Trump’s Opponents Miss the Point. Again.

Over on Truth Social, Trump made a statement asking if we should overturn the 2020 result. This has made lot of people very angry – with many saying it is disqualifying for any future office.

To be sure, it is an amazing thing for a former President to say. But I cannot see how it is a morally wrong thing to say.

For the sake of argument, let’s say that there was no voter fraud in 2020. Let us further stipulate that the laptop story would not have altered the result. In other words, lets pretend that it still would have all come out the same, laptop or no laptop. You are still left with the fact that elements of the Department of Justice conspired with Big Tech and the MSM to hide a story which would have been devastating to the Democrat candidate. This is election interference writ as large as you can write it. What it is saying is that if the people want the “wrong” candidate, then the top echelons of the American Ruling Class will conspire together to do whatever they think necessary to thwart the will of the people. As a side note, please remember that the DOJ had the laptop in 2019; this means they also interfered with the 2020 Democrat primary. The Democrats were not able to properly assess their candidates because the DOJ withheld crucial information from them.

Hate to break it to you, but a Republic cannot survive with that sort of thing going on. Even assuming that this time it didn’t work, the mere fact that such entities would make the attempt proves that the Constitution – the rule of law, itself – is a dead letter in the United States

There is no mechanism in American law for a do-over on elections. Once the result is entered into the books, it is what it is. So, Trump’s call for a re-vote or what have you is going nowhere even if the overwhelming majority would like it. But what we cannot do – what we dare not allow – is for this to go unanswered. Even if you’re willing to move on from Trump, you have no assurance that the same and worse won’t be done to the next candidate. We already know that people in high positions in Congress, the bureaucracy and the MSM are willing to assert the most fabulous lies about their opponents – now we know that those in charge of law enforcement are willing to ignore the law and help the liars make the lies stick. If they get away with this, they will do it again. Anyone running for office who doesn’t meet Ruling Class approval will simply be destroyed. So, while Trump’s call for a re-vote can’t happen, something must be done. People must go to jail. People must lose money. The victim must be compensated.

This is the turning point. There is no going back from this. If this sort of thing is allowed to happen unchallenged, then our votes will become worthless…our candidates will be destroyed, or will merely be tools of the Ruling Class from the get-go. What we, the people, may want, will no longer matter…we’ll get what the Ruling Class wants.

But it won’t just end with our corrupt and stupid Ruling Class living forever. That is what the Roman Ruling Class thought once they had disposed of the Gracchi. The people’s champion was destroyed and the people to all appearances knuckled under…and then once fine day Octavian, Antony and Lepidus issues proscriptions of hundreds of members of the Ruling Class and the people were entirely indifferent. What I’m saying is that if the people cannot elect their champions, then they will passively support the person who kills the people who destroyed their champions. If the law is dead and its just a competition to see who can hold power, then the winner of that power struggle is invariably the person most willing to kill those the people hate.

Just a cautionary word. I hope people figure this out fast – because it is either some DOJ people doing 20 years, or it is eventual civil war followed by a tyrant.

77 thoughts on “Trump’s Opponents Miss the Point. Again.

  1. casper3031 December 4, 2022 / 10:21 pm

    So tell me Mark, what laws were broken? Please be specific. According To Matt Taibbi both campaigns requested that certain things be taken off Twitter. Did both campaigns break the law.

    It also seem odd that you are upset that the MSM who you are constantly claiming to tell nothing but lies didn’t cover a story the way you think they should have. Personally , I wish the MSM had covered some of the Trump scandals far more than they did. Tax, fraud, sexual assault, financial connections with various countries, etc, should have all been covered far better.

    • Mark Noonan December 4, 2022 / 11:26 pm

      Leave it to you to take the Ruling Class toady position. Geesh: just once break free from it! Supposing there was no law about it – that would make it ok with you? FFS do you really think this won’t be used against anyone the Ruling Class wants to squash?

      Anyways, it is against the law: 18 US Code 595:

      Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

      And there are lots of other laws; campaign finance laws, disclosure laws, laws prohibiting malfeasance by officials, etc, etc, etc. Easy to nail 20 years on anyone involved in this.

      As for Trump’s scandals – they were covered endlessly AND THEY WERE ALL LIES. Everything you believe bad about Trump, Casper, is a lie – either made up out of whole cloth, or so hideously distorted that it might as well be made up. But this is also not relevant to the issue. Trump is not relevant to this particular issue. The issue is that agents of the government conspired with Big Tech and the MSM to interfere in a political campaign – dammit, man: they even interfered with your Democrat primary! Doesn’t that bother you at all? Are you that much of a sheep?

      • Retired Spook December 4, 2022 / 11:43 pm

        As for Trump’s scandals – they were covered endlessly AND THEY WERE ALL LIES.

        Snopes, of all organizations, did a pretty in-depth analysis of the lies told about Trump.

        I wish the MSM had covered some of the Trump scandals far more than they did. Tax, fraud, sexual assault, financial connections with various countries, etc, should have all been covered far better.

        Trump was under virtually constant audit by the IRS. If the Justice Dept. and the IRS could have found something to prosecute Trump on you can bet your ass they would have. Same with financial connections with foreign countries and sexual assault.

      • Amazona December 5, 2022 / 9:12 am

        You don’t really expect casper to read, or process, that lengthy article illustrating the ways that information derogatory to Trump has been invented or manipulated, do you?

      • casper3031 December 5, 2022 / 2:04 am

        First of all, the law you referenced has to do with people working for the government. Biden was a private citizen at the time. Trump however wasn’t, ,so anything he did would fall under this law. That said, it seems like a pretty minor reason to throw out the Constitution.

      • Amazona December 5, 2022 / 9:15 am

        it seems like a pretty minor reason to throw out the Constitution.

        Huh? Casper, your descent into dementia is starting to rival that of Joe Biden.

      • Amazona December 5, 2022 / 9:50 am

        The last time I saw any government official trying to throw out the Constitution was when the J6 committee was trying to criminalize the Constitutionally protected rights to free speech and assembly.

        No, I correct myself. I see it all the time, as President Biden* keeps writing laws himself, without the input or oversight much less participation of Congress. But he learned from the best, as Obama used to do the same thing. And when President Trump overturned Obama’s unconstitutional Executive Orders the Left howled that HE was a dictator.

      • Mark Noonan December 5, 2022 / 11:29 am

        You’re completely hopeless, Casper.

