Open Thread

The legal defense fund for Daniel Penny has raised a million dollars so far – its only been up for a day, maybe two, so that’s good. Its getting to enough money to really pay for some top flight lawyers. Couple things about it:

The Left is relentlessly pointing out that Penny is white and the man who died was black. Race, of course, had absolutely nothing to do with the incident. But inflaming race hatred is a key component of the Left’s program…its been part of it since the mid 1970’s but it went into overdrive when an increasingly failing and unpopular Obama needed a tool to keep his troops in line. It has just gone thermonuclear since then. Do keep in mind that this isn’t a mistake. This isn’t an unintended consequence. This is deliberate and malicious: it is just like Julius Streicher and his Der Sturmer in Nazi Germany: it is intended to otherize us and make us legitimate targets for violence.

Meanwhile, I’ve noticed on the Right far too many people trying to split the baby: deploring the indictment of Penny but also making statements to the effect of, “he took it too far”. This is why we lose – and it is because we have forgotten. Nobody is ever allowed to act out in public. Not even once and not even a little bit. It is impermissible to accost people; to yell at them; to threaten them in any manner. All Penny did was what a man is supposed to do in that situation; stop the guy. It is unfortunate – and was clearly unintended – that he should die. But his death is on his hands, not Penny’s. It was the raving nutter who deliberately placed himself into a situation where any decent man would have to take him down…as gently as possible but with whatever force proved necessary. If Penny had deliberately killed the man, it would still not be a crime: because, once again, nobody is ever allowed to be a raving lunatic in public. Doing that is a complete breakdown of the social contract wherein we all agree to be polite and reasonable for the benefit of all. Start allowing people to at will ignore that rule and social chaos ensues – as we already see in New York, San Francisco and many other places.

Team Pudding Brain has manufactured a border crisis and is flooding America with what may be many millions of illegal immigrants – with of course untold thousands of vicious criminals mixed in with them. The official numbers are staggering and probably aren’t 50% of what is really coming in. Now, why should they do this? I think they believe that the resulting chaos will help them short and long term: as communities get overrun with illegals, the Democrats will claim their “common sense immigration reform” (ie, amnesty) will fix the problem but Republicans are obstructing it (this is why they are dumping lots of illegals in deep Blue areas) while, long term, they figure these illegals they’ll eventually turn into citizens will be grateful and vote Democrat for a couple generations. The crime and social chaos is just a bonus in this plan – keeping in mind that your basic Democrat (whether conscious of it or not) is a Marxist who believes that our wealth and security are the result of an evil system and we must be punished for taking what was never ours. But I have noticed that the deep Blue areas become illegal dumping grounds aren’t the high end deep Blue areas. They aren’t moving these people to Malibu, ya know? It is poor urban areas mostly made up of POC who are getting the shipments…and it is infuriating these people. There is a huge opportunity here…and the person best able at the moment to take advantage of it is Trump…though RDS can also make the pitch very well: that we GOPers will save low income communities from being overrun.

Biden is congratulating himself for appointing lots of women as judges – our Matt asks how can he tell as he’s not a biologist?

CNN is trying to tell us that it isn’t the bums, looting, feces and crime driving retailers out of the big Blue cities. It is something else. Lots of stuff. Complex social changes. But not the bum sh***ing on the street. It isn’t that. Trust them!

Elon Musk hired his new CEO for Twitter – a lady names Linda Yaccarino who checks off just about every Left SJW nutjob box you can think of. This has caused a lot of negative comment on Twitter and, yeah, it is worrying. OTOH, Musk is still saying he’s committed to free speech…to troll the Left he even Tweeted out a Pepe the Frog meme (if you don’t know – Pepe is a frog used in rightwing memes and it is hated by the Left). So, I don’t know. I can see on the face of it why Yaccarino was picked – she’s apparently first rate at generating advertising dollars and Musk does want Twitter to be profitable. But there is the worry that the Safety Council will come back, by one means or another, and Right comment will start to be throttled again (towards the end of the old Twitter regime it was getting really bad). I’m going to wait and see, myself: some of the people Yaccarino follows are accounts the Left hates with a white-hot passion. She might be one of those few Commies who is actually ok with the free flow of ideas – they are very rare, but they do exist. We’re going to find out.

