Indict This Open Thread

Mindless Biden Drone 1: “We’re getting killed over that massacre of Christians in that school! What do we do?”

Mindless Biden Drone 2: “Tell everyone that our hearts go out to the transgender community?”

MBD1: “That’s already in the script.”

MBD2: “Trans day of visibility?”

MBD1: “We scheduled that yesterday.”

MBD2: “I’m out of ideas.”

Mindless Biden Drone 3: “I got it!”

MBD1/2: “What?”

MBD3: “We get the DA in NY to charge Trump!”

MBD1: “But its bullsh**.”

MBD2: “And?”

MBD1: “Run with it!”

And that is how we get to a Trump indictment. Apparently not just about the alleged payoff to Stormy…they’ve got him nailed on multiple counts of…filling out paperwork incorrectly!

((Cue that ‘dun dun’ sound from Law and Order))

Look, guys; it is all BS – but they got their indictment and they’ll get their Trump mugshot and that will keep the Democrat base happy for months…and maybe even take the sting away when the charges collapse. But most importantly they got six murdered victims off the news. That was the crucial thing here.

Because the backlash is coming. I’m sure the DNC has internal polling showing that the issue is a loser for them: they know they have to keep talking up the issue as if its great because their base simply wouldn’t know what to do with any shift on it…but they had to get it off the TV.

Presto: gone.

Everyone other than the most wet noodle GOPers was out right away condemning the move. Everyone who isn’t a dyed in the wool Democrat knows its bogus (and according to polling, even 30% of the Democrats know its bogus). Some are saying the Dems long term plan is to have this help Trump (you can only imagine the amount of money he’ll fund-raise off it and the Trump story for a while now will suck up all the air in the room) by generating GOP base sympathy. I’m not so sure – the Democrats are still as ruthless as they’ve ever been, and when its time to get 2,000 votes together to flip an election their way, cracker jack…but of late I’ve noticed an increasing level of sheer stupid among them. Like when the SecDef went to Congress and said he had no regrets about how the Afghanistan withdrawal went…seriously, all the moron had to do was express pro-forma regret for the lost lives and move on…”no regrets!”. Idiot. Something ready made for the GOP 2024 campaign reel. They might be floundering badly here. It’ll be up to the GOP to see if they can capitalize on it. Do keep in mind that we’re not called The Stupid Party for no reason!

64 thoughts on “Indict This Open Thread

  1. Jeremiah March 30, 2023 / 9:57 pm

    The question I have is will President Trump have secret service protection while in jail? Because if he doesn’t and the democrats have him assassinated that’s going to be bad.

    • Amazona March 30, 2023 / 10:13 pm

      I hadn’t thought about that and I doubt that Fat Alvin has, either. Let’s see what kind of games they play when he turns himself in.

      • Retired Spook March 30, 2023 / 11:46 pm

        Apparently DeSantis has said he will not cooperate with New York in extraditing Trump. It would be hilarious if Trump were to say, “ya know what — I’ve changed my mind Alvin, piss off.” Also keep in mind that Trump has Secret Service protection, and that could become a factor if New York law enforcement tries to do something really stupid.

      • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 10:15 am

        Watching plots thicken is always fun. This possible scenario has DeSantis rising in stature as a defender of Trump’s rights, setting up a potential alliance of Trump and DeSantis to establish DeSantis as the only feasible successor to Trump after Trump’s second term.

        And Disney is doing its part to elevate DeSantis by pitting the mouse against him, in a desperate last-minute effort to hold onto the immense special powers it has had in Florida for years.

      • Mark Noonan March 31, 2023 / 11:11 am

        From what I can tell, the old board hadn’t got a leg to stand on…Disney’s crooked attempt here to subvert the will of the people won’t stand.

      • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 3:25 pm

        The Reedy Creek Improvement District, created by lawmakers in 1967, has the power to create its own fire department. It can seize land via eminent domain even if the land falls outside the district’s boundaries. It has the state’s permission to build a nuclear power plant.

        Although no such nuclear power plant exists — even if Disney wanted one, federal approval takes a while — special districts don’t normally have such broad powers.

        The district also has the power to create conservation areas, build its own airport, create water and sewage systems, build its own public utilities … the list goes on. Disney even controls who sits on the five-member board that governs the district.

        Does the state treat all theme parks this way?

        Local governments have given some special privileges to Disney’s theme park competitors. But none approach the state’s arrangement with Disney.

        Universal Orlando sits in a portion of a special district called the Orlando Community Redevelopment Agency. A portion of the property taxes paid by Universal that would normally go toward general government are used to pay for public infrastructure improvements near the park. Local officials created the Universal portion of Orlando’s community redevelopment area in the 1990s to ease congestion around Interstate 4.

        “Does Universal benefit from those infrastructure improvements? Yes, because they can get more visitors and a better experience for their tourists,” said Chris McCullion, the City of Orlando’s chief financial officer. “At the end of the day though, had we done nothing, I-4 would just be a parking lot around Universal Studios.”