        I didn’t even mention Joe Biden or his team. Did I say that Joe Biden conspired with the Big Tech? No: I said the DOJ conspired with Big Tech. I happen to think that Joe Biden and his team did as well, but that isn’t nearly as outrageous as the DOJ doing it…because the DOJ doing it means the end of liberty for all Americans.

        But, you will refuse to understand it…until, as Solzhenitsyn said of your type, “they hiss at you, ‘you’re under arrest!'”.

      • casper3031 December 5, 2022 / 2:11 am

        The article you linked to had to do with memes about Trump’s personality rather than his crimes. It also was written in 2017 before his two impeachments.

      • Amazona December 5, 2022 / 9:19 am

        Ah, I see we are back to the “crimes” whine again. So what “crimes” were committed?

        Not alleged, casper, but proved to be committed. Allegations and accusations, particularly from the rabid Left, are meaningless without context and proof. And the impeachments were jokes, bizarre and failed efforts to prove nefarious behavior that simply never occurred. They were political theater, using (and wasting) the time of the House as well as taxpayer money, to use Congress as a bludgeon against a political opponent of the majority party.

      • Amazona December 5, 2022 / 9:40 am

        Imagine, casper, if any of the teachers who thought you were a bumbling doofus or any of the parents upset at the lies you were teaching their children claimed that you were paying special attention to marginalized children because they were more impressionable and vulnerable to your inappropriate and criminal attentions. Imagine the ease with which your playing with the kids, doing your lip syncing as one example, was portrayed as part of a grooming effort on your part.

        Accusations are easy, and unfortunately to a certain mentality all that is necessary. And to this kind of mentality, the fact that every single accusation against Trump has been thoroughly investigated—and disproved—is meaningless. People like you will never give up the cheap thrill of ruminating over every salacious accusation, lovingly bringing them back up to relish the way they satisfied your need to judge and hate, like a cow chewing its cud.

        What is funny is that in this case, the Trump haters are also Biden defenders, which puts you in a very strange position. While you howl that TRUMP LIED !!! you have to live with the ongoing cascade of lies told almost daily by Biden. While you screech about the invented quid pro quo of Trump, vis-a-vis Ukraine, we have video of Biden bragging about using the might and power of his position as Vide President of the United States to shut down an investigation of his son’s criminal activities in that same country—activities based on his own corrupt funneling of billions of taxpayer dollars into Ukraine so they could “disappear”.

        It’s one thing to brand yourself as blind hater wholly dependent on lies to support your pathology, but even worse to be a blatant hypocrite at the same time.

      • Retired Spook December 5, 2022 / 9:07 am

        It also was written in 2017 before his two impeachments.

        The establishment of both parties and the media started lying about Trump a couple of years before that, which was my point. Many of the people lying about him, particularly in the media, were his friends until he decided to run for President and upset the apple cart. I’m not sure how you would investigate him more as you suggest. He’s the most investigated public figure in my lifetime, possibly ever. That says to me the allegations were phony and the investigations were phony. BTW, the two impeachments were phony too.

      • casper3031 December 5, 2022 / 1:30 pm

        I’m glad you enjoyed the lipsyns. They were a lot of fun to make and it did give a creative outlet for a lot of kids over the years. I still keep in touch with a number of former students and teachers. I’m happy that I made positive impact on their lives.

      • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 7:46 am

        I’m glad you enjoyed the lipsyncs.

        This is a great example of your tendency to see only what pleases you even if it is completely false. I never said I enjoyed the lipsyncs I didn’t even watch any of them, just read about them on the web site. I just thought it was kind of you to make these kids feel important, even if you did it at least partly so you could feel important.

    • casper3031 December 5, 2022 / 1:25 pm

      ” I said the DOJ conspired with Big Tech.”

      This was the DOJ headed by Barr, appointed by Trump. With a FBI head also appointed by Trump. Says something the people Trump appointed.

      • Retired Spook December 5, 2022 / 1:44 pm

        Says something [about] the people Trump appointed.

        Fair point, but it says even more about the depth and toxicity of the Swamp.

      • Cluster December 5, 2022 / 2:36 pm

        Bill Barr and Chris Wray are two of the worst swamp members in the world. Barr was disloyal and undermined his boss every opportunity he had, and Chris Wray is a documented liar. In other words, they are the perfect Democrats.

        It’s reported that 75% of the Twitter staff has been fired and the site is running along just fine. We need to do the same thing at the Federal Government.

      • Mark Noonan December 6, 2022 / 4:19 am

        And you still don’t see the problem here – you’ve actually got a chance to catch a lot of Republicans in the net…but getting the Bad Orange Man trumps all.

        Our ability to govern ourselves is at stake here, Casper – if the Ruling Class can conspire together to eliminate one person, they can eliminate any person.

        Do you really think they won’t come after you? That you will always be so cutting edge Woke that you’ll never get ground up? Are you really wiling to place your safety and that of your friends and family in the hands of people who don’t know you, don’t care about you and may find it expedient to destroy you?

      • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 7:56 am

        Says something the people Trump appointed.

        I think both Wray and Barr are examples of the Peter Principle, doing good work until expected to exceed their prior accomplishments. Both were appointed at least one level above their competence. The problem with appointments like this is that they have to be based on prior achievement and it’s impossible to know if the appointees can rise to the challenges of positions higher than those they have occupied. I think both Wray and Barr probably have the basic ability, they just don’t have the backbones to stand up to the pressures of public opinion—or what the Left tells them is the public opinion—so they caved.

        And even Barr at his worst has been infinitely better than Garland or his Obama predecessors. But Trump’s choices were mistakes, while Obama got what he wanted.

  2. Cluster December 5, 2022 / 9:12 am

    Casper has really become a valuable resource to the blog … being such an excellent example of the type of voter the Democrats have groomed. Every political thought Casper has is filtered through a simple binary political lens of Democrats good, Republicans bad. And any action or non action from a Democrat will be excused and dismissed because of the underlying belief that Democrats are good. Period, that’s all the intellectual effort given. Example, Mark cites the specific law when asked, and Casper simply dismisses it by saying that it only applies to government officials, as if a former VP and Presidential candidate is not a government official. Secondly Casper wishes Trumps crimes were investigated more, completely ignoring the on going 6 year investigation into everything Trump led by every government agency possible.

