left wants to be harassed or intimidated.

        He goes on to define all Democrats by his personal life. So, in his little bubble, if he, casper, is a good family man dedicated to his family then by extension the Democrat Party is one dedicated to the same ideals and principles. I couldn’t have asked for a better illustration of Identity Politics, as he blithely ignores the core elements of the party, its ideology, its agendas and its strategies because he sees everything through the Casper Lens. Move out to a thousand-meter view and his personal bubble of reality has nothing to do with the agendas of the Left.

        He has bought into the fantasy that “as for caring about individual humans, most of the laws passed by Democrats are aimed at making individual humans lives better.” He lists “College loan forgiveness, raising the minimum wage, and improving access to health care “.

        OK, “college loan forgiveness” for starters. Setting aside the core reasons for nonpayment of college loans, what does “forgiveness” mean in the real world? In the happy world of sunshine, lollipops and Democrat fairy tales, “forgiving” a debt means it merely goes away. And that is like, so cool, and such a step toward making some human lives better.

        Of course, in the real world it means shifting debt from those who undertook it and agreed to pay it onto people who never made such a commitment. The giddy approval of “student loan FORGIVENESS” conveniently manages to ignore the fact that someone, somewhere, is going to have to pay those debts. Which is, of course, a microcosmic example of the Left’s grasp of economics.

        “Raising the minimum wage” has been addressed so many times, in so many ways, in such great detail, that is amazing to see someone actually praising this boondoggle as “a step toward making some human lives better.” It just takes us back to that microcosmic example of the Left’s grasp of economics, just another version of “well, just print more money”.

        And then the beloved “better access to health care”. Again, I didn’t know that even the most blinded of Lefties were still parroting that tired old discredited meme. Maybe a few got better access, but who paid for it? And what about the people who lost their insurance coverage because of the new regulations?

        What Democrat laws have done, always will do, and are designed to do, is increase the size, scope and power of the government. Period. This is because the structure of Leftist governance is based on the establishment and rule of a massively powerful Central Authority in a collectivist society which does little if anything to recognize, much less encourage, individuality and personal responsibility.

        To accomplish this, the power of the State must rise above all others—above the powers of religion, of the family, and of self-reliance. The State can tolerate no challenge to its authority.

      • Amazona November 16, 2022 / 1:03 pm

        In the little bubble of casperism–him, his family, his school—he is a protector. He brags about protecting his wife, as much as he was able, about protecting his students, about taking such good care of his family.

        And at the same time he supports the ending of innocent human life by females who just don’t want to be bothered with a few weeks of inconvenient pregnancy, even if they don’t want the ongoing responsibility of womanhood called for by parenting.

        In other words, the boundaries of casper’s moral compass are very limited. It’s him, it’s his family. But when seen from a distance, he’s not a nice man at all.

        He supports a political model that has an unbroken history of brutality, of oppression, of tyranny, of imposing economic misery and stripping away of personal liberty, and of untold deaths of people of all ages, from barely post-conception to old age.

        He justifies this with a motley collection of excuses and explanations. He’s a good man because his family never went hungry and because he can spout the party line about its benevolence and concern for the welfare of the people, but he lacks the moral courage to step away from the narratives and take a hard, cold and objective look at the core structure and history and agenda of the political system he supports and even defends.

      • Amazona November 16, 2022 / 1:27 pm

        What does casper ignore, in his defense of the Democrat Party?

        Well, there is the spectacle of the attacks on one of the core elements of our once-healthy economic health, that of the energy sector. Setting aside the loss of hundreds of thousands of well-paying jobs that made Americans self-sufficient and able to provide good lives for themselves and their families, what are the other aspects of this attack on our energy production?

        Most immediately we have seen the skyrocketing costs of basic fuels—gasoline, diesel, jet fuel and heating oil. In the summer this often amounted to just pain at the pump, though it did contribute to higher costs for products, including food, that had to be transported by trucks using diesel fuel. But winter is here, and especially on the East Coast where so much of the heating is done with fuel oil, people are going to suffer. And I don’t mean just suffer by paying more—I mean suffer by literally freezing to death.

        We are supposed to believe that the government is really committed to this Tinker Bell kind of economic manipulation—that if they just cut off petro fuels we will automatically, as if by magic, just start using the politically acceptable sources of energy. But there is growing awareness of the fact that what first seemed like a side effect of fuel shortages might in fact be the real motivation for what has always seemed so blatantly poorly thought out—that is, increasing dependence on the government while giving it more power to “regulate”.