        The new legislation canceled the Reedy Creek agreement and five other special districts

      • Cluster March 31, 2023 / 11:35 am

        The duplicity of Democrats is stunning. They are now supporting a huge corporation run by a billionaire over the people of Florida. Their hypocrisy and lunacy knows no bounds.

    • jdge1 March 31, 2023 / 4:42 am

      First, as both a former president AND a front runner for the nomination of the 2024 election Trump will have continued secret service protection. IF he were incarcerated, that protection would likely follow him even if not directly in his cell with him. That being said, it seems more likely that as this situation proceeds, should he turn himself in he will be processed and released on bond awaiting trial. The ramifications of this action by the Manhattan DA will be considerable. We’ve yet to see how judges at both the state and federal levels and the GOP House will weigh in on this development.

      This will likely impact Biden as well when he leaves office (should he still be alive) as there are already numerous known (real) criminal activities he’s been involved with. Democrats have a way of instigating things with unintended consequences. One example was the rule change initiated when Harry Reid and the democrats voted to deploy a parliamentary procedure dubbed the “nuclear option” changing Senate rules to pass most executive and judicial nominees by a simple majority instead of the long standing 60 vote threshold needed to overcome a filibuster. This constant attack against Trump will backfire, especially if he’s elected again to the presidency. Either way, the swamp has to be concerned.

    • jdge1 March 31, 2023 / 5:26 am

      I think part of the delay in the indictment that was anticipated last week, was to figure out how to deal with and gain advantage from the potential protest. Regardless if any protesting happens, it sure seems this DA has opened Pandora’s box.

    • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 3:59 pm

      What is the jurisdiction of the indictment? That is, is it Manhattan or the state? Because a change of venue to a small upstate city would make a world of difference.

      • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 9:41 pm

        Given Bragg’s running on the promise to get Trump, a change of venue ought to be a slam dunk ( to use a favorite Lefty term). So get it out into rural NY state and see what happens.

  2. casper3031 March 31, 2023 / 1:17 am

    The Grand Jury has acted upon the facts and the law.

    No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence.

    Hopefully, the former President will peacefully respect the system, which grants him that right.

    • jdge1 March 31, 2023 / 5:17 am

      Oh please. Do you really not see this for the vindictive activity that it is? This very issue was dismissed at the federal level a long time ago and has since gone way beyond the statute of limitations. On top of that the Manhattan is trying to elevate what would be a misdemeanor at best, and conflate it to a felony. On top of that he’s using the testimony of Trump’s former lawyer, a known liar and felon. But hey, go drink some more Kool-Aid.

    • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 9:45 am

      What fatuous statement. But it’s Casper, so what should we expect? A classic example of Casper’s ongoing ignorance of the law and the Constitution is his mewling that now Trump can “prove innocence”. Except he doesn’t have to. In the Constitutional system we allegedly have, he doesn’t have to prove a damned thing. It is up to the State to prove guilt.

      Which takes us back to the alleged “facts”. The single “fact” we have is that a sum of money was paid to a woman by Trump’s attorney. After that, it’s down the rabbit hole of speculation, projection and invention. After that, it’s someone who hates Trump assigning motive.

      And then there is the “law”—which, by the way establishes a statute of limitations on prosecution of the law supposedly broken, according to the projections, inventions and speculations of the State. A statute which has expired. The law which was allegedly broken is a misdemeanor, and the State didn’t prosecute it before the statute ran out.

      Why not? Well, because no one who looked at the allegation—-NO ONE, including Bragg—thought it worth pursuing.

      It’s only being pursued now because the Star Chamber fiasco in the House of Representatives fell apart so there is a frantic need to go to the backup plan, which is the corrupt and biased State of New York

      That brings us to Casper, pursing his pudgy lips in pious sanctimonious hope that Trump will “respect the system” (which Casper doesn’t even understand). To even think, much less write, such mindless drivel is proof that Casper’s sources of “information” are all part of the Agenda Media.

      And no, Casper, the system does NOT “grant him” the right to be heard in a court of law. He HAS that right, and the “system” is just there to administer it. The utter ignorance of this former teacher of even the most basic concepts of our Constitution is appalling.

    • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 10:02 am

      This is what Nancy Pelosi said:

      The Grand Jury has acted upon the facts and the law. No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence. Hopefully, the former President will peacefully respect the system, which grants him that right.

      Gee, doesn’t that sound an awful lot like what Casper said? And he didn’t even attribute his nonsense as a quote. What a slimy little worm he is.

      • Cluster March 31, 2023 / 10:13 am

        My God, he simply copy and pasted hahahahaha

        What a complete tool he is. Remember when he said a few years ago that he “hangs with the cool kids” LOL

      • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 10:21 am

        But he is so fatuously smug in his self-perceived intelligence and political acumen while beclowning himself every time he sits down at a keyboard.

