Open Thread

Yoell Roth, the former trust and safety capo at Twitter, tweeted back in 2010 a question about kids consenting to sex with their teachers. In case you were wondering why Twitter prioritized getting the Bad Orange Man rather than all the sexual abuse stuff off their platform.

That, by the way, is something to be wary of when going on Twitter. It isn’t shoved in your face, but sometimes rather innocuous searches can result in some astonishing results. So, best to have a care – I mean, you know if you search “boobs” what you’re going to get…but other words which have completely innocent meanings have been coopted by the naughty into other meanings.

Unlike Facebook, you can find actual rated X stuff directly posted on Twitter – but whether it is the real deal or just a scantily clad woman, the purpose is to get you to click a link which brings you to the adult website. Lots of us, of late, have been followed by bot accounts with all sorts of different names but they all share pictures of the same very pretty Chinese lady. We’re not sure if its Chinese spyware or just a come on for Chinese-themed dirty bits, but none but a fool would actually click the links. As for me, I just block them as they come up – must be at least a couple score by now. There is some hope that Musk will curb that – I mean, I don’t think Twitter needs to be the morality police, but certainly any links to sites which are not just dirty but downright evil should be banned. And now that Roth is out, it might happen.

On Twitter, a mutual posted a poll showing that support for Reparations now sits at 60% among Democrats. This is no surprise at all – Democrats are sheep who will just do what they’re told. But it is also going to be a tricky issue for the GOP. Given the way things are, passing out the cash is popular, as such. And the GOP is perceived as the party that will pass out cash to business and to wars, but always balks at giving money to regular folks. I doubt that Reparations will ever gain overall majority support, but its going to come close and soon – maybe as soon as 2024 and when it does get there, Democrats will campaign on it. This is especially so if trends in black voting towards the GOP accelerate. So, when the issue comes up, we’d better be ready for it and our answer can’t just be, “no”.

The Democrats, of course, just want a race slush fund – a pile of government money that their cronies control and pass out to loyal foot soldiers who will then agitate for even more money. To counter it, I think we need some sort of program to build business and home ownership among the black community. Real wealth owned by individuals, families and cooperatives. And we can’t ignore the fact that from 1776 to 1865 almost all wealth generated by blacks was stolen and from 1865 to 1965 wealth creation among the Africa-American community was hampered a thousand ways in law and custom. It is simply true that the African-American community would be per-capita richer today than it is had there not been nearly two centuries of effort to prevent black wealth creation. We should take that line with it – that those who are genuinely descended from slaves (with some sort of cut off percentage – say 33% at a bare minimum) didn’t inherit as much wealth as they could have, and so we should try to make up for that – perhaps with a program of selling federal land and using the proceeds to pay out? I don’t really know: I’m spitballing here. But some means whereby out of the national wealth, those who’s ancestors were actively prevented from accumulating wealth are granted some sort of benefit. Because, like I said, it can’t just be “no”. We’ll get destroyed on the issue if we just say “no”.

Side benefit to selling federal land: it gets land out of Uncle Sam’s hands. The less land the feds own, the less legal power they have to interfere on the State and local level.

There is a great deal of argument between anti-Trump GOPers and the Trumpsters. Each is arguing in their various ways that the other side getting their way means doom for the GOP. Nominate Trump and we’ll lose! Nominate Ron DeSantis and we’ll lose! The correct answer is: we’re going to lose.

It is always difficult to get the incumbent party out after one term. It only rarely happens – and that usually takes massive economic catastrophe. But even with such, it still won’t be easy – there is so much welfare out there that the pain felt in, say, 1980 or 1932 simply won’t be there. Nobody is going to be worrying about their next meal. So even if, as I expect, we have bad economic times in 2024, that is no assurance that we’ll beat Pudding Brain.

And this is absent fraud – which various laws in places like Georgia has made a lot harder. In a straight up race, we’ll lose. Not only because it is hard to beat an incumbent, we’re also simply too divided and too weak. The Never Trump and Trumpsters hate each other far more than they hate the Democrats. Nominate Trump and the Never Trump ‘burbs will stay home. Nominate RDS and the Trumpster rurals will stay home. In either case, I can’t see our guy getting to 270 absent something like 25% unemployment. And even then it would be iffy.