        OK, move out to a bigger view. Do we really think that Putin, if his economy were not bolstered by billions upon billions of US dollars paying for Russian oil, (to replace the oil we are not producing here) would have had the funding to mount his incursions into Ukraine? We need to at least consider, if not fully accept, the likelihood that our energy policies since January 2021 have contributed to massive numbers of deaths, in addition to the destruction of cities and monuments and historical artifacts—in addition to the prospect of people dying right here in our own country as well.

        Inflation: Don’t just look at the trillions of dollars approved by the Democrats in Congress. Look at where it has gone, or will go. Not at the stated intent for such expenses, but at where it really ends up. Because that is where we tend to stop looking. Who is supposed to get that money, who really gets it, and what real purpose would it have served if actually used the way it was presented to us? This might be a good time to look back at the days when Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry greenlighted billions of dollars to go to Ukraine, where those billions —–vanished. Disappeared. Poof. A disappearance associated with a company which had hired the son of that same Vice President, at a very high salary. A disappearance which, when it triggered an investigation into that company and that vice president’s son, resulted in a threat to the government that if the investigation continued the next bundle of billions in US aid would not arrive. This is the kind of thing we need to keep in mind when we look at where those new billions/trillions of taxpayer dollars are going to end up.

        Remember the Glory Days of Obamacare when the job of building a health care website was given to old school buddies of Michelle Obama, who then dropped the ball, didn’t even pretend to go through the normal motions of such a massive development, and then kept the billions of dollars from that contract while the work had to be done by someone else?

        We need to follow the money, to see where it ends up. Because this is not imaginary money. It is actual debt, like student loan debt, being dumped on the shoulders of people not yet in the workplace and many not even born yet.

      • Amazona November 16, 2022 / 1:35 pm

        What else has the Democrat Party brought us in the last couple of years? Well, there is the fact that we, American citizens, were threatened with curtailment of our ability to drive across state lines if we did not bend the knee to the State and accept injections of experimental drugs which not only did not provide any protection against a relatively benign virus but which have proved to be dangerous and even lethal in their own right.

        But it gets “better”. This same government paid billions upon billions of dollars for these bogus drugs, then tried to force us to take them, and even forced people out of their jobs and livelihoods if they refused. AND at the same time allowed the well-paid-off drug companies to fudge or fake drug test reports, and retain Emergency Use Authorization for them, meaning they could not be held liable for damages from the drugs. So the Biden administration paid billions of dollars (and we will never know exactly where all that money went, reminding us of Ukraine) for drugs that were never properly tested, never performed the way the government claimed they would, were often very dangerous and at the same time provided legal protections for the companies making and selling the drugs.

        So drop the preening about never letting your family go hungry, casper. What do you think about this particular combination of tyranny and corruption, brought to you by your beloved Democrat Party?

        (BTW we are still being lied to about the dangers of these drugs, and being told they will protect us from this virus. It’s all lies, dangerous lies, brought to you by the Biden Administration.)

      • Amazona November 16, 2022 / 1:39 pm

        BUT….BUT….BUT disappearing student loan debt and minimum wages and taking care of people !!!!!!!

      • Mark Noonan November 16, 2022 / 11:03 pm

        Casper,

        Yes, I know you look after yourself and those in your immediate orbit. I’ve no doubt that with your close family and friends you’re one hell of a swell chap.

        But you *will not* agree to securing the border in any meaningful sense. And in your refusal to do your duty (your manly duty, BTW) regarding the border you are abetting the murder, rape and robbery of untold numbers of poor, defenseless people. You will spin 10,000 reasons as to why you won’t or make absurd claims that it is secure or say that the real evil isn’t that a girl was raped by her coyote but that we don’t grant her a green card once her rapist deposits her across the border. And it all comes down to you don’t care. The illegals being trafficked across our border in the modern slave trade can’t hurt you – and you can’t benefit from them. So they are not in your mind. This is what I mean by your side being barbarians. Our side does care. We know it is grossly unfair what is happening to those people and to our own people displaced by uncontrolled illegal migration and we want it stopped. Because we are civilized. And because we are civilized we want our society to be governed by the organizing principles of our beliefs – one of the chief of which is that there must be the Rule of Law. Doesn’t matter why the law was made. Doesn’t matter if the law is good, bad or indifferent: if it is the law then it is the law. Enforce it until by legal means it is changed – nobody passed a law saying that every Dick and Jane who shows up claiming asylum gets to stay while we work it out. The law says you can’t do that and so all civilized people say, “you can’t do that.” Barbarians say, “why the f*** do I care what the law says? I just want it this way right now.”

        And as for things like unions – whatever they were in the past, today they’re almost entirely public sector unions which are a conspiracy against the people – so, once again, no concern for law or the people or family or anything…just grab what you can and f*** everyone else.

      • Amazona November 17, 2022 / 12:12 am

        Speaking of slavery—isn’t it defined as the ownership of a human being?