        Sometimes I read the online Casper Star Tribune (an AP mouthpiece that pretends to be a newspaper by printing AP nonsense and dozens of photographs to pad out its lack of content) and there are some commenters who sound like they may have been in Mr. W’s class, based on their ignorance.

      • Retired Spook March 31, 2023 / 12:41 pm

        Casper has posted a lot of specious garbage here over the years, but I think this ranks at or near the top of the list. Not only completely ignorant of the law but plagiarized to boot.

      • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 3:10 pm

        No wonder he turns to Pelosi for what to think—he was flattered to be told he and Hirono are two of a kind.

        Back in the days when he was still posturing as a teacher everything he said about the Constitution was wrong. There is no reason to think he’s learned anything since then.

    • Mark Noonan March 31, 2023 / 11:09 am

      No, the Grand Jury most emphatically did not act upon facts and that law – but, suppose it did; let’s make believe that somewhere in there a crime was potentially committed by Trump:

      Bill and Hillary were never indicted. Hunter walks free. Joe Biden yucks it up with his 10% and 50,000 BLM/Antifa continue to skate.

      The selective application of the law based upon political considerations means THERE IS NO LAW.

      But if this is the banana Republican you Progressives want, then that’s what you’ll get…already pressure is building for Red State AG’s and DA’s to go after prominent Democrats.

      • Retired Spook March 31, 2023 / 11:13 am

        I agree with many top Conservative voices who think this is nothing more than an attempt to get the Right to react with violence. If we were a bunch of emotionally motivated lemmings, it might work, but we aren’t, and it won’t. Nice try, though. When the shooting actually does start, we’ll remember. I look forward to Progressive Democrats being added to the endangered species list.

      • casper3031 March 31, 2023 / 9:47 pm

        “But if this is the banana Republican you Progressives want, then that’s what you’ll get…already pressure is building for Red State AG’s and DA’s to go after prominent Democrats”
        If they have solid evidence that a democrat has committed a crime they should go for it. The investigations into Trump have taken years with hundreds of witnesses being interviewed and thousands of transactions analyzed.
        At this point though, no one, outside of the Bragg and the Grand Jury, knows what the charges are. Nor have any of us seen the evidence presented to the Grand Jury.

      • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 10:23 pm

        Thank you for making our point for us. As you say; The investigations into Trump have taken years with hundreds of witnesses being interviewed and thousands of transactions analyzed.

        Yet not a single indictment has resulted. Not even a coherent accusation. Add into this the hundreds of IRS investigations, with not one resulting in a charge. The desperate and increasingly Loony Left has had to go after Trump employees for trivia like not reporting every single benefit as income, so their lapdog media could bellow headlines of “Trump associates guilty of…..”

        That’s what we have been saying all along—all those thousands of hours paid for by taxpayer money in frantic efforts to find something–ANYTHING—to hang on Trump, with nary a success among them all.

        So it was necessary to find someone like Bragg, willing to risk disbarment for abuse of power and frivolous prosecution, to dig up an expired claim even he had rejected and then invent a cockamamie concept of tying it to a federal felony crime which has nothing to do with the original complaint and then assert a local DA’s authority over a federal accusation.

        This is a tacit admission that the only way to rig the election by hanging a serious crime on Trump is to invent a crime, invent a connection between it and what is alleged to have happened (ignoring the fact this had been rejected by Bragg himself and the federal DOJ) and then hope to sucker in as many ignorant TDS lemmings as possible to get all frothy and flustered about it.

        Which is the cue for “Enter Casper, Stage Left”.

      • Mark Noonan April 1, 2023 / 12:50 am

        Any DA can charge anyone with anything, Casper – its the old saw, “a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich”. How would you like it if someone who hated you started combing through your life and then brought charges? You’d hate it. Even if at the outset you were sure you could beat the rap, it still amounts to years of your life and untold amounts of money.

        YOU DON’T SEE IT. You are so wrapped up in your Progressive identity that you simply cannot break away even for a minute to look at it from a different point of view.

        Its really rather sad. Don’t know how you can live like that. My views change with new facts and new situations…yours don’t. Any one of us can predict precisely what views you’ll hold on any issue…and it will be just what the TV is saying.

      • casper3031 March 31, 2023 / 11:37 pm

        “Yet not a single indictment has resulted.”
        Did you miss yesterday? And don’t forget Trump University, his charity and his company.

        “That’s what we have been saying all along—all those thousands of hours paid for by taxpayer money in frantic efforts to find something–ANYTHING—to hang on Trump, with nary a success among them all.”

        Thirty four counts this time. There will be more from Georgia and Jack Smith’s investigation. Investigators take time especially when dealing with someone like Trump who is a master at deflecting and stretching things out.

        Here is an idea. Why not wait to see what Trump is charged with before declaring him innocent. Maybe also look at the evidence.