30 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook May 13, 2023 / 2:20 pm

    Jeff Childers has a similar take on Elon’s hiring of Linda Yaccarino:

    Yesterday, Elon Musk officially announced NBC Universal’s streaming media executive Linda Yaccarino as Twitter’s new CEO, and a lot of people are freaking out. It only took about five seconds for independent investigators to discover Yaccarino is a skilled virtue-signaler (pronouns), and chairs a World Economic Forum woke sub-committee of some kind.

    The fear and uncertainty about Yaccarino yesterday became so intense it even created a field day for lefty media outlets like Mediaite, which ran this headline, barely concealing its glee over the dustup:

    Concerned critics do have a point. Obviously, the WEF might as well be run by Satan as far as a lot of folks are concerned, and any connection to that organization is an immediate trust disqualifier. Folks think anyone involved in the WEF is either a chaos agent or is likely to be a chaos agent, with an agenda to depopulate (murder) us common people.

    So Yaccarino’s hiring smelt a lot like betrayal to all the people who had placed their trust in Superman, I mean Elon.

    For his part, Musk seems aware of the controversy and is unruffled.

    How should we think about this? First, let’s recognize that Musk just spent $40 billion to buy Twitter, which required him to liquidate a ton of his prized Tesla stock. It’s a fair guess he hopes to make some of his money back at some point. So it is rational for him to hire people for their skills rather than for their politics.

    Consider three of Musk’s top Twitter-related business problems:

    1) Twitter lost a lot of advertisers when Musk took over.

    2) Twitter is currently shedding liberal media who refuse to pay for a blue check mark because of Musk’s apparent politics.

    3) Musk intends to expand Twitter’s services, a lot, including adding a streaming video service for things like Tucker Carlson’s new show.

    If you think about it, Yaccarino addresses all three problems. Musk needed a liberal. If he’d hired a top conservative executive (if those even exist these days), the first two problems listed above would have gotten even worse. But by hiring someone with impeccable liberal credentials, Musk reassures half his user base, many potential advertisers, and helps convince National Public Radio to pay $1,000 a month for a tiny blue circle, or whatever the media’s rate is these days.

    The WEF is gross. I can’t relate to anyone that could sit around for hours listening to Klaus Schwab’s gravelly German accent and incoherent mumbo-jumbo, no matter how good the champagne was. I certainly can’t speak the WEF’s “buzzword language,” or even understand it very well. It’s something about synergies, I know that much.

    As bad as the WEF is, judging folks only by their connections is gross too. If you want to get ahead in corporate America these days you need to speak woke. That’s why I would never make it in a boardroom; I’d probably refer to someone as an “unattractive cross dresser” and that would be that, banned for life. But some other people are smarter and more patient than I am.

    In that vein, some conservatives have encouraged a “wait and see” approach for Ms. Yaccarino:

    • Mark Noonan May 13, 2023 / 5:59 pm

      That is basically where I was from the first minute: Musk knows that Republicans use Twitter, too. He won’t want to lose business – he wants, in fact, to massively gain business. The Tucker Carlson thing could be a huge money maker as people, Left and Right, who don’t fit into Establishment boxes get platforms. I hate to say it, but Cenk Uyger has been making some sense of late – I thought the first time he made sense I had slipped into some alternate universe. He remains as Commie as always, but he’s also making some strong points that, hey, the Establishment is the Establishment and the Left is supposed to be anti-Establishment. But with people like Carlson and Uyger, Musk could create something that utterly destroys not just cable news, but broadcast news…and the last remaining newspapers.

      It still will be tricky – there are plenty on the Left who sincerely believe that allowing non-Left views is inherently evil…Musk has to pull them in while still allowing Right voices to speak. We’ll see if he can do it.

      • Amazona May 13, 2023 / 7:00 pm

        I think many on the Left who think all non-Left views are evil have never really heard any, just the curated version fed to them. I often use the term Invented Other when referring to the Left’s concept of the Right, because most of them have never examined any actual precept of conservatism, and have either been controlled by ISSUES or by the narrative or both.

        I have repeated my own version of conservativism—-that of a federal government restricted as to size, scope and power with most authority left to the states or to the people—so often it has come to sound like a cliche even though it is my own thought process. The thing is, so far I have never had a Lefty come out and say he has an opposite view and some have agreed with the “most authority left to the states” part. It’s just that to them “Republican” has nothing to do with a blueprint for governing the country but is just some weird toxic cult of hate. Of course to them “Democrat” has nothing to do with a blueprint for governing the country but is just a happy group of morally superior beings in constant conflict and opposition with the evil represented by “the Right”.