    Here’s a fact that people like Casper, Fielding and Forty need to understand and it is what separates us. If Donald Trump Jr did anything remotely close to what Hunter did, complete with pictures of drug fueled sex parties involving underage girls and emails detailing 10% cash to the big guy from foreign countries – there is no way I would support Trump and neither would any conservative. Furthermore, if the GOP acted like Pelosi Democrats and tore up the state of union address, cheated in elections, construed absurd allegations of racism, and encouraged riots throughout the country, I would never support the GOP. In fact, my support for the GOP is tenuous because most of them do aid and abet the corrupt ruling class apparatus. Conservatives on the whole, are simply better people. More honest, more clear thinking, and much more willing to hold people accountable. Democrats are confused submissive sheep.

  3. Cluster December 5, 2022 / 9:22 am

    Here’s a good example of the cold civil war we are currently in …

    Incredible moment angry mom dresses down Ohio police officer she caught high-fiving a white nationalist outside a drag queen storytime for children event where members of far right groups turned up with guns and tactical gear … A police officer was reprimanded by the mother of a gay child after he was spotted hi-fiving a member of a far-right protest group

    So the Proud Boys were protesting the sexualizing of young children when one of them hi fived a police officer. This evidently enraged a “mother” of a “gay child”. I want to know how the mother knows her child is gay. The crime here is not the protest, nor the gesture of goodwill between the officer and the proud boy. The crime here is believing that children are sexual beings. THEY ARE NOT. And any parent who succumbs to this belief, should not be a parent.

    • Amazona December 5, 2022 / 9:45 am

      If this woman is branding a very young child as gay that is proof of child abuse.

      As for being a “white nationalist”, so what? I’m a white nationalist. I’m so white I almost glow in the dark, and I am a proud nationalist, convinced that I live in the best country in the world. The efforts of the Left to make this into “white supremacy? is disgusting. It’s an indictment of both intellect and character to accept the semantic manipulation of the Left at face value.

      • Cluster December 5, 2022 / 10:06 am

        I too am white and a nationalist. And proud of it.

  4. Cluster December 5, 2022 / 10:07 am

    I feel bad for all of those who think Walker will win the GA run off tomorrow. That’s already been determined.

  5. Amazona December 5, 2022 / 10:14 am

    Dr. Robert Malone has a great article by a guest author, Christian Nix

  6. Amazona December 5, 2022 / 11:00 am

    what we cannot do – what we dare not allow – is for this to go unanswered. Even if you’re willing to move on from Trump, you have no assurance that the same and worse won’t be done to the next candidate.

    I’m still naive enough to be surprised at the blatancy of the Left as they ferociously fight to retain the elements that make cheating so easy. They don’t even try to hide their determination to shut down any reform effort.

    That’s why I, the usual vociferous supporter of state sovereignty, think we need a federal standard for elections.

    Election Day is statutorily set by the U.S. government as “the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November”, yet states are arbitrarily extending this far beyond this time frame. They started by extending the time prior to Election Day in which votes can be cast, and recently have extended it beyond Election Day, accepting votes cast after midnight of that day.

    I don’t see a problem in a properly passed Congressional law stating that this is the only Election Day for the presidency. There can be a short period of time allowing for the receipt of absentee ballots, which would have to be issued only to those requesting them, for a small number of accepted reasons.

    If the demand is strident enough for remote voting, then I suggest that ballots be sent only to people who request them, and that they be accepted only in select and supervised drop boxes on Election Day—or, possibly including the Monday before Election Day. The current practice of mass mailing of ballots to everyone on the registration rolls is irresponsible and a recipe for fraud. I’d keep the Post Office out of voting. Would there be people who couldn’t physically get to a drop box? Sure. This is where active participation by citizens is important, as every precinct could have teams consisting of a representative from each party who would pick up these ballots.

    Ballots lacking the required information, such as signatures, will not be counted. Period. We need to have our officials elected by people competent enough to follow basic directions. And in-person voting has to require a photo ID

    I’m talking about a system that is far more demanding that the one we have now. I’m talking about the need to have a representative of each party go to nursing homes and hospitals to collect ballots from individuals, not from the nursing station, so there is at least an effort to make sure that individuals are actually casting the ballots and that they are not just filled out by the staff. Other than this, no ballot harvesting. There is no problem that can’t be solved. If a person is taken sick or is injured and can’t vote in person, there can be a special affidavit available at hospitals stating the timing of the illness or accident so a special ballot can be issued. Ditto for those sick at home.

    But I’m sick and tired of the whine that voting should be made as easy as possible, for people who just don’t want to be bothered with the hassle of actually participating in the process. The most important job we have as citizens is to elect our representatives and president, and it should be taken much more seriously. The way this responsibility has been trivialized has led to the mess our elections now represent.

    There has to be a way to tighten up the process and mitigate the possible avenues for fraud. And every solution is going to mean more responsibility for every voter. That seems like a small price to pay for elections that actually mean something.

    • Cluster December 5, 2022 / 8:58 pm

      I agree with all that. Limited mail in balloting with stricter oversight and photo ID absolutely required. I would also hold the election over two days; Friday and Saturday, and maybe even make that Friday a national paid holiday and of course use all paper ballots. All mail in voting would need to be received Friday, no exceptions, with all those ballots being counted early Saturday morning. All final results would be known Saturday evening. Also, universal mail in voting, ballot harvesting, and drop boxes would all be all illegal.

    • Mark Noonan December 6, 2022 / 4:26 am

      My larger worry is that we’re running out of time – that we’re in danger of as early as 2024 or 2028 having a Democrat President and Congress who will pack the Court and just get whatever the heck ruling they want on any issue. One person I see on Twitter figures our best strategy is to retreat to where we do have power and enact the laws to protect ourselves and raise up a generation of people like us – and that is a good idea as far as it goes…but we must retain at least a finger of power at the federal level or we’re toast. Only the 50/50 Senate spared us the worst aspects of the past two years. We’ll have the House now (it looks like Warnock will get the Democrats to 51 in the Senate tomorrow – hope I’m wrong but the stars seem to be aligning for a narrow Warnock win) and so for the next two years we’ll also be safe. We simply must keep that going – and we do have a good shot at a Senate majority in 2024 even if we lose the White House, so that is a bit of a relief…but time goes on and the Democrat ability to game the system simply improves with each cycle. And huge numbers of people still believe the MSM.

