Trump and MAGA Won’t Go Away

I didn’t watch the Trump town hall on CNN because, well, it was on CNN and I’ll be dead and in the cold, cold ground before I give them any ratings. But I did monitor the reactions on Twitter.

The MAGA folks were, of course, entirely thrilled with Trump’s performance. Discount that: that could easily be just partisan confirmation bias.

Never Trump: from the first minute were calling it an unmitigated disaster. Discount that: just as easily confirmation bias. But I did notice something…as the night wore on, the later Never Trump comments about it were “well, he talked too much about the 2020 election and nobody cares about that” and “Trump is doomed because everyone cares about January 6th.”

That was all extreme wish-casting. I don’t know how many people actually care about the 2020 vote…but even those who don’t care, if they aren’t committed anti-Trumpers, all pretty much agree that there was quite a lot of illegality and impropriety in the vote. People believe this because it was obvious. As I’ve asked people (and never get a response on), “they covered up the windows in the counting rooms because ____?”. They can’t answer it. They never will answer it. Because the only answer to “why did you hide the count?” is “because we were stuffing the ballot boxes”.

Nobody cares about January 6th. The Democrats and their MSM lapdogs (seconded by the chihuahua-like yapping of Never Trump types) tried to make the J6 hearings into another Watergate and nobody cared. Mostly nobody cares because nothing really happened that day save for the unfortunate shooting of an unarmed and peaceful demonstrator (which, of course, the J6 boosters never talk about). At the end of the day, with a little bit of rowdiness early on, the Establishment got what they wanted on J6: Pudding Brain certified as the winner. You’re not allowed to complain about things going your way: and the complaints they make about J6 merely seem like pathetic whining.

But it was the Left comments which were most telling: they were ballistic over it. I mean completely unhinged. It was like their world was coming to an end…because Trump, to all appearances, was calm, cool, collected, funny and made some really telling points in response to the gotcha questions of the host.

Pay attention to that: if the Left is pissed off about it, then it worked out well for Trump.

I’ve said for a while now – and it remains true – and plenty of Trump voters are willing to move on. DeSantis is the obvious first choice with Vivek Ramaswamy being the surprising second choice. There is a rational case to make for dropping Trump in favor of some other tool we think may be better suited to break down the Establishment and restore America. But as I’ve also been saying – and I’ve said it since 2015 when I was opposing Trump for the nomination – that the only way to beat Trump is to out-Trump him.

One very particular thing came up in that town hall which is getting little play is Trump’s proposal to pardon most J6 detainees. This has caused monkey-screeches from the Left, of course, while the DeSantis people are (very reasonably) pointing out that Trump could have done that January 7th. But the really crucial thing about it is Trump rising to the defense of the J6 detainees. If DeSantis really wants to break down Trump’s core support – and DeSantis will have to do this to beat Trump – then it should have been DeSantis calling for this first. And that, in my view, is the breakdown in the DeSantis effort: for all the good things he’s doing (and they are fantastic, with the education reforms holding the most long-term potential for us), he’s yet to show to the Trumpsters that he will go to war with the Establishment. Going after Disney: Great. Going after Drag Queen Story Time: Wonderful. But these are fairly run-of-the-mill GOP positions now (being anti-Corporate has actually been taking hold on the right for about ten years). DeSantis needs to pick out a position which is so Trump-y that Trump hasn’t got there yet. The J6 people were the easiest. Now he’ll have to find something else.

What can DeSantis do? That will be up to him but if I were in his position, I’d announce that if elected, every person who illegally crossed the border after January 20th, 2021 will be deported regardless of circumstances. No refugees, no Dreamers: no nothing. I’d announce it as the only means to tell these people that they can’t take advantage of an Administration too corrupt to control the border. That no matter how well they try to blend in before January 20th, 2025, they will be deported. Alternately, DeSantis can call for a suspension of American aid to Ukraine by X Date unless Ukraine agrees to peace talks with Russia. The main thing here is to take something that the Establishment wants very badly (open borders, endless war, etc) and propose to take it away. That demonstrates a willingness to fight: and that is what DeSantis must do if he wants to transfer the love the Trumpsters feel over to himself.

Because that is the key to it all and so far nobody gets it. They call the Trumpsters “MAGAts” or “Trump Cultists” or what have you. They don’t realize that for these people, supporting Trump is an act of love. A pledge to America and to future greatness. You’ll only get them over to you if you give them a reason to love you more. And, hey, maybe they are misguided. Maybe they’re not seeing some crucial things. But anyone who has ever experienced love knows that you can’t talk someone out of it…you bend with it. But it is also important to understand that love – real love – is a matter of loving the beloved before they are lovable. The anti-Trump people keep trying to make Trump seem hateful when all that does is make those who love him love him even more. They see the flaws. They are not blind. But that doesn’t deter the lover. In fact, it makes the true lover even more devoted. You can’t break that by shouting insults. You can only break it by loving even more than they do.

This is why I pointed out to various people who have recently been calling for Trump to back out over his legal troubles that they are making a huge mistake. They aren’t helping their cause, at all. They are, in fact, shooting themselves in the foot. And in two ways:

  1. First off, they are essentially going along with a Democrat op. A “get Trump” effort which has entirely divorced itself from law or any sense of decency as it seeks to destroy Trump by any means necessary. Calling for Trump to back out is merely to play along with a smear. And if it actually worked, then that smear would then be turned on the next guy and the next and the next and the next.
  2. It is alienating Trump supporters. Every time a Never Trump Conservative calls for Trump to back out or be pushed out, it simply tightens up Trump’s support. It makes his supporters ever more willing to stick with him. The proper tactic to take here is to relentlessly attack the Democrat effort as the illegal, unjust and cruel effort it is. That way when you talk to Trumpsters, they’ll listen.

I don’t know how this will come out. I’m still very certain that we’re going to lose next year. But this is primarily because I see the divisions in the Right. They are fostered by the Left and they are setting MAGA and anti-Trump at each other’s throats and convincing them to take Only Trump or Never Trump positions, respectively. Blood is getting up and heads are getting down and whomever emerges with the GOP nomination will find a fractured GOP going up against a united Democrat Party with endless supplies of money, the MSM and a paid army of influencers at every level. I think it will still end up a close race (Pudding Brain is monumentally unpopular), but I do believe that they shove him over the finish line…even if it once again takes some manufactured votes in key States (there will be less of this in 2024 than in 2020 because no Covid and some law changes…but there’s still just enough wiggle room in just enough States to allow some last-minute vote creation to tip the scales).