      • Amazona April 1, 2023 / 12:23 am

        Yes, after something like 30 years of investigating without ever finding a single thing to charge Trump with, a man who ran on the promise of taking Trump down has claimed to have 34 indictments against him. As you say, we have no idea what they might be, but the entire effort has been focused on the fact that Trump’s lawyer paid some bimbo to stop claiming he had boinked her, and then billed Trump for this as a “legal expense”. That’s it. It takes the infamous Leftist Crystal Ball to intuit the secret thoughts and motives behind this simple sequence of events. It takes speculation and invention. Much more than that, it takes malice and malignance.

        Bragg has already refused to file charges on it, before the statute of limitations expired. The DOD said it was nothing. Nothing has changed since the, except the failure of Liz et al to smear Trump adequately. So now Bragg is inventing new law, trying to resurrect an expired non-charge and morph it into a state felony by claiming he knows the REAL reason this was done. Not to mention the new conviction that a city DA can prosecute a federal felony, even if one exists.

        And, naturally, this impresses you. But then you think it is up to Trump to prove he is innocent. That pesky old Constitution ain’t gonna get in your way, by gum!

        As for Georgia, that seems to hinge on the refusal to understand that to “find” something means to discover something that actually exists. When the foreman of the grand jury goes into media outlets to brag about achieving her personal goal of indicting him, people like you think that is just fine. Because you would do the same thing.

        All this is is election rigging. The J6 charade was all about rigging the next presidential election to prevent people from being able to vote for their preferred candidate. That is what this is attempting, as well, with its Plan B just to throw enough crap at the wall to convince the morons out there (like you) to think there is something there, there. So many of the 2016 and 2020 efforts to ramrod Democrats into the White House have been revealed and sometimes short-circuited by new laws, really all you can do is try to keep a strong candidate off the ticket—preemptive cheating, why wait till Election Day?—-or at the very least weaponizing as many government agencies and entities as possible to act as henchmen to try to influence the election.

        But what it comes down to is that you wouldn’t vote for Trump if he cured cancer, and you would vote for a Democrat, any Democrat, no matter what he did. So why the fussing about this? Why is it so important to you to try to convince us of the validity of your own toxic bias?

        And BTW, stop lying. No one here “declared him innocent”–except to cite the Constitutional concept that he is innocent until proven guilty. Is that what you are saying? That we should abandon the precept that is the foundation of our judicial system and stop saying a man is innocent in the eyes of the law until proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he is not?

        Are you claiming there is additional evidence? We know the payment was made, we know that the lawyer has had several conflicting versions of what happened and why, we know the lawyer is proved to be a perjurer, we know that it is not illegal to pay someone to shut up about something that is not and never was a crime, we know that the federal DOJ refused to take it seriously, we know that the current prosecutor refused to prosecute this, we know that the statute of limitations for prosecuting this even if it were a crime has passed, and we know that now the DA is trying to graft an expired accusation onto a federal felony to try to revive it. Are you saying there is MORE evidence than this? Is this what the voices in your head are telling you?

        Just waddle off and hate Trump all you want, but the why is it so important to convince us that you are right?

      • Amazona April 1, 2023 / 12:29 am

        the investigation against Trump is even less tenuous than the case against Edwards. It is based on the testimony of a convicted, serial liar and is only tangentially about campaign finance. The investigation is instead centered around falsified business records – a state-level crime – and uses campaign finance as the tool to have accomplished that. However, he was never charged with campaign finance violations, which are federal-level crimes. It seems legally difficult to prove him guilty on one charge if it’s based on other crimes he has never been charged with, much less convicted of.

        This is weaponized, dumb justice at its worst. This is vendetta politics, using the legal system as a way to take out a political opponent, and it’s going to backfire. This will end with egg on Bragg’s face and progressives sputtering with rage that they have once again failed to convict the Extremely Evil and Bad and Evil Orange Man.

        This is the first time an ex-president has been charged with a crime after leaving office. It is unprecedented, legally weak, and a sign that the left cares more about using the legal system to harass and arrest political opponents than it does about actual justice. This is exactly the type of weaponization of the legal system that conservatives have been warning about, and we’re seeing it come to pass right now.

      • Amazona April 1, 2023 / 12:37 am

        Jailing political opposition on shaky charges is the kind of thing we expect from corrupt dictatorships. It’s a precedent that tends to repeat itself, as it has in places like Haiti, where cycles of coup and repression become so common as to be expected.

        So, what will be the result of Bragg’s decision to indict? The message he’s sending isn’t that “nobody is above the law,” it’s that the “law” is out to get you if you disagree with the regime, whether you are guilty or not.

        That’s a dark road to embark on. We are approaching a Rubicon that will be very hard to uncross once the die is cast and criminally charging political opponents is normalized.

        People will begin to give up on self-government, they’ll assume that electoral defeat means tyranny or worse. They’ll resort to bullets over ballots. A dictator who protects you and jails your enemies will be seen as the lesser of two evils.

        We don’t want to live in that nightmare.