      This is why I think our response to Twittergate is so important…and so far hardly any on the GOP are seeing the issue as it really is: that we must respond forcefully to the DOJ conspiring with the MSM and Big Tech. A House hearing will not do the trick..we need to start zeroing out some budgets and holding spending hostage to the appointment of a special counsel acceptable to us.

  7. Amazona December 5, 2022 / 11:18 am

    Here’s something else to ruin your day.

    BTW, our youth have already been conditioned to accept this. When I talked to two teenagers about the ability to track the identities of every person they communicated with on various online sites, they were unconcerned. Their attitude was that, because they weren’t doing anything wrong, it didn’t matter.

    I asked if either had ever posted a photo of him wearing a MAGA hat, and they both said yes. So what if the government decides to go after every Trump supporter?

    To me, the scariest thing was when I said something about political opponents being sent to gulags, and they both lit up and said that would be cool. It turns out that the concept of gulags has been sanitized and altered via video games, to represent a high level of achievement, where high achievers face off against each other. It’s now a symbol of being superior in some games.

    • Cluster December 5, 2022 / 11:30 am

      I wonder why anyone would succumb to that kind of control. Death is much preferable.

    • Mark Noonan December 5, 2022 / 11:36 am

      The kids are clever – who amongst us oldsters hasn’t had a ten year old show us something about a “smart” device that we had no clue about? – but they literally know nothing. And remember you barely need to be literate or numerate to navigate the virtual world.

      And today’s kids have grown up with it…so, yeah, it doesn’t really bother them and they don’t know where it can lead because they don’t know history. Getting control of the school boards really is crucial…because this is a problem that can be fixed starting next school year and just 12 years later we start getting adults who know.

  8. Cluster December 5, 2022 / 11:28 am

    Let this sink in …

    Twitter has done more to stop child exploitation in the last month than probably the last ten years.”

    I don’t think conservatives fully understand the depth of depravity we are up against. Democrats and those in the Ruling Class have run rough shod over children, working class Americans, and decent people everywhere in their maniacal desire for power and money. These are sub human people.

  9. Cluster December 5, 2022 / 11:40 am

    Or how about this ???

    Movie Director James Cameron: Testosterone ‘A Toxin’ That Men Should ‘Work Out Of’ Their ‘System’

    From the appearances of most Democrat men, I can attest that they definitely think testosterone is toxic. They willingly marginalize themselves and that’s the way the government wants it. Compliance. I can guarantee you that governments around the world want more Caspers and less Clusters. I’ll keep my testosterone, thank you very much.

  10. Cluster December 5, 2022 / 2:38 pm

    It’s time to talk about the obvious – Joe Biden ran a multi million dollar influence peddling ring as Vice President of the United States and greatly enriched himself and his family as a result. Time to impeach.

    • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 8:01 am

      Time to impeach. and then………?

      Actually, I’m fine with an impeachment hearing, if it is handled without the circus atmosphere of the Dem Star Chamber antics, if it serves the purpose of illustrating not just the corruption and abuses of power of Biden (and by extension Obama, who was either complicit in all this or painfully stupid) and John Kerry) but the complicity and corruption of the Agenda Media. Basically, we need to impeach that entire system.

      Just so we understand the end goal would not be to replace Biden. Let the Dems kick him out, but I don’t think we should be responsible for having a President Harris.

      • Cluster December 6, 2022 / 8:56 am

        I agree with that but we have to impeach. The Biden crime families antics makes Watergate look like a jaywalking offense, and even puts the Clintons to shame. The Biden’s were selling influence and access to Americas resources for personal profit. Not only impeach but imprison.

    • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 8:12 am

      I’ve wondered the same thing. While it’s hard to imagine a callous effort to undermine our country by purposely crippling many of our youth and affecting the fertility of so many others, we do have to remember that this is still less violent than other efforts by the Left to control populations. Just because the American Left has been relatively benign, compared to its international cousins, doesn’t mean it doesn’t share the same genetics and ideology.

      So I would ask what would be the advantage to the Left in having a United States in, say, 2035 with a large proportion of what would ordinarily be its most productive generation either dead or disabled due to health conditions caused by the drugs. Would there be any advantage to the Left in having a U.S. military severely understaffed with so many of those in the age group that would ordinarily provide its leadership equally damaged or dead, with much of the rest consisting of dysfunctional people playacting at being different genders or at being competent in fields like Special Forces?

      The inherent strengths of this nation have protected it from submission to complete Leftism, but we have also seen the Left working very hard to destabilize this country—its economy, its culture and its foundation of Constitutional governance. It’s not hard to see this government-sponsored, government-funded, government-mandated and government-enforced drug disaster as just the next step.

  11. Cluster December 6, 2022 / 8:53 am

    So Casper made this comment the other day – “That said, it seems like a pretty minor reason to throw out the Constitution.” – to which I had to scratch my head but this morning I learned where it came from … Donald Trump

    Evidently Trump made the remark the other day in light of the Twitter revelations on Hunter’s lap top. Now, most people who lead normal lives never heard the remark or even paid attention to it, and rational people who understand Trump, know that the comment was made in jest considering the Democrats dirty play, BUT the Democrats who hang on every syllable Trump utters have gone into full blown panic. MSNBC was out yesterday making all RINO GOPer’s denounce the “outrageous” remarks and of course losers like Romney and Graham willingly complied. You know, because they are such statesman.

    We are dealing with children

    • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 12:38 pm

      “throw out the Constitution” sounds like, well, throwing out the entire Constitution, and seeing Libs howling about it is pretty funny given their support for having a branch of Congress trying to criminalize freedom of speech and assembly and for just dumping the 2md Amendment. They’re really not too thrilled about the whole Bill of Rights, especially that pesky 10th Amendment. They slobbered all over Ruth Bader Ginsberg even after she said that if she were advising a nation on writing a new constitution she would not recommend basing it on ours. As a matter of fact, they even refer to people whose political views are based on allegiance to our Constitution as “domestic terrorists”. But let Trump toss out a silly comment and suddenly they are fiercely defensive of the Constitution.

    • casper3031 December 6, 2022 / 4:24 pm

      Here is Trump’s post.

      “Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”

      Certainly doesn’t sound like he’s joking.

      “81 million votes, and yet I never see a Biden t shirt, hat, flag, or yard sign. The visible support of 81 million voters (the most in US history) is non existent. Doesn’t that seem odd???”