But however it comes out, the key to victory in 2024 or any future race will have to be the anti-Trump people making their peace with MAGA. This means ditching entirely all MSM talking points about Trump (after all, what the Trump haters hate about Trump is all stuff the MSM told them without having a shred of evidence to back it up). It means talking positively about MAGA. It means acknowledging – without any hedging – the good things Trump accomplished while at the same time agreeing with the obvious: he would have been able to do to a lot more if the GOP leadership and pundit classes had backed him up, as they were morally obligated to do.

Trump isn’t going away. His supporters aren’t going way. You can’t win without Trump and MAGA. It is just the plain facts of life. You can’t “move on” from Trump in the sense of ditching him and pretending he didn’t happen and that his voters will get back into the Neo-Con, Globalist loser fold. You have to show MAGA that you love them; that you want them; that you care about them and will do your best for them. This will require the adoption by everyone in the GOP of large aspects of Trumpist policy and attitudes. Or you can cope and seethe about it as you lose.

60 thoughts on “Trump and MAGA Won’t Go Away

  1. Retired Spook May 11, 2023 / 8:10 am

    This is pretty funny, especially coming from the network that got caught rigging a truck to explode and editing a 911 tape to make someone appear racist.

  2. Cluster May 11, 2023 / 9:26 am

    Who saw it and what do you think?

    I watched the Townhall and thought … Trump is still Trump and Kaitlyn Collins showed me why not a lot people watch CNN. Trump is unvarnished, unpolished (still) and unscripted but he still clearly defines the problems with all the nuances and comes from the perspective of a clear thinking adult.

    Kaitlyn? She came across as a 5th grade mean girl with the intellect to match. At one point she kept asking Trump if he wanted “Putin to win”, effectively reducing the rampaging murderous war to who wins and loses While Trump was detailing the history, the people, the region, the strengths and weaknesses of both countries, and why the conflict arose, Kaitlyn kept asking if he wanted Putin to win. This is how children think. This is how CNN thinks. This is how Democrats think. No nuance. It’s just who wins or loses.

    There were many more instances likes this throughout the interview and personally, I thought Kaitlyn embarrassed herself.

  3. Cluster May 11, 2023 / 9:54 am

    Here’s another “media” outtake on the Townhall

    …. as the former president held court and moderator Kaitlan Collins tried to keep control

    “tried to keep control” lol, of what? Is it her job to “control” the Townhall? To make sure only the right questions were asked? To make sure no “misinformation” was spread??

    Tucker is 100% correct … ALL AMERICAN MEDIA IS PROPAGANDA. Even the “conservative” outlets.

  4. Cluster May 11, 2023 / 10:15 am

    Yesterday it was revealed that the Biden family has been profiting off Joe’s position in the US Government for years, taking in millions of dollars from adversaries throughout the world. The Bidens have set up 20 LLC’s to conceal and distribute the money to many Biden family members. Two of the countries are Ukraine and China; the former of which has received over $113 billion in US taxpayer money, and the former having flown a spy balloon across the continental United States completely unchallenged.

    The Bidens have no tangible business. They do not make any products, nor do they offer any tangible services, so why would foreign countries be so eager to enrich the Biden family? Amazingly enough, the American media has no interest in finding out why. But they sure are focused on how mean and dangerous Trump can be.

    It’s not acceptable to me to allow this to continue. This is a tired old cliche BUT it is more true today than ever before. This country is on the precipice and complacency is not an option.

  5. jdge1 May 11, 2023 / 5:10 pm

    According to our government, there were 214.8 million working age Americans. There were also 148.3 million tax returns filed. That leaves about 66 million of working age who did not file taxes. Assuming these are all unemployed, that’s about 20% of the population.

    So, what’s the real number of unemployed? The numbers listed below only do not include the significant number of small companies or other business affected.

    Companies with layoffs in 2023:
    • Shopify mass layoffs: 20% of workforce laid off (May 2023)
    • Morgan Stanley layoffs: 5% of workforce laid off (May 2023)
    • David’s Bridal layoffs: 83% of workforce laid off (April 2023)
    • Roku layoffs: 6% of workforce laid off (March, 2023)
    • Lucid Group layoffs: 18% of workforce laid off (March, 2023)
    • Meta layoffs: 13% of workforce laid off (March, 2023)
    • Twitter layoffs: 10% of workforce laid off (February, 2023)
    • Twillo layoffs: 17% of workforce laid off (February, 2023)
    • Roomba layoffs: 7% of workforce laid off (February, 2023)
    • Disney layoffs: 3% of workforce laid off (February, 2023)
    • Zoom layoffs: 15% of workforce laid off (February, 2023)
    • Dell layoffs: 5% of workforce laid off (February, 2023)
    • HubSpot layoffs: 7% of workforce laid off (February, 2023)
    • PayPal layoffs: 7% of workforce laid off (February, 2023)
    • IBM layoffs: 1.5% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Gemini layoffs: 10% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Yankee Candle layoffs: 13% of office workers laid off (January, 2023)
    • 3M layoffs: <1% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Spotify layoffs: 6% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Google (Alphabet) layoffs: 6% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Microsoft layoffs: 4-5% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Amazon layoffs: 1-2% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Carta layoffs: 10% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Coinbase layoffs: 20% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • DirecTV layoffs: 5-6% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Salesforce layoffs: 10% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Vimeo layoffs: 11% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Goldman Sachs layoffs: 8% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)
    • Compass layoffs: size of layoffs not immediately known (January, 2023)
    • Stitch Fix layoffs: 20% of workforce laid off (January, 2023)