        Is this the moment our American republic became a banana republic? Maybe not quite. But the clownish Manhattan district attorney and his left-wing cheerleaders are doing their best to bring us to that pathetic end.

        And the left-wing cheerleaders are no less clownish, or less sinister regarding what they say about the possible future of our nation

      • Amazona April 1, 2023 / 1:00 am

        under Bragg’s theory, he could take any unproven federal crime and revive a long dead misdemeanor and turn it into a felony.

        And this just impresses the hell out of poor dope Casper. New York’s former DA, no Trump fan by any means, refused to prosecute. The Department of Justice said no. Bragg himself said no.

        But then the pressure from the Left started to build, and there is buzz that Bragg was promised the governor’s seat if he would come across on this. So he dug up a crime that Trump had never been accused of, grafted it onto a misdemeanor that had timed out after being rejected by literally every single prosecutor approached with, and got indictments based on this shaky legal concept.

        And remember (I’m not talking to Casper here, because he doesn’t know so can’t remember) in a Grand Jury only one side of any potential case is presented. The jurors hear only the government’s version of events and only the government’s interpretations of these events and of the law.

      • Mark Noonan April 1, 2023 / 12:46 am

        There is no evidence. If there was any evidence, it would have been charged years ago. He’s been combed over since 2015. There’s nothing there.

        But, we know that doesn’t matter to you – you’re precisely the sort of person Solzhenitsyn was writing about when he wrote, “you won’t understand until they hiss at *you*, ‘you’re under arrest'”. You think you’re immune. That they’d never come for you. That you are with the Party! Well, hate to break it to ya, Casper – tyrants *never* run out of people to jail. They have to keep jailing just to keep up the fear which justifies their continued rule. Eventually, those you think your allies will turn on you – you weren’t Left enough; you weren’t fast enough to follow the Latest Thing…you didn’t clap long enough when Dear Leader was mentioned.

        If you’re lucky, we’ll win and you’ll never have to face that and you’ll go on happy thinking you’ve been backing the good guys.

      • casper3031 April 1, 2023 / 1:16 am

        “As you say, we have no idea what they might be”.

        We can speculate as to what the charges are and could be right, but until we see then actual charging documents we don’t know for sure.

        “But then you think it is up to Trump to prove he is innocent. That pesky old Constitution ain’t gonna get in your way, by gum!”

        I think it’s up to Bragg to present a case proving that Trump’s guilty of the charges presented what ever they may be. That is what the Constitution asks.

        “As for Georgia, that seems to hinge on the refusal to understand that to “find” something means to discover something that actually exists. When the foreman of the grand jury goes into media outlets to brag about achieving her personal goal of indicting him, people like you think that is just fine. Because you would do the same thing.”

        The Grand jury you are speaking of could only make recommendations. It didn’t indict anyone. The case is now before a different grand jury which will decide whether or not to indict Trump. If it does so then again the charges will need to be proven in court.

        “But what it comes down to is that you wouldn’t vote for Trump if he cured cancer, and you would vote for a Democrat, any Democrat, no matter what he did. So why the fussing about this? Why is it so important to you to try to convince us of the validity of your own toxic bias?”

        Curing cancer would be a wonderful achievement and I be more than happy to honor a person that does so. It doesn’t mean the person would make a great president. Different skillsets. And I have voted for Republicans dozens of times. I was a Republican for 27 years. There are also a lot of Democrats I wouldn’t vote for. Would you vote for a Democrat?

        “Are you claiming there is additional evidence?”

        I’m assuming there probably is, but I haven’t seen stand have no idea how compelling it is.

        A number of posters have declared the charges bogus which sounds to me that you believe he is innocent.

      • Amazona April 1, 2023 / 10:34 am

        Don’t you have anything else to do, Captain Obvious, but hang around here trying to pretend you are having conversations with us when you bring absolutely nothing to the table? Such as this little nugget: “I think it’s up to Bragg to present a case proving that Trump’s guilty of the charges presented what ever they may be.”

        No shit, Sherlock. That’s a freaking BRILLIANT analysis. Thanks so much for explaining it to us.

        Of course, then you try to sound smart with “That is what the Constitution asks.” No, that is what the Constitution DEMANDS. I could almost hear you choke on having to agree that your need to “prove innocence” is unconstitutional.

        Here’s what I get from your pathetic efforts to sit at THIS table: You are bored, your new honeybunch won’t put up with your nattering of insipid platitudes and posturing as some kind of political pundit, and being surrounded by like-minded Leftists deprives you of the desire to feel that you are engaging in discourse. So you come slinking over here, trying to convince us that you not only want to be part of discussions but actually have something to say.

        But there is just something so downright unlikable about you, so cloying and smarmy and, to put it bluntly, stupid, that I think we’re just going to do what has always happened to you, and point to the empty chair and say “someone’s sitting there”. Cloying and smarmy and stupid could call for generosity and tolerance, if you didn’t mix it with so much toxicity and smugness. As it is, you are just invited to go find the political equivalent of the marginalized who are as needy as you are, and play silly games with them to let you feel important. To someone.