      That’s because we aren’t part of a cult. I never owned an Obama flag or any other flag for a politician either. I do see Biden bumper stickers from time to time, but there isn’t any reason to be campaigning two years after the election.

      As for the Arizona election, I have a number of friends living in Arizona who voted for Hobbs. Lake is another sore loser.

      • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 7:16 pm

        He offered his opinion that a fraud of this magnitude, which fundamentally violates the foundational principles of our government and its nature, should allow for the termination of rules and/or articles. He did not suggest that we “throw out” the whole Constitution, but said that a rule or an article within the Constitution should not be considered inviolable if it enables this kind of gross attack on the electoral process, which is of course an attack on the fundamental structure of our democratic republic. He did not suggest that this happen. He did not advocate for it. He did not demand it. He merely offered his opinion that a rule or article within the Constitution that allows this kind of takeover of our government should not be allowed to stand.

        Funniest thing, but freedom of opinion is part of freedom of speech.

        And of course the context of the comment is that there should be recourse for dealing with an election so riddled with corruption at all levels of government and media and so unrelated to the concept of allowing citizens to choose their leaders based on knowledge of crucial information. His point is that our Constitution does not have such recourse built into it, meaning that this kind of blatant abuse of power and subversion of our system must either be accepted or we should consider finding a way that is not in the Constitution to deal with it.

        I know, your media masters stopped far short of rational analysis of what he said, disliking the context because it is such an indictment of the validity of the Biden presidency. Naturally you and your kind focus on the few words that can be pointed at with such alarm and indignation (as if we won’t remember your attacks on the Constitution, or the presidency).

        You wore an Obama necktie! Don’t give us any crap about the Obama cult being anything but a personality cult. We lived through it. We saw the magazines lined up in stores with blaring headlines: OBAMA—THE ONE WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR !!! We saw the squealing mobs reminiscent of Beatlemania. We saw women swooning at his feet in his speeches. We were treated to fawning articles about Michelle, who looked like a linebacker stomping on ants when she crossed a stage, as “the most elegant First Lady since Jackie Kennedy”. I can never tell if you are a stone-cold liar or just lost in your befuddled delusions, but your lack of a grip on reality is more and more obvious.

        And for a joke of a teacher who had no respect in his hometown you sure brag a lot about your large “number of friends” in every locale that we discuss. But it would come as no surprise that anyone who did consider you a friend would be the kind of brain-dead lemming who would vote for Hobbs.

      • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 7:40 pm

        The caspers of this country actually advocate for the illegal act of falsely certifying vote tallies known to be inaccurate. Actually, they’re fine with the whole scenario—-the weaponization of the FBI to influence a presidential election by committing perjury to get bogus warrants to spy on American citizens hoping to find something to use against them or against Trump, the collusion with and payment of foreign agents from both Russia and the UK to concoct a fake dossier to try to smear a presidential candidate, the efforts of some including some in Congress to overturn the election by convincing electoral college delegates to not vote for the candidate who won their states’ votes, the #RESIST movement which openly stated its intent to thwart every effort of President Trump to do the job he was elected to do, even the abuse of Congressional power in the two bogus impeachment hearings.

        When the American Left openly tried to subvert a presidential election and then impede the ability of a duly elected president to do his job, the caspers of this country cheered them on. We have only had one attempted insurrection in this country in the past century, and it was the American Left’s effort to overthrow the Trump presidency and assume its powers, and the caspers thought that was just great.

        And now he postures as having the heebie-jeebies about a Trump comment that the Constitution does not offer adequate protections against a power grab that has thrust this nation into chaos and crisis, as the Left struggles to finalize its grip on the nation. A Left which, by the way, has as its core tenet contempt for the Constitution the fakes and phonies are now posturing as tearfully defending.

      • Cluster December 7, 2022 / 9:59 am

        Casper claims he’s not part of a cult hahahahahahahahahaha

        There are none so blind than those who refuse to see. And he had friends that voted for Katie Hobbs LMAO.

      • Amazona December 7, 2022 / 11:31 am

        casper was a fish out of water in conservative Casper, Wyoming, but he sounds like he’s happily burrowed in like a tick in uber-Liberal corrupt Hawaii, among his own kind where they seem to reinforce each other’s delusions. I remember when he bragged about having an Obama necktie—and now he claims he’s not part of a cult!

        We can explain how and why we voted for Trump in 2016—he was an accomplished and successful businessman and a known problem solver, who had a wide range of business and problem solving experience under his belt. We can explain why and how we voted for him in 2020—he did a wonderful job as president, and showed us that he had a good grasp on the core problem dragging this country down (or to the Left—same thing) which is the Bureaucratic State, the de facto fourth branch of government consisting of unelected political appointees running bloated and increasingly powerful agencies and essentially legislating without the participation or even oversight of Congress. He loves the country and wants it to return to the conditions in which it achieved its greatness.

        But the only way to explain why anyone would have voted for Obama is the cult of personality. He never liked this country and didn’t even pretend to. He came out of nowhere, with no documented history, no experience, had never had a real job, was introduced to the political world by domestic terrorists who had been on the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted List, was surrounded by shady and/or racist and/or radical people, and whose only suggestion for what he might offer the country was the vague platitude of Hope and Change. Aside from the power of a lapdog Agenda Media and billions of international dollars propping him up, the single thing he had going for him was his skin color. Without a few million Americans thinking that electing a blackish man would show the world what a great and tolerant country we are he would never have had a chance. And voting for him a second time was even more inexplicable except for that cult thing.

        With Biden, by the way, there was no cult of personality. With Biden it was pure brute-force corruption, start to finish. You can’t have a cult of personality without a personality, and Biden was just a symbol, an allegedly nice old fart hiding in his basement while the forces of the Left did all the heavy lifting, which consisted of a skein of various and interlocking ways to rig the election. Between that and the fact that those who actually did vote for him were really just voting against the Invented Trump created by the media, there wasn’t any real energy for him, not the kind that prompts signs and bumper stickers.

  12. Cluster December 6, 2022 / 9:58 am

    81 million votes, and yet I never see a Biden t shirt, hat, flag, or yard sign. The visible support of 81 million voters (the most in US history) is non existent. Doesn’t that seem odd???