    Companies with layoffs in 2022:
    • Cisco layoffs: 5% of workforce laid off (December, 2022)
    • DoorDash layoffs: 6% of workforce laid off (November, 2022)
    • Candy Digital layoffs: 33% of workforce laid off (November, 2022)
    • Redfin layoffs: 13% of workforce laid off(November, 2022)
    • Amazon layoffs: 1% of workforce laid off beginning (November, 2022)
    • Meta layoffs: 13% of workforce laid off (November, 2022)
    • Twitter layoffs: 50% of workforce laid off (November, 2022)
    • Zillow layoffs: 5% of workforce laid off (October, 2022)
    • Peloton layoffs: 12% of workforce laid off (October, 2022)
    • DocuSign layoffs: 9% of workforce laid off (September, 2022)
    • Taboola layoffs: 6% of workforce laid off (September, 2022)
    • Snapchat layoffs: 20% of workforce laid off (September, 2022)
    • Outbrain layoffs: 3% of workforce laid off (July, 2022)
    • Lyft layoffs: 2% of workforce laid off (July, 2022)
    • The Mom Project layoffs: 15% of workforce laid off (July, 2022)
    • Opensea layoffs: 20% of workforce laid off (July, 2022)
    • Substack layoffs: 14% of workforce laid off (June, 2022)
    • Ninantic layoffs: 8% of workforce laid off (June, 2022)
    • MasterClass layoffs: 20% of workforce laid off (June, 2022)
    • Bird layoffs: 23% of workforce laid off (June, 2022)
    • Superhuman layoffs: 22% of workforce laid off (June, 2022)
    • Cameo layoffs: 25% of workforce laid off (May, 2022)
    • Robinhood layoffs: 9% of workforce laid off (April, 2022)
    • Virgin Hyperloop layoffs: 50% of workforce laid off (February, 2022)
    • Peloton layoffs: 20% of workforce laid off (February, 2022)
    • Beachbody layoffs: 10% of workforce laid off (January, 2022)

    • Cluster May 12, 2023 / 11:54 am

      That’s a frightening list

    • Retired Spook May 12, 2023 / 12:10 pm

      According to our government, there were 214.8 million working age Americans. There were also 148.3 million tax returns filed. That leaves about 66 million of working age who did not file taxes.

      Does that take into account the fact that most married couples who both work file joint returns.? Just curious.

  6. jdge1 May 11, 2023 / 5:19 pm

    Homeless Man Charged with Hate Crimes After Defecating on Pride Flags

    So destruction of an American Flag with any means other than proper burning is protected speech but defecating on a pride flag is a crime? Only in la-la land are such absurdities considered the norm.

    • Mark Noonan May 11, 2023 / 11:57 pm

      Every civilization has blasphemy laws and strictly enforces them – the post-Christian West is a civilization. Dying and stupid, but one nonetheless…and they will defend their sacred symbols and practices against the heathen.

  7. Amazona May 11, 2023 / 9:33 pm

    Mark, you say … I do believe that they shove him (Biden) over the finish line…even if it once again takes some manufactured votes in key States (there will be less of this in 2024 than in 2020 because no Covid and some law changes…but there’s still just enough wiggle room in just enough States to allow some last-minute vote creation to tip the scales)

    This is a very gloomy but certainly possible outcome of the election. I haven’t seen anything to make me think that Trump is attracting new voters. He still has most of his base, which is still ardent and passionate about him, but he needs to attract independents and some Dems and I just don’t see that happening. The only saving grace I can see is the lack of enthusiasm for Biden, which might override anti-Trump sentiment enough for a lot of Dems to just sit out the election rather than go out to vote against Trump.

    So what can we do, out here in the hinterland, to help avoid having this election stolen again? I’ve thought of having large numbers of poll watchers congregating to oversee mailed ballots, demanding to inspect each and every envelope and challenging any that do not meet the election laws of that state. This would require some steadfastness and even willingness to get physical, but with adequate documentation of the effort and of efforts to block this it might be possible to rein in some of the ballot fraud. And as we know, most if not all of it stems from mailed-in ballots. Filing a report from witnesses documented by video, of X number of illegitimate ballots being accepted and counted as valid votes would be evidence of an inaccurate final vote count.

    What I keep coming back to is the possibility of putting a lot of pressure on whichever entity is in charge of certifying the vote count in each state. In some states this is the legislature, in some it is the Secretary of State. It’s not too late to pass laws regarding the legal duties of those entities to only certify vote counts that are actually certifiable, or at least there could be a serious campaign to let them know that if they certify vote counts that are clearly not accurate they will be sued, if not charged with the crime of false certification, would make them take the job more seriously.

    I keep coming back to the AZ vote count, because the numbers were so specific. Something like 4000 people were found to have voted though not living in Arizona. That was verifiable, and verified. It was not speculation. Based on that figure alone, there was no way the state could “certify” a vote count because there was simply no way to know who got those votes. But in AZ there were also verified ballots cast by dead people, by people not registered, and by people who voted twice. There is literally no way to separate those fraudulent votes from the total, meaning that there is literally no way say with any certainty who got how many votes.

    And that is the sole purpose of an election—to be able to know who got how many votes.

    When an election is tampered with, that certainty cannot exist. And without it, true certification cannot exist.

    The problem is, certification of vote counts in federal elections has become a rubber stamping of whatever number is presented, even with absolute knowledge that the figures are not accurate. When we look at all the elements of an election and opportunity for fraud, we still come down to the legal responsibility of certifiers to only do so when and if they have confidence in the accuracy of the numbers they are certifying.

    So let’s find ways to hold these people accountable. Let’s demand that they take their jobs seriously, and not symbolically. Let’s start a movement to demand that the legislatures, and/or Secretaries of State, actually do their jobs and only certify vote counts that can reasonably be proved to be accurate. If there is a legislative session before the next election demand that a bill be presented and passed conveying consequences for blatantly false certification. That would mean that if a legislature, for example, were to be presented with proofs like those from Arizona they simply could not ignore them and certify numbers proven to be inaccurate. This would, at the very least, mean that the margin between the top candidates would have to be larger than the number of proven bad votes. That would make cheating a lot harder.

    I’m not sure if there could be a class action suit for damages filed by people from the losing party, but it would be worth looking into. Certainly an honest AG could file criminal charges for false certification.

    This is really the only way I can think of to put the average citizen in charge of election integrity.