        This is why I tear my hair out when conservatives insist on a narrative that is as based on ISSUES as the Left is, when the only time I have ever gotten a Lefty to even listen to me has been when I refuse to talk about issues but stick to the unemotional analysis of the best form of government. It’s that definition of insanity, writ large and often.

        So a venue, finally, that will give the Unexamined Liberal a chance to hear the other side without it being first reframed in Leftspeak will probably be the first time he has actually been exposed to the reality of the Right. As I have said, that’s what converted me. I had the good fortune to start listening to a talk show host who rejected bombast and emotion and merely laid out his core principles, and then demanded that callers to his show answer his questions and not just play the Lib Game of answering a question with a question. This taught me that even the most articulate, intelligent-sounding, passionate Liberals could not explain why they felt the way they felt, could not support their positions, and simply could not answer the questions. They ALWAYS backed away, evaded and tried to shift to a different question. That is when I decided I wanted to be on the side that could answer the questions.

        The Right has been inept to the point of paralyzing impotence when it has come to articulating objective analysis of a coherent POLITICAL philosophy, haring off after all sorts of issues and “principles” and basically sticking to the failed goal of trying to make people feel differently instead of thinking differently. So it might take a South African and a talk show host aided by a WEF acolyte to somehow come up with a format that exposes those on the Left who are capable of actually wanting to know things to the reality of Right-wing politics and history. Lord knows we’ve done a crappy job of it.

  2. Amazona May 13, 2023 / 7:23 pm

    And it looks like it might take a South African to show us how to defend aggressively and put the other guy on HIS back foot:

    Matthew Yglesias

    The Turkish government asked Twitter to censor its opponents right before an election and
    complied — should generate some interesting Twitter Files reporting.
    In response to legal process and to ensure Twitter remains available to the people of Turkey, we have taken action to restrict access to some content in Turkey today.
    Show this thread

    Elon Musk
    Did your brain fall out of your head, Yglesias? The choice is have Twitter throttled in its entirety or limit access to some tweets. Which one do you want?

    Robby Starbuck
    Matty wants you to do nothing and in return Turkish people have ZERO access to twitter when government censors it in response. Real galaxy brain stuff. Turkey isn’t the US. I think most understand you can’t do the same there that you’d do here. Pragmatism = keep as much access to information as you can within the confines of their system of government.

    Iglesias isn’t used to being slapped down and went into “but I never…” mode

    Matthew Yglesias
    Literally all I’ve said is that I’m looking forward to the Twitter Files reporting team doing some work on this.

    And some weren’t letting him get away with it:


    To act as if your original statement was not lacking important context is disingenuous.

    As a journalist, not acknowledging this brings into question your integrity as a source of impartial truths.

    This is how it’s done. You don’t just say “huh-UH” and stop there. You spike that ball back over the net

  3. Amazona May 13, 2023 / 7:47 pm

    • Cluster May 14, 2023 / 9:39 am

      Great story and a life well lived. I spent a lot of time in California in the 70’s and 80’s and it was a much different and magical place back then. My aunt and uncle bought a home in Palo Alto in the early 1950’s for … wait for it …. $15,000. My cousin and her family still live in the same home which is now worth over $1,000,000. Now that’s equity gain lol. It’s sad to see what has happened to that State.

  4. Amazona May 14, 2023 / 9:43 am

    Trump has four GOP competitors so far – Nikki Haley, Asa Hutchinson, Larry Elder, and Vivek Ramaswamy.

    And two of them are not legally eligible for the presidency. while one is “Asa…?????”

  5. Cluster May 14, 2023 / 9:54 am

    I follow Gunther on Twitter and he always has some good ones.

    Here’s what the illegitimate, POS POTUS said yesterday. Remember when Biden told that guy in FL that “no one fucks with the Bidens”??? Well let’s encourage the GOP House to do just that. Everyday. The Bidens are the most disgusting, vile family to ever occupy the WH.

    President Joe Biden was slammed by critics after he denounced white supremacy as the ‘most dangerous terrorist threat’ to the United States during a graduation address on Saturday.

    He tied it to the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol building during his speech to to Howard University students

    ‘Stand up against the poison. White supremacy … is the single most dangerous terrorist threat in our homeland,’ he said.

    • jdge1 May 14, 2023 / 3:14 pm

      When Bidum says something absurd like that, would be interesting to see his response if someone asked him to define “white supremacy”. I imagine he would flop all over the place like a fish out of water and say something even more stupid that unintentionally included himself in his definition -or- he would define it in such a way as to include more than half the country, in essence, calling the majority of the US citizens terrorists. That would go over well.