    Additionally, Katie Hobbs was just installed as AZ Gov yesterday and there was ZERO people at the coronation. Weird. Wherever her opponent, Kari Lake, would go, hundreds if not thousands of people would attend, enthusiastically. Katie couldn’t even fill up a McDonalds with supporters and never once debated or answered difficult questions. Kari’s visible support was everywhere … t shirts, yard signs, etc. but we are to believe that Hobbs won

  13. Retired Spook December 6, 2022 / 10:30 am

    Jeff Childers notes:

    The New York Post ran a story last week headlined, “Hunter Biden’s Former Law Firm Received $10M in Forgiven COVID Loans While Donating $1M to Dems.”

    I bet it never occurred to you that the troubled covid loan program could be used to wash money from taxpayers to democrat candidates. And you were probably surprised to hear that Hunter actually had a job as a real lawyer at a legit law firm. Well, sort of. The Post explained Hunter Biden became “of counsel” at Boies Schiller Flexner in 2010, earning $216,000 a year for a “no-show” job that required neither office hours, attending any meetings, or any billable hours.

    Of all law firms in the U.S., Boies took the single-biggest loan from the Paycheck Protection Program: $10.14 million. The loan was officially forgiven in 2021. Despite needing all that taxpayer money to “stay afloat,” equity partners each earned $4.5M million that year (out of $480M billed to clients) and as the headline mentioned, the firm still gave a million bucks to democrats.

    • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 1:01 pm

      David Boies, the left-wing lawyer famous for taking on Al Gore’s hanging chad Florida election disputes in 2000, turns out to have been the facilitator of an army of private investigators who tracked actresses making sexual abuse allegations against Hollywood studio big Harvey Weinstein and the reporters reporting it.

      That would be the same David Boies who defended Michael Moore for his illegal Cuba-junketeering in the making of the movie Sicko, a phony Potemkin-village account describing the glories of Castrocare, and the same David Boies who defended CBS after its disgusting smear job on General William Westmoreland, who sued. A list of Boies prominent cases can be read here.

      Now it turns out he was defending Harvey Weinstein all along, the biggest sex-harassing pig in Hollywood (actually, anywhere).

      Functioning almost exactly as Perkins Coie did in its hiring of Fusion GPS to collude with the Russians on behalf of Hillary Clinton, Boies’s firm paid a group of former Mossad types in a private investigative firm called Black Cube to tail and use pretext meetings to worm information out of Rose McGowan and the reporters she was talking to in order to spike the stories that would come of it. Other actresses were targeted as well. As in the case of Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS, big money changed hands, almost the same amounts in both cases. Black Cube got $100,000 on the first shot and $600,000 eventually. Apparently, these are the going rates in big smear operations, which both of these were.

      A brilliant account of the shenanigans, flawlessly investigated in great detail, can be read in the New Yorker by Ronan Farrow, who did one of the earliest exposés, and certainly the strongest one, on Weinstein after numerous efforts to spike it.

      The role of Boies is appalling for more than one reason: he was not only trying to defend the odious Weinstein, but also making it risky for others to expose him. It was he who was throwing all the roadblocks to exposing the monster.

      His response to that was hypocritical: In retrospect, I knew enough in 2015 that I believe I should have been on notice of a problem, and done something about it. I don’t know what, if anything, happened after 2015, but to the extent it did, I think I have some responsibility. I also think that if people had taken action earlier it would have been better for Mr. Weinstein.

      Well, guess why there was no “people had taken action earlier”! It was because of him.

      His claims of it all being a “mistake” are disingenuous, too. In the New Yorker piece, he says his mistake was in not picking the investigative firms. This is irrelevant, a straw man, a begging of the question. The problem was the mission itself that he paid for, not the particular players.

      Lastly, he was being a bad attorney by doing this. He represented the New York Times at a time when, in working with Weinstein, he was also trying to stop the New York Times from publishing its own exposé of Weinstein.

      I guess we’re supposed to believe that being one of the most prominent of Left-wing weasels had nothing to do with his firm raking in tens of millions of dollars in bogus Covid payouts.

  14. Cluster December 6, 2022 / 11:23 am

    The cheating and election interference on behalf of Democrats is starting to be noticed by everyone. Let’s hope they are held accountable.

    Fully 71% of people polled, and even 69% of Democrats agree with Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake that Arizona voters “were denied their sacred right to vote.” Concluded Mitchell, “This is the biggest number I’ve ever seen for Democrats and a big step change in public opinion. The things we saw in 2020 didn’t necessarily get out there but it’s getting out there now, maybe because it’s so flagrant.”

  15. Retired Spook December 6, 2022 / 12:41 pm

    Auron MacIntyre at the Blaze just absolutely NAILS every aspect of the modern Left.

    One would think that clear evidence of a conspiracy by a major corporation to suppress journalism in the attempt to influence a democratic election would enrage your average reporter, but of course the response was exactly the opposite. Establishment hacks quickly went to work attempting to assassinate Taibbi’s character, accusing him of doing “PR for the richest man in the world.” Far from being shocked by the politically motivated attack on freedom of the press, liberal journalists rushed to voice their support for the censorship and declare the story a “nothingburger.” There is no smoking gun, nothing to see here, just the internal communications of a company doing its job to stop the election of Donald Trump.

    These moments are always difficult for conservatives, because with these major revelations of corruption, they always expect a price to be paid. The rules have been broken, the sacred trust of journalists revealing the truth has been infringed, the legitimacy of elections has been impacted; surely justice will follow. But that moment will not come, because the very class of people whom Americans rely on to hold the powerful accountable do not just agree with this decision, they fully endorse it. The left will drone on and on about the importance of democracy, write endless articles about the sacred duty of the press, but they only see these institutions as tools for the retention of power. Democracy is only valuable when it assures the advance of a left-wing agenda. Journalism is only valuable when it is destroying the enemies of the progressive movement. Any journalist revealing the corruption inside Twitter that led to the censorship of the Hunter Biden story is a traitor to the party who deserves to be discredited and discarded.

    • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 12:48 pm

      they only see these institutions as tools for the retention of power. Democracy is only valuable when it assures the advance of a left-wing agenda. Journalism is only valuable when it is destroying the enemies of the progressive movement.

      And they don’t care who knows it.

    • Cluster December 6, 2022 / 12:59 pm

      Any journalist revealing the corruption inside Twitter that led to the censorship of the Hunter Biden story is a traitor to the party who deserves to be discredited and discarded.

      This is the cold civil war we are in … and my prediction is that it will turn hot and violent in the near future. I don’t see any other way around because the Left will not stop, so it’s just a matter of where the breaking point is for conservatives.