I think that for 2024 our prime effort should be on holding the House, gaining the Senate and flipping as many county commissions and school boards as we can. That is the seed corn for the future while holding part or all of Congress means that at least Democrat policies aren’t enshrined in law. Now, miracles can happen – and if we find ourselves with a trifecta in 2024, cool. But don’t count on it – and any result will be better if we also won a lot of counties and school boards, where the real power to shape the country lies.

37 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook December 11, 2022 / 9:53 am

    Trump could solve the whole 2024 election problem by bowing out and putting his full support behind DeSantis or another candidate who will promise to pursue the same agenda, but I don’t think his ego will let him do that.

    • Amazona December 11, 2022 / 10:41 am

      Sadly, I have to agree. Though the party could solve this problem and the McCarthy issue by naming Trump as Speaker of the House, which would have the effect of keeping the Left spinning in impotent fury for the next two years while opening up the field for DeSantis.

      • Retired Spook December 11, 2022 / 10:46 am

        I like your way even better.

      • Amazona December 11, 2022 / 11:00 am

        You have to admit, it would be a lot more fun, and probably lead to the resignation of several Dem Representatives as well. Win-win

      • Amazona December 12, 2022 / 10:11 am

        And don’t forget….with Trump as Speaker of the House, when we get rid of Biden and Harris he would be next in line. Kind of makes impeachment worthwhile, doesn’t it?

  2. Amazona December 11, 2022 / 10:51 am

    It’s about time….from RedState:

    The stuff about Twitter censoring the Hunter Biden story and banning Donald Trump over January 6th is interesting. I’m not suggesting those topics aren’t important and haven’t been eye-opening. But I will go out on a limb and say that Twitter’s ruthless, Orwellian censorship of COVID-19 information, which occurred right up until Musk bought the company, was not only its most wide-ranging bit of malfeasance, but it was also the most damaging.

    For years, truthful statements about things like the vaccines, masks, lockdowns, and the origins of the coronavirus led to bans of major accounts, including those run by accredited medical professionals with years of service. In the second “Twitter Files” release, it was revealed that Dr. Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford, who had done groundbreaking research on the inefficacy of mask-wearing in relation to COVID-19, had been shadow-banned for speaking the truth.

    And, addressing the equally malignant issue of attacking medical personnel who did not bend the knee to the dictates of Fauci and Biden:

    Aaron Murray
    Replying to
    When will we get the twitter files on covid? The info on the suspension of the many doctors and scientists? Who was involved? Suppression of what has turned out to be factual information.

    Elon Musk
    Replying to
    Oh it is coming bigtime …
    5:28 AM · Dec 11, 2022

    But maybe my favorite:

    Elon Musk

    My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci
    5:58 AM · Dec 11, 2022

    • Amazona December 11, 2022 / 10:59 am

      Censoring the Biden information manipulated our election and gave us the Biden administration and all the misery, chaos and damage that includes. But the censoring of the Covid information led to the deaths of thousands of people who might very well have lived if not callously denied life-saving medications and treatments in the pursuit of political agendas.

  3. Amazona December 11, 2022 / 10:56 am

    We now live in a country where the administration brags about appointing ” a genderfluid BDSM bondage expert“. What could possibly go wrong?

  4. Cluster December 11, 2022 / 12:06 pm

    It is always difficult to get the incumbent party out after one term. It only rarely happens – and that usually takes massive economic catastrophe.

    You mean like manufacturing a virus and shutting down the economy?? Kind of like that?

  5. Cluster December 11, 2022 / 12:21 pm

    What we have all been discussing the last several years is confirmed by no other than an honest outsider

    Viktor Bout told RT: “They’re losing their Christian values. They’re losing their families. They’re losing literally their country. It is not anymore the same country we knew America used to be, the model for the entire world and lead and be an example. Like they say, you know, a sparkling town on a hill.”

    Secular woke, weak Democrats are killing the United States and all options need to be on the table to permanently eliminate this threat.

    • Amazona December 11, 2022 / 12:57 pm

      They’re losing literally their country. It is not anymore the same country we knew America used to be, the model for the entire world and lead and be an example This from an international arms dealer, not someone who would be the first person to come to mind when thinking of someone with good things to say about this country.