    • Mark Noonan May 11, 2023 / 10:20 pm

      A lawsuit just in discovery would be invaluable…but the first hurdle would be finding a judge who agrees that the plaintiffs have standing. That is usually how they shut these things down: you can’t prove you were personally harmed! When that doesn’t work, they fall back on, “well, you should have sued before the election”…unless you do in which case they tell you you’ll have to sue after the election, when you’ll be ruled not to have standing. Lake’s efforts in Arizona show how hard it is even when the written law is clearly on your side.

      Getting a good AG who would really go after this stuff is also ideal – but we’ve a long way to go on that because, as we’ve found, a huge number of supposed Conservatives elected in Red States are really just Liberals who run as Republicans because that’s how you get into office. That is changing but probably not fast enough for 2024.

      OTOH, for a bit of positive news…I saw a townhall video today where the residents of a Chicago district were going ballistic over a plan to house 500 illegal immigrants in their community. You could see that the people complaining were working and middle class and mostly POC…and simply furious that this was being pushed on them when their own communities need things done. Things are getting really bad out there and we’re about to have an illegal immigration catastrophe deliberately and maliciously fostered by Team Pudding Brain. It could be millions of people just over a few months…they’re going to overwhelm welfare systems, cause crime and chaos. We could be on the verge of something so bad and so large that even the regime propagandists of the MSM aren’t able to control the Narrative for Biden. This could have a major effect on how things go in 2024.

    • Cluster May 12, 2023 / 9:37 am

      Keep in mind, we only need to worry about 5 States – AZ, NV, WI, PA, and GA. These swing states are where the Democrats focus their efforts, and all we need there is stronger verification efforts. This can be done by scrubbing the voter rolls and requiring 100% signature verification and photo ID, something that current partisan judges are denying. Katie Hobbs “won” by just a few thousand votes, and the Lake campaign has proven that there are 10’s of thousands of ballots without signature verification. This is not voter fraud, it’s ballot fraud.

      • Amazona May 12, 2023 / 10:57 am

        That’s why I think we should have a large contingent of ballot watchers onsite when ballots are unpacked so every single envelope is examined and photographed–and not with cell phone cameras but real cameras. A careful and documented record of how many illegitimate envelopes were received should be made. I don’t know how to mark the enclosed ballots to indicate that they came from unsigned envelopes but there should be a way.

        But we need a backup plan, because illegitimate votes WILL be counted. We might be able to slow down the process, but it will happen. And that is why I think we should establish a final hurdle to pass before a vote tally can be accepted.

        As I said, look at Arizona. Those out-of-state voters had their votes counted, and once they were counted they were in the fungible stream of votes and could never be identified and removed. All we could do was take note that they were there, and not legitimate. Ditto for the double-voters and unregistered voters. We need to have a way to deal with the votes once they enter the vote stream along with the valid votes.

        And the only way I can think of to do that is to have a law, or extreme pressure on legislatures and/or Secretaries of State, to refuse to certify vote tallies when there is proof of a significant number of illegitimate votes. That has to be the firewall.

        So the certifying agency, whatever it might be, would be presented with absolute proof that there is literally no way to know who got how many legitimate votes, and if it goes ahead and “certifies” a provably uncertifiable vote count there is a legal action to disallow that false certification

      • Amazona May 12, 2023 / 11:00 am

        the Lake campaign has proven that there are 10’s of thousands of ballots without signature verification.—yet the vote count was “certified”. Who certifies in Arizona—the legislature or the Secretary of State?

      • Cluster May 12, 2023 / 11:59 am

        Statewide certification is done county by county called a canvass and county officials certify each counties results. There were two counties in AZ who refused to certify

        I appreciate the need for stronger more effective laws, BUT we need to remove the Leftist judges who enforce, or more appropriately, don’t enforce current laws. Though remember, all the rules were changes as a result of manufactured pandemic, and those rules still remain

      • Amazona May 12, 2023 / 12:57 pm

        Thanks for this information. It is clearly more complex than I had realized. I found this, regarding Arizona:

        County supervisors have a non-discretionary duty to certify the results, and have “no authority to change vote totals or reject the election results,” according to the Election Procedures Manual.

        The certification of results is what is known as a “ministerial act,” according to Barton and lawyer Tom Ryan. If supervisors vote against certifying, the secretary of state, a voter, candidate or voting rights group will quickly file a lawsuit to force them, Barton said, and the court is unlikely to allow it.

        “They will be hit with a writ of mandamus so fast their head will spin,” Ryan said.

        For her part, Lorick sent a letter to Cochise County supervisors on Monday warning them that “bad faith attempts to derail Arizona’s democracy will not go unaddressed.”

        Barton and Ryan said that they couldn’t think of a reason why a court would not demand certification in this case.

        So according to this, in Arizona at least the certification process IS merely a symbolic rubber stamping of whatever figures are given. Which makes “certification” a sham.

        I don’t know about other states.

      • Amazona May 12, 2023 / 1:05 pm

        The article I cited is biased, but I think the basic information is correct. So maybe it is time for activists to challenge the core concept of the law, which is that no matter what figures are provided by the canvassing, no matter what frauds or other discrepancies are found, the state has no option but to “certify” even though there is awareness that the numbers are false.

        This article basically says that the state will force people to swear to the accuracy of a figure (which is what the term “certify” means) which to me means the state can force people to break the law.

        Arizona Laws 28-4153. False certification or affirmation……………….
        Current as of: 2022 | Check for updates | Other versions
        A person who makes a false certification or affirms falsely to any matter or thing required by section 28-4152 to be certified or affirmed is guilty of a class 2 misdemeanor.

        This applies specifically to claims regarding vehicles, etc. but if it a crime to falsely certify something like mileage or vehicle condition, why isn’t it a crime to falsely certify a proven bogus vote count, which affects the entire nation?

      • Amazona May 12, 2023 / 1:24 pm

        It looks to me like the whole certification process needs examination and revision. For example, Congress can vote to accept a certification even if it is challenged, which puts the matter firmly in the hands of national politics.

        Later in the evening, Congress considered objections to the electoral results in Pennsylvania. When it came time to vote, the Colorado tallies were similar.

        Boebert and Lamborn objected to certifying Pennsylvania’s results, Buck did not vote, and the state’s House Democrats again voted to certify the election.

        In the Senate, Bennet and Hickenlooper voted to certify Pennsylvania’s results.

        In other words, even though the vote count presented by Pennsylvania was challenged, that was overridden by Democrats in Congress.