  16. Amazona December 6, 2022 / 12:46 pm

    Uh-oh—-the Loony Left has found another “nail in the coffin for Trump”. This time it is because Trump pardoned two guys who were convicted in 2012 for setting public fires on public land they leased and illegally killing deer on that land.

    But a guy advocating for their pardon also made a $10,000 donation to a conservative PAC. Not to Trump, of course, but why let a little detail get in the way of a conspiracy theory soon to be touted, I am sure, as the next “bombshell” guaranteed to take Trump down?

  17. Cluster December 6, 2022 / 3:45 pm

    Every single member of the Capital Police force needs to fired and stripped of pensions. Let them eat dirt.

    Members of the Capitol Police and DC Metropolitan Police Department gathered in the US Capitol rotunda to honor the law enforcement officers who fended off a mob of Donald Trump’s supporters who wanted the 2020 election overturned. Standing to accept the award on behalf of the police were Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger and DC Police Chief Robert Contee III, as well as members of fallen officer Brian Sicknick’s family. Sicknick suffered multiple strokes and died a day after he defended the US Capitol complex. When it came time to present the medal, Sicknick’s parents and brother gave Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer warm greetings, his mother even planting a kiss on the New York Democrat’s cheek. McConnell, standing next to Schumer, appeared to extend his hand – which was ignored by each of Sicknick’s family members.

    • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 7:29 pm

      Was DC Officer Lila Morris also honored at this disgusting circle jerk? You know, the officer who brutally beat Rosanne Boyland to death as she lay unconscious and helpless on the ground, on January 6? Bodycam footage shows the moments where Officer Morris continued to strike Boyland while she was lying unconscious – with Officer Morris being seen delivering “three full-force blows” with what appears to be a wooden stick. The officer can be seen hoisting the weapon over her own head before driving the weapon down in rapid succession.
      To date, D.C. Metro Police have made it clear that they have no intentions of terminating Officer Morris nor are there any plans to charge her in connection with Boyland’s death.

      • Amazona December 7, 2022 / 11:56 am

        Yeah, and repeated blows to the top of her head administered by a hefty copy swinging a club overhand with full force, while she lay unconscious and helpless, was just—–what? Incidental to the cause of death?

        You people aren’t even just gullible. You’re just toxically stupid.

        George Floyd was full of a more-than-lethal cocktail of drugs including fentanyl, complained of not being able to breathe while standing and then sitting before he was restrained on the ground, yet the man restraining him was convicted of murder because he was physically holding onto the man when the drugs took over and stopped his breathing. There was no sign of physical damage that would account for the inability to breathe, just the astounding amount of drugs in his system. Yet you people bought into the “murder” claim, because it fits your political agenda.

        Then a woman is brutally beaten, on camera, including suffering repeated vicious blows to the top of her head delivered by a strong police officer swinging a wooden club from over her own head in a movement similar to that of chopping wood, and because a politically motivated CYA report claimed the true cause of death was not the brain trauma from the beating but the fact that the woman had taken Adderall that’s all you need to claim the officer did not kill her.

        Well, she was alive until she was savagely beaten over the head with a wooden club. There is a reason police officers are not allowed to hit people in the head—it’s very dangerous. And the motion of bringing a club down from above onto the top of the head is known to be very much more dangerous. Yet this officer violated her own training and protocols and viciously beat an unconscious woman while the crowd begged her to stop.

        What is the difference between these two verdicts? Politics. Nothing but politics.

        Oh, by the way, her actions were “explained” away. She was just angry, you see, at the protest. So it was OK to take out her fury on a helpless and unconscious woman. After all, in DC she had to know the system would have her back. And so it did.

        The “shameless” meme continues as you seem fine with the excuses made.

      • fieldingclaymore December 7, 2022 / 1:02 pm

        A jury of your fellow citizens found that beyond a reasonable doubt that standing on George Floyd’s neck for 9 minutes was the cause of death. So I guess they are dopes too right? You buy this horseshit that it was the cops that murdered Rosanne and drugs that killed George because it fits your agenda. The difference is that my reading of the situations are backed by evidence produced by medical professionals and yours is produced by feelings.

      • Amazona December 7, 2022 / 1:59 pm

        There is nothing dumber than a dumb jury. When a jury ignores the findings of the coroner and goes with the political agenda, “dopes” is too kind a word.
        OR….there is the possibility that intimidation played a bigger role than stupidity or political correctness. Given the knowledge that a “wrong” verdict would definitely result in more rioting and very possibly in threats to the lives of the jurors, intimidation and fear are more likely contributors to the verdict than conviction that the autopsy findings were not worth consideration.

        And no, no one “stood” on Floyd’s neck. A man knelt at the base of his neck. There are certain physical signs of the pressure needed to stop breathing, damage to the structures of the neck, and none were present in Floyd even after he had been held down. While it is theoretically possible that Floyd would have been able to continue breathing if he had not been held down there is no way to know this, as he had complained of breathing difficulties several times while standing and while sitting in the back of the patrol car, and opioids act by inhibiting respiration. Medical professionals agreed that there were none of the physical signs of force in the neck or throat of George Floyd—but that his body had lethal levels of dangerous, respiration-inhibiting, drugs. It took non-professionals to overlook the medical reports and obediently come up with a politically correct verdict unsupported by the facts.

        It is theoretically possible that the position of Floyd, on his stomach and not allowed to move, contributed to his growing inability to breathe. If this is the case, which is impossible to know, then the officer in question would have been guilty of negligence at the worst, if there was proof he should have known that this was putting Floyd at risk.

        My “feelings” are totally unrelated to the video of the officer repeatedly bringing down a wooden club, with great force, on the head of a woman lying helpless and unconscious. My “feelings” have nothing to do with the fact that this kind of trauma is understood to be so dangerous that police departments forbid hitting people in the head. My “feelings” don’t dictate the level of lethality associated with repeatedly bringing down a wooden club, in an overhand “wood-chopping” arc, on the top of the head. A DC coroner speculated that because Boyland had Adderall in her system it had caused her to stop breathing, though this is not a drug usually taken recreationally or in larger than prescribed doses and she had been active prior to being knocked down by a surge in the crowd and then mercilessly beaten over the head.