      I have never understood why some Americans have been ashamed of us as a model, as a leader, as an example of liberty, as a nation respectful of morality. I do think this negative attitude is thin, put on because it fits some peer-pressure narrative.

      A few years ago, when I was actively ranching and hired a lot of college-age kids during the summer, one of them kept talking about what a horrible country this is and how he wished he could live anywhere else. I got tired of this so one day I told him if he would name the country where he wanted to live I would pay for him to move there. His face literally lit up and he said “Really? You’d pay for me to move there?” and I said yes, absolutely—that he was just dragging this country down and he should live in a nation he could where he could contribute to it in some way. He said he would like to live in India. (I refrained from commenting on his choice…) I said fine, I would pay the costs of his moving there and he was downright giddy.

      I said all he had to do was bring me documentation that he had renounced his American citizenship and applied for (or preferably been accepted) for Indian citizenship, and once he did that and turned in his American passport and made arrangements to be a full-time permanent resident of India I would pay for his move.

      Oh. Well, he didn’t want to do THAT! His face fell and he was completely deflated. So, after this whole conversation in which I was kind and generous and helpful my tone changed and I said, essentially and harshly “Then STFU and quit whining. If you can’t love your country and contribute to it then get the hell out because you’re no good to us here. But if you’re not ready to make that commitment to some other country because deep down you know this is the best place in the world to live then at least shut up around me.”

      I think a lot of, if not most, of the America Last crowd are like this—like the celebrities who keep promising to move to some other country if some conservative gets elected, who never follow through.

      The Left has established a cultural phenomenon in which it is fashionable to trash this country, but when push comes to shove they won’t leave it. And part of this is the emotional manipulation by the Left that pushes them to knee-jerk resistance to traditional American values. I understand this in the very young—rebellion is a natural aspect of growing up. But when adults defend things like drag queen story hour or putting porn in school libraries because they think this means they are morally superior in their lack of judgmentalism the result is the moral decay we see now. What they think is courage in standing up to traditionalism is really cowardice in fear of standing up to corruption.

      Feed one of these lemmings a catch-phrase that they can latch onto, like the current word “BAN” and they can howl about how evil, fascistic and oppressive it is to BAN some books. But ask them why they think children should be exposed to graphic sexualization and they stumble and stutter. Because they don’t really think children should be sexualized, they just like the illusion of superiority they get from defending something they have been told is bad, and this defense does not include the actual outcome of teaching tiny children to admire adult sexual perversion. They skim along on the surface of their current shallow belief systems, but don’t really have deep commitments to them, and are often like the people admiring the emperor’s new clothes, too cowardly to go against the current of acceptance of what is really unacceptable.

      What we don’t have is a way to make them realize that they are virtue-signaling evil and corruption because they for some reason think this means they are more sophisticated, more intelligent, more advanced when in reality they are just more susceptible to emotional manipulation.

      • Cluster December 11, 2022 / 2:20 pm

        … too cowardly to go against the current of acceptance of what is really unacceptable

        This is it – it’s the conformity to the mob. It’s just easier to “go along to get along” with the mob than it is to stand up against it. And most people have eschewed Faith so their moral compass is broken.

  6. Cluster December 11, 2022 / 12:25 pm

    I’ll just drop this here for your review. No corporate media will ever broadcast this story but it seems like it’s kind of important …

    “Maricopa County election officials engaged in numerous breaches of Arizona election law in their handling and custody of ballots, making it impossible to conclude that the vote tallies reported by Maricopa County accurately reflect the votes cast by Arizona voters,” contends the lawsuit.

    Kari Lake’s team of expert attorneys have gathered evidence from signed witness testimony, Runbeck whistleblowers, and Maricopa County whistleblowers to craft a 70-page lawsuit against Maricopa County and Secretary of State Katie Hobbs.

    Included in the complaint is a shocking claim by a Runbeck employee that nearly 300,000 ballots were delivered to Runbeck on Election Day with no chain of custody documentation.

    Maricopa County is the only jurisdiction in the country that picks up completed ballots at USPS Processing Distribution Center but doesn’t bring them back to the election department or tabulation center. Instead, Maricopa County picks up mail-in ballots and takes them directly to its print vendor Runbeck Election Services, which is headquartered in Phoenix.