        My point is, certification is supposed to mean something, is supposed to be the last step in assuring a fair and accurate election, and it is now meaningless. A blatantly false vote count can be, and often is, “certified”. A state can force certification of a vote count no matter how defective it might be. Congress can override a state’s hesitation to assert accuracy of a vote count. If Congress can force the acceptance of a vote tally then the outcome of an election can be determined by the majority in Congress and not the citizens of the states themselves. That just seems very wrong.

      • Cluster May 12, 2023 / 1:28 pm

        It is all very wrong, and it may take a few election cycles to overcome. We have to combat the ballot fraud first, then work on how those ballots are certified.

      • Amazona May 12, 2023 / 4:08 pm

        Nothing is going to change if we don’t demand it now, and start energetically working to communicate and explain the defects of the system and trying to change it.

  8. Cluster May 12, 2023 / 1:13 pm

    Ben Shapiro has a good take on the Trump Townhall

    Moderator Kaitlin Collins, presumably, would ask questions that Republican voters cared about. They would then be able to use Trump’s answers to gauge whether to vote for him.

    That’s not what happened.

    Instead, Collins asked a series of questions only Democrats care about. She asked about Jan. 6. She asked about Trump’s election denial. She asked about classified documents. She asked about E. Jean Carroll. In short, Collins provided Trump with precisely what he wanted: an adversarial CNN foe he could absolutely pummel, to the delight of the friendly crowd. The entire event played to Trump’s strengths: he was aggressive; he was funny, and transgressively funny at that (of E. Jean Carroll, he noted disbelievingly, “her cat was named Vagina!”); and he refused to give an inch on any of his positions.

    • Retired Spook May 12, 2023 / 3:53 pm

      (of E. Jean Carroll, he noted disbelievingly, “her cat was named Vagina!”)

      I about fell of my chair laughing when I heard that. As I may have mentioned before, I actually know Jeanie Carroll. She was in my wife’s class in high school, and I’ve spoken to her at a couple of their reunions.

      • Amazona May 12, 2023 / 4:08 pm

        Just don’t go into a changing room with her.

      • Retired Spook May 12, 2023 / 4:26 pm

        I’ve spoken to a couple of people who know her pretty well, and they both said they wouldn’t put it past her to make up such a story to sell books. The fact that she’s not even sure what year it was is telling. I’ve never been sexually assaulted, but I think that’s something that would be seared in your memory.

  9. jdge1 May 12, 2023 / 8:33 pm

    Pa. Agrees to Purge 178K Ineligible Voters from Dirty Records after Lawsuit

    While it’s a small fix in the big picture, it’s a start.

    “Judicial Watch’s remarkable run of litigation successes resulted in well over 2 million ineligible registrations being removed from voter rolls across the nation in the last two years,” he said.

  10. jdge1 May 12, 2023 / 8:48 pm

    WTF?: Calif. ‘Reparations’ Panel Demands Repeal of Racial Discrimination Ban

    Once again, leftist take steps to plunge us into more chaos. It’s as though they have absolutely idea about the law of “unintended consequences” (unless of course total mayhem and chaos IS their intended endgame).

    I can’t imagine how this is expected to pass constitutional law, but I’m guessing they don’t care and are happy to expend right side resources on these absurd things until they can think up more nonsensical ways to screw things up. In other words, they will push things through the back door while you’re paying attention to the commotion at the front, something they do all the time when they need you to take your eyes off a glaring problem that’s front & center.

    The amendment in question is Proposition 209, which California voters approved in 1996. The measure amended the state Constitution to note that, “The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting.”

  11. jdge1 May 12, 2023 / 8:58 pm

    So, Musk has hired a WEF globalist to run Twitter. Free speech – interesting concept while it lasts.

    • Cluster May 13, 2023 / 9:27 am

      That is disappointing

  12. jdge1 May 12, 2023 / 9:11 pm

    Two Unborn Babies Were Killed to Make Controversial Three-Parent Baby

    Talk about the law of “unintended consequences”, there’s this gem that recently came to light as we disregard human ethics.

  13. jdge1 May 12, 2023 / 9:39 pm

    Florida has passed legislation related to unions, similar to what Wisconsin did a few years back. There was a time (way back) that unions provided some value to the working class, when union bosses found out how lucrative and powerful this enterprise was, it stopped being “for the worker” and instead became a means of coercion to feed the elite. What made it worse was when the elite union bosses and politicians got together to strengthen their stranglehold on control, in a series of “you pat my back, I’ll pat yours” that worked counterintuitive to the interest of the country, especially the middle class.

  14. Cluster May 13, 2023 / 9:49 am

    IMHO, the only ticket that can overcome the cheating by Democrats in the swing states (see link below of unmatching signatures in AZ of which there are more than 17,000) is ……


    Like him or not, I think everyone realizes that Trump is who we need to right the ship as soon as possible while DeSantis is the sift landing and bridge to future. And I do think the overwhelming majority of all Americans will vote for this ticket. This has to happen

    • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 10:11 am

      (1) I don’t think there is a law saying both candidates have to be from different states, but it’s certainly a tradition. The usual approach is to try to have candidates from different parts of the country.

      (2) I don’t see De Santis as a #2. He’s every bit as much of an alpha male as Trump

      (3) I don’t see Trump being able to work with a man he sees as a challenge to his authority

      I don’t agree that everyone realizes that Trump is who we need to right the ship as soon as possible but I think this may be a growing perception. A lot will depend on the GOP primary race, because the party is still not ready to stop cannibalizing itself, and on who the Dems put up. The Dems do a lot of big talk and bluster about Biden being such a strong candidate, but I think even they realize that the only way they got him into the White House last time was due to a massive blitz of vote fraud and the collusion of the Agenda Media. This time around will be a lot different. They need to run him so they can immediate dump him after he is inaugurated and put in another puppet, and because dumping him before the election and then not nominating Kammy would really tick off a lot of black voters.

      BTW that last “signature” looks like the one the UPS driver put on an ammunition shipment when he stole it

      • Cluster May 13, 2023 / 10:46 am

        LOL. I want to get out in front on this one and say …. Joe Biden didn’t kill himself

      • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 11:20 am

        ..and neither did Bobby Kennedy Jr.

      • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 11:59 am

        Trump needs to back away from some of his rhetoric. If he can’t bring himself to admit his handling of the Covid “crisis” was wrong—and he could easily do so, as every president has to make decisions based on the information given to him by his advisers, and there was no reason to think that Fauci was a total fraud until later—-he should at least shut up about it.

        Kennedy seems serious in wanting to run for the presidency, and though the Dems have decided not to have debates (and will probably try to avoid a primary) I’m sure Kennedy is still going to be out there talking about this stuff and I’m sure the Left will pick up on it. It’s a double-edged sword, as they took whatever Trump did and amplified it, but they have learned that their base doesn’t care about things like logic or facts and they might be confident that they can overcome this overlap into the Biden administration.

        I contend that Trump can do two things that will vastly increase his appeal across the board. One is to admit that his handling of Covid was a mistake. I don’t think anyone could fault him for what he tried to do, because it seemed so logical and so supported by science and all the “experts” so I don’t think it would hurt him to say “I was wrong”. (OK, it would hurt him deeply as a egomaniac, but not politically.)

        Just look at the weapon this would give him, as he could say that he was only president during the first part of the pandemic, acting on the advice of the top “experts” in the field, and by the time they and their opinions were proved to be fraudulent he was out of office. The “vaccine” was new then, with none of the subsequent information about its dangers. He could say that if he had been president, as soon as the information about the vaxx injuries started to come out he would have pulled the plug on that whole effort, saving lives and billions of dollars as he adopted the advice of other doctors and started to focus on treatment instead of prevention.

        And then he could come down hard on the dictatorial abuses of power of the Biden administration in 2021 and going into 2022—the mandates costing people their jobs and military careers even in the face of the growing evidence of vaxx injuries should be devastating to Biden. The drug is the Achilles Heel of the administration, as it has still continued to push it as safe and effective and even necessary even in the face of its evident dangers. A Trump campaign, with all its attendant publicity, publicizing the damages of the drugs and hammering the fact that this had to be known to the administration but it was too deeply invested in its funneling of billions of dollars to the drug companies to stop forcing people to take them, should destroy any Biden campaign.

        Right now that weapon is denied to Trump by his own ego, but I am sure it will be wielded by his opponents, and he should get out ahead of it.

        The other thing he should do is make common cause with Ron DeSantis. I don’t sense that DeSantis is fully committed to a 2024 run for the presidency. He loves being governor of Florida, he ran on a promise to do certain things for the state, and I don’t think he wants to get into a mud wrestling match with Trump. If Trump were to do a 180 and start to play up DeSantis as the face of the new GOP, I am sure DeSantis would support Trump and together they would be a major threat to the Left. DeSantis is a very methodical and organized guy, and I sense that he would prefer a slower approach to the presidency, lining up more successful policies and building his support.

        Then with a Trump/DeSantis coalition Trump could go to the Northeast or Midwest to find a VP candidate who would be happy to be a one-term vice president and not challenge DeSantis in 2028.

  15. Retired Spook May 13, 2023 / 9:56 am

    Interesting excerpt from Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s interview with Russell Brand:

    “The weird thing about the pandemic was this constant involvement by the CIA, the intelligence agencies, and the military. When Operation Warp Speed made its presentation to the FDA committee called VRBPAC [and] turned over the organizational charts that were classified at the time, it shocked everybody because it wasn’t [being run by] HHS, CDC, NIH, FDA, or a public health agency. It was [run by] the NSA, a spy agency that was at the top and led Operation Warp Speed.

    The vaccines were [not developed] by Moderna and Pfizer. They were developed by NIH, NIH owns the patents, [at least 50%]. Nor were [the vaccines even] manufactured by Pfizer, or by Moderna. They were manufactured by military contractors. And basically, Pfizer and Moderna were paid to put their stamps on those vaccines as if they came from the pharmaceutical industry. But that’s not what they were doing.

    This was a military project from the beginning…

    I uncovered… 20 different [government-led] simulations on coronavirus and pandemic simulations. That started in 2001. The first one was right before the anthrax attacks. And every year, the CIA sponsored them all. The last one was Event 201 in October 2019. And one of the participants was Avril Haines, the former Deputy Director of the CIA, who has been managing coverups her entire life. She did Guantanamo Bay and others. She is now the Director of National Intelligence which makes her the highest ranking officer at the NSA — which managed the pandemic.

    So you have a spy who is convening these pandemic simulations and in each of these simulations going back 20 years, they’re not simulating a public health response. They’re not [brainstorming] things like, how do we stockpile Vitamin D? How do we get people outdoors, losing weight, doing exercise? How do we develop an information grid for all the 15 million front line doctors all over the world, so that we can get them information [about what] works and what doesn’t work. None of that happened. We had an incredible opportunity to manage a pandemic in a way that was intelligent and sensitive and devastating to the disease, but we didn’t do any of those things.

    [Instead, it] was all about, how do you use a pandemic to clamp down [with] censorship? How you use [a pandemic] to force lockdowns?

    By the way, with lockdowns, every pandemic preparedness document that had been adopted by any [of the] major public health agencies, whether it was CDC, WHO, European Health Agency, National Health Services of Britain. All of them said you don’t do lockdowns, you quarantine the sick, you protect the vulnerable. And you let everybody else go back to work because a lockdown actually amplifies the impact of the disease. If you isolate people, it makes them more vulnerable, it breaks down their immune system. You lock them indoors, it’s going to spread the respiratory virus.

    And so all the things they’re [practicing] are about clamping down totalitarian controls.”

    • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 10:20 am

      That is fascinating, and terrifying, but not at all unbelievable. Kennedy is a smart guy, though his passion for climate change does cast something of a shadow on that.

      Another shadow is the memory of what has happened to other Kennedys who went up against the CIA.

      And Trump needs to be asked why he turned Operation Warp Speed over to the NSA

    • Cluster May 13, 2023 / 10:56 am

      Absolutely this confirms my conspiracy theories lol … Kennedy is spot on. And yes, this is very alarming. This country may be further down the rabbit hole than we think. Nothing about the pandemic felt right to me from the very beginning. I can tell you that I never took a day off nor did I take any vaccine or booster, nor did I ever wear a mask unless when I absolutely couldn’t avoid it. It’s amazing what fear will do to people and the if any entity knows how to use fear … it’s the CIA

  16. Cluster May 13, 2023 / 11:05 am

    This is FANTASTIC news …

    California Governor Gavin Newsom has said the state’s budget deficit is expected to soar to almost $32 billion, nearly $10 billion more than he had projected in January.