        Adderall is a central nervous system (CNS) stimulant. Adderall overdose symptoms include restlessness, agitation, tremor, exaggerated reflexes, confusion, panic, aggression, paranoia, hallucinations, elevated body temperature, irregular heartbeat and fast breathing. Not suppression of respiration to the point of death.

        The drugs in Floyd’s system were opioids, which are nervous system depressants. The most common symptom of overdose is that the person stops breathing. A famous example of this was the death of actor Heath Leger.

        Occam’s Razor, as well as basic intelligence and common sense, would indicate that a person who took too much of any opioid or combination of opioids is likely to suffer respiratory distress even to the point of death, while a person who took too much Adderall is not. Yet you have chosen to believe that George Floyd, full of opioids and already complaining that he couldn’t breathe before being forced to lie quietly on his stomach, did not die of the natural consequence of opioid overdose, while Roseanne Boyland, who may or may not have taken too much of a nervous system stimulant, for some reason reacted to it as if it were a depressant. And more significantly you deny that repeated blows to the top of her head caused her death.

        The fact that you emotionally reacted to my comment and resorted to calling it “horseshit” although it reflected actual facts supported by an autopsy on one hand and video on the other confirms the impression you have made here that you are wholly dominated by the current narrative being pushed by the political masters you have chosen to tell you what to think.

      • fieldingclaymore December 7, 2022 / 2:50 pm

        do you have a link to the video of her being beaten?

      • Amazona December 7, 2022 / 4:43 pm

        Look it up. I’m not responsible for giving you information your masters didn’t. It was on non-woke websites after it happened, and people interested in the truth could see it.

      • fieldingclaymore December 7, 2022 / 2:55 pm

        I looked and found a video of still photos from Robert Gouveia Esq. Not convincing.

      • Amazona December 8, 2022 / 5:09 pm

        Funny—I don’t remember the DC police justifying the beating “because she was already dead”.
        How did the cop know Roseanne was dead? Is it Ok to viciously beat the crap out of someone you assume is alive and then get some Lefties saying it was OK because the person had already died?

        Or was Roseanne still alive while she was being beaten over the head, repeatedly, but it didn’t matter because she had been trampled and was probably going to die anyway?

        The fact is, a DC cop viciously beat a helpless unconscious woman over the head, repeatedly, with blows known to be dangerous to the point of being lethal, and the eventual cause of the woman’s death is all you care about. You even admit you don’t care that your media masters never told you about this, and that facts will not prompt you to alter your chosen worldview.

        Enough? Or do you want to keep trying to make excuses for the DC cops and the lying media? That DC cop who died of a stroke is being feted as some kind of hero with the media fawning over the rudeness of his family for snubbing Republicans, and he died of natural causes days after the riot.

    • Amazona December 6, 2022 / 7:57 pm

      “fallen officer”? These people literally have no shame.

    • fieldingclaymore December 7, 2022 / 5:25 pm

      Just saw the video. It is awful and clearly looked like she was struck several times in the head. Very suspicious. I googled Rosanne Boyland autopsy and nothing comes up.

      • Amazona December 7, 2022 / 5:31 pm

        Now you might consider why you didn’t know this until now. Could it be that your news sources are not reliable? Could it be that you are being herded into a certain direction of belief in the interests of a certain agenda? Could it be time for you abandon your knee-jerk hostility to the Invented Other you have been trained to distrust and maybe even hate and open your mind a little?

        I was once what I call an Unexamined Liberal, blindly accepting what I was told and reacting the way I was supposed to react. I can attest to the difficulty of moving out of that mental and emotional trap.

      • Amazona December 7, 2022 / 7:15 pm

        Could it be time for you abandon your knee-jerk hostility to the Invented Other you have been trained to distrust and maybe even hate and open your mind a little?

        Not really no

        No, I didn’t expect you would. The lies you were told will just be tucked away with the others that form your own distorted reality

      • fieldingclaymore December 8, 2022 / 11:12 am

        The video is bad but she was morbidly obese, crushed in a crowd and her heart couldn’t take the speed she was on. The medical report seems reasonable. She shouldn’t have been there, it was her own fault. When police said to disperse she should have complied. I don’t weep for insurrectionists.

      • Amazona December 8, 2022 / 5:13 pm

        Nice “blame the victim” screed. She was so fat no wonder she died.

        “She shouldn’t have been there. It was her own fault.” Did you say that about the scum Rittenhouse shot?

        She couldn’t “comply” because she got knocked down. Do try to keep up.

        There was no insurrection. There was no effort to take control of the government and assume its powers. Words have definitions, which matter, no matter how much lying and semantic manipulation is tried.

        You should have stopped a couple of posts ago, before exposing this extremely ugly and malignant side of what we always thought was just clueless stupidity

      • Amazona December 8, 2022 / 6:20 pm

        her heart couldn’t take the speed she was on

        Your frantic scrambling around to try to find some way to blame this woman for what happened to her is truly disgusting. Now you clam “her heart couldn’t take the speed she was on” yet nothing in the autopsy mentioned anything to do with her heart. Or her weight. Or a drug reaction. She was taking a prescription drug for a medical condition, not just wallowing in drug addiction like George Floyd, and the drugs did not kill her.

        You’re just a really ugly person

      • fieldingclaymore December 8, 2022 / 11:29 am

        Form the Denver Gazette whatever that is:

        Her family hired Park Dietz & Associates to evaluate the autopsy but determined her death was caused by manual asphyxia — a condition in which the body is deprived of oxygen,

        This opinion seems to indicate she died form the crush.

      • fieldingclaymore December 8, 2022 / 6:00 pm

        Didn’t you just blame the victim, George Floyd, a few posts earlier? GTFOH

      • Amazona December 8, 2022 / 6:16 pm

        George Floyd willingly chose to take a lethal amount of drugs–an illegal act as well as self-destructive. People who take large amounts of dangerous drugs are responsible for the outcome. The outcome of his decision and his actions can was solely his fault.

        Rosanne Boyland was engaging in a Constitutionally protected right to petition her government for redress of a wrong and the result of a mass of people being driven in her direction by police was not due to anything she did.

        Any effort to conflate the two is profoundly dishonest and proof of a complete lack of integrity. You proved these things about you when you lied about a police office “standing on the neck” of Floyd and again when you said Boyland was engaging in insurrection. In other words, you are a liar, and a wholly unprincipled liar at that.

        You’ve chosen your side and now you tacitly admit it can only be defended with lies. Not my problem.

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