      • casper3031 April 1, 2023 / 1:29 am

        “the investigation against Trump is even less tenuous than the case against Edwards”

        Edwards was indicted same as Trump. Not convicted though which could also happen with Trump.

      • casper3031 April 1, 2023 / 1:34 am

        “There is no evidence. If there was any evidence, it would have been charged years ago. He’s been combed over since 2015. There’s nothing there.”

        Then it should be a pretty short trial.

      • Mark Noonan April 1, 2023 / 2:21 pm

        No, it will be a long, drawn out trial…they’ll want to keep it on the burner until election day, 2024 if Trump is the nominee. And they’ll get the conviction…it is a Manhattan jury after all and they’ll know what the Party expects of them.

  3. jdge1 March 31, 2023 / 4:04 am

    In relation to the topic on the last thread, I wonder if this sudden trend of some males gravitating toward feminizing is not really all that sudden but rather the dam breaking open, attributed in part to our constant and increasing exposure to estrogen like chemicals. Xenoestrogen chemicals can be found in plastics, pesticides, common household cleaning products, some soaps & shampoos, birth control pills, dental sealants, flame retardants, fragrances, and most all of our food sources to some degree including aquatic & land animals and crops due to their exposures. Even our drinking water has various levels of these chemicals as it is very difficult to filter them out.

    Tens of thousands of the endocrine system disruptors fill our environment where we continuously breath, consume and bath in them. High levels of these chemicals in infants due to exposure from their mothers has been shown to cause altered physiology including changes in physical development, delays in mental skills, and a number of other neurological effects. Additional effects include lower sperm count in men, premature development of the female sex organs which could contribute to early onset of their menstrual periods along with growth hormones being injected in certain animals like cows for milk production, a variety of birth defects, reproductive abnormalities, increases in several types of cancer and a negative impact on the immune system.

    I’ve read some research that indicated exposure to these chemicals has caused changes in genetic expressions triggering skewed sex ratios in certain animals & fish groups. Though I’ve no idea what the ramifications are in relation to humans, I suspect it could play a role in some male’s choices toward feminine inclinations.

    • jdge1 March 31, 2023 / 5:01 am

      Also, to differentiate, this gender dysphoria that is gaining traction is the excuse some men using to identify as female, to obtain preferential benefits in things like improved chances in sports recognition, use of female prisons for incarceration, and access to female locker rooms and dressing rooms. They are using the system that segments of society has allowed for no other reason than to game the system.

  4. Cluster March 31, 2023 / 9:38 am

    Trump is soon to become another American legend. His mugshot will be right next to Frank Sinatra’s, Johnny Cash’s, Elvis Pressley’s, and Jimi Hendrix’s … four other great American legends persecuted by a piece of shit government. This is the greatest gift Democrats could ever give to Trump. He will become larger than life, he will make millions off of his mugshot and every red blooded patriot will come to support him. #TRUMP2024

  5. Cluster March 31, 2023 / 9:41 am

    Did y’all see Caspers mindless repetition of “no one is above the law”???

    Really hard to believe that even a semi educated person could repeat that.

  6. Cluster March 31, 2023 / 9:47 am

    If you haven’t noticed yet … the war has begun

    ‘You ain’t seen nothing yet’: Humiliated DeSantis vows to hit back at Disney after it exploited obscure ‘Royal Clause’ loophole to strip his new Reedy Creek board of its power

    Tensions are rising faster by the day and this will end in bloodshed. America is in for some very interesting and violent times. And it’s about time conservatives show them who we are

    • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 10:03 am

      “Humiliated”? Dream on, haters

      • Cluster March 31, 2023 / 10:05 am

        More like “determined” … these piece of shit communists think they can bully us into submission. SHOW THEM WHO WE ARE … starting today.

      • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 10:11 am

        (T)he Governor appears to have had the rug pulled from under him after last-minute agreements were filed by Disney to prevent his officials from taking power.

        Sensationally, the dossier states that the provisions will remain in place until ’21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England living as of the date of this declaration’.

        This ‘last survivor’ is one-year-old Princess Lilibet of Sussex, who lives in California.

        So it’s going to come down to whether or not Disney had the legal authority to make these last minute changes.

  7. Cluster March 31, 2023 / 9:56 am

    It’s a good thing Nancy Pelosi is focused on Trump, because the district she represents and her constituents are doing very well …

    Gruesome toll of San Fran’s homelessness nightmare: Woman filmed saying she didn’t want medical treatment for flesh-eating disease on her feet has them AMPUTATED

  8. Cluster March 31, 2023 / 10:16 am

    The more I think about the indictment, the more I love it. I love being an outlaw against a communist regime. REJOICE. Jesus was persecuted too. We are in great company

    • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 10:26 am

      As I said, the only “fact” they have is that Trump’s lawyer paid some money to some woman. Everything else is projection, invention and imagination.