        And doesn’t that clearly illustrate the belief system of the pro-“choice” crowd? It’s “yes, this is another human being but I own it and can pass a death sentence on it if I feel like it”.

        And the guy smugly preening in his imagined moral superiority because he took care of the few people closest to him is just fine with owning other human beings, and killing them, as long as there is enough distance between him and this barbarity to let him pretend there is only one person involved in the equation and she has every right to kill a human being she owns.

      • Cluster November 16, 2022 / 9:26 am

        Casper’s getting quite philosophical with us now, and wants a definition of manhood lol. I’m thinking the entire Democrat Party could benefit from understanding more what manhood encompasses. Aside from what Mark said, which is spot on, manhood also entails moral clarity. There exists in this world right vs wrong, and manhood requires knowing the difference and defending what is right. Speaking of unborn children as a “choice” is wrong. Not properly educating our children to compete in this world is wrong, Using the color of someones skin as a political wedge, is wrong. These are just a few examples where men have lost their moral clarity (in my opinion). Defending the right is not always popular and seldom is, but it’s incumbent upon strong men (and women) to not falter in their defense. And to Mark’s point, manhood definitely includes protecting the women and children with their life and to always pursue a better and more prosperous future.

        Civilization is just an extension of the priorities of men. If they value Faith, God, and Family then there is order and calm. If they value pursuits of political factions then there will be chaos and unrest.

      • Retired Spook November 16, 2022 / 11:21 am

        manhood definitely includes protecting the women and children with their life and to always pursue a better and more prosperous future.

        Early in the Obama administration polls showed for the first time EVER that the majority of Americans believed their children would not be as free and prosperous as they have been. THAT’S what the Democrat Party offers.

        It sounds like Casper is not really a Liberal, at least not in the sense that we typically think of Liberals. He’s in the nebulous group that lives his life as a Conservative, but pays lip service to the Leftist cause, maybe because it makes him feel good about himself or gets more people to like him, or …… who knows?

      • Amazona November 16, 2022 / 1:59 pm

        Actually, I think casper has admitted to being a Liberal, while evidently missing the irony of using the word “liberal” to describe a wholly illiberal and intolerant political system based on consolidation of power in the hands of the few and imposing the power of the collective.

      • Cluster November 16, 2022 / 12:06 pm

        I will also point out that governing a country with moral clarity is a lot like raising a family, and all you need to do is compare the Trump family to the Biden family to see the stark contrast. The Trump children are a healthy, loving, productive, functioning family. The Biden’s?

        And when Trump called the illegal immigrants rapists, criminals, drug traffickers, and possibly some good people mixed in … that’s unpopular moral clarity. That’s not pandering. That’s truth.

      • Retired Spook November 16, 2022 / 11:24 pm

        And as for things like unions – whatever they were in the past, today they’re almost entirely public sector unions which are a conspiracy against the people

        I can’t find it now, but there used to be a video on YouTube of a teacher’s union leader speaking before a large group of teachers. He said their main reason for existing was for political power and had nothing to do with teaching kids. I’m sure Casper has seen it. I’ve posted it on this blog multiple times.

      • Amazona November 17, 2022 / 12:06 am

        Seen it, hell. He probably voted for the guy

    • Amazona November 16, 2022 / 12:13 pm

      The only way in which I could think of anything to do with casper as ‘scary” would be if I had at some time been traumatized by the Pillsbury Dough Boy

  15. jdge1 November 16, 2022 / 1:10 am

    The US is not the only entity that is in danger of succumbing to the evils of communism.

    The Catholic Church is neck deep in many illegal and disturbing actions including; financial corruption like the infamous “London apartment” deal, which cost the Vatican hundreds of millions of euros, investments in pharmaceutical companies that produced abortifacients and contraceptives, contrary to the Church’s moral doctrine, embezzlement by high-ranking cardinals and officials, and money laundering conducted by the Secretariat of State and the Vatican Bank.

    Though God has said; “The gates of hell shall not prevail against it” (the church), I do not believe he was referring to the institution, which is in rapid decline from within at all levels, but rather the people, the body and heart of the church.

    Our Blessed Mother has repeatedly stated in Her many appearances; it will only be through Her intercession that we can gain the mercy of God and requests many prayers.

    We see corruption in every corner of society, including the highest levels of federal & state government, mega corporations using illegal and unfair practices, the astounding increase of criminal activity in our streets, the willful destruction of the unborn, and the proliferation of lies from the media. The banking, medical and education institutions are perverse with fraud & immorality.

    If anyone wonders why we in such a fallen state, they need look no further than society turning away from God. Anyone who thinks the answers to our problems can be solved without God, is a dammed fool.

    • Cluster November 16, 2022 / 9:33 am

      In the presence of God, there is order. In His absence, there is chaos. And that is abundantly clear.