    I hope that state completely collapses. This is what woke ideology does to a people and a State. It’s a toxic ideology and will destroy everything in it’s path

    • Cluster May 13, 2023 / 11:13 am

      This here is the problem with the progressive democrat agenda

      California has a progressive tax system that relies heavily on rich people and taxes investment gains as regular income, meaning it gets about half its revenues from just 1 percent of the population.

      This is the most short sighted tax system ever. Why in the world would you ever rely on just 1% of anything to carry the day? It’s unsustainable. And who are these people who expect the 1% to pay for everything. There are some seriously messed up people in CA.

      • Mark Noonan May 13, 2023 / 2:30 pm

        They rely on that goose to lay the golden eggs…and if you’ve ever been to one of the beach communities of CA, you’ll see why people who live there will stay as long as they can. They are awesome. Seriously put on your bucket list a week in the Del Mar/La Jolla area of San Diego. It is just so incredibly nice there…perfect weather, the beach, great places to eat…everyone is in a good mood.

        OTOH, if you’re not super rich, then after a while those taxes start to break you…and even if you’re super rich, you will remember that Texas and Florida have beach areas. No, not as nice as Del Mar/La Jolla..but nice enough; and the taxes are a fraction of California’s.

        We now know that they fudged the 2020 census results – CA should probably have lost not one, but two or three House seats. And remember it is enumerated on persons, not citizens. This means even illegals are abandoning CA (when shacks are going for half a million dollars it is hard for guys from Matamoros to get a place to live). I personally know people who are fleeing the State. Heck, my own brother is bailing out…and he lives in Palmdale, not anywhere near a beach but it is just getting too much…to pricey, to tax-y and too crime-y. His whole family – the Mrs, his daughters, son in law, grandkids: they’re all getting out.

        CA is losing its tax base…it will soon be nothing but welfare bums and government employees (especially at CA’s University system). It is going to have a complete collapse.

      • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 5:13 pm

        Florida and Texas are both no-state-income-tax states, and even Florida has a lot of moderately priced houses. When I bought in SW Florida I insisted on being on the water. Not a beach, necessarily, as a person of pallor I am not a beach person, but water. I bought a house on a wide and deep canal, with a dock and a few minutes to open water, for less than I sold my under-construction Denver house for, and if I had not insisted on waterfront I could have had a beautiful four bedroom elegant-looking house for half a million or less, a house that would bring two or three times that much in Colorado, and still only minutes from beaches.

        I’ve always loved La Jolla and the whole San Diego area, but these days—no way. Between the taxes, the government in general and the proximity to the border the area has lost its appeal. It’s only a matter of time till they are overrun. The only advantage I can see over Florida is that the summers are nicer in California.

      • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 5:41 pm

        A San Francisco Journalist Wanted to Debunk Horror Stories About Her City. She Got Kinda Sidetracked by the Truth

        The doom-loopy vision laid out for downtown SF was not pretty: Workers don’t return, offices remain empty, restaurants shutter, transit agencies go bankrupt, tax bases plummet, public services disappear. According to research from the University of Toronto, cell-phone activity in downtown SF is 32 percent of pre-pandemic levels. That number is 75 percent in New York.

        The night the Chronicle published its doom-loop article, Manny’s, an event space in the Mission, hosted a public discussion on what to do about the death spiral. The panelists tried to sound optimistic. “We just need to fix San Francisco’s dysfunctional permitting system!” “We can find an affordable way to turn some of the office space into housing.” “We should fund artists to repopulate downtown!”

        (The new California version of “If we just put some of those twinkly lights on the smokestacks of the Titanic….”

        Meanwhile, the Blick security guard kept texting me videos. He needed someone to see what he was seeing out there, on his patch of Market Street, between Fifth and Sixth. Did I know how the black markets worked? Had I walked down Market Street at night? Did I know that some of the street addicts were rotting, literally: their decomposing flesh attracting flies. The Anthropologie, where he used to work, announced it would close. “What it really feels like living in San Francisco is that you’re lying to yourself,” he said. “Oh, I live in San Francisco. It’s so nice. When you walk by the junkies you’re like, They don’t exist. they don’t exist. You’re lying to yourself.”

      • Cluster May 13, 2023 / 2:57 pm

        And consider the number of business’s in CA that have either left the State or been shuttered by Covid and/or other regulations. That’s a huge negative hit to tax revenues. Any government that panders to, and gives special privileges to the .01% of the population while at the same time demanding that 1% of the population pay the freight for all this … is a government that does not represent the people and is completely unsustainable. When it all collapses is up for argument, but if it collapses is not. Just a matter of time

  17. Amazona May 13, 2023 / 11:16 am

    The war on DeSantis heats up. This from Twitter: Ron DeSantis just signed the “Let Them Die Act” which allows medical professionals to refuse to treat patients, even if it puts their lives at risk. This isn’t a hypothetical, a trans person died after EMTs refused to treat them after a car accident.

    Naturally, this is nowhere near the truth. In addition to the pandemic-related bill, DeSantis also signed a measure (SB 1580) that will give health care providers the right to opt out of certain services based on a “conscience-based objection.” The bill would not apply, for example, to emergency services that are required under state or federal law.

    DeSantis appears to impress the Left as a potential threat, calling for preemptive strikes such as the libels of claiming he passed a “Don’t Say Gay” law and now a “Let Them Die Act”. This all seems associated with the whole Disney kerfluffle and the Florida ban on children attending drag shows.

    The whole LGTB-Whatever group seems to have its collective panties in quite a twist over DeSantis. (And BTW I do no believe that a trans person, evidently a single person in spite of the plural pronouns, was denied life saving treatment due to trans status. The problem with lying, as in the misrepresentations of the bills in question, means nothing they say can be believed.) One problem with the new effort to brand Florida as anti-gay is that the state is still home to one of the most flamboyant and famous homosexual communities in the country, in Miami’s South Beach.