      It’s all: “We think he did it for this reason”. Oh yeah? Prove it. Nancy and Casper aside, the State has to prove intent, which can’t be done without proof of intent.

      For a guy who wants to run on a platform of reforming government corruption and abuse of power, it doesn’t get much better than a mess like this. It looks like Bragg and his office are going to have to be cited by the Election Commission for contributions to the Trump Campaign

    • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 10:28 am

      Jerry Wilson writes, on RedState:

      I am reminded of the meme, “If anyone ever asks you, ‘What would Jesus do?,’ remind them that flipping over tables and chasing people with a whip is within the realm of possibility.” Frankly, we, who are Christians, have had enough of the progressive lies and libel against us.

      This is why we fight against the bleating soulless ghouls. It is good against evil. We are God’s voice for good in this world. And we cannot let evil win. Ever.

      I’m down for some table-flipping. How about you?

      Just wait for this to be cited as “proof of incitement to violence” and branding of all Christians as terrorists.

      Oh, wait…..that’s already been done. Never mind.

      • Cluster March 31, 2023 / 11:38 am

        Jerry Wilson is spot on. I think this is the turning point that we have been waiting for. The communist Democrats have already incited violence, and acted out on it. It’s time we join the party. And make no mistake about this, the Democrats, their media, their DOJ, and their Judges are ALL communists. They have sold their souls and it’s time we exact revenge.

  9. Cluster March 31, 2023 / 12:15 pm

    Hey remember when Chuck Schumer threatened the lives of the Supreme Court justices? I do. Now let’s make sure Democrats face the “whirlwind”

  10. Retired Spook March 31, 2023 / 2:02 pm

    Daniel Horowitz has a great piece at the Blaze today in response to the Trump indictment.

    We cannot share a country with people who don’t fundamentally believe in equality under the law.

    • Cluster March 31, 2023 / 4:30 pm

      We should all be very concerned that “presumption of innocence”, an American bedrock principle, is no longer an ideal of the Democrat Party.

      They have become communists

      • Amazona March 31, 2023 / 8:33 pm

        Why shouldn’t presumption of innocence be kicked to the curb? After all, the J6 Star Chamber depositions of Trump supporters and allies tried to criminalize freedom of speech and assembly, and freedom of speech has been under attack for years, though only recently has it become blatant with calls for “reeducation” camps for those spouting “misinformation”.

        The 10th Amendment is despised and ignored in equal measure by the Left, and of course there is the effort to simply get rid of the 2nd.

    • Mark Noonan April 1, 2023 / 12:51 am

      Yep; it has to be us winning it all, or going our separate ways. Either we impose a system of law and logic on them, or we abandon them to their fate.

  11. Amazona March 31, 2023 / 9:01 pm

    Stephen King shaming Trump defenders because he ‘cheated on his wife’ does NOT go well

    I didn’t read all of the comments, which seemed to focus on JFK and Bill Clinton, so I guess it is possible that someone pointed out that Joe Biden was involved in a long-term adulterous relationship with a married woman, who was married to a friend of Joe’s and his first wife, who also babysat for the Biden kids.

    They only got caught when Joe, driving the friend’s Corvette with Jill in the passenger seat, got in a wreck. (After that marriage ended, Joe had to buy his own Corvette. Which was later featured in photos of Biden driving it after it had been stored next to sloppily packaged Top Secret and Classified documents in Joe’s garage. Corvettes have not been kind to Joe.)

    And come to think of it, neither has “Dr.” Jill.

  12. Retired Spook April 1, 2023 / 8:55 am

    I don’t often make predictions, particularly predictions of a political nature — just too many variables. But I think it’s a pretty safe bet to say the indictment of Trump in NY plus potential indictments in Georgia and DC are not intended to get a conviction, just disrupt his presidential campaign by keeping him bogged down in the courts. It shouldn’t be long before it becomes obvious or I’m proven wrong.

    • Amazona April 1, 2023 / 10:51 am

      I think you’re right. I am surprised that Bragg actually did indict. I think Trump pushed him into it, as the whole “walls are closing in” theme was the main feature, not what this actually represented. It was all about keeping headlines screaming about INDICTMENTS INDICTMENTS INDICTMENTS to keep the uber-gullible, the clueless like Casper, all excited and waiting for the next shoe to drop because they are so sure it will, finally, be the end of Trump.

      The thing is, you can’t bluff forever, and at some point you’ve got to show your hand. So now Bragg has been forced to lay down his cards, and now it’s all a game of the lemmings breathlessly speculating on what they are. Now it’s a sleight of hand play, trying to convey the idea that there is sooooooo much more there than we have been told, and boyohboy it’s gonna be great when you get to see it, yessirree. So now that they have indicted, the big story is that we just don’t know what those 34 charges are. But it’s very hard to believe they found something that has not already been gone over by the feds and the state and rejected.