    • Amazona May 15, 2023 / 3:15 pm

      These guys are so funny, with their coordinated masks and pressed khakis and matching shirts and darling little cardboard shields. I loved the way they all flowed, so quietly and precisely, down the stairs to the subway, with their police escorts. I notice they all have their arms covered.

      Comments were hysterical, with photos of other feebs wearing the same blue shirts and khakis. I guess they do these performance art things on Sundays so the guys get overtime yet no one wonders why they aren’t at work.

      I wonder if an FOIA request would show the overtime. That would be funny.

  6. Amazona May 14, 2023 / 11:13 am

    Dmitry Radyshevsky write an interesting piece that is a much more nuanced and scholarly approach than my simplistic “the Left offers a shortcut to the Higher Moral Ground” in his The Sparks of Holiness in Wokeism

    He also makes some excellent points about the transgender fad we are seeing these days:

    Transgenderism is one of the most radical and lunatic attempts to change the unchangeable rules of the Game of Existence. Let’s say a soul before birth chose to be born in a male body. In God’s realm nothing is accidental, including the gender we are born with. Now, having grown up, a man discovers that in addition to the joys of living in the male body, it is accompanied by a large number of responsibilities: one must become a defender – of the homeland and family, a husband, a father, a breadwinner – a whole bunch of boring and heavy burdens. This cross must be carried all his life… but it turns out that there is a modern woke theory according to which this cross can be proudly thrown off!

    ‘I will change the rules of the Game,’ says the woke guy to himself: I chose a wrong ticket but I will exchange it now – I am no longer a man, but a woman! Moreover, a woman who is free from the duties of childbearing.

    All terrifying threats to fail in this life as a man will be instantly cut off by surgery!

    The same with the opposite sex: say, the soul chose to be born as a woman, but it turned out that in addition to beauty and joy of being a woman, there is a lot of suffering, self-sacrifice and responsibility – to bear and give birth to children in agony, nourish them, build relationship with a husband … No, I will have surgery and I will become a man – and without his responsibilities!

    All terrifying threats to fail in this life as a man will be instantly cut off by surgery!

    • Cluster May 14, 2023 / 11:46 am

      What a great perspective and so true. The men who wear makeup are most definitely looking for an escape from responsibility while at the same time seeking as much attention as possible.

    • Mark Noonan May 14, 2023 / 9:19 pm

      Its all very insidious – and I have come across even some Trans people who are disgusted with it all. Like this: we made the decision as a people more than 50 years ago that it was to be live and let live. As long as what you do doesn’t harm me or cut into property values, its all cool.

      Some people prefer to live as the opposite gender from their biology. They work very diligently to pass as the other gender. There’s no mistaking it: the MTF trans wants to be mistaken for a woman but still knows he is not actually a woman. The new thing – the hideous thing – is this demand that as soon as a person says, “I’m trans!” we’re supposed to accept that they are, indeed, the other gender in all respects. It is a demand that we lie, and we cannot tolerate it, not even for an instant. When added to the Mengele-like evil of medical transition for minors, we’re getting into a very dark place…and we simply must win this fight.

  7. Cluster May 14, 2023 / 1:05 pm

    So according to reports, there are 74 “unprovoked” shark attacks every year in the US. I want to know who those people are who provoke the shark attacks … and what’s that number?? LOL

    • Amazona May 14, 2023 / 4:58 pm

      Good catch. Keep it up and you, too, can be a Word Nazi.

      • Cluster May 14, 2023 / 6:56 pm


    • Mark Noonan May 14, 2023 / 9:14 pm

      Real men always provoke shark attacks.

  8. jdge1 May 14, 2023 / 6:14 pm

    To show just how wacky (mentally ill) the “identify” brigade is, here’s a title from a youtube Babylon Bee clip.

    Motorcyclist Who Identifies As Bicyclist Sets Cycling World Record

  9. Cluster May 15, 2023 / 9:47 am

    Why are we not storming the Capital with pitchforks??? While the illegitimate POS POTUS called us all white supremacy extremists yesterday, his corruption is in the faces of Americans everyday and Americas propaganda media covers for him. Never thought this would happen in this country but this who they are. Time to put them down

    Comer told Maria Bartiromo about the NINE Biden family members who received foreign payments totaling more than $10 million.

    James Comer then dropped this bomb — The informant on the Biden family has gone missing.