    • Cluster May 13, 2023 / 11:34 am

      Key West is also a gay paradise

  18. Amazona May 13, 2023 / 11:29 am

    I can’t think of any single demographic more unpleasant than Leftists. Sour, hateful and wallowing in spite and malice, their worldview is so negative that they seem incapable of saying anything without dragging it in.

    Justice Kagan did some ridiculous virtue signaling the other day when she turned down a basket of bagels sent by old school mates to avoid “ethical” issues. (You’ve got to wonder how she can look Thomas in the eye after this kind of petty passive-aggressive grandstanding.)

    The writer Sarah Schulman, who also went to Hunter, posted on Facebook on May 6 that the care package for Kagan was envisioned ‘as a sign of support for the nightmare of having to go to work with Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch every day. Compare that to Thomas, Schulman added, with “his real estate, fancy travel and cold hard cash. Lox!’

    Yes, Ms. Schulman seems confident that her braying about the stress, the absolute NIGHTMARE of “having to go to work with Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch every day” will be well received by the rest of her coven. And it probably was. I’m sure none of them wondered what the hell she meant by “his real estate” and “cold hard cash” in her sniping at Thomas. But hey, the nasty Left never lets facts get in the way of a satisfying snarl.

    What a nest of vipers.

    • Mark Noonan May 13, 2023 / 2:21 pm

      Not to try to insult anyone, but upper class white women are, by and large, the most ignorant people in America – even more so than, say, the 4th grade reading level welfare recipient in the worst part of town…at least that person has some practical experience of life to fall back on. But the typical upper class white woman has lived a life of wealth her whole life, has never been challenged, never had to actually put in any work and still entirely relies on the MSM for information.

      These people are the backbone of the Democrat Party; even more so than poor and working class POC.

      That’s where that sort of nastiness emerges from – she’s been told all about Gorsuch, etc…the good looking news actor on TV said so! And that is all she knows.

      • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 5:01 pm

        Expand your definition to the middle class as well, and I tend to agree, but I think the geographic element is more important than that of class. I know a lot of women in the middle and upper middle class and a few in the upper economic stratum, and they are for the most part savvy and un-Liberal even if not wholly or consciously, actively, conservative.

        It’s the coastal elites who make up the Ignorant Class, with their Ivy and Little Ivy League schools and inbred social structures. While they tend to be white, on the IQ scale (Ignorance Quotient) I put them on the same level as the black ghetto woman who, when two armed police officers went into a restaurant to eat, demanded that the manager escort her to her car so she would not be gunned down by them in the parking lot.

      • Mark Noonan May 13, 2023 / 5:52 pm

        You do have a strong point on that – but a bit worse. I once worked with a black lady and she had a Master’s degree. She was quite certain that all Republicans are racists and that the Democrat party was fighting to cut taxes.

        I was sitting right in front of her!

        I didn’t bother mentioning that I was Republican…a mind that trapped in a Narrative wouldn’t have been able to accept it.

  19. Amazona May 13, 2023 / 12:05 pm

    The past five weeks has seen a flurry of media activity, clearly coordinated, against the right-of-center U.S. Supreme Court.

    Important article

    • Cluster May 13, 2023 / 12:21 pm

      I saw a tweet the other day from someone calling Democrats the New Puritans, and that’s exactly who they have become. The woke ideology is a puritan ideology, there is no room for opposing views, and we should be calling them out on this every chance we get.

      • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 4:45 pm

        Puritan in their demand for absolute submission to their cultural ideology but licentious in their behavior.
        It’s an odd mix

        I note that theirs is a cultural ideology because, even though it enables and supports a political structure its members are unaware of and indifferent to the actual political aspects of the movement, attracted by and caught up in the superficial social and cultural elements.

  20. Cluster May 13, 2023 / 1:43 pm

    Sean Connery in the movie the Untouchables, gave us the blue print on how to deal with Democrats …

    “They put one of ours in the hospital, we put two of theirs in the morgue”

  21. Cluster May 13, 2023 / 3:07 pm

    Love to see this …. we are fighting back

    Crowdfund for ex-Marine Daniel Penny hits $1 MILLION after he was charged with second-degree manslaughter

    • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 5:29 pm

      That is great news, on many levels. It not only guarantees a good defense for Penny, it sends a a one-fingered message to New York and other Liberals.

      I’m a little surprised that New York is still trying to bluff its way though all the grief it has been getting. Bragg is being pilloried—though I doubt much of the criticism has made it through the NYC bubble—and former NYC prosecutor Mark Pomerantz, who previously investigated Trump, pleaded the Fifth Amendment for much of his deposition. He was all smug and smirky about it, strutting and posturing that he was above the “political theater” of the House hearings, but that will only play to the NYC elites—to the rest of the country he sounds guilty of abuse of power and political persecution of Trump.

      I like the development of the theme “this is what you voted for” and think it, with graphic photos, should get a large chunk of GOP campaign funds to be put on billboards and in ad campaigns. The last time I checked, those big color postcards weren’t all that expensive to buy and mail, and I would flood certain neighborhoods with them and that message, with different photos targeting different demographics. For example, I would hit Liberal Marin County with that picture of miles and miles of mobile shantytown vehicles and tents along Marin County highways. THIS IS WHAT YOU VOTED FOR

      In cities, maybe pictures of shuttered Nordstrom’s and Whole Foods—THIS IS WHAT YOU VOTED FOR. And so on.

      Shove it down their throats. Rub their noses in it, And laugh at them for being unhappy about what is happening.

      • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 5:46 pm

        On Friday night, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) shared the crowdfunding page on Twitter.

        “We must defeat the Soros-Funded DAs, stop the Left’s pro-criminal agenda, and take back the streets for law abiding citizens,” DeSantis wrote. “We stand with Good Samaritans like Daniel Penny. Let’s show this Marine… America’s got his back.”

        That is leadership

      • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 5:48 pm

        The justice system in New York is so corrupt that it literally took a law being passed by the Democrat-controlled legislature and signed by the Democrat governor to enable E. Jean Carroll to sue Trump over dubious rape charges. Many believed the law was only passed to allow Carroll to sue Trump. This turned out to be true because Carroll’s lawyer admitted she was behind the effort to get the law passed.

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