      The Dems are telegraphing two things: One is that they are so flat-out terrified of Trump that they will go the mattresses to defeat him, in any way, by any means, and the other is that they are so cocky and convinced of the success of their demonizing him as a person that none of their base will take a harder look at this and stray off the path.

      Actually, they are telegraphing three things, the third being the desperate and growing need to keep Joe Biden off camera and out of the minds of the people.

      I expect Trump’s team to make a very big deal out of “put up or shut up” to pressure these election-riggers to show us what they’ve got.

      • Retired Spook April 1, 2023 / 11:10 am

        If Trump really does turn himself in, I fully expect his lawyers to issue a motion to dismiss, and if that fails, to demand a speedy trial. I think if this first indictment falls as flat as we think it will, the other two will probably wither on the vine. There’s probably more than a little desire on the part of each of these prosecutors to be THE ONE who finally takes down Donald Trump, but if Bragg ends up looking silly, incompetent and vindictive if may cause the other two to have second thoughts. We’ll see soon enough.

        Alan Dershowitz has his usual scholarly analysis of the indictment.

        “I think the most important thing is they indicted him when he was out of New York, and that means they could have indicted him within the statute of limitations when he was out of New York. The statute of limitations is way expired,” Dershowitz explained on Newsmax. “They claimed they couldn’t have indicted him because he was outside of New York, but now they’ve indicted him when he’s not in New York.”

        Dershowitz added that Bragg made a “foolish, foolish decision, which will cause the case to be thrown out, I think, on statute of limitations grounds.”

        A scholar of American criminal law, Dershowitz predicted Trump’s attorneys will file an immediate motion to dismiss the case based on statute of limitations grounds.

      • Amazona April 1, 2023 / 11:32 am

        Here’s one of the topics the INDICTMENT furor is supposed to overshadow:

        The House Oversight Committee launched an investigation into the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), which worked with big tech companies and the Democratic National Committee to have posts censored. The committee accused CISA of framing dissenting opinions as cyber threats to critical infrastructure and leveraging partnerships with left-leaning private organizations to take action against unfavorable political speech.

        “CISA is framing any dissenting opinion disseminated online as a cyber threat to critical infrastructure,” the Oversight Committee said in a letter to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. “CISA leverages partnerships with left-leaning private organizations – who have received millions of dollars in federal money – to identify and then take action against political speech unfavorable to the Administration, especially around its handling of COVID-19 policy.”

        Hmmmm. ” to identify and then take action against political speech unfavorable to the Administration, especially around its handling of COVID-19 policy.” Using federal funds to identify and then take actions against political speech unfavorable to the Administration is bad enough, but given my personal focus on what I see as a multi-billion-dollar scam revolving around the government forcing people to take a drug while protecting the drug companies from liabilities for damages from the drugs and funneling billions of dollars to those companies after guaranteeing their product will be sold I really zeroed in on the last part of that statement: especially around its handling of COVID-19 policy.

        That appears to me to be another layer of the whole Covid corruption scheme. We know the government forced people to take the drugs. We know the government refused to force the drug companies to complete testing. We know that by extending the “Emergency” status of the pandemic the government allowed the drug companies to continue providing partially tested drugs, as well as protecting those companies from liability. We know the government funneled billions and billions of dollars to those drug companies to pay for the drugs the government forced people to take, And now we learn that when it came to efforts by the public to discuss the Covid-19 policies the government was complicit in not only shutting down this effort but in citing any dissenting opinion disseminated online as a cyber threat to critical infrastructure,

        While there is all this squealing and foot-stomping over whether or not a $130,000 payment to an extortionist constitutes a “contribution in kind” to a political campaign by trying to affect public opinion of that candidate, behind the curtain we see the federal government, through an agency “leveraging partnerships with left-leaning private organizations” to not only silence political opposition but label it as dangerous to the security of the nation. No wonder INDICTMENTS is getting all the attention.

        During the Thursday hearing, Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry suggested that federal employees should face serious consequences if found to have pressured technology companies into censoring opposing viewpoints, according to the Washington Times. Landry detailed what he called a “vast censorship enterprise” that reached deep into the Biden administration. Wouldn’t that be interesting? To see people actually held accountable for their actions?

    • Jeremiah April 1, 2023 / 3:21 pm

      It’s obvious interference in the 2024 Presidential election.

  13. Retired Spook April 1, 2023 / 11:11 am

    BTW, Amazona, check your email.

    • Retired Spook April 1, 2023 / 3:27 pm

      Still laughing. The next thing you know, someone will re-do the Hitler bunker scene reflecting Trump’s arrest.

  14. Amazona April 1, 2023 / 3:51 pm

    Trump Raises Over $4 Million in 24 Hours Since Indictment

    Wouldn’t the indictment be considered a contribution in kind to the Trump campaign?

    If they try to pull off what one of the legal experts said might be behind the number or “34” by citing each separate action as its own individual crime, then it might be 34 separate contributions in kind. Oh, my!

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