    • Amazona November 16, 2022 / 2:03 pm

      I think all of our institutions are illustrating the sad reality that when any membership is made up of people from the human gene pool it is going to have elements of moral weakness and even overt corruption.

      This is why I always focus on the internal structures of an organization, its core principles, and much less on how well these principles might be put into play by its current representatives.

  16. Cluster November 16, 2022 / 10:14 am

    So Trump is running again. I’m not sure what to think about this. It’s not the antics of Trump that wears me out, but the reaction from the emotionally challenged left that is so tiring. The Left’s obsession with Trump and his every word is disturbing.

  17. Amazona November 16, 2022 / 1:49 pm

    In his introduction to his new book, “Lies My Gov’t Told Me” Dr. Robert Malone writes: (emphasis mine)

    Though the book, and this forward, primarily address the Covid panic, I think the comments on the “…cognitive dissonance, of psychological pain, that often occurs when encountering facts or ideas that are different from the ones which we have relied upon in the past ” relate just as well to the sometimes painful process of reevaluating political belief systems and allegiances.

    Humans perceive and interpret the world by comparing the information which they receive through their senses to internal models of reality. Our conscious mind does not directly know reality. It holds a model of what it believes to be true, and then compares incoming information to this model. Psychological experiments involving hypnosis have demonstrated that if our internal models of reality are shaped to deny the possibility of an existing object, we will actually not be able to “see” that which is demonstrably present in the stream of photons that our eyes detect or the audio waves that our ears hear. In other words, we can only see that which we believe exists, that which is consistent with our own personal model of reality.

    The key challenge for any person who seeks to make sense out of the confusing and often mesmerizing flow of information bombarding us during the COVID crisis is to develop an extended internal model of the world which can help their own mind process all of this. Unless steeped in the world of biowarfare, pathogen bioengineering, psychological operations, and the “intelligence community” (as I have been), it is normal for humans to instinctively recoil from the possibility that SARS-CoV-2 is an engineered pathogen, that the COVID crisis could have been exploited to advance the economic and political interests of a small group of people, or that there may be those who support the concept of global depopulation or culling of “useless eaters.” For most of us, such possibilities are so far from our internal models of the world (and of Judeo-Christian ethics) that we immediately, reflexively reject them.

    This book is designed to help you to recognize that the coronavirus narrative that has been so actively promoted over the last three years is not the only model for understanding the present and predicting the future, but rather one of many alternative models, one that is being heavily promoted by people and organizations who have an angle and vast resources. People and organizations with a conflict of interest, one way or another. Furthermore, this book is intended to serve as a first draft of an alternative dissenting version of history, as a recitation of the lies and harms that have been inflicted on all of us, and a means to help you make sense out of the bewildering array of lived events. My hope is that it will also help us all process our collective experiences, and will help us to derive lessons and identify actions that we might take to move towards a better future, informed by this global experience which we have all shared.

    I believe that this sense of cognitive dissonance, of psychological pain, that often occurs when encountering facts or ideas that are different from the ones which we have relied upon in the past (and have previously employed to make sense of the stream of the present) can be a signpost pointing towards an opportunity for personal growth. However, one thing that we have become acutely and very personally aware of is that there seems to be a movement in modern society to avoid information, theories, or opinions that trigger cognitive dissonance and the associated psychological pain. Often associated with terms such as “cancel culture,” “virtue signaling,” and “wokeism,” this movement appears to have manifested as a belief system which holds that both individuals as well as the collective body politic have a fundamental right to intellectual protection, to not encounter unpleasant thoughts, information, or ideas that are inconsistent with their internal model of reality. These are the intellectual roots which nurture censorship, denialism, and the weaponized gaslighting, defamation, and slander that many have experienced, as well as the idea that anything which causes individuals to lose faith in their government constitutes domestic terrorism and should be treated as such. There is a long and rich human history of punishment by death for such dissident thought crimes. I suggest that these behaviors and actions are among the ugliest manifestations of the unpleasant tribal human tendency to reject those who are willing to speak inconvenient truths, and that this tendency has always been behind the dark reactionary aspect of common processes by which scientific and medical knowledge advance. Awareness of this phenomenon is not something just recently discovered. It extends back even before Galileo Galilei and the Roman Catholic Inquisition to at least the fourth century BC, and probably further beyond that into the mists of time.

    • Retired Spook November 16, 2022 / 5:43 pm

      or that there may be those who support the concept of global depopulation or culling of “useless eaters.”

      Dovetails with what I said earlier.

      • Amazona November 16, 2022 / 6:05 pm

        I’ve noticed the lack of enthusiasm for self-culling. Like the rest of Leftist “solutions” this is only for other people.

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