    The Gateway Pundit has reported on Runbeck’s services in Maricopa County. The County has still not provided all chain of custody documents from Runbeck and USPS for the 2020 election.

    • Amazona December 11, 2022 / 1:07 pm

      impossible to conclude that the vote tallies reported by Maricopa County accurately reflect the votes cast by Arizona voters, yet they were forced to illegally certify uncertifiable numbers.

      And….The County has still not provided all chain of custody documents from Runbeck and USPS for the 2020 election.

      What legal requirements does Runbeck have, regarding its performance and its liability, both civil and criminal?

      We keep fluttering around the edges of problems like these, waving our hankies and fretting about how bad it is, but we do have weapons—-we have civil actions that demand monetary compensation and we have criminal proceedings. Donald Trump tried to get courts to intervene in 2020 but I think the biggest issue there was the hesitation of the courts to do anything that might be construed as controlling the outcome. And he was just asking for intervention. I think there is still the memory of the complaint that George W Bush was “selected not elected” thanks to the deceptive propaganda of the Left, and this scared the courts so much they played Pontius Pilate and just washed their hands of the problem. But now that this election is over, it might be safer for them to evaluate what happened. I hope so, anyway.

      And with punitive damages on the table, where a county might have to account to its constituents for the loss of millions of dollars, the stakes are different.

      • Amazona December 11, 2022 / 1:21 pm

        I learned this lesson years ago, when some lowlife horse breeders refused to sign the papers I needed to register the offspring of their stallion, after I had paid to breed two mares to him. They figured I would have to go to small claims court, and then they would have their shyster lawyer friend step in to bump it into district court when I would have to pay for a lawyer, and when I won all they would have to do would be to sign two pieces of paper. I learned that they pulled this kind of thing all the time.

        But I got an appraisal from a professional appraiser that the difference in value between a registered horse and an unregistered horse was $5000 and I filed two separate lawsuits against them, one for each horse I couldn’t register. Suddenly they had skin in the game. Suddenly it wasn’t fun to jerk me around any more because I could prove they had the legal requirement to give me those papers and I had damages due to their refusal.

        That’s when I learned that the best way to get someone’s attention is to make their behavior have a financial cost. What is the financial value of a vote? Then sue the people in charge for that amount if they didn’t run the election well enough to keep your vote from being canceled out by a bogus illegal vote. Every time there is a financial cost to an illegal action, there should be a legal effort for compensation.

        On top of that sue for correction of things like allowing (much less encouraging or enabling) illegal voting by simply throwing out the vote. If states had refused to certify blatantly uncertifiable votes in 2020 and kicked the choice of president to the House, the people in those states could have, and should have, sued the people who let the election be corrupted because that incompetence, or criminality, stole their ability to choose their leaders.

        We don’t need guns, at least not yet. But we do need focus, and coordination, and will. We need a strategy. Right now we are still reactive, always on defense, and it’s hard to score on defense.

      • Amazona December 11, 2022 / 2:18 pm

        A Google search on Renbeck came up with some interesting information.

      • Cluster December 12, 2022 / 3:39 pm

        That Renbeck article is an eye opener. Hard to believe Democrats have brought us to this point.

  7. Amazona December 11, 2022 / 2:29 pm

    This quotation, found in a Comments section, claims to be from John F Kennedy:

    “Communism has never come to power in a country that was not disrupted by war or corruption, or both.”—John F. Kennedy

    While the Left continually howls about what they claim is “corrupt” practices of Donald Trump, it is indisputable that he recognized and was going after corruption in our government. We and he are lucky that the Left decided to get rid of him in less than its normal lethal means.

    • Cluster December 11, 2022 / 3:11 pm

      As vociferously as they acted to remove Trump, is exactly how deep they are in corruption

  8. Cluster December 12, 2022 / 9:02 am

    I’m thinking that there just aren’t enough impoverished black children in California so this program ought to go well …

    San Francisco’s guaranteed income program for pregnant black women that pays up to $1,000 a month for a full year expanding into four other California counties

    Yes, elected officials are this stupid.

    • Amazona December 12, 2022 / 12:46 pm

      So what’s your point? Are you actually implying that paying poor women to have children out of wedlock, who will then have to be supported by the State, adding to the plantation of human livestock to be harvested for their votes, might somehow be a bad idea?