    “9 of the 10 people that we’ve identified… they’re 1 of 3 things: They’re either currently in court. They’re currently in jail. Or they’re currently missing,” Comer said.

    Comer added, “We have people who want to come forward, but honestly, Maria, they fear for their lives – not only are the Biden lawyers and the Biden White House intimidating them, the media is trying to intimidate and discredit them.”

    “This is stunning that some people are missing,” Maria Bartiromo said.

    Maria Bartiromo asked Comer if he knew who in the Biden White House was intimidating the informants and whistleblowers.

    “Do you know?” Bartiromo asked Comer.

    “I do know. We’re saving that for a later time,” Comer said.

  10. Cluster May 15, 2023 / 9:58 am

    From the YCMTSU file, evidently the woke anti capitalism cafe in Canada had had a rough year and had to shut down. I think the statement from the owner kind of says it all lol. I guess “raising the blood pressure of conservatives” didn’t pay the bills. Who knew?

    “It’s been an amazing experience, connecting with so many great community members, sparking desperately needed debate, raising the blood pressure of Conservatives (that includes you, “anarcho-capitalists” and “Libertarians”), fulfilling the dream of most service workers by not having to tolerate the presence of professional class-traitors (pigs and military), and experimenting with living and working in ways that don’t enthusiastically embrace the pure misanthropy of Capitalism,” he continued.

    “Fuck the rich. Fuck the police. Fuck the state. Fuck the colonial death camp we call ‘Canada’,” the statement concluded.

    • Amazona May 15, 2023 / 3:18 pm

      I guess this lunatic didn’t realize that it is capitalists who have the money to go to cafes, and that they probably wouldn’t want to pay to be called pigs and traitors. “colonial death camp?”

      But overall he sounds like a lovely guy

      • Cluster May 15, 2023 / 4:19 pm

        LOL, it does boggle the mind doesn’t it? Like I have previously said, Leftists and Democrats have pandered to so many fringe groups over the years, that they have put themselves into completely indefensible positions. Case in point, the immigrants being jammed into largely poor black neighborhoods in Chicago and those residents (a huge voting bloc for them) are outraged, as they should be. 2024 will be real interesting. Democrat voting blocs will start to turn on each other.

    • Mark Noonan May 15, 2023 / 5:30 pm

      LOL – and the Canadians said “f*** your business” in response.

      They just don’t get it that “from each according to their ability, to each according to their need” is nonsense on stilts. You can’t tell what someone’s abilities are and you can’t tell what people will need tomorrow. It was a drivel statement when first made.

      Even if you want to put the brightest face on it and suppose you could have a Communist regime without slave labor camps and secret executions, you’d still have to have a police force which was ever on the watch for someone not working as hard as they can (remember; “according to ability”…you must put out 100% effort at all times, not the slightest bit of slacking, even when you see people doing far less than you) while also policing people who took more than they needed (you might think that you, spouse and two kids needs a gallon of milk today…but it turns out you only really needed half a gallon! You’re doomed!). It is just the most obviously ridiculous statement ever made…but millions believe it and are willing to kill to try it.

  11. Cluster May 15, 2023 / 10:18 am

    Latest census info has Americas white population at 197 million, Hispanics at 62 million and Blacks at 42 million. Why then are black Americans the most pandered to group in America? Why doesn’t the GOP focus almost exclusively on white and hispanic Americans? We’ve tried to convince black America that Democrats just don’t give a shit about them but to no avail. They continue to vote against their own interests. Time to move on.

    • Mark Noonan May 15, 2023 / 5:24 pm

      That undersells it – Durham pretty much found that there wasn’t the slightest basis to even suspect anything. IOW, they just made it all up…the Clinton people created the lie and the FBI just ran with it in order to serve Team Clinton’s election bid.

      And of course nothing will be done – nobody will be prosecuted and nobody fired. If by some means we can even force the start of a criminal investigation, the Administration will just sit on it until after 2024 knowing that if the Dems win it’ll be quietly buried and if the GOP wins then any GOP effort to move forward will be stymied by Democrats at Justice, if the GOP doesn’t just go, “let bygones be bygones” on it.

      But here’s what is really crucial for us – the thing we need to understand is that the chaos around Trump was manufactured by Trump’s opponents. People – especially Never Trump – likes to say it was all started by Trump because he’s got a big mouth (he does) but that is still post-facto reasoning: the chaos starts because the Establishment is unfairly targeting Trump who then responds, often in unmeasured terms. But Trump is still just talking…they are abusing any concept of law and justice.

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