      • Cluster December 12, 2022 / 3:41 pm

        It’s hard to believe that a bad outcome actually could happen. Who would have thunk it?

  9. Cluster December 12, 2022 / 9:31 am

    What a complete piece of shit

    Sen. Mitt Romney has once again cozied up to Democrats by recently condemning his Republican colleagues who are launching investigations into Hunter Biden. Romney told The Bulwark, he believes investigations by the now Republican-controlled House are a waste of time and resources.

    After we imprison Hunter for illicit drug use, sexual exploitation of a children, and oh yea, selling access to the White House, I say let’s investigate Romney. Just like Harry Reid said, I don’t think Mittens has paid his taxes.

    • Amazona December 12, 2022 / 12:49 pm

      We can be sure that Mittens won’t subject himself to questioning along the lines of “So why do you think investigating the theft of billions of dollars of taxpayer money would be a waste of time?”

      When he ran for the presidency I didn’t realize he was in invertebrate

      • Cluster December 12, 2022 / 3:42 pm

        I’m so glad Mittens lost that election and I’m equally disgusted with myself that I voted for him

      • Amazona December 12, 2022 / 8:59 pm

        It was either vote for Mitt or don’t vote at all, and to be fair we never saw this spineless gutless pandering side of him back then.

    • Amazona December 12, 2022 / 10:09 am

      Recruit all you want to—-he’s still a naturalized citizen

  10. Retired Spook December 12, 2022 / 12:34 pm

    In an otherwise bleak world, a bit of good news this morning.

    Scientists in South Korea have managed to sustain a nuclear fusion reaction running at temperatures in excess of 100 million°C – nearly seven times hotter than the core of the Sun – for 30 seconds for the first time.

    It marks an important advance in achieving viable fusion power, which promises near-limitless clean energy by mimicking the natural reactions occurring within the Sun.

    To say this could be a game-changer is the understatement of the year.

  11. Tim December 12, 2022 / 7:48 pm

    I will say this about Donald Trump. Among people of my social group, lower middle class white and blue collar without a college degree, his support is firming up.

    IMO he will have no problem winning the nomination. If by the odd chance that RDS would win the nomination, I and like minded would vote for him. I don’t think RDS will run though.

    This will DJT’s last rodeo in politics. RDS can easily wait his turn and enjoy the limelight and hopefully a future tenure as POTUS.*

    Maga America Great AGAIN!
    Make America Straight AGAIN!

    * Just the opinoins/ravings of one rando on the net.

    I don’t care what I say, you all are all right!


    • Amazona December 12, 2022 / 9:03 pm

      I just wish Trump would stop shooting himself in the foot. He’s not going to lose the support he already has by exhibiting some discipline and restraint, but he can gain a lot more if he stops blurting out every single thing that pops into his head and doing stupid stuff like having lunch with Kanye West.

      • Mark Noonan December 12, 2022 / 10:08 pm

        Own worst enemy – always has been. A bit more tact on this part would go a long way.

      • Amazona December 13, 2022 / 5:16 pm

        Someone should put big signs on his mirrors, etc: “Donald—just because you think it doesn’t mean you should say it”.

        We all learned this lesson when we are about four, when we blurted out “Mommy, look how fat that lady is” or something similar. Just because he is 3/4 of a century late doesn’t mean he can’t learn it now.

  12. Amazona December 13, 2022 / 5:36 pm

    1. Governor DeSantis filed a petition with the Florida Supreme Court to impanel a Grand Jury to investigate wrongdoing connected with the covid-19 vaccines.
    2. Florida has created a new “Public Health Integrity Committee” including expert researchers that can critically review the public health guidance coming from federal agencies like the CDC and the NIH, and provide independent, evidence-based guidance to Floridians. The Governor said other states would join Florida.
    3. The Legislature will introduce a new bill to protect physicians’ independent judgment, their First Amendment rights, and their right to dissent from the orthodox narrative.
    4. Since the CDC won’t do it, Florida’s Surgeon General is initiating a scientific surveillance study of the incidence of death from myocarditis within a few weeks of covid-19. They’ll be working with scientists from the University of Florida.

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